Guild Wars 2

I’d like the axe to be viable in battle really, i dont even want a skin effect

Just fix our kittening pets, please.

People know that conditions transfer to our pet – half the work for most classes in combat is already done automatically because of this since they can simply apply snares on us knowing they transfer to our pet and will know that we run this if in WS because it’s really the only viable trait there is at this level , and literally is the only condition ‘removal’ we have unless we use a utility slot which only takes 1 condition from us every 10 seconds and be forced to use a kitten heal thats really only good for teamplay or if you bunker, that is utterly unnacceptable. Atleast before the EB fix we had some decent condi removal on par with others, now we’re kittened.

And im tired of seeing ‘just pop the signet and switch pets’ , no … Why should we have to be FORCED to do that? That’s bullkitten and not good in the long run as signet passives don’t work once ou’ve activated.. You’ve removed all the condi and swapped pets, but now you won’t have passive removal for 3 10s intervals.

To put it in short, we got kittened last patch and it really declined the ranger performance as a whole regardless of build as it effects any ranger with a pet and I don’t see any signficant combat changes done anytime soon other than agony resistance for pets in pve situations, but for pvp/wvw I think it’s safe to say that we’re going to be waiting for some months before even seeing a shred of a consistent fix of our class.

It’s kittening bullkitten, can’t ever get a grp in pve , can’t roam consistently , in tpvp every class does kitten better , in wvw there’s nothing a ranger provides to the table that’s unique. Even in 1on1 duels now with the EB fix it it destroys us.

Pet ai blows, half the weapons blow , our eb jus got thrown in the kittenter last patch as it makes our already useless pet even more useless, no decent regen in combat , no trait synergy, f2 is broken on pet , got to use pet swap quickness just to even do f2 on the fly. Which is bullkitten.

It’s like they don’t listen to anything. So whatever.

I just made an engi , hopefully in some months time they’ll get improved, until then it’s other classes for me.

I don’t know, there’s been like 1,000 suggestions for pet ai and devs don’t kitten so whatever. I’m tired of making new threads for the kitten. They need to listen for a change.

Would be great if our pets worked period, and then we wouldn’t be forced to use cc pets because they can’t keep on their target and do damage efficiently.

THANKFULLY the leap from canines covers great distance or i have no clue what would pet i would be using.

But yea, this needs to be fixed, along with our pets.

Pet dodge?

How bout some boon generation and our pet ai fixed. Let’s start there and move on to the next. Foundation first, not specifics.

To be honest with you Karlesi, I don’t think Khenzy has played against a good guardian, ele, mesmer or engi or else he would retract the might statement very quickly. All those classes do boon generation 100x better than ranger.

And yes, 10+ might in battle is common with these classes, EASILY common except maybe the mesmer.

I think the meta is smart, and not downplaying it , its just when some classes physically can’t do it at all no matter WHAT Build you try and you have a majority of the classes that can, it’s just sort of uneven and needs to be fixed because we’re in the position of survivability vs high dmg output and no survivability. Their really is no in between for us. It’s be bunker and stalemate alot or try and kill as fast as you can before you die when all of the other classes get a plethora of other options to kitten with.

No mistakes, there’s just varying ways to run a build is all. You do what you want to do and what works for you is really the important thing anyway. I’m really not trying to argue I just wanna help the guy out.

More precision is going to provide you with more dmg output + bleed on crits if you trait for it which would increase backloaded condition dmg as well as front end dmg and brings life to weapon sigils if you have them like sigil of blood would be good for regen upkeep.

To be honest though, i think toughness is your most important thing at thi point to be looking at. I would definitely go with higher toughness on a condition build because backloading dmg takes longer and you need have the survability and upkeep to handle it really. Without toughness, youll spend half your time in defensive and not doing barely any dmg especially against great players.

I would definitely go with the Pre/Tough/Condition w/ undead runes set, bleed on crit chance trait you get the added benefit of more crits = more bleeds and so forth and if you’re critting alot you can use omnomberry (even though its on a 2sec internal cd now its still quite nice) if you’re in wvw for regen upkeep. The jewelry options are pretty good as well, there’s some pretty good pre/tough/condi like Tortured Root and Plague , but they’re pretty expensive lol. I wear plaguex2 w/ knights jewels and tortured rootx2 w/ knights jewels on my condi build which gives me a ton of condi / toughness / crit chance … Crit dmg and power will be so so but obviously isn’t the main focus here.

That with the pet swap burst combo options you can stack bleeds and burns fairly quickly (assuming you use a fire trap or torch) if you do your skills correctly and with pets , if you use canines you can have a more controlled fighting style , cats good too for condi.. puma f2 pretty good bleed skill as well.

Hope this helps

actually torch is bugged right now as you can use it on a 3sec cd without breaking stealth , please hotfix asap because mesmers are abusing it like kittening crazy right now.

“Which gear (stats) best for trapper build?”

Oldgrimm, what do you take from this title?

On a side note:

To be honest with you, there’s not a definite answer. You can use PPT like I suggested from Karlesi’s build to destroy with traps in which case you’re not using traps for condi dmg but for control, which is a perfect use case scenario for a trapper build by the way and is very optimal for a trapper build.

Or you could go the route of let’s say apothecary or pre/tough/condi for a condition spec unto which you’re backloading condition damage instead of blasting with crit dmg and using traps for more dmg assistance. Both optimal.

Either way the equipment is optimal for the situation.

Use drakehound and wolves against thieves, the cc destroys them and stops their offensive flow which is what thieves are all about. (f2 + knockdown abilities)… Frost trap also.

Offhand axe for p/d thieves – #5 reflects their kitten back on to them , then do a fear , , path of scars, switch weapons and pets (pet swap quickness , swiftness and fury from weapon swap) burst em while they’re feared (if you have +10% dmg while flanking it hurts even more). Throw fire trap onto them when fear breaks off to get em before they go into stealth.

Also, knowing stealth time intervals is huge as well as you can guage when they’ll come back out of stealth, etc.

Trap build in general just murders thieves, both burst and p/d condi.

Too slow still, needs an additional stun or something, its just extra dmg and really nothing more to provide an incentive over, let’s say – horn? To be honest, it isn’t the path of scars dmg that makes me want to do offhand axe (whih was the intent of anet devs) but its the combo finishers they provide.

5 in bm for pet swap quickness, essential for any ranger. and to not on top of it , its not about just staking victims on QZ with the pet swap… That’s just one minor little piece of awesome that comes with this sub trait… EVERYTHING is quicker… when you throw traps, when you cast f2 on pet, sword bursts (insane dmg output) , healing is instant.

you can coordinate combos around your pet swap w/ f2 …. do an insane quickness dmg combo followed by a fear with your wolf pet if you were to run him, etc.

so much to do with pet swap quickness besides just finishing people quick. i think QZ is a waste of a utility imo.

“I think the OP is asking an optimal gear for trapper,”

Define optimal?

Then you reference to a thread where a guy isn’t even using traps, period.

Confused here.

Like Karlesi suggests in his build threads, he usually go high crit / toughness / power … Knights w/ citadel runes (maybe 2 being in earth for 20% prot duration – up to you).

Use shortbow / sword axe or horn , up to you , axe provides more combo fields finishes and wrecks projectile attacks with #5 (guardian 2handed sword whirling wrath skill, p/d thieves, etc)

Zerker on all weapons , sigil of blood on bow , sigil of leeching on sword, sigil that freezes when switching OR force on whatever offhnd (+5% helps but freezing may be good too to help with mobility and keeping off you).

For jewelry , i’d PROBABLY go with knights with zerker stats, but it seems , according to Karlesi as well that Valk stats on knights is if not as effective but may be better. If you ahve FOTM just mimic the same stats as exo jewelry (laurel stuff has ppt now)

The amulet is up to you, if you have FOTM gear you can use something like Szygyny … I have an ascended triforge amulet that I have and a knights amulet in case i want to up my ppt more.

With something like 0/20/30/5/15 or 0/30/30/5/5 and cit runes you’ll nearly be fury the entire fight, giving you a 20% crit chance boost.

“Rangers are deadly one on one. I don’t think any class could beat my bunker/condition specs one on one. Dunno where your attitude came from.”

Condi specs are easily countered by top tier players, lol

“I don’t have a problem with dueling a ranger or two to check out how their builds work; I actually don’t see many around (go figure), so I haven’t got a whole lot of experience fighting them thus far.”

Sounds good, add me ‘Tanbin’ in game.

If you havent dueled a bunch of rangers then in itself will be a good learning experience with your guardian as well on top learning options for your own ranger.

I tended to be able to handle 1v2’s and 1v3’s better with 0/0/30/10/30 but fights generally took alot longer and have to have smart utilization of combos for dmg efficiency. Although with my new high toughness/power trap build, I’m able to handle more 1v2’s now as I progress with the style of play it offers.

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Also, on a side note: We usually do duel nights in south kaineng/blackgate (we’re matched atm obviously) borderlands with [DUEL] guild members and I’m not sure if you’ve been there or not but I’m pretty much usually the only ranger there so if that’s your best time to do learning duels too we can practice then as those start around midnight eastern US time not sure on your time schedule, etc.

Anyhow, besides all of this though , I hope you end up enjoying the ranger. It’s my favorite class and still is despite some it’s drawbacks. I absolutely love the style of play and enjoy destroying people in 1on1’s / team play simply because of the conception of rangers being bad in general.

Are you looking for 1on1, duels specifically? Or are you looking to do what you do in those videos specifically? I think you specified what, but I just want to make sure.

Only build that would come close to what a guardian can do , and in your videos atleast is a 30/10/30 build possibly with greatsword / sword torch but even then your damage will be horrible and you’ll be relying on pets most of the time.

Maybe we could duel as I see you’re on Blackgate and I can help you out with various builds as we duel so you can get an understanding. I know it’s only in the context of duels but should give you a good understanding of the class in general and what it’s strengths and weaknesses are.

When I enter a zone for the first time and unsheath Aether it does the flame burst, but after that it doesn’t do it anymore. Is this for anyone else?

I’d like it to do it everytime , would be awesome

Yea I agree, please bring this back asap.

We got a gain, to an offhand axe ability that was used by 5% of rangers in the first place, probably not even that much used offhand axe. I’m sorry, you’re trying to justify this patch and there is no justification. We got kittened, it’s simple as that.

“We have gained more than we have lost. And with these gains there are more possiblities.”

Explain the gains?

I can almost guarantee they’re talking about thieves being able to stealth past areas they shouldnt , I know for example a thief can stealth past legendary guards and get through.

I know thieves probably can’t do their shadow wall jumping stuff anymore which probably had something to do with it.

That’s the only thing I canthink of though, I highly doubt ranger pets got this , lol.

“If there are other more interesting professions to play, why should you stuck with your ranger? My dungeon support mesmer is so fun that I almost considering delete my ranger and make a thief for trying out.
I play game for fun, not for suffering.”

But, it’s not about playing what you want to play. It’s about us not being able to play what we want to play because they choose to fix the icons of the birds instead of actually fixing the birds themselves.

You know, it’s kind of sad to see the changes and with the word of our traps getting nerfed soon (only rumor , nothing specific) I don’t know where this is going to end up for the ranger.

The problem isn’t any of the kitten they listed:

Pet ai, Spirits, Axe weapon jus to name a few… I could go on forever really.

Is it that hard and long and cost intensive to fix the pet ai? Don’t even bother working on bird graphics, you have hundreds of class fixes on the table and you guys kittening fix the bird icon? Let’s see how well the bird icon change does for me in combat, oh … I can see the same pet not doing kitten in a fight, just has a more noticeable icon graphic. thanks guys for helping us out with that.

Seriously?

I find it funny when thieves come in here and complain. Thief, a class that isn’t too used to having to adapt to other overpowered classes… See that’s the difference between the ranger and a thief. We have to constantly tweak our kitten left and right to evade all the op bullkitten alot of other classes get. We have one thing you don’t like and it gives you a challenge and if you lose to it , you cry nerf. But we as rangers deal wit h hat everyday, that is nothing new to us. We adapt and learn how to counter. Finally get a counter and you folks cry for nerf… It’s just too hilarious.

But yea, if you give a thief or any other class who is used to winning (because their builds are op as kitten) a challenge and end up killing him , be prepared for a plethora of ‘nerf!’ calls.

That is funny to me, probably to a bunch of other rangers in here as well.

Also to expand on my answer on #1… Traps are hardly used for damage as a priority… If you use them for that, then you need to rethink your class. Traps are meant for controlling people and where they go, not how much damage they do.

If the traps are visible, you’ll just know you need to either have one of 2 options, run through them , or run around them…. Either way you’re taking ranged damage anyway. That’s the point of the traps, so making them visible or invisible isn’t really something to kitten or complain about , it would just be another decision in your battle but you can avoid the traps, fine with me , just means you have to run around something else to get to me is all.

“1) Make traps aoe viewable like the rest of the aoe in the game
2)buff other rangers builds so people have more than one or two ways to be a viable class”

1. Why? Confused on this, if you make em visible or invisible , doesnt matter… They will still do their job when you run over them.

2. I beat numerous classes with condi build, sword / torch and gs bunker build, trapper builds of numerous types. – I’m just confused why the ranger has only 2 good builds? If we’re grasping straws here, what about the ele , which has only one viable build that could be considered overpowered due to the stats they’re able to generate.

It seems like you got outplayed and you’re just complaining that they’re overpowered because you yourself haven’t found a counter to it yet. That’s all I see here…. In games like this you WILL meet people who are better than you , regardless of the build so that’s just something you’re going to have to get used to, bottom line.

I heard it’s an exploit to utilize Guard to do this. Please be careful when you do stuff like this.