Guild Wars 2

What the hell does prenerf matter for? We’re talking here and now, not patches ago which don’t even matter now anyways. Thanks OP for running the test and i tend to agree for the most part. In zergs, i think MF set is nice since it can only help, altho solo i still wear it regardless.

Also i think Sunrise has no footprint where as Twilight does, both being greatswords. Hell he happy it at least has some effect. Meteorlogicus doesn’t really do squat. Face it, if it isn’t a staff or greatsword, it got screwed.

The whole fractal level requirement deal is worse than gating content in raiding MMOs. They really need to rethink the whole idea. Of course i gave up on fractals at level 7 and went back to doing old dungeons for cash grind for my legendary…..

Well hell, i want a free precursor of my choice!! Actually i want 1 precursor for each alt i got since they all had chances at the chest too!! J/k, i couldn’t resist

Problem with that “average” is the people who got under that would be getting shorted so in essence it would have been better if they DC’ed as well. I’m not griping about it but like others have said, i wouldn’t expect anything more than the 20 slot box and the trinket. Possibly if you’re lucky, maybe an exotic and rare but again, i see it easier for them just to mail people a box and trinket.

15-30g worth of items? I didn’t even get that much and i didnt DC. Unless you talking about Anet will give you the 20 slot bag and the trinket.

@ morphemass
Yeah thats what i’ve been doing too but i still need10 more clovers so unfortunately i’ve been having to use alts to do that with. I’ll be so happy when i get the clovers done. Seems those are the endless gold vaccuum.

Problem is there is no really viable way to farm the T6 mats so people have to buy em. I think that’s a major gripe, at least from me. I mean trying to farm vials of powerful blood off karkas is a pain. If i get lucky, i’ll get maybe 3-5 off of em an hour. It’s much more productive to farm the cash than it is to try and farm the mats. This in effect raises the TP prices which in turn creates threads like this.

Ah, ugh thats like 500 mithril ore for 1g at 20c each. kitten that’s alot of farming hehe. I found running dungeons does pretty good(26s per run) but i still can’t figure out how to do 12g an hour

My question is how the hell do you make 25-50g in 2-4 hours? Are you selling all the mats you get as drops? I mean doesn’t that defeat the purpose of farming since you prolly need the T6 mats anyways?

Well the devs did say that bot all of the legendaries are finished so they might add more.

Yeah i broke down and sold the bloods and bought my precursor. Figured it will be easy enough to refarm blood at my own leisure vs trying to chase the ever low price of a precursor. Buying a few bloods here and there for a gold or 2 is much easier to do imo than dropping 50g for scepter precursor plus now i got my precursor out of the way

You have a very good point but this is just a game, not a life changing financial decision and i would be taking all responses with a grain of salt. Im more looking for what people have noticed the past couple days as far as T6 mat drops. ive noticed in the new zone, ive gotten like 4 or 5 powerful bloods in about 30 mins. Thats why im wondering if it would be wise to do what im asking. Also ive noticed bloods seem to have dropped about 6s each from 30s to around 22-24s. Im thinking the rush for Rodgorts jacked the price on bloods and now that the hype is over, they will drop again.

Ok, my dilemma is ive got about 140 powerful bloods. Question is at this stage should i sell the bloods while the price is still kinda high and use the cash to pick up my precursor(storm)? Im thinking this cause i figure T6 mats will become more common and cheaper faster than a precursor will. What do you all think? Should i liquidate some mats to lock in a precursor now or just keep farming mats and get a precursor last?

Of course its gonna get easier to get “epic” stuff as the game goes on. Thats cause as more and more people reach cap, farm stuff to sell, finish using what they need so sell surplus, more and more will appear on the TP and with more and more competition. The perk to having something “first” in an MMO is bragging rights, generally at a higher cost. But as i learned from years of MMOs, in the end it doesnt matter who had the item first, it matter how much that item cost you and how many xtra items you were able to aquire for the same price I personally expect it to get even easier to get a “first generation” legendary. Of course when they impliment the second generation of legendaries, im sure those will be a pain to get for the first 6 months or so as well.

Ploppy.2917:

Two things:

- Engineers are supposed to use kits to compensate for their perceived shortcomings. You’re not using any kits.

- Warriors are supposed to be a high-DPS, high survivability class.Engineers are supposed to be a high flexibility class with more than two or three strengths.

This is the problem here. Warriors have no downside. They got the highest dps and a very high survivability. Why roll anything else other than a warrior? Anet needs to balance em with either high dps build with low survivability or vis versa, not both.

In essence it is harder to get legendaries now. You check the prices on mats recently? Since the bots got banned, mats have and rare weapons(to break down to ecto) have close to doubled in price. I havn’t checked lodestones in a few days but i bet they are gonna double if they havn’t already.

They need to just remove the need for Badges of Honor for legendaries. I mean really, you need to PVP for a weapon which has no PVP stats or bonuses….and i agree, those people who camp people in jump puzzles are pretty sad. Don’t try to pretend to be some PVP god by doing it cause out of 3 people who tried to gank me while i did puzzles, i killed 2 of em and the 4rd i died cause i fell off the little log at the top for the top half of the key and took a ton of fall dmg. Nothing screams “lol” like ganking a guy who tries to gank you haha. And fyi, i suck at PVP so it even adds to the slap in the face to the gankers.

Bu they need to just remove the badges for legendaries or like others have said, up the drop rate from killing players so the wanna be PVP god gankers have to really do PVP and not try to prey on guys who are just trying to do something else. No other weapon or skin requires this.

I think crafting has already more or less slipped into irrelevance. I mean other than bags, jewelry and foods or gifts for legendaries, i don’t think there is much else really worth it. Altho crafting is a nice way to quick XP.

Wish i would have gotten my legendary done when all the mats were cheap and farmers were rampant and competing for my gold. Now that bots have been cleaned out, you can already see mat prices going up. Take rare items, they were like 10-14s each pre bot ban, now they are 20-30s. All i see is alot less mats being posted on the TB and higher prices for what is being posted. So basically, if you made your legendary a month ago, cost ya like 500g ish. Now will prolly cost close to double that.

And let’s not even start with the people who used “loopholes” to get mats fast and free and precursor galore which they sold for quick gold to buy mats to make their own legendary….

People who think they won’t make "endgame’ gear easier to get as the game ages are delusional. Every MMO i’ve played since EQ1 in ’98 have made stuff easier as it went. A prime example, took a full guild of 60+ “raiders” to get flagged for Plane of Time, after a couple years, they were handing out keys to that place for easy loot. I imagine legendaries will be the same way as well as new “cooler” legendaries coming out anyways in the future.

Not bad but i wish it had “more”. I mean personally i like Immobulus better. That red glow seems to be static as in there is no trail to it. And i wish the handle part had more detail to it other than ending in a plain pointy stick. Regardless tho, grats on it. It does take work to get it

Well honestly, i dont see how infusion deal will affect PVP since it says mobs will apply the agony debuff/dmg and says nothing about players applying it. As for the dungeon, if you dont like it, you don’t have to do it, no one is forcing you. They are adding a new PVP map as well. Fixing bugs and stuff would be nice but i’m definately not gonna scoff at new content. People who have quit already are probably people who would quit no matter what, whether it be 1 complaint or another. I play a necro which is arguably one of the most broken/pigeonholed classes out there yet i still love it and play him pretty much exclusive(i do have a 80 ranger and 36 guard). Broken skills etc do suck but if you like the game overall, then you find ways to work around it and enjoy the game regardless.

As for the new gear, if i’m not mistaken, they said it will be between exotic and legendary so i imagine that we’re talking 2-5 points more in stats over exotics now which imo are not a game breaker in PVP anyways.

Just make respective lodestones buyable with dungeon tokens from respective dungeons ie charged lodestones bought with COE dungeon tokens. Problem fixed.

Jrunyon.3012:

Lol at all the complainers talking about how they worked SO hard for their exotics. What, did it take you all of 2 hours to farm up the 5 gold they cost? Currently theres nothing to work towards besides a legendary and I for one welcome any added content for those of us that dont necessarily want a legendary at the moment.

Amen brother! I for one am glad they are adding more stuff. As a person who doesn’t really play alts, all i do is farm dungeons pretty much for my 4th set of dungeon gear. Hell i’ve managed to get my guard who is level 36 a full set of dungeon gear as well as weapons too which i never really play anyways. All this new stuff and new gear and dungeon mechanics has me excited as well as the idea of “scavenger hunt” style to get mats for legendaries. As long as it doesn’t end up camping X mob for 18 hours like some of the mobs in EQ1 for epic weapons :P

As for “gating” content, can’t really say i’m thrilled there but if they made it say easier to do those encounters with infusions, i have no problem. Like say boss X will 2 shot someone without infusions and with infusions, you take 10% less dmg up to a cap would be nice. Then everyone can do the content but those who put in the work for infusion gear would have a buffer. I know it sounds backwards(as in new people should have a buffer) but this way, those who put the work in to gear up can run the dungeon faster and achieve higher levels in the dungeon thus getting better rewards but no one is left out period.

Obsidian shards are acct bound as well.

Well if GW2 follows the same models as about 99% of other MMOs, there will be more and more elaborate weapons/skins coming out as the game goes on. So one day legendaries will be the “old news” and a second rate particle weapon. Of course i still want one since i need to fill that darn blank spot on my character log in screen :P

No i play for fun too but i do like to goals to shoot for and stuff to do other than just mindless grinding. Legendaries give me that. Sure after i get a legendary, i might roll an alt but till then i focus on 1 toon. Been like that in all MMOs i’ve played the past 10+ years.

As for do you do get anything you want in life with hard work? I believe yes. If you set your mind to it, there is nothing you can’t do within reason of course. And comparing something like a 6 digit career or being president isn’t even in the same league as some pixel skin in a game. I mean really if i wanted a RNG to determine my advancement in a game, i’d play a number of korean MMOs like L2, Tera or Aion to name 3(which i did play all 3 for a very long time). And as you know if you played any of those, the RNG more or less killed those games unless you were someone with no life and had hundreds of hours to burn since to most people, time is money. Now i don’t mean gaming is a job but most people want to see some kind of return on an investment and if you spend 100 hours farming mats to throw in the mystic forge and you get absolutely nothing back(no precursor), will you really want to spend another 100 hours doing the same thing?

As for the "useless " exotics and rares, the mystic forge only contributes a very small market imo. Bigger market is breaking em down for globs of ecto which are used for all exotic jewelry and to make legendaries themselves.

Again, the whole prestige to a legendary is meh imo. Like i said before, if you are doing the legendary purely so you can say “look at me!!”, then you need to get out more often because no one really cares what you got in a game. I mean, hell if that’s what you’re after, you can pretty much buy a legendary with real life cash if you got a good job which im no condoning. I’m doing the legendary purely because i like the look and im OCD and want to fill in that missing spot on the character sheet plus like i said, it is something to shoot for and gives me something to work on when i log in and nothing is happening.

As for ragequitting over a legendary, i agree it’s alittle over the top. I mean after all it is only a skin and personally i think most of em are meh looking to begin with. But if they are made pretty much unattainable to 80% of the population unless you buy gold, play from moms basement 18 hours a day or get extremely lucky with the MF, i think people will eventually get bored. I mean the mats to make a legendary alone without the precursor are a nice little timesink but with a light at the end of the tunnel vs the precursor which is anyones guess, could get it in 1 try or could get it in 5000 tries. As for buying it, i dont see em coming down, i mean people amass more gold as the days go on, farmers will amass it faster, they will buy up all the low priced ones and then just relist em higher and higher. The price to list items is a 1 time cost and there is no expiration on listings. I mean i read on these forums somewhere that gold sellers are even starting to sell precursors for real life cash haha.

Anyways, enough rambling. I mean personally i think all this is really moot since if you’ve played MMOs as long as i have, you know that the “epic” or “ubah” loot is always made alot easier to get as time goes on. Example, EQ1 plane of time. Used to need to do all the progression which took months with a top shelf guild and then SOE ended up opening it up to everyone after a couple years. So worst case, legendaries will prolly be a dime a dozen in 6-8 months :p

Zetoshi.5803:

I don’t understand what the fuss is about.

Legendary

It’s self explanatory. You want something Legendary but you talk about wasting all your gold. If it’s all such a waste, let it go and spend it on something you feel is worth it.

Though obviously you all do think it is worth it or you wouldn’t be throwing your gold into it.

Either way – this topic isn’t any different from the usual QQ every mmorpg receives.

Why do you all think they aren’t making any official statements here? Because they don’t care. Because they shouldn’t care. If they answer your pleas here, you’ll find something else to collectively complain about. Wishing on a shooting star that they will give in.

You want something shiney, you’re not getting something shiney, you go to your parents and cry until they buy you something shiney.
That isn’t the way to go. Honestly.
Let the Legendary item have its worth.

Don’t bring it down to “yet another pretty thing” everyone has within weeks of starting the game. Why do you want everything to be common? Shouldn’t there be things so rare that owning them allows you to stand out?

Meh. My two cents.

I think you’re missing the point. It’s not that the legendary is hard to get or takes time, it’s the fact that the precursor has absolutely nothing to do with “hard work”. It’s based purely on the luck of a RNG. I have no problem with it taking 2 or 3 or 4 months to get a legendary but i do have a problem with 1 guy putting in 1000 rares in the MF and getting nothing and the next guy putting in 4 rares and getting one. Take out the RNG factor in the precursors and make it about “work” and not a freakin roulette wheel called the mystic forge. And yes, a legendary is not something you NEED but after you have done 100% map, done all the dungeons and paths, maxed out crafting and don’t really play alts, it would be nice to have another goal to work to that you know you can actually get. Map completion isnt random, dungeons aren’t random, crafting isn’t random, why are the legendaries random?

And about a legendary being unique and people needing one to validate them being unique, get a life. Nothing about a legendary screams “im a unique snowflake”. All of it can be done solo as long as you live in moms basement and grind 18 hours a day to buy mats or farm karma/honor badges. Unique was getting a weapon or armor in other MMOs that took 24-40 people or in the case of a certain MMO from about 10 years ago, 80 man raids, all working together over months to finish raiding dungeons.

Like i’ve said before and i’ll say again, make precursors acct bound and put in a recipe to make em that takes awhile to get the mats. The guy with the idea of 4 eoxtic token weapons from 4 dungeons is a pretty good idea. It will take awhile to amass that but you know there is an end in sight and an hour put into it is an hour gained. This will make em attainable to everyone. Just because its called “legendary” doesn’t mean that everyone shouldn’t be able to get one eventually.

Sinking a 100g tho into the MF and not getting the precursor in this current state really isnt much tho but i do feel ya. Now are the precursors worth 300-500g? Hell no but that’s the price the people “controlling” them are charging. Personally i believe the only people who can afford that kind of cash atm are gold farmers or people who live in moms basement and play 18 hours a day. So then you got those people buying the “cheap” ones and then just relisting em for a way overpriced amount. You guys get how this works i’m assuming.

Anyways like i said, make the precursors acct bound and a recipe and 90% of the arguments will stop except of course the price gougers who are trying to sell em…

I’m game for Arah as well. Necro with full exotic gear and jewelry. Shoot a tell to Gormesh if interested in another.

The problem with “grinding the cash for it” for a precursor is by the time you grind out say 300g for said precursor, it will be 500g. If you noticed from when the game went live, precursors were like 60g. Now they are 300-500g. And thats in a matter of like what, 2 months. I too thought of trying to grind cash for a staff but after thinking of what i just typed above, its gonna be futile.

I agree and think Anet needs to just make precursors acct bound and give em a fixed recipe for the mystic forge with a fairly high amount of mats so its still obtainable by the average joe but not so fast that everyone has one. Say something like 500 of X mats and 500 of Y mats. This way, when you devote say 2 hours to obtaining mats, you know its going to something guaranteed instead of “hey look, i spent 4 days farming mats to make 24 exotics and dumped all in the mystics forge and got absolutely nothing.”

@dibrom….Prec/toughness/cond dmg armor does exist in PVE. Its the TA EXP Nightmare set bought with tokens from dungeon runs.