Guild Wars 2

Ok I Did It.2854:

appease a few people compared to the game population

Sorry, but this is BS.

Casuals hardly ever go to forums. They refund and walk away.

Forum goers are a minority, a much more invested and vocal minority.
And judging by the length and number of threads saying this was a problem I’d say that pretty clearly indicates the large majority of forum goers felt that, well, this was a problem.

Which makes you the very small minority of a very small minority.
And by your own logic, they should not do things to appease you.

See how that works?

Unfortunately I’m guessing the system has no way of knowing when it was purchased.

You might try putting in a support ticket if you can provide proof of purchase date.

Significantly higher than when I got up this morning.
(I was still having fun, won a bidding war for a desired item, bought the crystal arbiter glider and love it, enjoying many other aspects of it, but the HP monster was looming over everything, and now its not, mostly)

One of the biggest problems ArenaNet has, is they use known terms from gaming without considering the implications.

They called it Elite, and wanted people to grind for it.
Elitists see the term “elite” and latch onto it “Oh Em Gee guyz it’s an elite spek onee 5 peecent of popuulation shud eevr be able to urn it!!!!11!oneone”

You think I’m exaggerating, or just mocking people.
I’m not.
I’ve had several people straight up tell me that most players should never be able to unlock it because “it’s an elite spec”

It’s just a word, used to describe a new traitline and weapon unlock.
And somehow being able to zerg enough hero points makes it special?
No, not really, just really time consuming

They used the term (imo) more to be able to justify limiting you to only one of the new spec lines for balance reasons (yay esports) than any sense of it truly being “elite”.

Because if it were truly elite it would need to be more powerful, and if more power is directly gated behind the expack then the expack is pay to win.
(because buying it gives you a numerical advantage over someone who has not)

People need to take a step back and stop applying other games definitions of terms to every other game that uses it.
Why aren’t elite specs only for the elite players
Why aren’t rares rare
Why aren’t exotics exotic
etc

So? What’s with the “I have more currency than I can spend this instant I need a sink!!1”
There’ll be more elite specs, and I imagine the “leftover” HP will be factored into that process somewhere and we’ll be back to complaining we don’t have enough.

Agreed, while I might quibble about various issues this really is one of the most amazing games I’ve played, and I love it (which is why I’m passionate when it comes to debating the issues).

Thank you.

Woooooooo, yes!

Thank you Colin!

That sounds like so much a better place for it.

Here’s the thing to remember.

That interface does not properly indicate the sequence of rewards. All it tells you is what’s next. How they sit in the other rewards section is irrelevant.

For example I chased charged lodestones in Straits of Devastation for quite some time and my rewards went something like
Vicious Claw
Vicious Claw
Incandescent Dust
Vicious Claw
Vicious Claw
Charged Core
Vicious Claw
Vicious Claw
Incandescent Dust
Vicious Claw
Vicious Claw
Charged Lodestone.

And writing that out feels too short (maybe because that doesn’t show that each one was two events?), so that might be inaccurate by missing a few more of the T5 dust and possibly a second core. But I stopped at the first lodestone because it took ages and I was simply done with grinding events there.
For the super pricey ones like eyes now is probably a good time to farm them, but I dunno about some of the others.

Much prefer skins to outfits, mostly because I can adjust the dye to my liking.
I absolutely hate to have channels assigned to the whole thing.

Ah, I see after flaming my comment on the other thread (which had had it’s name changed after I commented)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Can-t-complete-spoiler-Fight-Bugged/5670543

you felt the need to whine about it further.

Some people like to keep up with whats going on in the community/bug fixes/etc and would like to do so without having the end of the story thrown at them from every other thread title.
And that is not an unreasonable request.

People are perfectly free to discuss/report issues with things like end boss encounters without spoiling all the gory details of the story.
All we ask is you use a generic thread title labeled as a spoiler.
I believe the title of the original thread was
SPOILER...Can't complete Mordy Fight. Bugged!

This is a spoiler. and people posting such spoilers this close to launch should be given a posting ban of a week. Repeat offenders should have in game bans of similar time frames (imo)

Hilariously enough you’re example of Snape kills Dumbledore being a spoiler worth complaining about, when that is a perfect example of expiry of statute of limitations on plot twists (as I like to call it).
That particular plot twist is old enough if you haven’t gotten around to reading it you can’t complain if someone mentions it.
Darth Vader’s true identity, and the ending of The Sixth Sense fall into the same category.

A few days after release is unreasonably early to be spoiling things.

Can they still be earned at least? Was planning to try to farm a few for my herald.

As with the wings that while available looked bad and were only “fixed” later I might suggest picking the skin up on the chance it’ll get fixed/adjusted.
Better than it being fixed and having to wait a year to get them no?
And I say this wanting cob prices to crash and burn, so you’d better appreciate it!

We likely won’t see anything added like that until the next round of elite specs, and we have no idea yet what each class will get when the time comes.
And no the current stuff isn’t likely to change either.

That’s a massive spoiler in thread title, can we get action on these people, please?
They’re ruining the story for people who haven’t burned through it yet.

You get to keep all your unlocks/account bound stuff.

If none of that matters then by all means create a new second account.
If you are unsure what all that means I’d research carefully first.

What? I feel like they finally found a good place, not as weak as bwe3 but not as op as bwe2.

Looking at the purchase website the deluxe and ultimate versions still have the char slots.

The only thing missing is the veteran slot for those whose accounts were created before Jan 23rd.

Purchase the expansion, get a char slot, this can still happen.
Wish granted woooooo!

Yeah I’ve heard a bunch of people run into this.
My guess is they never considered people using anything but their new rev to unlock them??
Or something?

No no we were referring to that we preferred it like this (knowing what you’re getting) to RNG boxes like they’ve done for other stuff.

Ah, gotcha, Amazon’s price has hovered around $20 for a while, oddly the heroic edition being slightly cheaper.
I’ve considered picking up a couple alt accounts this way.

FrozenStarRo.7240:

Also bought. Can confirm you get all the items in the description:
outfit
glider skin
immortal weapon box (can select a single weapon skin from it)
1 total kit
5 flame dye kits (with a CHANCE at rare dyes, but they can also give low value common dyes – RNG)

I’m happy with my purchase and pray they continue to put weapon skins in such smartboxes rather than the BL tickets and scraps system.

Seriously! I hate the gambling RNG aspect of most weapons (and since I know people always tell me just buy gems, convert to gold and buy them, its not the same feeling!)

SixSixTrample.8451:

You’re reading it wrong.

You get ‘a choice of an Immortal weapon skin’, ‘flame dye kits’, and a ‘make over kit’.

Not a choice of ‘Immortal weapon skin or flame dye or makeover’

Also, it dyes very well IMO. You can dye the crystals separately, the metal, and the cloth.

Source: I bought the pack.

your choice of an Immortal weapon skin, a Total Makeover Kit, or 5 Flame Dye Kits

Interesting. I’m thrilled to hear that, I just want to note it says or 5 dye kits, which in the context of that sentence proper grammar indicates a choice between those three items (with one of the choices being another choice lol).
I assume it’s a typo then.

Thanks guys!

So I was looking at picking up the Arbiter pack, love the glider, kinda like the outfit, and it has a makeover kit, an immortal weapon, and some some dye packs.

But As I’m looking for a chat code to preview the outfit so I can see if it dyes well I run across the blog post advertising it.
It says: "This pack contains the Crystal Arbiter Outfit and Crystal Arbiter Glider as well as your choice of an Immortal weapon skin, a Total Makeover Kit, or 5 Flame Dye Kits. "

Your choice of. This clearly says you do not get all 3 of those things, despite the fact that in-game it very clearly advertises that you get all 3 (see attached pic)

I am now confused as to what exactly I’d be getting, which to a moderate degree impacts the value of said package.
Anyone picked it up able to shed some light on this?
(and maybe direct me to a chat code for the outfit?)

Thank you,
Scribe

Notaries are currently disabled due to some exploit or other.

Crowbars come from event rewards, like shovels.

They’ll still work for creating paid core accounts. Haven’t bought one since HoT released but I did after they stopped selling the core on the website, and it worked fine.

Curious where you’re seeing it extra low, haven’t seen any drops in price myself so far.

You’ll need to get new armor for any non-heavy class.
People aren’t going straight to legendary, its not out yet, and once its out will only be obtainable from raids which are balanced around and are “recommended” to have ascended gear.

That said, exotic is fine for most everything else. For now.

People still run it, at least for now, hopped into one the other day to grab the Mistward part from the vendor, took 150 geodes so didn’t have any left for anything else though

Website still shows character slot for Deluxe and Ultimate.

http://buy.guildwars2.com/

You buy a car.

You drive this car for 3 years.
The manufacturer comes to you and says, Hey, we’ll sell you a motor upgrade and a sunroof for $50, and transport you and your car to another continent so you can experience the new ride in style.

You say, holy smokes that’s the best deal since sliced bread.
You pay $50, they upgrade your car and take you to (insert other continent).

You hop in the car. And as you do the salesman says, oh by the way, you have to drive the old car for 50,000 miles to unlock the new features for the car (with a discount to 25,000 miles if you’ve already driven 250,000 miles where you came from).

You say hey wait a second, I thought I was going to be able to use the new features as I drove around the new place??
He says, nah you won’t get a sense of adventure or journey if you aren’t earning the new features on your car by experiencing the new place, so getting to use them is locked behind experiencing the very thing you wanted to experience with the upgrades.

It’s like putting the cart before the horse.
Or locking the key inside the chest.
And yes, it’s just as stupid.

Yes, constantly and its really annoying.
Keeps getting me killed, I make a simple jump but instead my glider pops out automatically and I float over where I wanted to land.

I would rate it very highly.

Some of the hindrances:

Elite spec grind:
See my post here
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/People-Gotta-Chill-Just-a-Little-Bit/5663039

Too many contested waypoints.
I actually don’t mind dying here and there, whether to mobs or falling or whatever, but when I then have to run half way across the map (losing credit for events in the process) this is not fun.

I don’t have a problem with masteries being a grind actually, they’re supposed to be a long term progression sort of thing, not something you grind out in a week (seriously I see all these people grinding their minds out who are going to be whining about not having anything to do in just a couple weeks tops (sorry I think that’s kind of stupid, imho))
For some of it, the gating makes sense and is kind of cool, like older games (back in my day get off my lawn blah blah) such as OoT where you needed new stuff to get to whole areas and it was fun getting those.
But you didn’t get them by killing redeads a thousand times.
Imagine if instead of simply grinding kills/events for mastery exp, you did events specifically for the Itzel, and as you build favor with them they start to sell you stuff (A gliding instruction manual that simply unlocks gliding)
Or an unlock for something being part of exploring a mini dungeon or at the end of particular event chains related to certain things.

Not making Ascended significantly more expensive and then lying about it.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head.

You buy a car.

You drive this car for 3 years.
The manufacturer comes to you and says, Hey, we’ll sell you a motor upgrade and a sunroof for $50, and transport you and your car to another continent so you can experience the new ride in style.

You say, holy smokes that’s the best deal since sliced bread.
You pay $50, they upgrade your car and take you to (insert other continent).

You hop in the car. And as you do the salesman says, oh by the way, you have to drive the old car for 50,000 miles to unlock the new features for the car (with a discount to 25,000 miles if you’ve already driven 250,000 miles where you came from).

You say hey wait a second, I thought I was going to be able to use the new features as I drove around the new place??
He says, nah you won’t get a sense of adventure or journey if you aren’t earning the new features on your car by experiencing the new place, so getting to use them is locked behind experiencing the very thing you wanted to experience with the upgrades.

It’s like putting the cart before the horse.
Or locking the key inside the chest.
And yes, it’s just as stupid.

Maybe in cities and zones up to lvl 40?

I believe a build saving (and presumably sharing) feature is something they’ve said they would like to do they just haven’t yet.

So hopefully one of those things that will get worked on after HoT is up and running smoothly.

There’s always a chance the potion will come back again through other means, doesn’t have to be that one currency.

They said at the end of the event they did not plan to reuse that currency.

I rebound it to Alt instead of Cntrl, holding Alt with my thumb causes significantly less cramping after hours of play then Cntrl with my pinkie did.

Misguided.5139:

Battelle nailed it.

Indeed he did.
Only thing I would add is we need a Mentor Abuse report function.

It’s unlocked via a collection under Collections→Specialization Collections that first unlocks as you unlock Reaper.

Some maps have unid dyes as map rewards, but I doubt its dropping enough to crash the prices like that, not when many other things don’t appear to have blipped at all.

Keep in mind they just moved the ascended goalposts to make something that was asininely expensive already even more so.

Shoe.5821:

Do we get enough hero points for the full spec from completing all hero points challenges, or is there another way? I feel like thats not enough if its 1 point each for them

Maguuma challenges are worth 10 pts each

Yes, and there are 40 of them, many gated behind masteries.
Tons of grinding masteries just to get there, and then they’re champs you need zergs to take down.
And you need all of them if you aren’t going to go grind core world completion to shave off half the cost, or grind WvW for who knows how freaking long.
I don’t want to get my herald at the end of HoT’s content.
I wanted to play HoT with my herald.

yeah, sucks man, I wasn’t expecting getting to play my rev to be the end reward for completing the jungle with her kitten.

Feel like the only way this isn’t going to ruin the experience is to grind the HP in WvW.

TJgalon.5012:

It a goal to earn while exploring the harshness of the jungle.

A goal to earn?
You consider the elite spec to be a simple trophy you get at the end?
Sorry, I wanted to play the jungle as my espec, not get it as an end reward for doing all of the hero points in the jungle, grats here’s an elite spec to stick on a shelf somewhere.

I could go do core world completion for half of it, so that it only ruins half the jungle grinding for the other 20 points, but that’s not how I envisioned starting off with my Rev.

Don’t believe it. Sorry its just way too much of a coincidence.

An extractor would work, but thats pretty freaking expensive.

I just keep hoping they’ll make karma armor salvage for, you know, karma.
Kinda like WvW armor salvaging for badges, but then, it took 3 years to get that through their heads so I’m not holding my breath.

Seriously, it’s insane.
Not to mention entirely disingenuous.

What? New content would never cause people to leave, I have it on good authority.

All precursers were changed to the new skins. Each precurser as far as I know had a look alike, so it should still be obtainable from that other gun, assuming there is one for the Hunter.

Pretty sure its just gone. (well the influence should still be there but you most likely will not be able to queue deep cave with it.)