Guild Wars 2

Having fun tonight, but NSP got me laughing hard. Even numbers on their BL at the north supply camp and they spam running into citidel. Then when its down to 5 of us, they come rushing out with bout 15ish or so. Still downed/spiked half of em with our lil group..but the respawns kept coming back! Way to go to get that one camp….rofl.

Props to AR/NSP on their attempts to take NSP BL Hills from us DR folks. At one point was only 4 PRO there defending and we managed to push back a 20-25ish zerg twice. Then several more attempts with 5-15ish were also pushed off. Was a VERY nice attempt to sneak a Guild Golem up to the north gate, i almost missed its hide spot jst happened to pan the camera at the right spot, lol. Think we broke 8-10 catas at the ninja wall spot, lol.

One thing i’ll give props to DR folks..we sure know how to siege up something and man those sieges….rofl.

Again, great fights while i was online. Didnt see too many fights that was DR heavy in population. Most times it was DR outmanned but we managed some nice teamwork to pull off some really nice wins.

Dunno who but one of you NSP asura mesmers…lol. TS kept getting blown up about all the stacks of confusion you kept putting on one person…was funny as heck.

Again…great fight tonight and every day/night since reset. Both of you deserve respect and kudos for your efforts and fighting skills. It’s now 5am EST Fri…one question – Whose gonna take 2nd place this week? Its been a close fight between you 2 all week. I got bets going, dont make me lose gold darnit!

Couple of things.
1 – PRO…stay out of the forums if you plan on posting the “we’re better than you” mindset. PRO is better than some just as some are better than PRO. We have winning strats that help progress the server in rankings, which is what PRO is focused at doing. PRO does have small teams that roam the maps, but searching for fights isnt their main priority, we send them out with specific objectives to accomplish that enhances DR server as a whole in gaining or maintaining point spread. (ie: server progression)

2 – Small teams in Wv3 do have their place, as long as there is server progression behind it. If there are teams out looking to just have small fights..tPvP is the place for that because you accomplish nothing for your server, in fact you hinder it. Zergs have their place, again as long as the zerg commander has a specific objective(s) to accomplish, not just run the map PvDooring and loosing everything 30 mins later.

3 – Yea i said 2 but i wanna post one more! just wanted to give props to both NSP and AR for this week of fighting for DR. 10 weeks in T8 grew quite boring toward the end as the other 2 servers had given up, for the most part, and unfortunately got hit with transfers. T7 isnt even worth mentioning as our competition had previously been wiped clean by transfers…much respect for those that stayed on those servers though! T6 has been a blast! NSP/AR have been giving us some great fights. Although it was a sweep by DR points wise, it was in no way a clean sweep on the battlefield vs you guys. You have some awesome numbers and skill to go along with it. I’ve enjoyed this week and hope next week will produce the same quality fights. Matchups like this tend to make me worry less about the points/progression and more on the actual fights, which is awesome fun. Will things change on reset/after the holidays? Maybe, 2 ways to consider the holiday crowd, away from home and cant play or more population cuz they’re at home. Dunno really, have to wait until holidays are over. But either way and regardless of who wins in the upcoming week(s), props to all of you for making this bracket one of fun and enjoyment.

See you all in the battlefield….

Was waiting for this post. PRO was in NO way involved in what happened, we were perfectly content laying siege and even though your numbers kept rolling us we were having loads of fun. Props to both sides.

When the Bay capped we all were like WTHECK! We asked questions, found out the culprit and took appropriate action. In protest of what they did PRO left the your borderland. PRO in no way supports blatant cheating/hacking to gain Wv3 advantages like that. On behalf of DR I appologize and hope this doesnt cause AR folks to reflect badly on DR folks as the crimes of a few doesnt represent the masses that just want to have honest fun game play.

Nuzt.7894:

@max I could careless about having a Sig, the Ppl I play with know me and that’s all that really matters. As for the AR people sieging from whatever spot, if its an exploit then they also are pathetic but that doesn’t make exploiting because your outnumbered OK to do, you sound like a child using this as a justification. Also just really think about what your saying, its OK to exploit if your outnumbered …. so if a server is outnumbered exploiting keeps is OK ? Same idea different story, anyone who exploits for any reason regardless of server is a waste of space.

Again..you’re tossing out your own interpretation of what you ASSUME is meant. You should really break down that word ASSUME before you comment more on this subject. You’re obviously rear end hurt over something that happened to you by either DR, PRO, or someone/some other guild. How bout you just get over it and get back to having fun in Wv3.

It was a conversation between me and Deesytm, we both had our say, we both “walked” away with i hope a lil more respect for each other. (least i did for him/her) All others just bystanders..thanks and have a GREAAAAAAAAAT Wv3 day.

jkctmc.8754:

As to the above PRO players saying AR are just bad players, and that one person can kill 10, I’m up for any one vs one with any of you. I’m the Thief, Ranger, and occassionally Warrior that has killed plenty of you the last few days in the SoS guild.

Woah mate…if you’re refering to me in this I never once said AR were bad players. If you’re unsure what i mean please ask and not interpret, that can/will lead to misunderstanding. If I thought AR were bad players I’d have said it. I think AR rocks as well as NSP. Been some great fights out there. No map has been truly ‘secure’ as everyone flips everything lol.

All i said in my post to the one fella flaming me was that I’d been happy to leave that spot if the 10 folks camping me would have left. Run out and die just to get out…well thats absurd dontcha think? 90% of my time i spent standing there doing nothing hoping they’d leave so i’d drop combat to WP. They didnt and kept spamming me so few times I ran out downed/spiked a few. They eventually caught on their time was wasted and left…then I WP’d.

Anyway…fun fight AR/NSP and props to everyone for staying in there and doing what we all do best…givin em heck!

Nuzt.7894:

Drednyte.7601:

DeeSystm.1256:

Yeah ur a good ele and a few of you held that that tower quite well but…..
You had no where to go? Die with honor then. Sure your a good ele, and i’m personally not afraid to take on w/e class whenever, no matter what the letters in the brackets after their name are.
I also dunno what exactly they were doing as i had jus ran 3/4 of the way around the map listening them whine about you tbh. Also you can’t touch someone in that exploit so its impossible not to let your cd’s reset.
Cool tip btw.

Well i did go out when it was 1 v 4-5 of you, but after i put em in downed state the rest of the masses showed up. Not much “honor” in that fight so i ran back to that spot figuring eventually you’d leave and I’d WP out. Instead there was an easy 10 stayed to “camp” me. lol. Still showed them the errors of their ways and managed to get 5-6 loot bags before they finally left and I WP’d out and regrouped with ma server mates.

I agree, kinda lame for me to stand in that spot. Bout as lame as all those camping me, and even lame for AR to build siege on the immune area north of WH by your citidel spawn and sit up there on the cliff with the mass zergs ranging WH when we have it. But meh…was all in good fun and I wasnt QQn or complaining.

Been having great fights with AR and NSP. From what I’ve seen both servers got some great Wv3 guilds. Props to you all and lets keep up the fun fights.

You use exploits because your out numbered and fighting an unfair fight in WvW ….
Your a disgrace, simple as that. If you want even numbers maybe you should stay out of WvW. The worst part is you openly admit to it and have seemed to justify it in your own mind that its ok to do.

Just shows the mentality of DR considering according to your sig your a commander for what has been claimed to be the largest WvW guild on your server. Here’s a clue, if your outnumbered die with some dignity like everyone else in WvW does. If you want even or close to even fights everytime you play then perhaps you should go to SPvP/TPvP.

Waste of a player/commander imo.

WoW..mate..gonna guess you’ve been rear end hurt by DR a few times to go off like that. For all your talk I noticed you havent bothered to mention the fact that when DR takes WH AR sets up siege and lines the north immune area with a 20+ man zerg on the cliffs north of WH just outside your citidel spawn. Then you camp the immune area ranging WH gate while protecting the siege from immune areas. But meh, you still didnt get WH anytime i was there so its all good fun i guess.

Anyways, i was at least open and honest to admit it was me. And if you’re so "die with honor, why do you like to run to NPCs and spawn immune areas so much. By your thinking you should stand and fight until you either win or die, right? At that supply camp spot i was outmanned by quite a bit and I’d been happy to just WP out soon as I dropped combat, but the 10ish AR folks who stood there camping me wouldnt let me drop combat. Im not one to give up a free loot bag, and neither and i one to run from a fight, hence teaching bout 6 of them a lesson on camping. If i could have got out I would have but with that many circling me nowhere to go. And dying to get out isnt my play style. I opted for patience, eventually i “won” that matchup cuz they left, I WP’d out to rejoin my fellow PRO. Oh, and while those 10ish players were camping me, my team was out capping more AR stuff…so who do you think had better strats? =)

have a nice day mate!

DeeSystm.1256:

True all that man, fair enough, I don’t like that crap and everyone got me all worked up >.<
GG takin us out of EB this morning btw lol Seen some PROs in there.

Darn i missed it! Well hope you gave em heck before you got pushed out.

Kardiamond.6952:

@Oozo

The thing I think DR stand out of the much is the FOTM players. The PRO guild, each time I fight them, they are like 90% made of DD Thief/Shatter Mesmer/Guardian/DDElem. Seems like your roster I mostly made of the FOTM class/build, and man is it annoying lol.

Can’t I fight some necros? engis?

It the fights time I come to this conclusion, as I usually see every class represented.

Am I just unlucky?

You have to be hugely unlucky when you run up against PRO groups. We have all of 3 80 guardians that actually play in Wv3 i think. Not sure what the mix up is when I’m offline, but when im online i think theres 3-4 ele’s and 3-4 thieves. There are some mesmers out there but with the steady mesmer nerfs from Anet not many want to play an open field fighter or support roles. We have a pretty even class spread in Wv3, other than short on necros and guardians. Some of our warriors use hammers so maybe that might be the “guardians” your seeing so much.

DeeSystm.1256:

Yeah ur a good ele and a few of you held that that tower quite well but…..
You had no where to go? Die with honor then. Sure your a good ele, and i’m personally not afraid to take on w/e class whenever, no matter what the letters in the brackets after their name are.
I also dunno what exactly they were doing as i had jus ran 3/4 of the way around the map listening them whine about you tbh. Also you can’t touch someone in that exploit so its impossible not to let your cd’s reset.
Cool tip btw.

Well i did go out when it was 1 v 4-5 of you, but after i put em in downed state the rest of the masses showed up. Not much “honor” in that fight so i ran back to that spot figuring eventually you’d leave and I’d WP out. Instead there was an easy 10 stayed to “camp” me. lol. Still showed them the errors of their ways and managed to get 5-6 loot bags before they finally left and I WP’d out and regrouped with ma server mates.

I agree, kinda lame for me to stand in that spot. Bout as lame as all those camping me, and even lame for AR to build siege on the immune area north of WH by your citidel spawn and sit up there on the cliff with the mass zergs ranging WH when we have it. But meh…was all in good fun and I wasnt QQn or complaining.

Been having great fights with AR and NSP. From what I’ve seen both servers got some great Wv3 guilds. Props to you all and lets keep up the fun fights.

DeeSystm.1256:

Devona’s (Protocol [PRO]) pls tell this ele to stop wasting our time, hes cheating, exploiting a bug and you guys have a good enough lead to not cheat.

Thnx and happy gaming =]

That would have been me. ROFL. nowhere to go and the 20+ of you vs 1 of me was a bit overkill. I mean, im already being told you guys are scared of PRO and I think im not too bad on my ele..but darnit man..jst ONE of us and u want to try to zerg me with that many folks? I did have fun later on when a small group of DR folks were hitting the Bay. Loved how i got 22 loot bags for just a few minutes of playtime. =)

Oh, that pic looks like when id jst logged on and ran over the hill from spawn. I stopped there briefly due to getting couple of whispers i answered. I admit i did go back after i charged into your lil zerg at the camp after my chats…dunno why you all were hiding in middle of NPCs though. Just one of me. Fun fights though. Oh..tell ur pals if their half dead, dont stand there and let an ele cooldowns reset. Good way to become a loot bag. =)

TIP: glass cannons in Wv3 = Lewt Bag Build

Fun fight just now in AR BL up at Woodhaven and Garrison. We traded the Bay to each other lol. We’d had the Garrison too but the, sigh, zerg wouldnt listen and prep WH for the zerg attack that i knew was coming so it was a pretty easy take there. Surprised it took that big AR zerg that long to actually take WH though. Easy 3-4:1 odds rofl.

I was the PRO commander giving u heck up there…but after the zerg failed to follow strats and I had PRO members off doing something else. Had nothing to work with but fails so i fell back and let you have the north. Hopefully one day DR folks will learn the zerg mentality is fail mentality, but until then I’ll stick to coordinating PRO strats and ignore the randoms until they step it up in teamwork.

PS: few guilds/players on DR rock..those are not included in this chat btw. (you know who you are)

Breakout event = worst concept ever, well downed state ranks up there too, for Wv3.

If a server needs “help” then it’s pretty obvious they’re in the wrong bracket. Take enough losses and they’ll drop down to where they’ll have competitive matches. Isnt that what the ranking system is supposed to be doing? Only recommendation I’d make is use a win/loss system over a points system as its too easy to stack points and takes WAY too long for servers to move up/down with points. Took DR 10 weeks of straight wins to finally move up to T7…because the servers above them had so many built up points. kinda lame.

BO events also allow a zerg to trigger it then run PvDoor and cap with ease. If you can field 10+ folks to trigger the event, proper planning and strat and those same 10 can take an objective…so why the need to hide behind a massively OP’d NPC? If you cant…you’re in the wrong bracket! I’ve seen upwards of 30 folks running with the NPC…lame lame laaaaaame!

Oh…if we wanted to PvE..we’d be in an instance. We’re in Wv3 because we want to fight players…hint hint. We dont want to PvE in Wv3…so remove the lame BO event!

Just tossing out a little recruiting message. DR’s an up and coming little hot mess of trouble in Wv3. We’ve got a darn nice NA primetime group but only a small handfulf of late night folks. But those few late night are some of the roughest, toughest fights you ever gonna see!

But like all servers that want to rank up…we need some late night coverage to be competitive. With that thought…I’d like any EU guild(s) that might be interested in probably the best Wv3 fights your gonna be in to just transfer on over! Were currently T6 with our eyes on T5 and so far the numbers are looking good for a T5 advancement in a couple of weeks.

I know there are EU servers out there that have coverage issues during NA primetime, so if any of you are interested please PM me here or transfer for a week and see what you think! I can guarantee you wont be dissatisfied with the action we have in this bracket.

Yay..AR back on their BL. Course pretty much all of DR is offline now…arg!! WTB a night crew!

Lol…have fun all, cya tomorrow sometime!

I’m a sad panda. On AR BL with ma lil group of PRO having a blast defending Bay against an easy 2:1 odds zerg from AR. Bay all broken with no supplies. Then all of a sudden…no more AR zerg to fight. Thought the fun was over and all of a sudden ole NS zerg hits DR BL with 8 golems. They trash through Hills, then Bay before PRO could rally up what few we have late night along side a handful of other DR gamers. NS managed to plow through the outter gate at Garrison, then in literally less than 2—3 minutes all 8 golems were dead, the big zerg all wiped. One and then NS bounces to EB. =(

AR i can understand leaving, it was very late and most of em id imagine stayed up way later than norm and PRO and the few other gamers with us were giving them a heck of a hard time on their map. i was ready to log maself, but it was just too fun to leave.

NS…wha? Try to PvDoor late night for points, your zerg get owned and golems thrashed…and you bail the map after one little fight Jump to EB and PvDoor there? Aw come on, I was told you all were much better than that!

All in good fun i guess. AR – great fights tonight, NS dunno cuz only really engaged you once on DR BL at garrison and you all dropped pretty darn quick.

Morningstar.6208:

Well WTH… In middle of fight in EB I got DCed after a 13 hour WvW with this message.

you potty mouth! Oh…we jst lost all of EB…thanks!

Nuzt.7894:

ok wtf, DR population is rediculous. So NSP I say yourselves and us AR take it to DR in full force and worry about each other next week.

I do not speak for all of AR but I’m sure theres many that would agree.

LOL..sad, very sad. DR doesnt even have queue times anywhere at anytime..and u QQn for help already at the start of reset?

Fun fights so far though =)
NS — thats PRO at Hills btw….we love those fights.

Something those favoring keeping downed state in Wv3 seem to be missing….you can rez in combat! So why the need for downed state?
I mean, i understand the broad concept of it:
You’re in a fight and get beat but not killed so you’re laid out, the last fight before death. Ok gotcha. But um…imho if your downed, cant move, almost dead…in RL that would pretty much mean you’re for all intent and purposes completely defenseless. So why isnt that reflected in downed state?

Remove it from Wv3 or make it so you can instant spike someone, downed state attacks are 50% nerfed from players normal attacks.

@those who flamed my post about SF hiding behind event champion
1. They were not outmanned, it was pretty even teams (late night btw)
2. They had the advantage of spawn being right behind them while we had to run the map
3. They didnt have outmanned buff

Now dont get me wrong, i told DR folks before we moved up in tier we’d prob move to T6 on the first reset as I already knew the situation with SF and HoD. (sorry for you all but kudos to not giving up on your server!)

The point i trying to make is with even numbers SF kept waiting for the champion to take a tower they SHOULD have been able to take with relative ease. Its not hard to take the north supply camp..get supplies…WP to spawn..run down and gank the tower.

What ive seen so far…SF and HoD have plenty of folks but you all need to get out of the glass cannon builds. When 2 ele’s can charge in and drop 2 AoEs and 6-8 of u are in downed state….need to rethink your gear. Its great hitting those big numbers, but useless if your not alive to spike! Reduced dmg for greater survivability will get you much farther. Also, id say recruit some more melee classes. Most ranged classes go for glass cannon build so soon as melee close with them they start dropping like flies which leaves you with nothing but a full retreat or respawn. Melee = meatshield speedbumps =)

Sylosi.6503:

roostapro.9827:

I don’t get why people cry about this……………

Ele downed state sucks, yet im not complaining and i don’t have a problem with downed state.

People need to realize that its part of the game.

Get used to it or go L2P.

also, competition time:

how many threads can you link crying about the downed state?

People “cry” about it, because it simply exacerbates the design flaws that already exist in WvW, i.e – zerging, the downstate simply favours the zerg (larger group) even more.

Incidentally ele has one of the best down states in the game, the mist form thing is ridiculous.

The only time an ele ever got away from me was if they were close enough to a tower/keep to mistform through the portal. Short of that, its a joke ability as it doesnt do anything but give u another 3 secs of “life”.

Think lot of you missed the original point. Downed state is great for PvE, but it’s a huge advantage for numbers in Wv3 as smaller groups have no chance to spike anyone short of sacrificing themselves. That coupled with some classes do more damaged in downed state than fighting, thieves for one, so much so they even tell their team to NOT rally them right off the bat. They run in get downed, start spamming dmg. Is there a need for downed state in Wv3? No, as everyone can combat rez. One person rallying a downed person can “heal” them faster than 4-5 players can dps the downed person. Thats just a bit OPd im thinking.

Some ideas:
1. Great for PvE, not so much for Wv3 (remove it from Wv3!)
2. Make spike instant instead of channeled to compensate for zergs advantage in numbers
3. Reduce health/toughness for downed players. Shouldnt have to “kill” a player twice
4. Make dmg output in downed state on par with “live” state
5. Remove rallying from npcs and npcs rallying players

Just some thoughts, myself I think its a great concept but terrible for players vs players environment

It’s a shame that SF who isnt outmanned has to wait and spawn the NPC champion to take towers. It’s even numbers out there late night fellas. .

Go Kain go! You got a nasty lil gap in points to overcome but keep it up and you’ll be T7 in no time. I just hope the other 2 servers dont get transfers in and slow the progress. You all deserve a move up in tier rankings if for nothing else than dedication to your server. Also hope you dont end up in another 10 week battle with the same servers. Looks like DR will be knocking GoM back down to T7 on reset so you guys move up you may have a server with roughly your numbers so that should be fun.

Valenna Tiefling.5806:

Junkhaus.4301:

That’s cool you are from HoD. Your posts are similar to the excuses from a few ppl in our previous matchup in t8 for the last 8 weeks. I see many people in DR with individual skills, you may not see them through your perspective, but they are there and they are many. Usually they are the ones doing the right thing in WvW, the reason why we broke away from t8 starting from weeks back.

Listen. I know you guys are feeling pretty hot breaking out of T8, but lets lay down some facts here. Those of us at Henge who have been here the entire time (which is almost all of us, since really, who transfers to Henge) have seen every play in the book on the way down. We get stomped by a different overwhelming zerg every week. We get new tactics practiced and tested on us because, really, if it’ll work on anyone it’ll work on Henge right?

So you all at DR are best to listen up when we say that we know what the rest of the WvW bracket looks like. The message here is that you should be prepared to be sent right back down here like SF did. You remind us of them a few weeks ago, feel free to check that match-up’s score and how they’ve done since. It’s OK, we’ll wait a few weeks, we’ve waited months already, and it’s delicious every time.

I’m from HoD originally, back when we held the coveted #1 spot. =) and yea, i can remember those 2-3 hour long supply camp fights, lol. I’ve been telling them we’ve got a lot to change, skills to learn, teamwork to solidify before we’re even remotely ready for something higher than midtier. but talk is just that talk…it will take meeting a server that has what we dont to get the majority to listen. Until then, gonna just have fun and wait. Eventually we’ll clash with the right, or wrong, server, and DR will see a lot of the “fair weather” fighters jump ship. That’s the point that DR will start to get better. (this was soooo obvious on Kaineng when WAR, iSpy, NoQQ, LARP all jumped ship. the server as a whole got a lot better in WvW)

Dhampyr.2104:

As a Kaineng guy who “lurks” on this thread to see how DR is doing (grats guys, glad to see you’re doing well), I’d have to say there’s a bunch of hating going both ways – much like it was when you guys were T8 fellas. Bottom line, T8 may not be considered “leet”, but dang, it sure is fun. ET/FC put up some pretty fun fights, and that’s what it’s all about as far as I’m concerned.

It was really nice when DR was here too – basically, I could walk out any gate and find some DR guys to fight (along with FC too lol). I kill them, they kill me, and we all have a great time. Plus, when you’re fighting an overwhelming zerg, you tend to get tons of loot bags before you get smoked – just shoot in any direction and you’re bound to kill a bunch. Silver lining. ;-)

Edit: C’mon back down and say hello again, Dred. You guys were fun. :-)

Hiyas Dhamp! Posts like this one is kewl, its friendly hiyas, gluck to yas post. Not the lame follow-me trolls from above.

Gluck on winning, i’m watching u!

lets see, i join WvW to fight players not npcs and what do i find? Im fighting npcs now more than ever. I understand the concept of the breakout events, but implementation failed miserably. Champion npc that can spam knockdown, pull you from the walls, one shot pretty much everyone, self heals, is tuffer than pretty much most PvE npcs, unlimited siege equip, unlimited supplies, bubble shield from ranged attacks…um arg darn!

Remove pulling from walls, spam stuns, and one shot. And while your at it…if the “enemy” no longer has an outmanned buff, the champ npc needs to despawn as the “odds” are pretty much even at that point. I’ve watched 30+ “enemies” gather around and let the champ do all the dirty work while they protected him from roughly 25-35 players, ie: even teams.

My understanding was the event trigged on YOUR borderlands when youve lost everything, basically. How is it that the SF champion was able to spawn/get ported/something from SF to DR borderlands along with their 30 man zerg to start attacking there?

It’s broken, dont fix it just remove it. WvW is about servers fighting servers, not fighting NPCs. There’s a place for that, its called PvE. If a server doesnt have the population to field a successful WvW matchup…they can recruit, transfer, etc. Or maybe Anet can “force” new players to start on low pop servers? Dunno, but the event is utter failure. Besides, killing one doesnt even drop decent lewt!!!!

I know how to stop the Kain/Ferg trolls here though. I could move PRO back to ET for a week and really upset them. Put them back to PvDooring again.

Zizanzi.4678:

“illusions of grandeur” seems to be the order of the day in this thread. Was hoping for some good WvWvW reading but was sadly disappointed. Can we get some good WvWvW talk going?

Stylii Elementalist
(NoQQ)

Yea Ziz..its a shame the failboats from Kain/Ferg have trolled into this thread. Dont know why they wont stick to their tier, but no, they gotta drop into here and start their “we failed as a server because…” trolling. Funniest part is on their tier thread they started spamming “glad DR is gone so forum drama is over” and yet they jump here and start it up, AGAIN.

Just require thief adrenaline to build from combat, not passive. That way they cant stealth, wait for it to build to max then spam all their high burst, stealth, repeat. U want to engage in combat for high burst, require them to be IN combat to be able to do it. Kinda like all the other classes have to do with similar mechanics.

Hey all, glad to see the fights in T8 are going awesome. Some funny info for you. Seems 5 folks with fake PRO tags are in an mid tier using hacks to jump into champs rooms and capping nodes. Based on what one person told me I’m pretty sure I know at least 2 of them that use to be on Kaineng then recently moved. All 5 have been FRAP’d and reported though. lol.

Anyways wanna hear some great news? PRO IS COMING BACK TO T8!! We’re moving monday to ET. Cant wait for the Kain/Ferg fights again!

Envy/Thor — nice lil fight tonight on ur BL. think it was a 5-6 DR favor by 1 upgrade. Wasnt much going on tonight so to speak but was nice to have few rounds of fighting skilled players. Gluck on reset!

Kain/Ferg – gluck on reset to all of you…bring the pain to the DR replacement! Treat em like the redheaded step child that wants ur inheritance!

Lyan.6804:

hi, gl to u all, i was wondering if any PRO member transfered server to Abbadon Mouth European server? I thought guild tags are unique and theres been some problems in Gandara, so i wonder if leader or any officer could pm me. Ty in advance and GL to the rest of ur match.

No PRO are anywhere cept for DR. If i see them on other servers its auto gkick. As for guild tags, nah their not “unique” u can create a guild and tag it whatever you want for the most part. Tags are “locked”, be nice if they were tho.

NightCircus.2014:

Drednyte.7601:

Themanbat.3206:

Chris.4527:

Have fun with the free wipe tonight guys, we won’t be defending. Enjoy T7, more than likely T6 with your numbers, haha.

Bumped for all the people who are going to ignore it…

Np = Fergs version of SoS, ie: soon as they hit any type of opposition they crumble and run off to PvDoor or map hop to PvDoor. I say this from experience as watching them die repeatedly at Fergs Hills when defended by 9-10 DR folks, was almost picture perfect duplicate of SoS on Kains BL.

Oh, by opposition i dont mean a 10:1 Np ration…anytime theres even close balance in players, Np takes to the road!

Dear Drednyte, I seriously wonder how you count sometimes. It amuses me how you—on numerous occasions—claim that there where only 9-10 of you when there were at least 30. You do realize that there are enough people on DR to take hills, bay and the garrison on our map if you wished, because your people seem to breed. I do not understand where your 10:1 ratio is coming from, please drop the counts if can’t refrain from exaggerating. Getting kinda old. zzz

After posts like this i started taking snapshots and posting those “imaginary numbers” you all are so fond of saying. If DR had more than what Im stating by all means, rebut with a pic please. Just make sure its a pic of the fight im talking about and not one from someplace else on the map as i reference where i am and not the map in general.

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Drednyte.7601:

Draygo.9473:

Can I dance party with you tomorrow Dred?

Ill bring my guild, you bring yours, and we will have a danceoff.

Only if you let me dance nekked! well, can i hold a dagger?

I need to know if/when this is actually happening so I can plan to be on :0 It’s somehow extremely important to me.

ok..ur scarin me!

insanemaniac.2456:

Drednyte.7601:

Gratz DR! Just some pics that is NOT meant to poke at either Kain or Ferg…jst a prop to DR after 10 weeks of fighting.

Numbers by itself cannot do this…..

lol @ this guy thinkin his server moving up is anything but a wintersday present…

…a present for ferg and kain.

well, you couldnt beat DR so maybe you’ll have a better luck with each other.

NightCircus.2014:

Don’t worry, you’re poking fun at no one. Would just like to point out though that letting DR wipe the map today was within the consent of the major guilds fighting in Ferg.

We could’ve held the map if we chose to. But doing that will slow DR in racking points, thus another week of DR/Kain/FC holding hands, and we wouldn’t want that now, do we?

Ferg – if you could have held it you would have, stop making excuses. You had the numbers in there last night but your skirmish strats wont work unless you get to pick the time and place of the fights. It always fails vs coordinated movements, ie: DR map control of Ferg. And if the “major” guilds on Ferg “agreed” to let DR have it, well bro there was sure a heck of a lot of the same guild tags ive been seeing repeatedly in Wv3 still in the fight. Didnt see a change in Ferg defenses last night vs any other night.

I so love how both Ferg/Kain has found an amazing way to rationalize their loss for 10 weeks straight. It boiled down to “we let DR win”. Well let me tell ya what I think:
- if Ferg could have won – it would have
- if Kain could have won – it would have
- 9 weeks ago in the first matchup for domination Kain stood a solid chance to take/hold the coveted #1 position, but couldnt come together as a team
- 4 weeks ago Ferg could have dominated 2nd place, again no teamwork as a server

Both of you can post your grumpy threads on coulda/woulda/shoulda/if i wanna…but the truth is you both were beat. And not recently, you were both beat 9 weeks ago when it all started, ie: before the populations were out of balance. (agree that Ferg did have a slight disadvantage, but not so much it couldnt have been overcome)

All through the thread both servers have stated you’re not letting DR move up…well what happened there? Kain had an awesome shot at #2 which would have led to a tier move shortly after DR…but instead of widening the gap with Ferg, they chose instead to pretty much focus all fights toward DR. Ferg, on getting those mass transfers in that boosted your population to more than Kain, again could have widened the gap, took 2nd and held it. Instead, focused on DR and small group skirmishes in lieu of server progression. You blame DR for everything, and try to puff up small group fighting into some kind of Wv3 domination. Well maties, check the score over the last 10 weeks: domination is 10 weeks of winning, anything other than a week win equates to “primetime” gaming at it’s best, ie: great in the moment but meaningless in the bigger picture.

So stop the hate. You both lost, deal with it. Tons of folks on DR have been giving almost continual props to both of you, yet the majority of post from you have been negative towards DR. Stop the whining and QQnd and excuse making…fix it and move up, or enjoy the bottom tier and watch as you continue to lose more and more gamers. (or pray you get upper tier guild transfers as you obviously cant move up on your own)

DR – AWESOME JOB and well deserved regardless of what Ferg/Kain thinks as its just jealousy typing
Kain – I’m still rooting for you! Even with the loss of some major guilds in Wv3 you’ve still fielded some darn good fights. I’d almost say your Wv3 stepped up after the loss of the guilds in my opinion. (SoS — help Kaineng!)
Ferg – Chris/Np nice work on helping build framework for Ferg progressing. Hope it continues and does a mirror image of DR on moving upward in tier.

To all the gamers who gave it their best, props and respect to you all. To all those that continuously posted excuses…well, made me laugh at your pitifulness.

nice hack AGAIN by CNB to get inside Hills…and no, gates/walls were not down anywhere. And no..there was no mesmer inside for the past several hours lol. cant wait for accnt bans on it.

btw its a lil female human mesmer using a staff, upgraded 80. she likes to teleport on the ramp near the vista. got FRAPS running on that spot now =)

Nice fight at Kains garrison just now. Took that big ole zerg quite a while to take it. Shame you all werent on bout 3 hours earlier when we had numbers to match…lol. Was fun anyways. Well looks like ur moving to Hills, so we few will continue to defend til the end!

Ive noticed, with the loss of WAR, iSpy, NoQQ, LARP…..kaineng has gotten more coordinated with teamwork. nice.

Gratz DR! Just some pics that is NOT meant to poke at either Kain or Ferg…jst a prop to DR after 10 weeks of fighting.

Numbers by itself cannot do this…..

Draygo.9473:

Can I dance party with you tomorrow Dred?

Ill bring my guild, you bring yours, and we will have a danceoff.

Only if you let me dance nekked! well, can i hold a dagger?

Draygo.9473:

Congradulations DR. You got serious and now you are going to move up!

I wish you all best of luck, especially RED and SoCo, will miss you guys.

I propose we throw a going away dance party tomorrow

I fully expect you to lay the law down on whoever drops on reset! You guys are GREAT! Hopefully we can all meet up again in another tier and rehash some old fights.

Peace, joy, happiness, and bald goats w/jar vasaline

Themanbat.3206:

Chris.4527:

Have fun with the free wipe tonight guys, we won’t be defending. Enjoy T7, more than likely T6 with your numbers, haha.

Bumped for all the people who are going to ignore it…

Np = Fergs version of SoS, ie: soon as they hit any type of opposition they crumble and run off to PvDoor or map hop to PvDoor. I say this from experience as watching them die repeatedly at Fergs Hills when defended by 9-10 DR folks, was almost picture perfect duplicate of SoS on Kains BL.

Oh, by opposition i dont mean a 10:1 Np ration…anytime theres even close balance in players, Np takes to the road!

Mosharn.8357:

Il be honest. DR sucks when they arnt zerging. Even then they suck sometimes cus pugs do random crap. We gona get kitten in tier up because the pugs are idiots.

Thats a bit of a biased opinion Vakat. You transfered here yesterday and dunno why you expected everyone to automatically want to fall in line with you. I know youre a great player, but you need to realize. Its the end of this tier and everyone knows it. Hence everyone is just out goofin now. Should we still be putting up a solid fight and defending and such? Yea…but after almost 10 weeks of straight wins, DR has earned the right to just goof. You judged an entire server based on a few hours of being on it at the end of a near 10 week fight with the same 2 servers…..bit harsh on judgement i think.

@ Kith on your posts:
“I’ll be the first to admit that I was one of the several that gave PRO a hard time when they came to DR because of how you guys hopped so many servers (the guild that is) and because of the reputations that were presented about PRO from other servers opinions.”
-PRO moved from GoM to DR….dunno who you talked to but man you got misled in a bad way. One server move and that was to literally the worst ranked server in the game at the time. (note: we moved down, not UP)

“For the most part you’ve done good things down on Devona’s Rest, but to passively claim that your guild is the reason that servers have been moving up while your present is pretentious at best.”
- re-read my posts, you’ll see that i’ve been sayign DR and not PRO. I’ve always said DR other than one comment that folks read the first part of it and not the last then blew it out of proportion.

Dun know ya, nuttin bout ya, nev seen ya. Just think you consistently posting in a thread that doesnt even concern you and stating all kinds of “DR shoulda/coulda/woulda” is bit lame. I mean, just because you transfered UP, doesnt mean you have the know all to Wv3 because you’re on a higher tier. If you truly want to be active down here with rest of us…transfer back. =)

peace out and may all ur wet dreams come true!

Skarloc.2569:

Just hit me up in game and I’ll go through the process with you.

Glad to see your a professional at it…shame it came too late.

@Ferg/Kain

Whoever takes DR’s spot in T8 I almost feel sorry for them. These past 9 weeks all 3 of us have been giving each other some darn good fights. I’ve seen all 3 servers grow in teamwork/coordination/skill. Ton more defensive playing when required than 9 weeks back. The other server may be dropping down, but its not dropping into a bracket of “losers with no skills”. They’re going to get a very nasty surprise when they hit the field against you 2. If they’re thinking they were tier-whatever and stepping down to the bottom is going to equate to them owning the tier, oh man. I fully expect to see whichever server it is to hit dead last the first week. And i’d imagine a ton of QQs in the forums from them.

Hats off to all of your skills and guilds working together. We’ve had our forum fights and Wv3 fights….but I’m proud to say of all the tiers ive been in, all the fights ive bled in…fighting both of you have been by far the best of them all. Upper tiers may have more people, better communication/teamwork,, more hardcore Wv3rs. But none have the heart, dedication, and pride shown down here in T8.

PS: i still say if we combined the best of all 3 servers onto one…we’d be a force to be feared!

Skarloc.2569:

PRO is all aboard the trashcan express tonight. I’m going to miss you guys when you move up. Most of you guys are probably going to want to replace your auto-attack key on your keyboard. I can imagine it’s seen better days.

Know a good place i can buy a new “siege” key? mines darn near worn down to the electrical connection!

ktith.6197:

If DR wanted to move up, you all would have this past week. Most people know that DR has been playing the numbers (the guys that know what to do to stay in the same place more or less). It’s obvious and anyone that denies it (that knows how to play them) is just bringing DR down into that place that nobody like to be in/at.

Just saying….

Anyways, HAI, how is everyone that I left behind weeks ago?

Mate, didnt u jump ship and leave your server to run upwards in tier? As you didnt have the dedication to help push your server upwards, your comments on this thread are pretty much worthless, in regards to what any of us 3 servers are or are not doing. Moving upwards in tiers doesnt equate to knowledgeable on strats, tactics, and/or server progression as you obviously defined them all as “lets just transfer upwards”.

Please keep your posts confined to your own tier bracket as that’s where you chose to call “home” now. Anyone you feel you miss, PM them.

Oh, before you comment: I was on HoD ranked #1 when the game came out, my guild moved to downward to JQ and we helped push it to #1. Then I moved way down to GoM, joined another guild because I met a few that played my time and were awesome fun to game with…and we moved DOWN again to try to push upward the bottom ranked server in the game. Well, thanks to a LOT of awesome gamers on DR originally when we got here we’ve managed to push it up 2 ranks and about to be a 3rd. We may or may not move up to T7 this week…but either way, we’re doing a fine job on a server that was literally the bottom of the heap.

PS: Merry Xmas =)

Its that trash rabbit outside of the supply camp north of the hills in Ferg’s BL. you cant hit him and he does a 1000 hop attack on you!