Guild Wars 2

Yeah, and they are the best bunkers too..Seriously im out of here.

ronpierce.2760:

And just so you know, you’re incorrect. That isn’t why its so high. It’s because no one used it when it healed half as much over time, because both the passive and the “use” wasn’t enough healing. You’d be correct if the passive WAS the heal, but it isn’t. The heal is the on use, and instead of buffing the use to a good place like they should have done, the buffed the passive portion way too high so people would use it, and left the active being completely useless. If it healed for 200 Hps, but on use healed for 7k for instance, people would still use it. It’d slow down the rate that you lose health but still have an active worth using. Granted 7k would be too high for a 16’second cd, but you get the idea. They took an easy fix to make the heal attractive, now delusional people think its an interesting heal/design.

Actually i been using it when it was healing for 200/s and been doing fine. In fact i started to using it day 2 right after launch when i unlocked. And i know ppl that also been using it back then. Thats what u guys asking for is to change a complete gameplay of hs. We can as well delete signet and add another burst heal bc who care right?

Ghostextechnica.3270:

Um Warriors have the best dps, the best defensive moves, the most mobility, the best res…

Anet either had to buff all other classes, or nerf warriors.

Would you rather be slightly nerfed but still be the best at most things, or would you rather all other classes get massively buffed and get one-shot by new buffed skills?

Guard, ele has better dps than warrior, thats just 2 examples.

Most mobility? Theif has highter mobility ingame in one weapon set while warrior has to carry 2 sets tog et close.

The best defensive moved? Yeah cool stances on long cd’s compared to teleports, blinds and such with cd’s shorter than my …

Best res? I hope u dont speaking about downed state or else i will take a moment of silence.

Try harder

I dont know if power necro is made with minions in mind..My life blast does about 3k in spvp (always crit btw, thx to trait) and my aa from dagger hits hard too. Also where that plenty of blocks comes from? I know olny 2 – shield stance and riposte, both cannot be used under cc. Also hs will stay here for good, don’t try fix something that inst broken, hs has little highter hp/s cause its not a burst heal.

Why u wont complain about how useless signet of rage passive is? Ah right bc it sux, so its okay to keep it this way.

^ At same time u comparing dark pact to pin down and asking for a nerf ignoring everything else, thx for advice but keep it for u.

As for surge vs hs, a hs won’t save ur butt while being bursted down compared to surge. If the fight last shorter than 30sec actually surge has highter hp/s than hs. For some reason i still see warriors using surge instead of hs and doing fine.

bobomb.5209:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Healing signet is fine as it is now for passive. If u want to improve active i suggest to take a look at mesmer signet, and make our active reset signet cd’s.

I thank you for your opinion but I ask why do you think it’s fine? It works, sure, but we don’t need something that you NEVER use. You put Healing Signet down and forget about it. Mesmers are not the topic of this thread so I ask you to refrain from mentioning them. I would like to see more dynamic gameplay and Healing Signet does not cut it.

Well for active we got adrenaline surge, mending, defiant stance, pick one if u dont like hs, does anyone force ya to pick it? Why u want to make something active that been a passive skill since launch? As for mesmer u also can say its not worth for them to active signet bc they have highter hp/s in passive than active mode.

Healing signet is fine as it is now for passive. If u want to improve active i suggest to take a look at mesmer signet, and make our active reset signet cd’s.

Josh Davis.6015:

I think Skullcrack is a good place now. Ideally, all of our high impact skills should allow for counter-play via a clearly telegraphed attack animation. It’s something we’re constantly thinking about when we look at existing skills, and doubly so when we brainstorm new ones.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Skullcrack-needs-adjustment/first#post3355755

Josh Davis.6015:

I think Skullcrack is a good place now. Ideally, all of our high impact skills should allow for counter-play via a clearly telegraphed attack animation. It’s something we’re constantly thinking about when we look at existing skills, and doubly so when we brainstorm new ones.

So far warrior is the olny one class that has telegraphed attacks and that abilities getting nerfed.

While i agree that stronger abilities should have a telegraph, its time to add it to other classes as well otherwise were at disadvantage with the hurr hurr earthshakers, evis, final thrusts, selfrooting 3.5 sec hundren blades, killshot (lol seriously at ks+hb ones) as they are really easy to dodge and so on while other classes has insta cast abilities that can be used even when stunned.

Also the nerf was done without any compensation. Mace chain sux. Counterblow sux, pommel bash sux. A slow weapon without a real damage, gap closers or even a single cripple, skull crack was everything that was going for mace and with the latest patch that weapon got destroyed and over few weeks everyone will forget about it just like we forgot about existence of offhand axe.

Ppl forgot that rifle warrior is not needed in a zerk. So what if u will shoot down one guy when theres 40+ more waiting for the free bag out of u. I personally keep running to backlines to see that awesome 4k aa crits from axe and cleaning ppl in 2sec, and over that 2 seconds i actually have done much more than a rifle warrior. Do a favor for ur server and dont take spot for some lol sniping bc “i like big numbers” as u act like u got something..small in pants and trying to make it up for it by 20k killshot in some squishy guy

Rifle is a single target as it is mean for a boss fights in pve and dueling/roaming in pvp, but the thing is it doesnt work the way it meant to be. Why do i feel like a freekill using gs/rifle and why everytime ill get a underwater fight i feel like a op kitten with spear/harpoon? Answer is obvious.

^Honestly for the casttime it has, it should be a iWin button, automatically getting opponent to downed state no matter what. Its really kitten me off when i land it to see something like 7k crit or even worse..a 3k non crit

I always been using and experimenting with different weapon combos to make it work. So far the best results i had with mace/mace howered i prefer to pair it with gs for trait synergy and it doesnt work that good. Still waiting for a revamp (for both weps)

bobomb.5209:

I guess from these comments I am the only one who likes the new mace? I don’t know about you guys but I feel like the new animation makes the mace feel even more powerful.

For me its look like a movie in slow motion, and it doesnt look powerful either. Powerful looking animation is arcing slide.

Both helmets are terrible.

I want ascended melandru runes!

I do actually wonder about one thing..Do they have some fetish with warrior to put most damage into last hit or what?

Also i believe they don’t know their own game.

Meanwhile as community we left unaswered while some dev comments a fake dragon finisher..not sure if srly?

Burnfall.9573:

“Way of the Warrior”

A Warrior has no reason to be Cruel.

They do not need to prove their Strength.

A Warrior is Courteous even to his enemies.

Without this outward show of Respect,

we are nothing more than Animals

-

Keep animals out of it okay? If ya thinking human is greater than a animal, something is wrong with ya.

If i was that necro i would do alt+f4 xd

Predator aura

This or another way.. that skill is a joke.

clint.5681:

Water Spirit is probably one of the worse heals ive seen next to the new necro one. Just tested it out the icd is too long for the passive and the active barely scales with healing power + the fact that its 25 skill points = Useless

U want to try out defiant stance? Obvious animation+green numbers pop on enemy screen.

Romek.4201:

looks bad

it dont looks like a dragon more like a chinese unicorn on crack or something

is this real or photshopped?

cause cant believe arenanet would make such ugly finsiher^^

And that kind of ppl saying what is OP in this game and what not.. Take a look again guys.

/Thread

Nice dragon, i want one paired with legendary shortbow.

^ Reduced by 33% in spvp/wvw

Padrion.7382:

I took this trait, attacked the thief-bot in mists once and then just stood motionless in front of him with toughness/vitality gear and healing signet equipped. He killed himself when i had ~ 5k HP left.

Not bad i’d say

And in wvw i can archieve 2,7k power.. 270/hit sounds pretty good on 50% uptime

Not sure what the problem is? I still got 1070 to spend.

^ Its was a “big” update patch that had to fix many things. I don’t think they forgot to fix it, i think that change is intended. We had few threads about it, nothing done.

Burnfall.9573:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Burnfall.9573:

Thank You! Arena.net for taking serious responsible action against this Op class.

I honor you for taking a strong stand against Imbalance Warrior and abiding by Balance.

No class should should be all Superior in weapons and skills without sacrificing any weaknesses.

Warriors, accept the truth and move on.

As the saying goes, “In the end, the Truth Reign Supreme”

Well Done!

Arena.net

Im sure i also seen ya complaining about killshot damage. Yeah move on bc i can’t laugh everytime i see “truth” and i don’t even joke. I really laugh. And btw i still faceroll ppl as pre patch. Don’t thanks to em yet

The truth is admitting what is wrong, not being in denial of it

In other word, you are right!

The Truth must be taken seriously

and that is what Arena.net have done

As the saying goes, “if you can not admit, accept, your wrongdoing, you will never change for the better”

Don’t take it as insult, but i suggest to visit a doctor, a good one. Everything that AN did was taking qq of noobs seriously. Well go to pvp and 1v1 some hammer warrior and check urself if u did better, just dont come back to qq for more nerfs bc u still cant beat one

Burnfall.9573:

Thank You! Arena.net for taking serious responsible action against this Op class.

I honor you for taking a strong stand against Imbalance Warrior and abiding by Balance.

No class should should be all Superior in weapons and skills without sacrificing any weaknesses.

Warriors, accept the truth and move on.

As the saying goes, “In the end, the Truth Reign Supreme”

Well Done!

Arena.net

Im sure i also seen ya complaining about killshot damage. Yeah move on bc i can’t laugh everytime i see “truth” and i don’t even joke. I really laugh. And btw i still faceroll ppl as pre patch. Don’t thanks to em yet

Relentless.7023:

• To you, Hambow Warrior slayer of all with your puddles of slobber and rotten cheese. Your damage has been reduced and your Elementalist rivals of old have come for you ready to challenge your previous place as the masters of the side node

My hammer+mace/shield build is fine, been playing it without UF and i still faceroll nubs. Ur welcome

Bug Fixes

Crack Shot: Added a piercing fact to the trait and to the affected skills when it is traited.
Healing Signet: Added an interval fact.
Eviscerate: Fixed a bug that caused the damage facts to display the damage levels with Burst Mastery at all times.
Uppercut: Fixed the damage facts in regards to Burst Mastery.
Earthshaker: Fixed the skill facts to indicate the damage increase when Burst Mastery is traited.
Forceful Shot: Fixed the skill facts to indicate the damage increase when Burst Mastery is traited.
Combustive Shot: Fixed an issue that caused the field to be created at incorrect locations when the warrior moved out of range of their initial target. Fixed the skill facts to indicate the damage increase when Burst Mastery is traited.
Skull Crack: Fixed the skill facts to indicate the damage increase when Burst Mastery is traited.
Kill Shot: Fixed the skill facts to indicate the damage increase when Burst Mastery is traited.
Berserker Stance: Rewrote the description to more clearly reflect the function of the skill.
Battle Standard—Whirlwind Banner: Edited the description and fixed some spelling errors.
Determined Revival: Updated this minor trait to indicate the toughness gained.
Call to Arms: Added an unblockable fact and range indicator to this skill.
Rifle Butt: Fixed a bug that prevented the knockback fact from displaying the correct distance.
Signet of Stamina: Fixed a bug that prevented this skill from properly removing all conditions.
Shrug It Off: Fixed a bug so that prevented the “Shake It Off!” skill triggered from this trait to properly break fear. Decreased the radius of Shrug It Off to 600 to match the radius of “Shake it Off!” Updated the facts to reflect the trait’s functionality.
“Shake It Off!”: Updated the skill fact for conditions removed to display the actual number of conditions removed.
Desperate Power: Fixed a bug in which this trait would work while above the intended health threshold.
……

So they change to gain 1 adrenaline on crit instead of 3 is intended i understand. How nice, and i hear “no stealth nerfs was done”

^ Why are u surprised? I told ya they going to nerf it no matter what. They simply dont give a kitten what warrior community got to say.

Delete warrior, problem solved..

My axe 2 has crappy damage and 4 stacks of vul so nerf dark pack, i don’t think its should have any sort of immo instead it should do 4 stacks of vul bc its ranged it doesnt deserve for more

See how easy it is to compare single abilities op?

Kharr.5746:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Noobs still gonna get facerolled. They just moves up UF (no big deal) and reduced 20% damage on 2 skills inst a big deal either as everyone claims it to be.

The QQ about warriors will continue till we become a freekill, actually spvp forum has a thread about condi war, what next? Axe 1 OP?

Axe 1 WAS OP, and it was nerfed a while ago. Now most of the damage is on the last hit of the combo. If you miss that hit, you do awful DPS. Before it was consistently high throughout the entire chain.

I do not rebember anyone that was complains about axe aa before, but if u know any thread about axe 1 being op back then, link it. As far i know it was nerfed for no reason without any compensation.

That single nerf made axe a joke in general, aa and evi was everything that axe had, now it olny got evi. Cyclone axe and throw axe are a complete joke in current form, so does axe as ppl can facetank aa now.

Reason why ppl tend to run hammer is bc its the olny real viable weapon we got behind longbow. What else we have?

-A gs with weak auto, worse possible burst and 3.5 casttime that need secondary source to land it? Nty, im not going to be forced into a specific offhand/work around 1 skill to make it works bc devs been thinking its cool idea to put the whole damage in one skill that need hard cc to land.

-Sword? Flurry has no damage in power builds, at least if it was buffed i could see some pressure going from that weapon. 1 has similiar dps to axe counting bleeds but thats about it, gl getting someone under 50% hp with sword and even thena slow motion final thrust says hi

-Rifle? Everyone knows how bad it is, used olny some trolling in wvw.

-Mace? Skull crack getting nerfed, a kittene. AA is slow and weak, counterblow is clunky and block olny 1 hit no matter if ranged or not, pummel is used as a intterupt as it has no damage whatsoever. Also the mace as a whole has no cripple/gap closer..nothing

-And the last one is axe. No cc, no gap closer, just pure damage nerfed into ground with 0 and again 0 compensation not even a given reason as to why it was nerfed in first place. If thats the balance id say thx and bb to another game.. Oh well actually playing Vindictus and i have much more fun.

Noobs still gonna get facerolled. They just moves up UF (no big deal) and reduced 20% damage on 2 skills inst a big deal either as everyone claims it to be.

The QQ about warriors will continue till we become a freekill, actually spvp forum has a thread about condi war, what next? Axe 1 OP?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Class-Balance-Killshot-OP

He hehe hehehe, ill give it 2 months to see whirling axe skill being op too

Going to give it a try in gs+rifle build. Still can’t decide between vigor on stances/signet mastery or reckless dodge (the last option i will be looking for as dodge will be procing confusion)

Nikkinella.8254:

I’m wondering if this will negate damage from legendary defenders in WvW, They don’t just outright kill you, they just deal really, really high damage that 1 shots you. I’m wondering if I could pop this and run right into an enemy spawn. I know you already can with other things, but this will just give me one more thing to troll my opponents with. Pop this stance, run into their spawn, dance a bit, pop endure pain, rush out, swap to s/shield, run out and laugh at them.

Endure pain and shield stance working so that one will be working as well.. Too bad it keep teleport us back when we get too close :<

yanoch.7051:

Enemy see green number when you pop this. Once again warr get easy telegraphed/easy to counter stuff.

If its true, that skill is completely useless

Hmm mesmers..high uptime protection, lots of aegis, nearly perma vigor, invis, spammy Al, invuls, high damage, teleports, 446656845 free out of jail cards,15k base hp and 1k hp/3sec.. Yeah sounds balanced

Keep talking about healing signet guys ; o

Definitely core mission was my best experience in any game i have played, it is simply amazing. And i hope AN will learn something from it.

The sounds is the main thing that makes up climat, and gw simply lacking it.

3 weeks ago i had my first pre too – the lover from cof p1 chest.

Playtime; 3500 hours

Causic.3798:

Warlord.9074:

The truth is warrior is the easyest class to pick up and play and the hardest class to do well with vs skilled opponents of other professions.

Saying “truth is” before an opinions does not make it true.
And in my opinion it is still easier to do well versus skilled opponents compared to mesmer(since those two are the only geared 80s I have to use for comparison). My reasoning is that warriors have high defence, great regen, great hp, and is great at removing conditions (lemongrass poultry + that one trait that reduces condition duration).

I picked dps guardian for the first time as i never played it before, made some build out of nothing, went to pvp and..i facerolled ppl

Mesmer? 0 effort, al does the whole job, all i have to do is making sure i won’t get hit which is easy..again facerolled ppl

Spirit ranger? Spirits up, autoattack ready? Set.. Go..naturally facerolled ppl

Every class is easy to play in this game and i don’t think that should be reason to bring some class down in the first place. We are the olny class with telegraphed attack with elementalist, rest just keep spam al, evades, insta cast abilities, stacking boons, doing high damage being tanky at same time (condi builds) and so and its not a problem? Earthshaker should be also reduced to 1/2 casttime with nerf for compensate.

And the main problem are not skills, but merciless hammer trait, and that should be nerfed in the first place if they want to separate damage from control/AN logic.

Gs is pretty fast weapon, #2 and #5 are attacking with light of speed, before ur enemy notice they will be dead.

Another one is rifle, maintly killshot, it takes 0.25 sec to fire off for 20k damage

We also have axe with high damage aa that takes olny 1 sec to finish the whole chain, and evi with insta cast 600 range teleport for some 15k crits.

Welcome to warrior, enjoyyy opness

^ Add to that mesmer+guardian with about perma vigor up, and ranger+mesmer with high uptime protection.

Inst it that guy that was saying lb getting a buff anyway?

I think its will have it own heal +bonus on receiving a hit.

Arganthium.5638:

Another average heal, or nerfing HS to make it an average heal so that warr isn’t healing more than every other class in the game by a long shot.

So 0 compensate, back to become a freekill..Yeah not going to happen.

Arganthium.5638:

Harper.4173:

Arganthium.5638:

mini.6018:

Rascalking.9845:

A classes success should not be dependent on the use of a single skill.

Agree .But the problem is warrior class is completely broken without it

We’re not saying that HS should be removed, just that it should be lowered. If there is no middle ground between being OP and being broken, then the issue should be on how to improve the warrior overall.

You can’t. Because it’s a class that has no gimmick mechanic like clones and stealth.
Because it’s a class that is very beginner friendly and thus easy to play. Ergo played a lot – ergo it will kill bads a lot. Those bads will spam the forums and you’ll get nerfs such as the longbow and hammer nerfs.

Warriors will always be subject to their negative popularity. Sadly you can’t fix them – when they come even close to competitive people will spam the forums again with " NERF OMG".
Look at this thread – a nerf has already been announced and it hasn’t even arrived and people are STILL crying for more nerfs. Because they can’t up their game they just want to get a free win over warriors by requesting nerfs.

I can tell you that I, like many others, were fully in support of buffing the warrior when it was unplayable in sPvP. We backed top players like Qt Hman who played warrior. What we didn’t expect was for the warrior to become an unkillable monster with both heavy armor and ~400 health per second healing. So don’t QQ about something that is completely false; many players actually want to see some degree of balance, and to act like we just wanted to put warriors purposefully on a lower tier is absolutely wrong.

And how do you up your game against what even you described as a beginner profession? The only logical method with this amount of stealing is to keep up almost permanent poison uptime, but most professions can’t access that (or can’t even access poison), and the ones that can can usually be countered pretty easily anyways. But tell me- how do you expect us to “up our game” against heavy armor and 400 HPS? More than likely, the only method you’re going to present is that we should “watch out” for telegraphed animations, but the truth of the matter is that that is much more easily said than done, and when there are so many telegraphed animations, it eventually becomes practically impossible to avoid all of them.

Uhum uhum am uh ok

yanoch.7051:

I guess he use burst mastery and the added crit damage from discipline.

I got sefl buffed 4.2K ap and 70% crit damage/60% crit chance and my F1 hammer skill hit between 3K to 5.5k ish damage.(Maybe 6k on up level.) I don’t use UF.

I don’t use discipline trait so add the 10% from Burst Mastery and 30% more crit damage from the traits point and you should get close to 7k.

The issue with hammer is that everything stack and the worst is UF bonus applying before the hammer hit.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|2.5n.h2.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|1n.7r.1g.7r.1g.7r.1g.7r.1g.7r.1g.7r|3s.0.2s.0.3s.0.2s.0.3s.0.2s.0|0.a4.u29a.0.u38b|15.1|0.0.0.0.0|e

Was a bit wrong on crit dmg, but here it is, a complete build – olny 2 pieces are knight withmelandru runes, rest zerk fully ascended. UF, Merciless, Burst, DotE +25 bloodlust stack and guard wvw bonuses (total +350 power and 250 vit which count to food %) on without might from signet and theres no way i will ever reach the numbers of what he said.

Its ok if he wanted to sound cool, but getting a numbers out of hat is simply lame. If he want to prove me its possible, no problem. Im actually against his noob server in wvw so im waiting for that “7k” crit from es, 4k autos and so on.

MiLkZz.4789:

Some weapons superior in PvE, others in 1vs1 others in WvW

Deal with it. Or play another class.

Are condition classes complaining that they barely deal damage to bosses? Because they are useless there.

Hammer nerfs are more than deserved, my friend has 3.2k armor and crits 4k with hammer autoattack, 7k backbreakers, 6k staggering blows and 7k earthshakers. And keeps 5 people CCed down.

Yea…balanced? Besides they are only nerfing the damage on 2 skills of the hammer, the CC ones. So that even makes perfect sense.

O interesing. As a guy with 98 crit damage, 2600 power my eartshaker olny hits 3-4k, maybe 6,5 at best in upscaled. Also keeps 5 ppl cced down? Care to explain the secret?

Fresh made ss in 30/24/0/0/16 (24 in arms to avoid extra dmg on bleeding) no slashing power/axe mastery. Olny forceful gs