Maguuma [SWäG]
Original [OG] (good times)
I like to use 0 15 10 15 30 now for pvp, although 0 10 0 30 30 is still good, only got a slight nerf.
you people are freaks (please post vids!)
This ^
Also, I have tried d/f and s/f in spvp, It just doesn’t compare to offhand dagger, I wish it did, but it doesnt. I hope they overhaul focus soon, but keep earth the same.
Why not? what does it lack? Is it damage? I do plenty of damage lol, and my added survivability and pretty much projectile immunity makes up for the lack of RoF / fire grab.
I prefer trading away some damage to get in return a ton of utility and survivability.
losing RoF, Fire grab, RTL, Updraft, Frost aura, Cleansing wave, earthquake, and churning earth isnt worth it for Swirling winds, Magnetic Wave and Obsidian Flesh.
The defensive CD’s are just too long and you lose way too much for them. Currently, it’s better to keep off hand dagger and use your utilities for defense, which is what most d/d players still do.
If they tweaked some CDs, gave us useful fire skills, and made comet instant, then I believe it would be a good option.
you people are freaks (please post vids!)
This ^
Also, I have tried d/f and s/f in spvp, It just doesn’t compare to offhand dagger, I wish it did, but it doesnt. I hope they overhaul focus soon, but keep earth the same.
Updated title to be more specific as to what I am suggesting.
TL;DR:
Add an option that would show a bold bright border around your cursor in combat and an option to add cross-hairs to the screen while mouse-turning/looking.
With high intensity combat in pvp, all the spell effects and flashing, and mouse turning/looking.. it is VERY easy to lose track of your mouse cursor. This hampers targeting specific enemies and placing your cursor for a ground targeted skill.
Yes you can tab-target instead of clicking on your target, but half the time I’m trying to tab-target someone right in front of me it selects everyone except who I want, and I end up having to cycle through about 9 targets before I get it. In these cases clicking is a much better option.
For ground targeting, yes when you click the skill you can get a nice colorful graphic indicating where the spell will land, but I really prefer using fast ground targeting and just being able to place my cursor for where I want the spell to go and I would love to be able to do it while mouse-turning.
Suggestions for Improvement:
-Add a selection in options that would add a thick bright border around your cursor during combat.
-Add a selection in options that will center your cursor and change it to a cross-hair while mouse-looking or mouse-turning (while you are holding down either the left or right mouse button)
These two additions would improve combat gameplay tremendously. You would be able to easily use ground targeted abilities on the fly while mouse-turning/looking by aiming with the cross-hairs an using the skill. You would also easily be able to select the specific target you want quickly by not losing sight of your cursor.
Yes, it’s cheesy as kitten. I do NOT want people who are downed being able to escape and get ressed inside a tower..
Then IMMOBILIZE THEM!
Warrior Immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_warrior_skills
1. Long bow – pin down
2. sword – flurry
3. Utility – Throw bollas
Guardian Immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_guardian_skills
1. Hammer – Zealot’s embrace
2. Scepter – chains of light
3. Utility – signet of wrath
Thief immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_thief_skills
1. Shortbow – surprise shot
2. Utility – needle trap
3. Utility – devourer venom
Engineer immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_engineer_skills
1. Riffle – net shot
2. pistol off-hand – glue shot
3. Utility – net turret
4. bomb kit – net bomb
Elementalist immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_elementalist_skills
1. Staff – earth – shockwave
2. dagger – earth – magnetic grab
3. Utility – signet of earth
Ranger immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_ranger_skills
1. Utility – stone spirit – quicksand
2. Utility – muddy terrain
3. Elite – entangle
Mesmer immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_mesmer_skills
1. Sword – illusionary leap – swap
Necromancer immobilize skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_necromancer_skills
1. dagger – dark pact
2. utility – summon bone fiend – rigor mortisAll classes have immobilize. Use it.
This doesn’t just work for stopping mistform, it works for absolutely destroying any build/spec ele. Even BEFORE all the nerfs d/d ele have recieved, all you had to do was immob us…. very simple
The only nerfs we are getting according to the leaked patch notes are a slight damage nerf to the 0 10 0 30 30 build and removal of stun break from two cantrips. Pretty much everything else were welcome changes and buffs.
1. Dependable burst – high damage skills that actually have a decent chance to land
2. More HP – our base HP is just far too low to go full GC, maybe an absorption shield mechanic.
3. More Mobility – I understand the nerf for bunker/balanced builds. For GC to be feasible though we need a way to get in and out of fights quickly. Maybe reduction of RTL CD as a 30 pt Air trait? Something like that.
Number 1 is the most important though.. I can’t tell you how many times my target is right in front of me and fire grab still misses, or how hard it is to hit a good player with burning speed, dragons tooth, even phoenix.
First decent night of roaming since I started playing again, hoping for a fun week!
I don’t think they’ll change (or nerf) Zephyr’s Boon, but rather they’re gonna improve some useless/underpowered air trait
examples: One with Air and Grounded (this could actually be fine if it worked with updraft)
I’m pretty sure these will be the type of changes we see. Changes that will at the very least “tempt” us to try otherwise ignored traits.
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn’t have multiple gear sets for zerging / roaming or a build with flexible traits that allows them to quickly swap between each style.
I use the same build, traits, and tactics for EVERYTHING. But thats just cuz I’m lazy and unwilling to change my ways.
20v20 is a GvG these days!! yikes. I’ve never been in a guild with 20 peeps online at once.
Bunzy carries OG, he has very strong carry pants
Now just clean up the staff clunkiness, improve a few scepter skills, re-hash some of the useless traits, improve glyph utilities, make elemental weapons desirable, and you may actually have elementalists trying new builds and weapons sets!
To me its a slight DPS nerf, and now it will be harder to run away from zergs.. which now that scrubs finally know how to use immob and chill in WvW I can’t get away half the time anyways. Right now it doesn’t seem that bad but I’m sure when I’m playing later I’ll notice it pretty often when I switch to air to RTL away from being focused and it wont be up.
Seems like a bug fix to me. No reason for one aura to give double the boon duration compared to all the others. Everyone was always wondering why that was even the case in the first place. Don’t see why this is suprising or upsetting everyone that much.
I’m surprised it took this long.. always knew this change would be coming, still bummed about RTL though, I was hoping they would just shorten the distance and not mess with teh CD.. whatevah
The issue I am seeing is that nothing has really changed.. People were complaining about the super hard to kill FOTM 0 10 0 30 30 build, and after these changes it is still very viable and it is STILL about the ONLY viable build for us. So we will still have the FOTMs, we will still get the complaints, and we will just be slightly less mobile now.
woah woah woah.. no ele on ele hate please, I’m pretty sure all of us have been playing D/D ele since the beginning
fixed
Actually yes.. that is more accurate
woah woah woah.. no ele on ele hate please, I’m pretty sure all of us have been playing ele since the beginning
So what do you guys think… Rousey or Carmouche? Hendo or Machida?
Good stuff. I’ve fought condition engi’s that I don’t stand a chance in hell of winning against. Even when I select all condition removal traits and ether renewal and cleansing fire.
PLEASE send your spys to Maguuma, I would like to stay in this tier as long as possible
My toon is clearly the sexiest toon in the game but you won’t see me posting score SS’s because OG prides ourselves on not having anything to do with the score.
Did I already miss the reunion party? I had to work =(
Speaking of people loving us.
Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?We just find you guys comical.
All this self promotive talk about how good you guys are and a bunch of lackluster videos.
Then you want to challenge anyone to a 5vs5, but no more than that…dude go to pvp! Not that I blame you entirely for not wanting to go to pvp with the issues with ele’s as it stands I guess…
This and you want to move down a tier…which is odd figuring its pretty easy to wipe larger forces with your 5. Although we don’t see too much of that from you guys…
Just comedy bro.
Well I fully admit it’s harder to do in this tier. In tier 4 we would roam and engage with groups of 10-15 players consistantly, and wipe them. In this tier its usually 20+ (which we definitely consider a zerg). Also 50% of the time we’ll engage in a small fight and before you know it we get culling bombed by 30+. Even that used to not be much of a problem because we could kite larger groups like that around the map while they dwindled down in numbers, but now that people have had months of experience in WvW they finally have learned how to spam immobolize, chill, and confusion bomb. When your little 5 man has those conditions against 30 ppl.. your pretty much screwed. This is why we want to move back down to Tier 4, the groups we ran into roaming, were a bit smaller, while still outnumbering us.
Speaking of people loving us.
Why do FA and DB always try to gang up on me?
Do you have a problem with Maguuma or OG?
And now that you copied my gear look.. everyone thinks I’m you and they focus me!! I’m not bunzy!! I’m the skinny Sylvari, he’s the fat one!
you guys really seem to dislike bt.
me and bunzyu are friendos though
I like BT. They’re unique, at least. They don’t bore us with 4 hour treb wars for west keep. A few of their members are bad posters but hey we have ‘Bunzy and Mike’ so I shouldn’t point fingers.
Corrected that a bit for ya.
Really got to hand it to FA. They don’t have much in the way of individual skill, but the sheer size of the zergs they run makes it not even matter. Really tough opponents.
I can’t figure out why everyone hates on OG. Wait…..
You guys do have some good players I will be the first to admit it but you are lacking in respect to other players. There have been many times in even battles that OG players have been defeated right in front of me yet we don’t come here to the forums talking about lack of individual skill on Maguuma.
Seriously though every time I see you guys doing nothing to help your WvW score I always think wtf are they not in SPvP for?
Anyways let the flame replies begin. haha
I gave credit to a few guilds in the last thread. And yes its true, we don’t care about WvW score. We are a roaming guild and like to roam, not PvD. We do play tournies every once in a while, but WvW is more fun, due to the roaming aspect. We are just not fond of this tier because the majority of the “roamers” we run into are 10+ and even when we engage them, we’ll get ran over by another 20+ enemies that join the fight.
Also if all we ever run into is zergs in WvW, we usually do just start doing tournies, which is probably why a lot of you guys don’t ever see us.
I just want to give a shout out to a few guilds this match up. PRO, rakk, AVTR, and EA. The players from these guilds gave us the best fights during this match up. Thank you for keeping WvW competitive. Also thanks to the guild (cant remember then name but it has an X in it) last night for letting us 5v5 and 3v5. Ofcoarse I can only speak from my own experiences this match up and other members of my guild may disagree with me, but i don’t care what those elitist kitten holes think =P
Why so much hate? We are just a friendly roaming guild. We rarely have more than 10 members online at the same time. If you don’t like us just kill us.
Rakk is not new to DB.
Hmmm. Maybe I never see them because i cant usually log on till 9 pm pacific.
Is [rakk] new to DB? We were running a small 3 man and ran into them in FA BL. We had some really good fights, they have good tactics. Hopefully we can get a 5 man running later and run into yall. Good stuff!
(sorry for this post in advance… such rash comments coming from OG barely deserves any better; sorry Attunement and Bunzy)
AoN continues to rack 5,000+ kills with a 7 man every day. OG continues to talk smack and lies on the forums while doing nothing significant in-game.
AoN continues to construct the team around group-based, team oriented and mobile playstyle destined to break zergs. OG continues to emphasize on how AoN are “scared” and complain about getting outnumbered.
AoN continues to desperately search for a OG group in WvW, as dueling nullifies situational awareness, movement, cohesion and utilization of terrain. OG continues to sit behind the mill.
No, nothing’s changed in the roaming scene.
The only person that has said anything about you guys in my guild is Mike, Please don’t accuse our guild of kitten talking about your guild, infact two of us posted in response saying we respect AoN.
I for one dislike the fact that our guild gets so much hate due to some of our trolls on the forums. It’s not like as a guild we promote that behavior, but it is what it is. We are not going to kick our members just because they like to troll. However If I see posts that our bashing our guild with false accusations, I will most likely post a response.
Duels are fun every once in a while, but I think most of us prefer to roam. We do not just sit behind the windmill. I can’t speak for this match up but I know we haven’t been roaming as much lately because of the zerginess of this tier. No one thinks that you guys are afraid of us, and the reason why we never find each other is probably because our main player base are aussies, hawaiians, or people like me on jacked up schedules so our primetime starts at like 11pm pacific time.
we certainly don’t rack up 5,000+ kills a day, so you guys pulled in over 155,000 kills last month.. man your fingers must be tired =P
So how has the roaming scene been for this match up so far?.. haven’t been able to get out at all due to studying.
lol Mike, why you starting drama with AoN? I would love to see a 5v5 with them too. But AoN (from my knowledge) is a respectable guild. Lets not provoke more people to hate us.
I heard AoN beat Original Grubstars anyways so that means we don’t stand a chance.
I can confirm that condi engies, along with trap rangers, are devastating to d/d eles. People act like because we have tons of condition removal, that we are immune to conditions, simply not true. I have ALWAYS had an easier time fighting against power/crit builds than I have condi builds.
I havent experienced any 4v4 fights where every person is spamming aoe condi removal, but with 4 enemies spamming conditions, wouldn’t the condition application/condition removal rate ratio be the same as 1v1?
[OG] keeps a very close eye on all our players and ensures no one loses a fair right. If it is ever done then that person is removed from the guild and blacklisted from all other gank squads. I can assure you there are no scrubs in [OG].
Do not accuse another player from OG losing a fight with no evidence and also never again by posting a screenshot on the forums or you will be trolled by many people, for the rest of your days.
Change Water EA dodge into an aoe chill, thats one less 2k heal every 10 seconds, a pretty big nerf to eles heal rotation.
Stack conditions on us immediately after water attunement and watch us melt, or stack confusion on us and watch us blow ourselves up, or wait till we get low health, interrupt heal, then burst. (if we are low health and our heal gets interrupted, we will flee or die, so try throwing immob on us after a heal interrupt).
^^^These are the top 3 reasons I die.
I like the new E3, I just use it as a handy 2 sec Immob. The leap is so clucky and slow I find it absolutely useless. Having the ranged 2 sec immob on a short CD is great for a fire combo opener, Or use it defensively to by some time. Or CC an incoming add. They should redo the leap portion or just take it out of the game, its atrocious right now.
Alot of the core OG members have been running tournaments this week. We have roamed a bit in WvW maybe 3 nights so far, had some good fights with laud. Just because you see a couple OG tags in a larger fight and manage to win, doesn’t mean you owned OG. But think whatever you want if it makes you feel better. I’m sure we will get bored of spvp again soon and be out in force on the WvW scene.
Like during a match up your server is winning?
LOL! Yes, you are incredibly correct in your assessment. OG gets so devistated when our server is losing we just lose all sense of hope and purpose. WvW score and objectives are everything to us.
Alot of the core OG members have been running tournaments this week. We have roamed a bit in WvW maybe 3 nights so far, had some good fights with laud. Just because you see a couple OG tags in a larger fight and manage to win, doesn’t mean you owned OG. But think whatever you want if it makes you feel better. I’m sure we will get bored of spvp again soon and be out in force on the WvW scene.
Say what you want about OG, but we do have a very skilled playerbase. yes we have our trolls, or people who become ‘spirited’ when losing, but in the end we are just a small group of players who have respect for their guild. If you give us a really challenging fair fight in WvW we will give you props..but we will also defend our name when guilds we have never heard of try to state that they rolled us, or when we get beat by overwhelming numbers they try to post screenshots and say we suck.
BTW we DO play spvp for 5v5’s and no one that we have faced in WvW even comes close to the skill level of the top teams in tournies. We would never be so arrogant to think that we are the absolute best guild out there, but from my experience, we are the best group from any of the servers we have faced so far.
sorry NA
/15char
Our guild usually does tournies late at night 10pm -2 AM pacific. We never get paid que pops at this time.. just wondering what the best time window we should try to get a group together would be.
I know last night I had a fun 1v1 with a Maguuma necro in FABL while our zergs were fighting eachother around (more accurately above) us by Redvale tower. It’s amazing what a pull and terrain can do for making duels.
Of course, then another 5-8 maguuma poured into the river, so I had to retreat. Was fun anyway.
If you want to do a fight club I’m sure 10+ mag will show up. We love 1v1’s and we’re nice dudes! I think one must already be planned for OG vs FA’s youtube superstars.
I don’t know if one is planned but we are definitely game. BTW the only superstar is Excala, and he deserves it for writing great guides and posting numerous videos 1v5+ BEFORE Eles got popular. No one in our guild has anything against him but we would love to fight him!
Just throwing it out there to add fuel to the fire – FA was a pioneer of roaming 5 mans and most of you D/D ele guys got your build from Excala (daphoenix) in [GODS]
Every d/d ele in OG has been running the spec since before daphoenix posted his guide.
Then let’s see these famous OG D/D eles against Lady Sayrah / Excala and more. Friday fight night behind the windmill, I’m sure we can arrange something. We can see if we can earn your “mmo skill” approval
“A thousand nations of the OG empire descend upon you. Our Eles will blot out he sun!”
lol lastnight was awesome when the server was having issues, I was solo roaming all around DB BL and didnt find a single Maguuman, but i got lots of fun 1v1, 1v2s against DB and FA. Can’t wait for the massive zergs to die down later in the match up.
Daphoenix,
Thanks for this guide, I just started using staff lately in wvw because my guild is actually able to man 2 full groups every once in a while now.. and I’m really enjoying it. I’m not really bored of D/D, as I’ve still got alot to learn, but Ive been wanting to try something new. Just wanted to say thanks for putting this together.
I have been playing the same way since beta and have NEVER had an issue with this, I just noticed it happening today. When I play spvp or wvw, I have the right mouse button clicked down about 90% of the time when I am fighting. I mouse turn all the time and very rarely click the screen. What I have noticed is after using a movement skill like burning speed or ride the lightning, or even just dodging, it acts as if i had let go of the right mouse button, even though i didnt. So it just stops turning my character in the middle of combat.
This is extremely frustrating and I can’t figure it out. I have tried to duplicate the problem over and over in the heart of the mists or out of combat in wvw.. and it works fine. The ONLY thing that has physically changed in the last couple of days is my mouse pad, but I don’t see how that can have anything to do with it.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? I use a razer naga BTW.
Not affiliated with ArenaNet or NCSOFT. No support is provided.
All assets, page layout, visual style belong to ArenaNet and are used solely to replicate the original design and preserve the original look and feel.
Contact /u/e-scrape-artist on reddit if you encounter a bug.