Guild Wars 2

This isnt an exploit btw. It’s extremely easy to counter, all you have to do is walk through that north inner gate and you can see their “red” name tags though the wall. The issue isnt a mesmer exploiting, its folks not doing a proper mesmer sweep before they run off to do something else. As stated in previous posts, mesmer portals are extremely easy to block, just do a mesmer sweep!

StormWolf.7645:

…You so silly.
1: Those are Fergusons genius.
2: Great picture of us retaking our Keep…wonder how it was lost…? Oh right. From 60+ Devs. I had the Outmanned Buff when it was lost. In my own BL. Oh…and most of those people in that picture?…Were still there then, not our fault you got ditched by most of your people, at least you HAVE them to ditch you. -.-
3: Those look like the same ones in the 2nd picture…Seeing almost all the same Guilds and everything. And those Guilds(except SoS) are NOT that big.
4: …That’s in EB…and SoS. No one has ever denied SoS has absurd numbers, but they can’t really be counted in our tally because they are inconsistent WvWers.

1 – you’re right, their ferg, posted because some folks there keep saying the same thing you say.
2 – 2 groups were in there mate, one dying at the keep, other trying to keep DR from returning from WP. again..no population after 1am…remember ur post?
3 – we ninja’d the keep right out from under your zerg and no, youre lil zerg got crushed first at south, then north…oh and whoever it was hope they liked the punt off the cliff from the ninja wall spot. Cuz i enjoyed the loot bag.
4 – Yea, its in EB…posted this because there were 2 zergs, one in your BL the other in EB. Again…imaginary poplulation that dont exists.

Anywhose – nuff said. Just because youre not part of them, see them, or online when they are…Ferg/Kain BOTH have numbers at night when they choose to have. So stop trolling untruths. latahs!

I emailed the pics to Anet so hopefully when they validate them i can get rich by proving that ghosts DO exists!

@Ferg
You like the Garrison ninja by DR. =)

@Kain
Great fight at your Garrison tonight. Was fun watching the massed up Kaineng’s fighting us at the eastern walls, while we backdoored the champion from watergate. Wish I could have read minds when it changed to DR’s possession, all those Kains still on the inner eastern wall were like WTF! lol Great fight though.

@the Kaineng [CNB] warrior fighting at north bay and arah’s camp. I was that elemental all in your group of Kains doing dmg. great fight between us 2, annoying was your other guildees though. couldnt get u spiked cuz of everyone there hitting me..rofl.

Draygo.9473:

Devona’s careful plan of actually attacking ferg failed this week, and PRO was a primary offender.

Again…check score. 9 weeks straight. Objective met, again.

PRO — well we go there in small numbers to have fun. Kain’s given up it seems so other than NPC fighting Ferg BL is the only place to find a fight. It is funny though when a very small group of DR folks go to Fergs, take a tower/camp…..and Ferg calls in a 10:1 ratio zerg to retake it. Thanks for the compliment =)

@Chaster
I’ll give some respect to you, you did admit to being a PvE guild and only capable of PvDooring in Wv3 with no care to if Kaineng needs help in Wv3 or not. Props to being at least honest about it.

But its a darn shame that a guild your size that could make a HUGE impact on your servers ranking if you only tried to help the server instead of focusing solely on “guild events”. I’ve ran into SoS many a time late night at Kains Hills, and we both know what the typical outcome was there when you showed with your 25+ SoS zerg vs 7-8 DR folks. (thanks for all the loot bags) Was sad when you stopped trying to take it back for most of the night and wouldnt hit it until the defenders had dwindled to 2-3.

Kains other shifts can still field some pretty decent numbers and they still have a lot of awesomely skilled players who want progress. How about making a guild event of “Dominating Wv3” cuz with your numbers you could probably take and hold maps for several hours. As it is right now though, you run the defenseless map PvDooring, then disappear soon as any resistance shows up.

Maybe I’ll contact some friends of mine on EU server and see if they’ll transfer over just to play with you during your primetime. =) Nasty bunch of folks…sorta like a Tier 2 version NoQQ/LARP/Envy small group strats tied up with PROs map strats. I’ll see if i can find some vids of em and post for u.

@Kain =( I still like you all, regardless of if you like me, PRO, or DR.

Berkut.2837:

Indeed, Darxio’s advertisement certainly sounded daunting. Map chat in my experience is often very friendly. Darxio may be speaking out of experience from wearing the commander tag (commander directed comments that most of us might not see). Either way, Kaineng is often very friendly in chat.

The brief moment I spent on Kain was openly hostile!!!! (lol) But i do understand the reason behind it though. Other than that moment, everyone on Kaineng seemed to be pretty darn nice in mapchat and seemed very eager to jump in and do whatever. Might be Commander anxiety? Easy to get that when you have the people to do strats but they’re zergin for the loss instead. Dunno…just sad to hear more friction in KAIN, like several of em maself.

Harbinger.8637:

What’s with all the people Alt+F4ing….

:(

Yea, last night seemed like every Ferg I ran across was crashing out. Didnt recognize any of the guild tags so guess they were mostly PvErs running around goofing. Still anoying though. Put in a suggestion so auto drop a loot bag if anyone crashes out though, got idea after talkin with guildees about it last night. (lol)

insanemaniac.2456:

because your loud, annoying, really visible in game, and usually part of disorganized zergs that are easy to wipe.

Well now mate, you just proved yourself to be quite the uniformed one. As anyone who knows me…you will almost NEVER see me in a zerg. I tend to migrate back to upgrades, building siege, checking upgrades at other places while other folks run in zerg groups.

If you gonna open your mouth, please ensure its accurate else you just make yourself look, um…well…lets not post it in forums.

Wish you well in Wv3 and all your gaming exploits! (no pun intended)

Shadowkx.2738:

Does it go something like this?
1. Join high pop server and recruit like crazy
2. Transfer large guild to the least populated tier
3. ???
4. Win

?? We transfered from a high pop server after recruiting like crazy??

Can you inform me when and where that happened as you seem to have all these socalled “facts”. What i remember was a dead server so a guild concurance to move…the guild leader didnt research, just literally picked the last ranked server in the game.

Oh, and please check my post AGAIN about PRO’s numbers. Dunno why everyone keeps getting stuck on the 300+ part and not what’s actually in Wv3. But hey, some might have a reading disorder so I wont bother them.

PS: I touched maself and it burns…..

Fun fights in DR, Kains, and Ferg BL. I thought I’d die laughing when the DR group got to Kains Garrison…and in mapchat i see..“nobody has siege or supplies”….rofl

Some folks never learn eh…. well gratz on defending it from the nubs. They all left when they failed at taking it. Gave u a chance to PvDoor back ur map. We started to put up a little defense at Hills, but no supplies, no siege, and all of 7-8 of us there just wasnt gonna compete with the 20+ u had at the south gate. Was fun though.

Props to you all!

Zizanzi.4678:

@ DredWhatChaMaCallIt

No one on the servers even knows who you are other than what you type on the forums. Who the heck are you really? I know small man is not popular with you at all. I sense from the forums you are competent, capable, and dangerous though and you appear to have a “loathing” for small man PVP. I have no doubt that your intentions are to be the vocal assassin of small man groups while trying to have others in the guild recruit them to DR. Perhaps you don’t understand the mentality of small man since Devona’s is pretty much a Zerg server and you need to lash out at what you don’t understand. You Sir have no legitimacy in commenting on small mans @ all and I can say with confidence for all of NoQQ/LARP that only your numbers gives you a chance.

Stylii Elementalist
Shoulda Rolled Kaineng (NoQQ) Leader

You mistake me, i dont hate small group fighting! I love it actually, but i moved from a Tier 1 server all the way to the bottom for the lower queue times and increased fighting action. But mainly for the struggle to try to push a bottom tier upwards. I guess i shouldnt have made it sound as though i “hate” NoQQ/LARP, as i dont. I just think there’s a place for pure fighting and not helping server progression, its in the PvP environment. I understand your large scale fighting enthusiasm, and i sooooo wish PvP had a giant map for such (a WvW PvP map instead of a wv3?) I’m in chats with lots of folks from both Kain and Ferg and one of the common themes when we talk about guilds on those servers is the guilds that are highly active in Wv3, but contribute little to nothing to progression. That’s what I was directing comments at. You both have some great players and your teamwork is one to be proud of an emulated by everyone else. Now if you’d take that small group teamwork and push it outward to include other Wv3rs on the server…..imagine the possibilities! It just seems you actually limit yourselves by focusing on “killing DR and PRO”, i believe you as guilds, players, and both servers have so much more to offer than that petty statement. You’ve proven time and time again you have awesome small scale strats, I’d love to see it extended large scale and see you advance your server vs being happy at the bottom.

@Etna
Not sure who was talking to you about transfering and joining PRO, wasnt me. I’ve talked to 2 guild leaders on both Ferg/Kain and we discussed them transfering to DR and/or joining PRO…neither was you or your guild. So dunno who was talking to you and please refrain from stating a “guild” want’s you when you’re talking to someone from a guild. Short of Phiz, the guild leader, talking to you about it, everyone else is a one v one conversation, not a guild v one. Understand?

@Tigilie “Drednyte, you should focus more on actually winning the matchup instead of what LARP is doing”
— Um…8 weeks in a row of wins. Send me your address and I’ll mail you a free copy of Webster’s New World Dictionary so you can look up the meaning of “Win” and “Lose”, seems you have it backwards.

@Creslin “PRO is a big guild. It is probably bigger than Envy, NoQQ and LARP combined”
— PRO has 340 members currently with about 30 getting kicked this Friday as they havent been active since we transfered to DR. Of the remaining 310, about half are purely PvErs who never Wv3. 155 left, out of that an easy 40-50 still game but do so 1-2 times a week for less than 3 hours, ie: not counted on for progression. So the PRO numbers we can field are a little over 100 members that on average game 3-4 times a week for bout 4-5 hours. Spread that out over the week and you’ll see that PRO isnt anywhere near as “big” as folks seem to think nor can field “huge PRO zergs” as been commented in the past. If you actually pay attention you’ll see the majority of time, not counting primetime on our “max member days”, the average PRO group is normally 6-10 members and we tend to focus on objectives instead of zerging karma trains.

Oozo.7856:

So yeah today I discovered something pleasant.. People in Kaineng are using hacks! First I saw a Sylvari Necro fly away when I was kind of owning him, and later on I find several other flying Kains. Also I have had the issue of not being able to finish people off. 1 of those was a fly hacker so I’m almost certain that that is also a hack.

Sad to see that you guys have hackers on your side!

I asked Habib about this and he actually directly replied.

Tonight i saw and reported a Kaineng using the speed hack. He was from the [CNB] guild, thats about 4-5 times this week I’ve heard of that particular guild having members using hacks. Hopefully the reports will get reviewed and some accounts will get banned.

@ LARP/NoQQ — not sure if i understand your concept of war. You claim u like to just fight, ignoring server rankings and such. But you jump ship from Kain and run to Ferg. Not like there wasnt any fighting on Kain. Then you claim in the forums, at least NoQQ has, that when DR moves up you’re going to transfer to the #1 ranked server in that bracket. You claim that DR hasnt got any Wv3rs in general, with a few exceptions, you boast and chest thump about how great you are….yet you want to transfer to continue to fight DR? Sounds like that’s a huge compliment to everyone on DR. I mean, if you were as good as you keep ranting in the forums and if we’re so easy to kill and you want nothing but a good fight…why transfer? Obviously your forum rants are fake, you must think DR is a serious threat and great competition.

But on a side note: no real need after this to even address you 2 as you did nothing on Kaineng to help with server advancement, and from what I’m told, nothing on Ferg either. Still not sure why if u just want to fight you dont do sPvP or tPvP….unless you tried and it didnt work out as planned. Well gluck to yas!

@Chris: I was gaining respect for you, until now. When u was on DR you publicly chatted how you’re only in Wv3 for exp/karma trains. You got a very bad rep for it and then you bounced to Ferg. Started hearing good things about you there, and ur Np guild. But lets be honest a bit. Pretty much the only time i see Np is just like when i see SoS…in force of 20+. If you cant zerg I only see the dedicated Wv3rs from Np in the fight. 90% of what I see you do, when Im online, is PvDoor. Just like SoS late night…nobody is on so they take their 25-30+ zerg and PvDoor the maps. But you hit some defense you’re zerg tends to fall to pieces. Np and SoS have both been crushed at your Hills repeatedly by 6-8 DR players. At one point SoS just stopped trying to take it back, now we dont even bother taking it cuz no fights anymore.

And the end: All servers have their “primetime” zergs, their offshift teams, their soloist…etc.

Ton of great players on all 3 servers and I’m sure you all will keep up the great matches. When DR moves up a tier I’ll be watching closely what you all do. I fully expect Kaineng to take the bracket after DR and we’ll meet again maybe. Ferg..well, short of getting some guilds/players in there that want to advance and not just do PvP….pretty sure Ferg will be the “bottom of the bucket” for the unforseen future.

I find it funny how almost every post is “DR can do nothing but zerg.” I agree, DR has a larger Wv3 population these past 2 weeks than Kain or Ferg in “general” but not 24/7. And its a shame that the old “manpower” excuse keeps flying out of folks mouths. Bout 8 weeks ago or so when I got to DR there wasnt a “massive DR population in Wv3” and there wasnt a “massive transfer to DR” either, unless some folks define massive as 20-25 for the first week. There was a solid 4 weeks of pretty even numbers as to general Wv3 population with a slight advantage going to DR and Kaineng over Ferg.

We started pretty even, DR managed to have better tactics and teamwork that both of u, hence we pulled ahead and stayed ahead. Our fault you started losing players? Nope. Our fault 4 of your largest Wv3 guilds jumped ship? Nope. You want to blame us for everything, how about you just accept the fact DR didnt like where it was at a few weeks ago, decided to make a change, implemented, and owned. You dont like it…then by all means do the same. But can you please stop blaming DR for everything YOU do wrong. The reason youre not winning and/or cant win…you have a lot of players/guilds who run into Wv3 with the “soloist” concept and no intentions to help push your server up the ranks. That is 100% YOUR SERVER fault, not DRs. How about you take it up with those players/guilds who do nothing but join a map and run around looking for a fight. Not helping gain points, not helping defend, not helping to upgrade, build siege, etc. Pretty much doing nothing for Wv3 rankings. On the map doing PvP in Wv3 because they probably tried PvP and got owned. For those who keep posting “We dont care about points”…well if thats the case why are those same folks in the forums QQn about everything? If you dont care about server rankings..why arent you in PvP?

Anyways…theres a ton of awesome Wv3 gamers on Kaineng and Fergs…if you truly want to rank up, move to DR or transfer to another server that wants the same thing(s) you want. Dont let yourself be stuck in the mud with QQrs who fault everyone but themselves for being at the bottom.

Everyone likes to win, most dont mind losing…but everyone likes to give 100% towards the same goal, then if you win or lose it doesnt really matter because you gave it your best. Ask yourself this: Are the Wv3rs on your server giving it their best FOR the server or FOR themselves? You decide the answer and stay or transfer as you see fit.

Tiglie.5834:

SpaceLord.4590:

You see there is also another way to look at it which isn’t always seen from the outside.

No idea about Cragtop as I was in the south so I can’t comment on that one. There were about 15-20 of us South and we held it all including Red lake until we ported out. There was also a treb hitting your Bay, with all cannons and Mortars already destroyed.

If you did “Smash” us at Red lake it was after most had already ported out to Kain and our BL.

All of this was right after we set up a trap and got your group and the 3 golems caught in the water at our Bay. Whoops I forgot we don’t have strategy I must be mistaken Didn’t see the video on that one posted.

Yes we have a long way to go, but fighting you guys hopefully is making us a little better.

And this is why everything gives you kitten constantly PRO……..are you honestly saying it was 15-20 of you in the southern part of your BL yesterday night or are we talking about 2 completely different things? You are so delusional about your numbers it not even worth repeating, but reread my original post.

Actually, both of you are right. At the start of the push there was only about 15 folks in the south. It wasnt until maybe an hour into the push that more showed up. Not sure when u joined, but maybe was after the other DR folks arrived.

@Darxio
Sounds like you need to transfer mate. Its obvious you have conflicting ideas on where u want your server to go in regards to the general populace on Kaineng. Just transfer to a place that wants to advance. But continuous QQn here or whining, for lack of a better way to say it, its deconstructive. It just promotes a wider gap on your server that Kaineng will have to overcome.

If it bothers you that much, you feel so underappreciated, or you just tired of it all….transfer. Id give you respect for that as i would do it also in your position. More respect that I’d give WAR/iSPY for a blind sided transfer like they did. I mean, if they really wanted to start winning…they could have made changes to orient the server that way…not just blind side an entire server.

NoQQ/LARP – i like u both, always fun fights. Lil disappointed at you bouncing right after WAR/iSPY. If those small group/solo fights are all you’re looking for, then youre not really helping to advance your server, sPvP or pPvP might be better for you?

k, flames can begin =)

PS: regardless of who left what server…in my book you all are outstanding gamers and should be given ur props.

Skarloc.2569:

Speaking of zerging, if you are going to do so and ignore my legitimate suggestions, here’s a good tip for you. Always lie about how many you really had with you. I know what you’re saying, “Skarllok, we do that anyways!” That is true, but some of you do it better than others. The idea behind this is to make it so laughable and unbelievable that it warrants a response. See, no one cares that you zerg, but if you grossly exaggerate the numbers, sometimes you will get a response, which we all know is what you’re looking for. I like to call this situation, Drednyte’s Guide to Fuzzy Math. That man has got this down to a science. Believe in him, follow him, love him.

I love how folks like to drag me into their lil issue problems. But what i find the funniest is all those folks flaming me in the past forums about my “fake numbers” seemed to shut right up when i started posting pics of those “imagined zergs”. Come to think of it, thats right about the time i started getting reported for every post I made. All i can say is this, post pics else just dont post. All the talk of “nobody on late night” was proven false and heck with the pics I posted from both Ferg and Kaineng. Their numbers were there, the desire to win was not.

And I would remind everyone, my posts were based on what I saw in the fights I was in…for some reason folks playing on primetime seemed to always wanna say i was wrong about the numbers, of which they were never there. lol

Anyways….see ya in the map!

Well Imma jst say it cuz nobody else did. If WAR and iSPY wanted "better Wv3’ then they’d have moved to Ferg. Moving UPWARDS is lame as heck when its 2 large guilds at the same time. That is going to rip the bottom out of that tier. All the forum posts from those 2 guilds boiled down to “QQ we cant win so were moving upwards to a winning server”. Meh…cant speak for primetime, but the WAR/iSPY i saw on late night wont be missed much. Typically a zerg fest that couldnt roll over 6-8 DR folks defending somewhere, then would jump maps and go PvDoor until the same happened there then they’d jump maps again. No great loss to Kaineng as a whole, just loss of easy loot bags for DR. Kaineng, you’re better off without them as now your truly skilled players will shine!

Ok, all that was pretty much a troll. (lol) was hopin it would fire up those 2 guilds and get em to stay! If it did, great, if not…(sad panda). Gonna be missed, hope you both meet crushing defeats! (lawl jk)

Skarloc.2569:

Drednyte.7601:

And regardless of what either server says..DR was outmanned most of the night.

At no point did you ever have fewer numbers than us last night. I’m not sure if this was directed at our group that you were fighting, but that’s a fairly laughable statement to make given some of the numbers you guys had late into the night.

Wasnt referencing DR numbers across 4 maps. I was talking about the numbers we had on our borderlands during the majority of the time i was online. We were outmanned almost all night, wasnt until around 4am that more DR started to creep into our homeland. Not sure when/who you was fighting, but there was 6-8 of us in our homeland for an easy 3-4 hours that was holding off Ferg group of about 15ish. That group we wiped 2-3 times then they bailed the map to go PvDoor at Kains BL. Kain showed up and we managed to wipe them also. Ferg group came back and got inside the Hills, but wiped at inner and left the map again. Wasnt until after 4am that i think around 8-10 more DR showed up. I logged around 530am, pacific, and there was a Ferg and Kain group both in our BL. Ferg had around 15ish and Kain hard bout 20-25 at one point. Kain got crushed and ran around NPC fighting at camps while we engaged Ferg. Was holding when I left but dunno after.

@Stonewolf…props to ya.

Well fun night for me, stayed in DR BL all night defending it. Had some serious manpower shortage for most the night lol. That coupled with some hateraid from Ferg, then Kain..then Ferg…then both…lol (not so much hate..but nice groups of 10ish most times with some upwards of round 20)

At one point DR BL was defended by bout 8 of us for the longest. We managed to thwart Fergs push everywhere they went. Got to the point they were tryin to PvDoor sneak us! But we caught em. One fight at Sunny was fun, dunno how much superior siege we wrecked of yours, but was some tight fighting with walls breaking, supplies, low…too much red over the walls. lol Nice push, jst glad when some help arrived.

Kain/Ferg both kept up a pretty decent push in our BL, but the good ole night crew managed to not just hold it, but push them completely out twice. And regardless of what either server says..DR was outmanned most of the night. But i will admit, defending is much easier to do with smaller numbers than offense. Great fights all around and props to both servers.

thenoobler.7540:

Kaineng got a well deserved win. Then the Halloween event came and we took the week off for it. It was that week PRO xfered to DR, and claimed on forums to be bringing 450man guild (thier words) to DR. They proceeded to dominate WvW with alot of WAR/iSPY and others having taken the week off. They didnt win with class, but instead thier own version of Kaine’s chest thumping but this time wasnt just one guy.
When we did come out to WvW the week after, it was near constant accusation of hacking/exploiting/PvDoor.

Lets get it right please: PRO transfered 19 Oct, at that time we had roughly 450 members. It took about a week for roughly 200 PRO to move to DR, that first week we had about 50ish total on DR i believe.
Oct 19-26 : DR won
26 Oct – 2 Nov: Halloween event (also reset that Kaineng posted a challenge to DR in forums) DR won…owned the reset thru weekend btw.
Nov 2- 9: DR won
Nov 9-16: DR won
Nov 16-23: DR won
Nov 23-30: DR won

Thats 6 weeks of DR winning in a row. And before u try, no it was not PRO that made that happen. GASM/RED had already laid an awesome foundation to help get DR off the bottom. PRO just transfered at the moment they implemented the plan. The plan, involving a LOT of guilds and players on DR….worked. We merged into coordinated TEAM of gamers that helped each other when called on to help.

Were there transfers? Yes, there always will be. But the transfers isnt what kept DR in the #1 spot. Anet rates DR as a “High” population server, it rates Kaineng as a “High” population server….that being said..the problem isnt server population, its Kainengs lack of Wv3 population for one…the other is solid teamwork and communication. (latter being the most important as that can overcome population: note Fergs current abilities, props Ferg)

To those that dont track “numbers”…thats kewl. But tons of us want to rank up and see how high we can get. Doesnt mean fighting for fightings sake is bad, but the majority on a server that Wv3 wants to rank up so id think curtesy would focus even the pure “fighters only” into a team concept to help rank up. I mean, there is a forum for solo play, sPvP.

Kaineng: u got issues, yes u do, wont deny it. But its not DR, its not Ferg…its internal to Kaineng. Before you can pull ahead, you gotta stop with the finger pointing and fix whats wrong internally.

One last comment: If you know #1 spot is locked in…the most heated fight’s i’d think would be for the #2 slot. That being said…to boost your overall rating and maintain #2 would be simple, focus on the other server, not DR. DR can/will take and hold what it can, will lost stuff throughout the day/night. But it’d be more advantageous for Kain/Ferg to go at it tooth n nail in their BLs or wherever they see the other to minimize the other servers points. Attacking DR isnt going to accomplish that. DR can pretty much maintain DR BL and chunk of EB on a regular basis. Thats bout all the Wv3 population we got. That being said, that leaves Ferg/Kain BLs wide open for either of you 2 to take/hold the other. Maximize long term point spread, minimize the others! Just a thought.

Well, gluck all and hope to be back in the Wv3 fights when i can..yay RL!

Nice fights tonight Ferg. You brought your zerg to DR’s BL in force and ready to pwn. Too bad we shut u down with all 8 of us vs your 20+….lol. Love defending! Well, to be fair defending is a lot easier. We held you as long as we could, called for help from the other maps, but i think at 4am there was maybe 20 DR online combined on all the maps rofl. Kainj’s PvDoor team woke up and started in on EB, so we couldnt get any reinforcements. Thought you had the Hills there for a sec, yay for upgrades and full supplies! lol.

Well, great fights and even though I’m sure u all will take our BL as you’ve got us outmanned by bout 3-4:1 easy….we gave u a heck of a good fight =)

All round fun times.

Darxio: ive noticed when u losing, u always QQn bout “DR hates us”…but when ur winning its “Kain owning DR”…u almost never post about your fights with Ferg. So im to understand its ok for Kaineng to focus soley on DR..but not for DR to focus on Kaineng? Even though we’re not, regardless of what you think, DR is in a throwdown with Ferg just as much as we’re fighting you. Stop da waahhhtrain, get back in the fight. Or stick to PvE. (lol jk)

when Ferg finally decided to not let u keep having 2nd place..they stepped it up and pushed u so u were fighting 2 fronts. like DR been doin for over 5 weeks now. Welcome to WvWvW mate. Lot of guilds on Kaineng working just as hard as KAIN…jst sounds like you have no coordination or teamwork.

and DR doesnt hate Kaineng. But ur server has stated in the forums numerous times how you all “hate DR”, so shouldnt be upset when DR focuses on you. Just a thought. But i dont think there’s hate there, jst DR folks interpreted it as something of a challenge. Kaineng always attacking DR for the most part and rarely Ferg…..so they were doing the same.

Bro, i feel ya pain…i vote u move KAIN to DR…awesome guild with awesome gamers. shame to let it get the short end of the stick.

what happened to kaineng???

WOW! My post, a joking post btw, about taking the Wv3 guilds from all 3 servers and transfering to one server to push up the ranks set off a TON of comments. I got flooded with in game mails, whispers, PM posts here, and some comments in the thread on it. Seems a LOT of players like the idea, common problem…nobody wants to be the one to “move”. lol.

Given some more thought, its actually a great idea to be honest. We have outstanding gamers/guilds on all 3 servers who want to rank up. But we cant or wont get far due to having too many gaps in coverage. Server transfer merger is the common sense solution. We’ve been fighting each other for quite a long time, most of us are in whispers with each other at this point for fun chats while we fight each other. So the comradarie is already there.

Seems the “show stopper” is what server would be the lucky one. Now I’ve only been on DR for 5 weeks, so my opinion is based purely on the server that we could rank up the quickest. With DR having over 200 points ahead of Kaineng, its the obvious choice. 200 might not sound like much, but when you figure in the fact that we average a point gain of less than 20, it can be a huge hurdle to cross. Those with “home” ties to the Kain/Ferg, i understand completely, as i went through that when i left HoD at #1 to go to JQ…then again when i met up with Phiz in PRO as i bounced my sons char around servers, eventually ending up in PRO and on DR.

But heck..we dont have to really pick a server you know..whats wrong with taking DR as far as we can go…then doing the same to Ferg and Kaineng! The rank itself isnt the fun part, its the climb itself that is the most fun.

We could be a force to be reckoned with!

Draygo.9473:

1 on 1 right now, ferg would probably lose. It would be a very even match by what I see ferg feilding but with SoS in play I think we would get too many points outside of US prime while being competative in US prime against ferg.

But its entirely irrelevent. The server that takes second place is the server that Devona’s decides should take second place.

The benifit of Ferg attacking DR is to keep DR in this tier. If they attacked kaineng, DR would be way ahead in point value and would be in more danger of actually slipping up a tier. (we want you to stay, BFF).

Also Chris, it goes both ways. Ferg constantly attacks us while we have SM instead of DR. Its fine. Its open war. most of the guilds dont go after you guys specifically.

Good points and observations, but I still disagree. Ferg can field some mean numbers with some darn good fighters. They may have a few more “non coverage” windows than Kaineng, but I believe those can, and have been, overcome if they set their mind to it. And I believe Chris’ NP guild could shut down SoS if it wanted. SoS is good in their mass of numbers when on the offensive, but even with numbers if u rush them they collapse and run. NP could take them pretty easy I think.

DR doesnt determine whose in 2nd as we’re constantly fighting a consistant 2 front fight….for 5 weeks now btw. Ferg/Kain start fighting occasionaly, but nothing like what DR is having to cope with.

Keep us in this tier? Wont happen, sorry bout it. Even if DR wanted to stay it wouldnt happen as the tier above us is putting a hammering on GoM. They’ll push GoM out and DR up without DR trying as long as DR can hold top points position.

Here some fun pics:

1: This is why you dont drink and game! (notice the white circles)(i was OWNIN that wall too dangit!)

2: Was only 5 of us at the camp, really Ferg! You need that many for lil ole us? We had just took out a Kain group of 6-7 when Ferg tried to backdoor us. This Ferg group wiped btw on their first attempt. But their 2nd attempt succeeded as was only 3 of us in camp when they camp back, but we managed to get 4-5 of em in downed state before they got us.

xcavars.5049:

LOL, dont flatter yourself. There is no alliance.

Below is the Ferg confirmation of an alliance =) Shame that it looks like Kaineng folks backdoored Ferg for points. Bad form there, least when DR allied with Ferg for a couple fo days, thats the week Ferg took 2nd btw, the majority of DR/Ferg folks honored the truce.

Chris.4527:

For Kain, the “united” thing is hilarious. You need to realize how you guys held SM.

Fergs were invading DR 24/7 all weekend long till Sunday, Saturday night is when our little “alliance” finally got screwed by SoS it seems. So we stopped invading DR, all of DR came to EB, you guys got wiped.

All you ended up doing was pissing off a lot of Ferguson with the bragging about how amazing you guys are doing, and invading us at the same time.

In summary without us flooding DR map, where are they going? Our respected maps and EB. Enjoy, I hope that “moral” boost lasts throughout the week. Next time, think before leaping for joy about how you guys are doing so amazing in first and figure out why you’re there to begin with instead of screwing with the only ones willing to help you.

If you ask me, from what Ive seen, the only reason Ferg isnt taking and holding 2nd place is because they’re focusing on DR. I believe they have the manpower and the skills to take Kaineng. They’ve already proved it once and that was before they got a couple of guild transfers.

I have it!! The solution to all 3 server problems.

Lets take all the top guilds that have the common goal of server rank progression, and move to ONE server!!!!

KAIN/WAR/iSPY/ENVY/NoQQ can push domination on reset thru sunday. PRO/GASM/RED/BTSY/WAR/iSPY can push domination through “primetime” on weekdays, and PRO/YARR/SoS can push domination late nights!

Oh man, we’d rise to #1 server!

Question is: what server do we all get on? I’d vote DR simply because its has the highest point tally at the moment and gaining points is pretty much suck!

Ok..now lets make it happen so we can rise up and put a stompin on some arses in tier 1!

We can reform into one big guild called Alpha n Omega [AnO]. When you see us its the beginning of your end! lawl..caaaaaaaaaaaaackle…weee to beer!

Sadly, my game time has been cut drastically down so I’ll not be doing hardly any more late night fighting. Might manage an hour or so before bed, but got awarded a new contract so gotta go make da $$$. (or wife will want to spend more time with me…GAH!)

Keep up the good fight DR and Kain/Ferg…dont relent, you’re both great servers with great players!

Draygo.9473:

I was kinda depressed last night as DR had the pop to push kaineng and ferg off EB, at the same time :/

We would kill 60 of them and 60 more would run back to fill the holes, not even giving us enough time to push out and take a supply camp. All the while I was noticing ferg was losing stuff slowly just as we were.

We didnt have the numbers at all. Had outmanned the entire time i was out in EB last night. And DR was using those numbers properly, never commiting the entire force to a push or attack. So when we forced a wipe we couldnt rally and retake an objective to relieve the pressure on our keep.

At least I got to teach a few people how to setup a proper meatgrinder and we got to feast on your corpses at a tower.

=( i missed it. Sorry to hear you got pushed off, but glad to hear you never gave up! Props to ya man! (or girl, or it, whichever applies)

Brimwood.7963:

Oh I’m not denying DR must surely have efficient small groups as well. I just don’t see a great deal of them…the zergs are indeed occupying a LOT of attention.
As for why our server numbers dwindle so much during the week…I expect it’s simply because a lot of people have day jobs and simply not as much time available as they do on the weekend.
SoS for example is a Taiwanese guild and working hours in Asia tend to be long (I should know, I work there myself). That’s why you’ll typically see the bulk of them for about 3-4 hours right about at this time of day on weekdays and sharply reduced number during other times of the day. This is enough time to cap a lot of stuff but sadly, not nearly enough to be able to hold it for extended periods of time whereas again, we’ve repeatedly captured and held Stonemist for 2 consecutive weekends now when everyone is on.
DR keeps winning these fights because they have (far) higher primetime numbers during the week than the other two servers. This can be easily deduced by the way the scores play out week after week. It’s an undeniable fact.
Not that DR is to ‘blame’ for that, you can’t blame a server for having more people on after all but it is rather annoying when people on DR claim their wins happen because of their “godly commanders” or “amazing fighting spirit” when this is simply not true.
If you truly had as much of them as you claim, with your numbers, you’d have escaped the last tier weeks ago.

Your argument makes no sense: in one statement you talk about how you “consistently held SM 2 weekends in a row when everyone is on..”, but you dont have large zergs…then you state " (DR)…had as much (commanders/fighting spirit) as claimed we’d moved up last week."

Mate, DR has consistently fount a 2:1 battle for going on 5 weeks now. And by that I mean Ferg BL has been predominantly Fergs with little to no Kain incursions. Kains BL has been both Kain and DR with little to no Ferg incursions. EB is a 3-way split depending on time zones. DR BL has been consistently attacked by both Kain and Ferg on a daily basis. Even this thread has confirmed an alliance with Kain/Ferg vs DR.

Now with that in mind…how you can consistently state the “overwhelming zergs of DR” is ludicrous. How about you add the zergs on Kain and the zergs on Ferg that are attacking DR at the same time (in lots of cases) and do the math. Does DR have a higher Wv3 population than either Kain or Ferg…maybe, but both combined…no. (i say “maybe” because i’ve seen as larger or larger zergs from both servers as Ive seen on DR, all around the clock)

Numbers and only numbers will not, cannot manage what DR has managed to do this past 4 weeks. We’ve taken the best 2 servers can throw at us, unified attacks at that sometimes, and still managed to pull out the win on reset. (last reset DR had more points that both Kain/Ferg combined)

Everyone talks about all these “massive guilds transfering to DR”, please post pics of these transfered guilds as I’d like to know them. I know of 2, one with like 10 members, and another with less than 20. One of which as since left DR. (30 new gamers on a server is not “game breaking”, im sorry if u believe it is)

DR’s teamwork, coordination, and increase in DR activity in Wv3 has led to where we are today. Give credit where credit is due please. And stop always downing a server/guild/player’s accomplishments with lame excuses as to why you/your server/your guild isnt #1.

Also, learn the rankings mechanics before you talk, DR requires 2 things to rank up: (1) DR to win in our tier, hopefully gaining more points than the #3 server ranked in the next tier and (2) the bottom ranked server in the tier above us needs to get shut out. Those 2 things have to happen on a regular basis for us to move up: ie, we have to have a higher point tally than the #3 server on the tier above us before we can move up a tier.

I find it funny how on the weekends when Kain/Ferg field massive numbers its all in the thread about skill/teamwork/coordination, etc. But during the week it turns into “DR only winning because of massive zergs.” On a recent reset DR shut both servers down the entire weekend, what was the excuse then?

Simply this: all 3 servers have zergs from small groups to large groups, all 3 servers have great players, good players, average players, and players that are recognized as guaranteed loot bags. All 3 servers “primetimes” may or may not differ, but all 3 each have a window where they pwn, whether its due to numbers or skill thats up to interpretation by the server and its opponents.

In the end the ONLY thing that matters is the final tally at reset and server progression for Wv3.

Elthuzar.9478:

I don’t personally do this but I also don’t see how this is an exploit. It is using your professions ability to an advantage, no different from a mesmer portalling 30 people in a surprise attack.

Apples and oranges mate….2 totally different things. Mez has a 20s portal that is useless if your team sweeps and cleans out the mezs before leaving. They dont sweep and enemy portals inside, thats your fault, not the mez. The portal is nowhere near OP, as it has a very very very simple negate to it — sweep for mesmers. (i’ll concur with the portaling in of folks also has the rendering bug issue involved which needs fixing, but the portal itself is minor and easily avoided)

Thieves perma stealth on the other hand…its lame. The “just AoE the area” is bout lame as the “area” is a 6k-8k diameter circle, short of a large AoE zerging it, there’s near nothing u can do until the thieve makes a mistake.

I vote to simply make the cap circle no larger than any of the other cap circles on the maps. Circle the supervisor like at all the other points.

Week #5…lol. here we go again. I vote all 3 of us merge into one server and move up!

Awesome fight at Fergs BL tonight. DR had 6 PRO and 3-4 randoms. We had few pieces of siege. But we held out for lil over 4 hours at a Ferg zerg that was easily 30+. Was some close calls with supplies..but we held and broke them over and over. So many loot bags, had to go vender 4 times. Was great fight and DR folks props for the heck of a darn awesome defense we all put up. In the end Ferg’s numbers managed to get the Bay, but not before we laid waist to countless Fergs, 10 trebs and 8 catas. We tried to hold longer, but just couldnt handle the 4-5:1 odds coming at us.

Fun fight Ferg. Now with those numbers, how come u guys arent in 2nd? Based on when I play and what i see from both Kain/Ferg…i dont see a reason why Ferg cant take 2nd like last week and hold it.

Didnt see much Kain, an upgrade or 2 ran through.

Sorry Chris, your NP zerg showed up to take the Bay, we had to lay waste to em until there were no more NP tags in the sea of red below the walls. =)

Props to both servers and everyone involved. Was huge fun for all i hope.

Allied Shade.8409:

Feeling sad when I am reading all this finger pointing (not speaking about all posts, some are sportive!)

But I must agree on some facts, some commanders in PRO are feeling way better then others, even ignoring whispers and map calls when I am asking for them, cause off this I don’t even bother talking to certain commanders from PRO, sadly. I will search contact with Dred about it.

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Sir Superior
Devona’s Rest
RED

Id hope the “ignore” youre getting is not intentional. If it is i appologize on behalf of PRO. if its me doing it i swear its not on purpose. I get flooded with whispers, mapchat requests, and teamspeak. I try to respond to all but i afmit i do miss more than a few, specially when the fights heated. I do try to back scroll and check, but just cant answer em all. I do try to mapchat that im saturated though so hopefully those i dont reply to understand and know im not ignoring on purpose.

Willowisp.6490:

Glad the forums have turned around too. My bloodlust for PRO has subsided too (along with all my tombstone rams) as new enemies have earned my ire for attacking my homeland (GOLD and KAIN). I also realize the huge zergs will ebb and flow, I just hope the numbers on Ferguson’s crossing don’t explode again while i’m away for the month. I now see PRO as a good opportunity for Devona’s players of all tiers to learn and grow . I also enjoy making a B-line for whoever that PRO charr with the Phasor rifle is. When he’s around I know that PRO’s A-team is typically around too and I know i’m in for a fun fight lol.

Ferguson’s Crossing—-
The Spirit of Life – ENVY – 80 Asuran Guardian
Wispy Woods – ENVY -80 Sylvari Mesmer

Thats typically the same 6-8 PRO guys on late. We all like to go take someones Hills and defend. Weve crushed some pretty fat zergs trying to get it back. Let us have 20 mins alone at Hills and u can darn well bet we can hold a nonupraded keep almost indefinatly. Lol

That charr ur talkin bout is one of our commanders, Elvis Kleen. Theres also 2-3 other PRO coms in that little group. U should hear our teamspeak when wE’re together, it prob funniest ever. “someone come with me and rush them…..OH SHEET theres so many!”. And the now PRO teamspeak classic…“gdmt, fkn teeves!”. Man we are drinking and laughin at ourselves as well as having a blast with you. Most times we all are in whispers to kain/ferg players too. Lol

Etna.1634:

Some Devonians enlighten me pls (maybe Dredknight since he seems to be on top of things). Do the average Devona player know the buttons on the siege equipment better than their classes?

Made me laugh…lol

@ aimac
No prob mate, my post wasnt hate to you either. Just info bout how hectic it can get for a commander. Id appreciate it if you could PM me the PRO person u had issue with so i can address it.

Gavello.2813:

Silver/White swords on Towers/Supply Camps/Keeps indicate that it is under current attack by a force smaller than 5, this can be either NPC’s or Players. Trebuchets can effect this too.

Orange Swords, Indicate a larger scale battle of more than 5. These can happen anywhere on the map.

Long story short, investigate every sword battle.

True, but needs bit of tweaking…

white swords indicate an attack on a gate or npcs at a camp/tower/etc. You can attack the walls with a group of 5 or less and get no white swords (ninja!)

ErlendR.6107:

PRO … numbers … (whistle)

Please keep posts on target with thread. Posts like this end up locking the thread. If you have issues with anyone or any guild…post in PMs instead. Thanks

To all: Lets not fall back to all the hate postings…keep posts on topic. Positive/negative feedback and always ensure to give props to players/guilds that stand out regardless of the server they’re on!

aimac.9046:

Im in DR, and the few PRO members I’ve come in contact with have been nothing but snobby. Guys, just because you have a tag over your name, it doesn’t make you any better than anybody else. I’ve entered dungeons with people that are level 1, and when they screw up I’ll never call them out on it. Calling players out isn’t going to achieve anything and will only split people up. If there are new players, teach them don’t demand of them. I’d love to give you the name of the snobby member Dred, but I’m going to choose not to.
And no, I’m not a new player. Level 80 with exotics for a while now, just thought I’d want to speak up for the new players.

Let me describe a day in the life of a Commander in GW2 on a map:
It all starts with no commander on the field, you icon up, take assessment of whats going on around the map, then start pulling people to you to start a strategic push. Now you got folks following you, spamming you with whispers, and others telling you what to do in mapchat. You start giving solid sound strat in mapchat on what you need done and how many needs to go do it. All the while you’re telling folks to “stop chasing and stop rushing the bottlenecks and dying in groups” Nobody listens. They keep doing the same thing over and over and over and…. All the while this is going on you, the commander, is getting spammed whispers on “wtf u doing, take charge, command!, etc”, mapchat is flooded with 10 different folks calling out 10 different strats, and the zerg is now in full zerg mode and wont listen. Commander tells folks to defend the camp, set up and defend the siege, crack outter and inner walls first…then push in…but the zerg breaks and runs soon as the outter is down, gets owned, camp and siege is busted while they run back from spawn.

Whose the fail here? The commander who is trying to keep things organized and flowing in a winning direction, or the soloist players out there repeat dying to the same things and who refuse to listen and work as a team, but then blame they guy with the icon when things go wrong.

Its very easy to blame one person when the fact is the majority is the ones jacking up everything. After a while of watching easy strats get crushed to kitten who wont listen, its very easy for a commander or anyone else trying to lead to get riled up. Last nite i went off on DR folks when it took over 2 hours to cap the Bay that should have been capped in less than an hour. Why’d it take so long? because the kitten wouldnt listen, kept feeding Kaineng loot bags, then QQn to me in whispers and mapchat. Once i went off in mapchat, laid out the strat for prob the 5th-6th time in mapchat…they FINALLY listened and we took the Bay in less than 20 mins.

So mate, before you judge…please ensure you got both sides of the story. It’s easy to take a snapshot and make an opinion. But you’ll find that that snapshot isnt the whole picture and the opinion is 90% of the time incorrect.

To those Kain’s defending the Bay. DARN NICE FIGHT! and some awesome defense there. Hope you all got loads of lewt bags from the zerglings on DR (if u got a precursor i vote u mail it to me!) It was nice to finally have a good fight vs players instead of watching the zerg groups run from NPC node to NPC node. I havent icon’d up much for near a week now, as I’m not one to chase NPC camps with a zerg, i prefer fighting players. But last night was awesome fun. You lost the Bay in the end, but you won the night in my opinion on teamwork and dedication! Keep up the fight and props to you all!

Read all the posts and it’s obvious….zergs ensure an almost impossible chance to actually kill someone as too easy for them to revive a downed player. Short of a bigger zerg to push the enemy away from the downed player, you’ve got no chance.

Downed players have way too much health, deal way too much damage. Its funny cuz some players do more damage “downed” than alive….rofl (lame!)

Spiking the downed player needs to be instant, not channeled. You can literally be killed by the “downed” player channeling the spike!

Revive should not heal faster than someone can dps the downed player.

As you can “combat” rez a fully dead player as well as stack rez’ers for a 5s complete rez…revive has no place in Wv3. You can still get a rez from teamates at a slow to super face rate. Downed state reviving just adds another advantage to the zerg.

Remove downed state from Wv3, make spiking them instant cast, reduce damage/health of a downed player, reduce revive heals so that it cant outheal dps, or require revive to be a group chained ability, ie: takes 5 players to revive one player.

Downed state damage output combined with revive equates to promoting zerg mentality vs skill. Zerg has it’s place and numbers always will overcome skill if the numbers are large enough, that being said why give yet another advantage to numbers? If the zerg can steamroll, they can stop and combat rez in 10s or less depending on number of folks rezing. They dont need a 1 person 5s revive ability. The smaller group already has a huge disadvantage, they dont need more….remove it!

agree, its lame in Wv3 when large numbers can keep smaller groups from spiking. Remove it from Wv3…u die, learn better survival skills and not depend on a zerg to keep you alive.

Either remove it, or make it so you cant rally anyone if you’re in combat. Folks can still get a rez in combat…jst the 3s rally rez is lame as heck.

Willowisp.6490:

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Personally, I only have animosity towards bro’ish guilds like PRO because i find their name to be highly ironic. But then again, zerg guilds too have a place i guess.

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Ferguson’s Crossing—-
The Spirit of Life – ENVY / Moon – 80 Asuran Guardian
Wispy Woods – ENVY / Moon -80 Sylvari Mesmer

Just browsing the forums and reading the fun. Came across this and it made me roll. Isnt it ironic that you think a guild is ironic for its name, yet you dont even know what the guild name is? made me laugh…thanks

Anyways….WOW…lotta hate back in the forums. And this time its not all aimed at DR and/or PRO. Guess the fight for 2nd place has heated up to the point folks are getting emotional.

We went several days with some good positive posts in the forums, now it’s dropping back into the state where a moderator ended up locking the thread.

How bout everyone just accept this as fact:
- All servers have zergs
- All servers have some small skirmisher groups
- All servers have some great players
- All servers got some not so great players
- Gonna always be a 1st /2nd /3rd place in each tier….someones gonna be happy, someone aint
- Gonna always be “fair weather gamers” on all servers…and lots of those “jump ship to the winning team” gamers

I’ve met some great 1v1 gamers in Wv3, lot ive won, some i havent. Pretty sure there’s no single “im the best” in the game. Just too many players that are too skilled. Yeah you may win today, but eventually you will lose. How bout just accept the fact that some players are good solo, some are better in groups in support roles. It all boils down to how YOU want to play YOUR account. Nobody should bash anyone for that.

Can we clean up the forums please, stop the hate, and start posting some kudos and props to those players/battles that stand out. Not cry over a loss, or whine about a zerg, or upset cuz someone lost a 1v1, or 1v2, or 1v50. Remember: you chose to fight, could have just as easily run away.

This has got to be the worst possible concept in Wv3 ever thought up. It gives a HUGE advantage to large groups vs smaller groups. Smaller groups or solo players cant spike or finish them off because if they try, they get zerg rolled.

Please remove it completely from Wv3 please. If you die, you need to die all the way. You can still get a rez from teamates, but you cant get back up into the fight in 3s.

Remove it please! Or make it so you cant rally anyone if you’re in combat.

Great night in WvW for a little group of PRO and 2-3 randoms. We rolled over to Ferg, ninja’d Hills and took supply camps and got ready for the fight we knew was coming. Its what we was there for. Quite a few skirmishes over camps but eventually Ferg pulled a zerg together and threw it at the Hills. By this time, we’d had siege in place and a few supplies for emergency repairs. We managed to push the zergs off 3 times. One notable moment was someone in chat going “Incoming golems, 3 of em!” We manned the catapults and blasted those 3 golems to shreds before they got anywhere near the gate. After that crushing defeat….the enemy faded for so long we got bored and went to roaming the map. I so love Ferg folks! You guys can field some impressive numbers late night. I think the only thing that held us up was the fact that a lot of Fergs we ran into were upgraded 80s. But that didnt stop you cuz you took as much ground as you gave. (props to you!) At one point a Kaineng zerg (NoQQ) landed on the map, it broke like waves on rocks in skirmishes of equal number. Looked to be a karma train as they took quick nodes then moved on to another map. Although they did stick around and zerg gank anyone caught out in the open. (i got a golem planted on me…rofl)

Action died down for couple hours to nothing more than a few of us that was still online and a few Fergs. We’d skirmish across the map taking/giving, but overall having fun. I was in whisper chats with several Fergs the whole time. Was great!

Eventually our numbers dwindled to a small handful and NP got online. We didnt have enough folks to man the siege we’d set up at the Hills and repair the gates. Took a bit but eventually they broke through and took the Hills back. Sorry we didnt offer more resistance, but the best pieces of siege we’d set up despawned (arg, fix this Anet!) and we just didnt have enough to put up a decent defense. All in all, was a great night in Wv3.

Pics of the ninja of Hills…took it from fully fortified to ours without getting caught. (lol)

Ferg’s YARR guild…you 2 little rascals sneak ninjaing towers! Now you stop that and play nice darnit. (lol) great job you 2

Fun for all, got some loot bags, gave up a few. Props to all the Fergs/Kain that was in Fergs BL.

revcornelius.6519:

Drednyte.7601:

Thadren Calder.1397:

Tamboure.1207:

To the SoS group camping the EB Jumping Puzzle:

Why?

My guess would be the same reason that I’ve seen PRO do it.

Sigh..here we go again. Just include KAIN/WAR/iSPY/SoS/CNB/NoQQ/GASM/RED/WvW/FWAE/PvK….heck every other guild on the servers.

Idea: stop camping it by all servers. It’s already a pain if you know what your doing and seemingly impossible if you dont. Lets call a truce and let that be the one neutral areas on the maps, eh?

Not trying to start yet more BS, but we don’t camp puzzles. In fact we rarely even do them. The few times we did, we killed the campers and left.

Wasnt pointing fingers, was just trying to state that every server does the same thing along side most guilds on those servers. I vote to stop camping them myself.

Anet, can you PLEASE remove the timers on autodespawn for siege gear. It’s so annoying to drop quite a bit of gold to siege up something. then move on to the next and start the same, just to have all your hard work/time/gold go poof in 30 mins or less. As there is already a limit to how much siege can be placed in any one area, theres no need to have autodespawn timers. Except for flame rams, those are fine to autodespawn.

The only time i can see despawning siege is if a server loses that particular node. If you wont change this, then can you at least put a 3-4hour timer on them instead of less than 30.

This last build, less than 20 mins and 4 catas/6 arrow carts/treb/3 ballista all despawned! This is totally unacceptable! Please fix

Thadren Calder.1397:

Tamboure.1207:

To the SoS group camping the EB Jumping Puzzle:

Why?

My guess would be the same reason that I’ve seen PRO do it.

Sigh..here we go again. Just include KAIN/WAR/iSPY/SoS/CNB/NoQQ/GASM/RED/WvW/FWAE/PvK….heck every other guild on the servers.

Idea: stop camping it by all servers. It’s already a pain if you know what your doing and seemingly impossible if you dont. Lets call a truce and let that be the one neutral areas on the maps, eh?