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They do have the same hitbox, but it’s also absolutely true that their skills have much harder-to-see tells, and this definitely makes them favorable for PvP/WvW.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

But how do they fly under water?

Waterbreathers.

Didn’t we get this all out of our system back in November?

Evilzara.6378:

So how did SBI beat AR last week?

We could handle IoJ and AR coming at us frequently in droves. Both servers were gunning for us, but IoJ’s numbers aren’t as numerous as BP’s, and so we could hold them at bay while we focused primarily on AR. This week, we haven’t even been able to keep a hold on our BL because of BP’s presence there, and AR, although not focusing primarily on us now, is still a thick presence in the mist that keeps us from having easy points. The real thing that has been keeping us from beating AR is that you guys are always in our BL, and have held our Hills for practically the entire week, stealing 25 ppt that we could be using to be ahead of AR. It’s a three-way match-up, and BP’s work on us limits our ability to deal with AR and so forth.

You guys (BP) have far higher numbers than other servers we’ve encountered, and way more than your server rank indicates. I am pretty confident that BP could go toe-to-toe with YB, for example, without issue, and that you’d probably have a better match-up with them and EB. I think a really good match-up for SBI / AR would be CD (although they just got some huge transfers, so this might no longer be true).

Half of everything is luck, James. And the other half? Fate.

Stealth stomp is very fair, yes. It’s just as fair as stability stomping, mist form stomping, elixir-s stomping, shroud stomping, blind stomping, distortion stomping, and any other kind of stomping. Every class has some trick they can employ to help facilitate a stomp, and it makes the combat more interesting to keep those tricks in.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Just once I’d like to see a suggestion that makes rewards suck less not get drowned in a tide of “kitten you, got mine”. Just once.

Rewards should suck less. The rewards for Fractals should be better. We should earn more gold, get more cores, get more rares, and have better chances for exotic items at high levels. Fractals can be a painful and very difficult experience, and it should reward better than simple dungeons. That said, the only thing I don’t want is for Fractal weapon skins to become easier to get. They should be a challenge to acquire, and where they are now is “good” for me. If someone gets 1 Fractal skin of their choice at L50 per character guaranteed, I think that is a feat worthy of a Fractal skin, but dailies of 20 and 30 and even 40 shouldn’t be raining Fractal skins down from the sky upon players. These skins should never be available to purchase with gold, or karma, or any currency. I love that not everyone has all of the skins, not even me; I’m still hunting for a few even nowadays after so many runs. That gives me something to work towards, something to strive towards. It gives me an excuse to run Fractals and enjoy myself even though all of the other rewards are abysmal when I could be farming CoE/CoF for more gold/hour. I don’t mind the idea of a Fractal skin ticket, but I think if they go that route, I’d like to see the tickets removed from L20 and L30 dailies entirely, and only be obtainable from 40 and up, with a guaranteed one at 50 whenever they release higher levels.

I liked the IoJ/AR/SBI match-up thread much better than this one. T’was a lot classier. No one really cares why any of you think you’re better than anyone else, we just want to punch each other a lot, laugh, and have a good time.

I personally think ALS is a pretty cool guild, so I don’t think any of the hate is warranted. I was hanging out on the AR BL the other night solo roaming, and there was an ALS dude at every camp. I dueled something like 12 different dudes, joined their group(s), chatted it up for awhile, gave some people some hints, talked about our servers, and left after a few hours. That sort of banter is what I really love about WvW, and it’d be cool to see more of it here too.

Fine with me. Good luck in your travels.

Rouven.7409:

Norn using an Asura as a drumstick!

Fixed that for you.

The proper way to put it is that the math was correct, but the assumptions were wrong!

That said, you are indeed correct in that regard that the cooldown doesn’t begin until the skill has expired. Factoring that in, the uptime becomes 35%, which equates to your number. That said, remember that this is assuming 100B in a vacuum with no other skills. For the burst duration, 100B is dealing 10k dps, which is incredible, and factoring in the rotation to WWA and Evisc + Axe Autoattack, 100B is the most damaging segment of the whole sequence. With a 10% damage nerf to 100B as I suggested, this would still be true by a landslide, but it would if nothing else at least marginally reduce the effectiveness of the Warrior.

That all aside… My point, ultimately, is that the aforementioned rotation needs to be toned down ever-so-slightly, and the other classes that are neglected and worthless in PvE toned up significantly. There needs to be a middle-ground compromise that the classes can arrive at to all become useful. The first things that need to happen to address that is the problem of condition damage in PvE; there is never a time when condition damage is better than power damage.

They’re also great loot bags, and every time you kill a straggler or a distracted player you shrink the size of whatever group he was with, bettering the odds for your server in that fight. This is especially valid if you’re picking players out of a bigger group, and your killing them rallies your buddies.

Bright.9160:

35k over 8 hits, that’s 4.375k damage per hit. That’s the same damage I do on my axe autoattack. So, I don’t see why 100b is broken. People just go “OOOOOOHHHH, big numbers!” without even thinking about it.

Anyone who claims that 100b is the problem with warriors doesn’t have a clue…

I’ll humor you for now. Let us assume no quickness, a 20% cooldown reduction (6.4s cooldown), and consistent Might/Vuln. Assuming 35k as the hit sequence over the channeled time of 3.5 seconds is 10k dps, with an uptime of ~55% works out to a total of 5.5k dps if you just used this skill and nothing else. That’s significantly more than Eviscerate or WWA, both of which have longer cooldowns, one of which (WWA) requires better setup, the other of which isn’t AOE (evis). It’s also better than your axe autoattack. I encourage you to math it out and see for yourself.

100 Blades isn’t “the” problem with Warriors, it is “a” problem with Warriors in PvE and is a contributor to the problem at large. The Warrior could do for a minor nerf in PvE, and the other classes and the entire condition damage mechanic could do for a total revamp to actually be useful. Please see my other post for more discussion.

• In WvW it is easy to stack 25 stacks of Bloodlust / Perception before engaging in a fight, giving those who have stacks an advantage.
• In WvW you have consumables to further augment your stats, giving players higher bursts.
• In WvW, a good Thief will play the role of opportunist most of the time, catching you off-guard while you’re facing another, or while you’re performing some other task.
• Ascended gear exists in WvW.
• In WvW revealed is 3s, in PvP it’s 4s.
• In WvW most players are built for larger scale combat, and so do not perform adequately when singled out by a good Thief. Examples of this that are prevalent are LB Rangers, Staff Eles, and LB Warriors.

All of these things, and probably more, contribute to why Thieves cause more grief in WvW than PvP. If you are a good PvP player built for and trained for performing in small-scale battles, you should be able to handle an equally skilled Thief just fine. They are not broken by any stretch, they just fill a unique role you must be able to handle as their opponent.

Player Character.9467:

100B is barely higher than other attacks available to a warrior and other classes have attacks with significantly higher dps…

• 100B can crit out for a full 35k with appropriate consumables, vulnerability, and might up
• Full adrenaline Eviscerate can crit for 17k or so with the same setup
• Whirlwind Attack hits for the same as Eviscerate if all hits connect with the same target and with the same setup as above

The difference is astounding and irrevocable. 100B’s entire sequence has the single largest 3-enemy cleaving damage of any one skill in-game. Even with a 10% nerf to PvE only, it would still be stronger than Eviscerate and a perfectly setup Whirlwind Attack.

WvW, my guild, and doing things with them. I also have a Fractal weapon skin I still want, and I’d like to finish The Emperor title.

Let it run overnight. A lot of things have been added to the game since release.

Regardless of the ignorance of a few players, there is a very good reason why the PvE trinity of GW2 consists of Warriors, Guardians, and Mesmers, and none of the other classes come remotely close (Except thieves, but only in the case where damage is for a single target, not multiple; lightning hammer eles can also do passably, but are much squishier than a Warrior and the Warrior affords better utility). It is a combination of the following problems:

• Condition damage is pitifully weak in PvE
• Bleed only stacks to 25, and then damage is lost
• Multiple classes applying poison/burning do not stack in dps with each other, while all power-based damage stacks linearly
• Melee damage is always superior to ranged damage
• The Warrior and Guardian have incredible natural bulk, and can afford to melee more safely than other classes in full berserker gear
• Projectile reflects trivialize content more than quickness ever did
• 100B does stupid high damage in all forms of PvE combat

Nerfing 100B by ~10% (and I say this as a Warrior) is only one step in actually fixing the problem that is GW2’s PvE combat.

ColinJohanson.2394:

And yeah that F&F dungeon updated for size would make a good fractal wouldn’t it? =)

Yes, it would, assuming you made it not quite as long. We need more shorter fractals, unlike the Dredge fractal.

It’s rare to see a day where someone is looking for basically the exact guild that fits the way I describe my guild. Hopefully you consider us before you make up your mind, but before we even think that far ahead, let me explain to you where we come from. I’m terribly sorry I missed this post when you made it a few days back, but there are so many posts it can happen. Hopefully you’re still looking!

[VZ] is a medium-sized, casual, PvX guild on the Stormbluff Isle server, and has been here since the game started. We’re casual insofar as we encourage people to play what they want, when they want, and without requirements or unnecessary burdens. That said, we’re primarily an end-game guild, and so we make sure to play at the top of our game and complete content efficiently and without fail. As you’ll see if you read more in the link in my signature, we’re not looking for more members; we want to meet friends, and bring them along for the ride wherever we go. Furthermore, we have lots of guild missions. We’ve got bounties, treks, and rushes, and will have challenges next week (I’m so excited!), so you should have plenty of opportunities to gear out your characters with the ascended goodies. We also have a core PvP group who does that religiously, and they’d be happy to help you learn the rigs if you’re ever interested.

If you’re interested in the guild, like I said before you can read more at the link in my signature, and contact me via any means you’d like to chat it up. I’d be happy to answer any questions you may have, and talk about possibly counting you amongst our ranks. Regardless, I hope the guild search treats you well, and that you find what you’re looking for. It really makes a difference in a game like this.

Cheers.

DevonCarver.5370:

We would like to have a system that rewards servers at the end of a matchup based on their performance and are working out all we’ll need to do to make that happen. Ideally it will give extra rewards for winning while still rewarding everyone for participating. All that being said, it’s hard to know what form the final version will take. Hopefully we’ll have something to get everyone excited to fight for victory.

No. You can’t do this because servers don’t play on equal footing. This isn’t TPvP where every team has 5 players, this is a game format where you’re outnumbered severely or outnumbering severely. If you reward players for having more population, people are going to all transfer to the top population servers because they are more likely to win more often. That’s exactly the opposite of what you want. You want players to spread to lower tier servers and balance the populations as much as possible.

As a Warrior, I totally wouldn’t mind a 10% dps nerf on 100B in PvE. People still won’t want Rangers, Engineers, and Necromancers in dungeons and other PvE content. What those classes need is massive buffs in PvE to be worth bringing. Hell, you could double their condition damage stat in PvE and people still probably wouldn’t take them.

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Icy.1396:

Did SBI throw in the towel already? Where are all those numbers you had last week?

Either in our own BL trying desperately to fend off a consistent flow from the other servers or in EB trying to do the same. I know we’re the new kid on the block, but we really don’t have the numbers to deal with constant pressure from both other servers. We did well last week because we were primarily dealing with AR, and IoJ’s numbers weren’t really comparable during most hours of the day.

Remember we’re entirely a PvX server, so outside of a relatively small collection of very dedicated players, PvX guilds only show up when they feel comfortable contributing. Being focused so heavily and being able to keep nothing upgraded really encourages them to PvE for the week.

It hasn’t been filled yet. Check your “Things I’m Buying” tab.

Clear your mailbox.

Prestige is in the eye of the beholder. If you think of your own acquisition of the item as a farce, then it will be and you won’t care about it. I got many of my skins after countless runs of 48, and there were a lot of speedbumps and learning experiences along the way, and I remember the days I got them fondly because I was so elated. Those skins mean a lot to me, and there is prestige associated with them to me. I look at them and remember the journey to get them. That’s, ultimately, what matters. I couldn’t give a puppy what anyone else thinks when they see them.

The combat probably uses the actual decimal value, and it only rounds for display purposes.

Hey there Daeima:

While these other guys above are trying to lure you to another server, let me present you an opportunity on your own server. You sound like a slightly newer player looking to try some new things and level up, and well, [VZ] is a medium-sized, casual guild on the SBI server. We play hardcore content to the best of our abilities and have a lot of great players with a lot of achievements, but we’re very much casual and “play-what-you-want-when-you-want”. We’re willing to take newer players on runs to things, assuming they’re willing to learn and so on, and we’d be happy to have you along. We’re a guild of friends, and we’re looking for more friends, and that’s really the best way we can put it. Furthermore, I skirmish / command in WvW a lot, and there are others who do it a lot too, so you shouldn’t have a hard time getting into that as well. We also use TS3 and use the SBI TS server for our chatting. We don’t have a quadrillion people on, but, for instance, I’m always on TS if I’m online, and others are the same way. You can usually find people online during our prime (NA primetime, generally).

If any of this sounds interesting, or you would like to know more, click the link in my signature. You can either contact me here, in-game, by PM, or however, and I will get back to you with expediency. Regardless, I hope you find the guild you’re looking for; it does a lot to make the game more enjoyable.

It’s a new week, and we’ve got a new mission coming down the pipes! The last research before guild challenges is currently underway, which means that next week (not this week), we’ll be starting those as a guild. After that, it’ll be the long awaited guild puzzles on the horizon.

If any of this seems interesting, don’t hesitate to let me know! I’d be happy to chat with you about the guild, life, the universe, and other inane things.

Nikaido.3457:

There is no prestige in fractal skins. Players who have soloed content have done something far more prestigious than grinding fotm 48 every single day and have nothing to show for it in game. What you’re calling prestige, I see that as a player who has tunnel vision and enjoys self harm, running the same thing every single day without ever having the assurance of getting what he truly wants (pure RNG). Even legendaries are more accessible because at the very least the grind can get you enough gold to buy a precursor, while you could run fractals for a WHOLE year and not get the ONE weapon you want simply because it’s rng and you could get a lot of skin but they could all be warhorns and spearguns. So prestigious! So much commitment.. uh, no one cares.

I care, and as far as what I personally enjoy about both the game and what my character looks like, that’s the only person who matters. I don’t need your reassurance to enjoy the work I’ve put in for the items I have, be those items from RNG or otherwise. Furthermore, your personal vision of “self-harm” is your own; I enjoy fractals, and I enjoy the content, and I am willing to play the content a lot to get the items I want. Regardless of if I get them on the first or the four-hundredth run, I’ll get them “eventually”, and I’d play the content regardless. I appreciate your opinion, and respect that you seem particularly incensed by the current implementation of fractals and their rewards, but that’s just it, that’s you, not me. I think they’re prestigious, and they show, if nothing else, dedication to Fractals, something I have in spades.

It was a real treat to see the little coffer in my mail when I got home last night. I hadn’t been able to read this thread after I posted, so I was pleasantly surprised. Ended up getting nothing great out of it, but I really appreciate the thought of it all. I am pretty sure I mailed you back saying basically the same thing, though, but I wanted to make mention of it here too.

I don’t like any of the legendaries, and really, I don’t enjoy any of the content you have to do to get them. Mystic forge, farming gold, farming T6, and so forth don’t interest me at all. The fractal weapon skins are perfect for me and players like me who enjoy tough content and are willing to deal with otherwise abysmal rewards just for the mere chance at getting a really cool skin.

randomfightfan.4091:

I bought a scratch and win ticket every day of my life for 20 years. I never won anything big. The day I get 200 dollars from a ticket, “it’ll show off the dedication I’m willing to put forth to get something I really want. There’s a level of prestige associated with that which I personally crave.”

There is NO prestige in it despite what you may believe. If you have a skin, I, and everybody else, will look at you and think, “Lucky terd got the skin I was going for but was lucky enough to get it without even trying. I’ve done more runs than anybody on this server and still don’t have that skin. Lucky noob.” I guess if you think that’s prestige then go ahead and keep telling yourself there’s prestige in the skin.

Firstly, your analogy is flawed because $200 from a scratcher and $200 from my last paycheck look exactly the same to everyone. No one can see the difference. Secondly, prestige is a subjective quality of an object; I learned awhile back that what’s prestigious to one person may be meaningless to another, but what really matters is what is prestigious to the player who is seeking it. I wear my GWAMM title on every character in GW2 because that title is very prestigious to me, and nothing in GW2 holds a candle to the dedication it took me in GW1 to achieve it. Similarly, I wear my fractal weapon skins with pride because I know how much work I put into it, and I know what they mean to me. I love every time someone asks me “How many runs did it take to get those weapons?” and I respond with “Too many. ”

You’re right. I watched it the the first time and apparently didn’t pay close enough attention.

Sithaco.4673:

Just for all the people posting times, quickest one I’ve seen is my buddy doing a 5:42 run with 1 mes 2 thief 2 war.

Note that this is timed from gate opening. Strife’s previously linked video is from OPENING the dungeon, which means that your actual time was much, much slower than his group’s. Belay that.

kittennit.7648:

Because u have the one u want and nobody else should have it?

No, because it means that when I get the one I want, it shows off the dedication I’m willing to put forth to get something I really want. There’s a level of prestige associated with that which I personally crave. And for the record, no, I don’t yet have the last ones I want.

I’m all for tickets instead of random weapons, but if they make the weapons easier to get in general, I doubt I’ll play fractals ever again. The fact that they are obscenely time-consuming to get is a major reason why I love them so much.

I’m not looking for a guild, but I thought I’d post this here for players who are so that they can help us (those who have guilds) find the right guilds for you (those who need guilds). Thanks!

Yeah ANet, we’re broke, fix us! P/P is really bad and could use some buffs for one, and there are a few other things I can think of offhand, but, oh, I’m sure you read the Thief forums.

Aeonblade.8709:

I’m sorry you two feel that some people’s time is more valuable than others. It gives us an insight into humanity and the game both at the same time. Good show. It’s not disingenuous to place blame on the party at fault btw to whoever said that.

I’m sorry that you feel compelled to put words into someone else’s mouth. Nowhere have I said that anyone’s time is more valuable than anyone else’s. All I have said is that we all have time, and we can all manage it how we want. That X player is choosing to spend it on dailies and Y player doesn’t is entirely up to those players. You get out what you put in, as you do with anything in life.

And really, discussing reward systems in a thread about a specific rewards issue (T6 Dust) isn’t that far off topic. It’s actually quite a similar topic, and hits on many linked issues. There is a measure of not feeling rewarded enough for one’s time in the game, and that, extends to Laurels in the case of user Aeonblade and others who don’t like the time-gating associated with them.

Aeonblade.8709:

Whoosh. It’s not a choice if some of us have families and work. Who chooses a game over their family? This is actually really funny to me, thanks :P

Whoosh indeed. It is a choice. You made the choice to not pursue the game at all in favor of maximizing time with your family. Some families play the game together, and some members of a family manage their time effectively and can still have their family and play a game apart from them. That you can’t is nothing more and nothing less than what it is.

Aeonblade.8709:

The trade off being someone’s $60 is worth more than mine, gotcha.

Both players have the same opportunities, one just chooses not to pursue them. That’s the player’s prerogative.

Raven.9603:

I would rather see a much simpler solution:

Spirits are just like auras. The passive buff of the existing spirits radiates out from the ranger, moves as he moves, etc. Likewise, the on-demand effect also radiates from the ranger. Aura runs until canceled.

I wouldn’t like this because it wouldn’t be fun. Even the most passive abilities in the game, Signets, have play to them insofar as you can activate them for a powerful burst effect at the cost of the passive effect. Having a spirit as you suggest would involve no play, and really wouldn’t be fun as a result. I think what really makes spirits fun and unique is that they can die, and that the enemy can counterplay you by killing them.

jubskie.3152:

I was expecting a pretentious post when I came in here and was pleasantly proven wrong

You analyzed the Spirit Skills and traits, gave realistic suggestions and sound reasoning behind the changes. I wish more people like you come into the ranger section

Thank you so much! I’m glad you found the posts constructive!

Stice.5204:

Ultimately, spirits just need to give a better return on investment. Comparing them to warrior banners is inevitable given the similarity of the skills but really the comparison isn’t necessary. Ranger spirits would not be useful even if warrior banners didn’t exist. We have at least a dozen other utility skills that are more useful than any of them, even in a group situation where the spirits are supposed to be at their best.

Ultimately, yes, that’s exactly what it comes down to. That’s why I aimed in my posts to construct spirits in a way where they are valuable to the ranger in a vacuum and where when you compare them to banners, they still retain niche and value. I think that’s the best approach to making them a valuable and meaningful part of the Ranger arsenal.

That is the perfect bunker trap ranger item, actually.

PowerBottom’s post sums it up pretty perfectly, IMO.

I love the last picture. The kitty’s like “Noooo Underworld!”

Thank you ANet for fixing this and allowing us to bump our guild threads!

Bumping this up now that the forums have allowed us to! Thanks ANet!

We had a very successful Bounty last night, and tonight is Rushes / Treks. If you’d like to tag along, don’t hesitate to let us know! We’d be happy to have you along for the ride.

If I see your downed icon on the map, I don’t care how many things you’ve aggroed or how many champions there are. I will res you, by the Gods, and solo everything around you if I have to. This has led to some of my greatest solo experiences in-game thus far.