Guild Wars 2

Jerus.4350:

Silberfisch.3046:

While I love the idea, I am afraid this is extremely unlikely because without the competitive aspect, it’s just a souped up monthly.

Exactly but that’s why I think it’d be cool. Right now we’re on break in the LS, this would be a perfect time to have something like this. “we’re on break from the LS, but while that’s happening here’s some extra incentive to go and play things you might otherwise not. Have fun everyone!”

And on a second thought (painting rooms leaves time to think), the new concept for the Season 3 in WvW actually also sounds like a souped up monthly/weekly, truth be told.

While I love the idea, I am afraid this is extremely unlikely because without the competitive aspect, it’s just a souped up monthly.

No, you’re not.
You are scaled up to 80 and your equipment is scaled accordingly. But you are still level 55 and can’t use anything that requires a higher level. Be it equipment, runes and if I remember correctly not even consumables for higher level characters.

dlonie.6547:

NCSoft got DDoS’d last night, and it looks like they were still having some problems off and on this morning.

Wildstar server status page is a good indicator for GW2, too.

I suspected something like that, but wasn’t sure. Thanks for the information.

vespers.1759:

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Based on the people I have talked to ingame, the majority of them are buying because they can’t/won’t run the dungeon and simply want the tokens and title. I said I’m sure some people do it to level faster, but based on my experiences, they are the minority.

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And that is the important bit. “Based on people I have talked to ingame”.
Apparently Lilith and you simply talk to different people.
I talk to different people too. In my social circle buying for xp and buying for tokens happens about equally often. If those people buy at all.

It simply depends on who you talk to.

As a side note, questioning someones ability to read if they disagree with you is bad form. Just fyi.

And true, you didn’t say “most”. Just “a lot”. But your entire commentary implies that you believe that legit sellers are in the minority. If you do not, than that was a misunderstanding. Something I fell for too, btw. Still, nothing to insult someone over.

That aside, yes, you will see more path sellers in arah then in most other dungeons. But there are regular sellers for AC or CM around for example as well.
And at least on EU servers the “apparent” amount of sold paths has increased compared to a few months ago.
Why? Because more people learned how to solo/duo/whatever and try to sell their paths. More experience among the players.
Another reason: The people you refer to who buy for the dm for example will buy only once and thus those interested in that are reduced to the influx of new players who want to buy. Same for the tokens. With the wardrobe you only need each skin once. Then it is unlocked. no reason to buy the skin multiple times like before the wardrobe. Again only new players or people who have a newfound interest in the skins will buy for those reasons.
So the demand might be reduced while the number of possible sellers went up.

The other reason why path sellers seem so dominant has already been stated. Normal groups fill up much faster, sometimes even faster than the automatic update function of the lfg tool will display them for you. So you will never see them.
And not all of them are for experienced players only.

As for Ivan’s Arah tours. They are popular because
a) He advertised them here.
b) Every single person that went on one of those came back with positive feedback about his teaching skills and how much fun the tour was.

deSade.9437:

Silberfisch.3046:

Lilith, you’re a girl, please explain to me how something encased in plates of solid metal still bounces.
Makes me question the quality of the metal somehow. Or my knowledge about physics.

I also want to know.
When… how.. do they bounce? Can you give us direct evidence to support your claims?
:3 Jk jk.
Yo, dinosaur, sorry for logging off like that but I was dying of tiredness and boredom. Seems like I can’t log back into the game now, weird bugs everywhere and huge lag. Anyone else?

No problem, youngster. I was having trouble with the TP and after the 5th restart I gave up and went to sleep as well. I’m currently not trying to log into the game, because RL and stuff, but the forum and the whole gw2 domain was giving me trouble. Seems to have subsided now however.

Lilith, you’re a girl, please explain to me how something encased in plates of solid metal still bounces.
Makes me question the quality of the metal somehow. Or my knowledge about physics.

Sooo, that particular path 2 can only be joined by norn females?

Vegetable pawns have standards?

I thought every balancing patch resetted the speedrun records?

Mob-Ball, almost as fun as aura or quaggan ball.

The best roleplay adaption ingame I have seen so far in modern MMORPGS still is SWTOR. For all the flaws the game had, the personal story, the story attached to the dungeons and the roleplay options were simply magnificent, since every godkitten quest was a fully voice acted conversation very often with choices for light, dark or neutral. And since in a group they used a diceroll system to decide whose answer would actually be used, it was fun to annoy the holier than thou jedi with my greedy little smuggler who didn’t care one bit about good or bad as long as he got paid.
And it added more flair for the following visits to the dungeon because this time some other answer might be used. That was absolutely great.

Mace+shield ftw! And I have no shame in admitting that mace+shield/staff was how I started my career as a guardian.
Though a thief in the group will quickly teach you by eating dirt that this “regeneration” thingy isn’t rally what you think it is, if you come from a trinity based game.

Truth be told, when I started to use stacking techniques I was taught that was the stack spot at first.
Always struck me as odd, because I couldn’t see anything at all.
But then, it explained why they always wanted a guard for WoR, condicleanse, stability and protection. And thought that a berserker equipped guardian was odd. Which to be fair I wasn’t at the time.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Oh I just wanted to add that in hobby RPG stuff you’re supposed to do everything in your power to help and improve your team. I’ve had many a party mate in dnd whose alignment dictated that they not care about the party and on more than one occasion they have literally killed the entire party (a member once tapped the ceiling of an underground tunnel with his staff and buried us killing us all and before that attempted to mount a drake 5 levels higher than us to try and tame it and we had to use all of our daily spells to save him).it’s those kinds of situations in RPGs including selfish phiw dungeon players I can’t tolerate. That’s why wipes happen and dnd campaigns end before their time.

I’ve been playing pen&paper rpgs as a gamemaster and player for over 25 years now. I get where you come from.
I’m a paladin player at heart, always have been – either that or dwarves. But I usually searched for some niche rules/church/belief system that allowed to be a bit more lenient with the “lawful good” alignment. To speak in dnd terms which most here will be more familiar with than other obscure games I’ve played over the years.
Because a character playing that to the fullest will be a dealbraker for many campaigns in terms of options for both players and gamemasters.

I have to concur with the ele aggro bonus. That class would make ahell of a tank in other games.
Especially if you run dagger+x. You can bet you get aggro. And even with my very limited ele experience I have noticed that.

gw2 forum, now with more little crawly thingies.

Edit: Qoute added for clarification issues.

deSade.9437:

Noooooo, PHIW is the stubborn player that doesn’t care about others at atll. You don’t seem like you have that kind of mindset…. do you?

Warning: Wall of Text/pseudo-autobiography mmorpg wise

TL;DR In some respects you could argue that I have that kind of mindset. But in a positive way imho. If this confuses you, you’ll have to read the wall of text I’m afraid.

I don’t care what build/equipment someone runs as long as it doesn’t clash with the declared party description, may it be in the lfg, the guild chat, TS or similar.
If a cleric/soldier healbunker joins a speedrun, they are in the wrong spot. If they join one of my nondescript runs, I don’t care if I get a condition mesmer based on confusion, a full water elementalist, a bearbow or a meta player.
I shake my head maybe at runspeed sigils that never leave the bar or if someone blatantly refuses to make an encounter easier by not bringing projectile defense/stability/blind/whatever. But unless they seem to be out to grief or are downright kittens in the chat I won’t kick someone.

Personally, as I said, I dislike being carried. But I come from a long line of main characters being tanks and healers in trinity based mmorpgs. If you didn’t do everything possible to minimize your damage/maximise your aggro output or do your best to keep your team alive in those cases, you let down your team. You become a liability instead of an asset.
Combine that with being a raidleader for quite some time and you see why efficiency is so important to me. It’s like in a game of sports. Everyone should do their best to help the whole team.
But it is still a hobby. It should be fun. If it isn’t, look for a different way to have fun. That’s the mindest I come from.

The hardest decisions I ever had to make as a raidleader was to tell someone their playing skills weren’t good enough yet to join the raid. Because if I allowed them, I would have dragged down the entire team.
We offered coached training possibilites in those cases however.

I know I had a few misconceptions about tanking and healing efficency wise in the beginning as well in pve in GW2, being used to take the blow and heal up again. I sort of evolved past that and started to adapt to the different style of GW2. Active defense simply changes a whole lot.
The other big gamechanger is: You can do everything in this game with any setup you run. It will only take longer (and sometimes be actually more difficult that way). In other MMORPGS there were often things that simply couldn’t be done if the equipment/playerskills/overall efficiency didn’t add up. So I’m way more lenient with other player’s efficiency if I’m willing to spend the extra time in that particular scenario.
Not myself though, unless I’m too drunk/tired to care.
I might feel sorry for someone who wanted to rush and “lost” a lot of their time. But only to some degree, because maybe a speedrun would have been more fitting for them than my little “px – i don’t care what you play”-setup.

So I do care about my teammates in respect of what I can do to help the team. I don’t care so much anymore about what other players actually do in those cases however.

In the end, whatever floats your boat, it’s about having fun for everyone.
So very often the easiest and at the same time possibly hardest way to make sure everyone has fun has had to be stated in this forum so often, it’s almost sad.
Find likeminded people to play with. And that’s all there is to it for me. You’ll have to put some effort into that first, but then you’re golden. But that’s the way with any other team/group-based hobby as well.

He still can if people use that weird LoS spot between the rubble and the pillar, where you can’t see anything once the particle effects light up.

I hate AD, I find him much worse than Moosi.

Anyway, I wasn’t talking about swarm-mode safety in numbers but general teamplay. You go with that the team decides more or less democratically. Or at least I usually do.

And please remember, I AM a PHYW and in a PHYW guild as well. So I use PHYW reasoning to some degree.
I do however like to pull my weight as much as possible which means I try to be efficient. Which means that most of my characters are close to or full meta and I strife to get better at my playing skills (again with varying success).
In some cases I run odd builds like venomshare, because I loved that one before they killed basilisk venom in pve. But you won’t see me doing that outside of guildruns or solo content.
In some cases I won’t be running full berserker because I inject some knight’s pieces. Even in pug runs. Because I don’t have the recources to craft that many ascended sets (yet, it’s a work in progress) and in a PHYW setting that can make a lot of difference with my level of playing. But that’s the “worst” you have to expect from me.

injects a pink quaggan plushie thrown after minigrump for linking that 10h lego movie music track
Now I can’t get myself to stop it.

deSade.9437:

I can condone a crappy choice of weapons… if your team isn’t harmed by it. So, scepter mesmer at mai or a ranged weapon if the whole team is ranging. What I don’t accept – and never will – is the rest of the team having to do most of the work because of selfish choices.
Unless you’re trolling.
This applies only with a decent team, obviously. You can’t expect pugs to be good and melee, so you have to adapt… unless you’re a guardian, then every single pew-pewing kittened huntard or water staff elly will demand protection from you. OMG nub guardian y u no put wor against shaman’s arrows, I can’t sidestep I’m busy pewpewing.
Pfft. Hell.
And trying to get good is not what I’d call stubborness. Trying to help your team isn’t stubborness either. I consider going bearbow in a team as far more stubborn.

I think it depends on the situation as you say. If your team wants to go ranged being the only melee is a bit stubborn because if your game isn’t top notch the risk of you going down is far higher so you essentially force them to 4 man or come and save you a lot.
Of course this works the other way round as well. If the team goes melee and you decide to spend your time as far away as possible, well, we all know about that.
If it’s a mixed group like in many pug settings or some phyw guild teams, I think anything is fair game that isn’t actually harmful for the team. Unless the group’s description said otherwise.

I’ve played (if i did it at all) my mesmer exactly like that too for a long time, sword+x and gs as an emergency measure. (Lately I try and use sword+sword and sword+x, with varying success. But I rarely play mesmer at all.)
So I’m not really complaining about that or the GS use in itself. Or about mesmers in general. But the memory of that run combined with two others consisting of 3 mesmers, 1 (longbow-ish) warrior and my thief/guard are burnt into my memory in a slightly painful way.

As a side note: As anyone who has had the (mis-)fortune of playing with me can attest, I play far from perfect on any of my classes (and I’m an old phyw anyway), so I’m the last to complain about safety measures or odd choices of weapons.
There are pros and cons to everything and sometimes adapting to the situation will net far greater success than stubbornly trying to go with what you’re used to/know what mathematically or theoretically is the best.
So if I sometimes come off as condescending, I apologize. That is not my intention.

I’m fairly certain there are people who would enjoy that kind of fight.

I almost went “oh god, not another one” after reading Lilith’s story. But I’m biased. If you’ve ever run a fractal with 4 mesmers mostly enjoying their greatswords and your guardian ends up the only thing in melee aside from some shiny illusions, you will understand. (I know I have to blame myself, but ranging on guard feels so weird every time I do it.)
Don’t get me wrong however. One or two mesmers are fine, even great. Three are approaching critical mass. And four, well, yeah.

But I think pink butterflies suit Lilith, so there’s that.

I’ll admit, that looks very nice. Especially in the first picture.

I am now the proud owner of a persephone dye from deSade. Since my protests about me not doing drugs failed, I will store it in my bank as a memento.
And maybe sell it in a few years time for a horrendeous amount fo gold to collectors.

Anyway, as I already said, thanks for the laugh, much appreciated.

Or you could go with “Level 1, need midts stone/want to build backpiece”. You’ll most likely end up with 3-4 others who go there for the exact same reason.

The only disadvantage in that will be that you might get 5 people who are inexperienced at fractals. But so was everyone else too at the start. And Level 1 fractals really aren’t that difficult.
And if you run into a bug, you have my sympathy. Those suck. But Bugs can happen everywhere. On one of the megaserver shards I was, the Forsaken Halls entry event was bugged for example.

Honestly, from the viewpoint of someone doing fractals regularly, this is a good thing. Because this way the hammer bug gets more exposure and is more likely to get fixed.

Myst Dawnbringer.9138:

All anyone wants is another way to make the mist stone that doesn’t use fractal relics. Just make it with WvW or PvP tokens, or some other token players would rather get. You got to buy a mist stone what does it matter what you buy it with. Players who like fractals probably have lots of relics. Maybe players who have WvW token have some of those they would rather use. Maybe someone would just rather use his fractal relics for something else.

Also they could have told us from the start this was going to be a Fractal Perk then those of us who don’t want to bother could have just skipped the whole thing. Oh but then no one would be in dry top.

The problem is, if you charge badges of honor for example for the Mists Stone people who don’t like WvW will be annoyed as fuzzy feline as well. If You offer both options both sides would probably be happy, But there are people who might dislike WvW and fractals. Then you need a third option.
Of course you could just make it obtainable via half a dozen ways, as you suggest, but that would be seriously unfair for example towards the people who dislike event farming for example. So geodes are troublesome for them. Or people who hate crafting.
You could argue of course that everything that is geode or crafting based has a step in between that can be purchased via the trading post.
Then someone else can bring up that they seriously hate story dungeons and we can start all over again.
I am exaggerating slightly here, but I think it drives home the point: There will always be someone complaining about certain parts they don’t like if you have to put in some effort to gain something.

And I didn’t even bring up the old fractals/dragonite/meta-events problem as a comparison yet.

deSade.9437:

Silberfisch.3046:

Would the blood of a thousand skritt/quaggan/asura/whatever be enough to amend that?
Otherwise I’ll have to go with “life is not a popularity contest”. Unless you are a celebrity of course.

I don’t know, I’m feeling awfully negative these days. Sorry.

It might be enough… if you sacrifice them all to the glory of the Dark Lowd.
Anyway, am I not a forum celebrity?
And why so negative?

ad Unum: And dedicate the loot to a foundation that takes care of lost kittens.
ad Duum: Lilith answered that for me. But I am not, so popularity is a non-issue for me.
ad Tertium: Long story. Not fit for the forums I’m afraid. Anyway life will get better, so will my mood.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Come on guys don’t let my new contest get ignored.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Ninja-Fashion-Contest-Open/first#post4309136

I don’t do “ninja”. Sorry.
And I’m trying to confine my snarky or off-topic remarks to this subfoum.

deSade.9437:

Yo do know that we’re not friends anymore, don’t you?
:<

Would the blood of a thousand skritt/quaggan/asura/whatever be enough to amend that?
Otherwise I’ll have to go with “life is not a popularity contest”. Unless you are a celebrity of course.

I don’t know, I’m feeling awfully negative these days. Sorry.

Do you have to thwart my evil thoughts with cuteness in their early state already? sighs heavily and goes back to being a hopeless carebear

Yay! I’ve gained an official permit to hate. Now what to apply it to next? grins evilly

This is why I edited my post. I don’t say they can’t look nice. Or actually have a colour scheme based on actual examples from our lovely nature. There are types of bark and wood that are almost black as well, not just your little cactus.
I just don’t like them.

Trust me I know all about the perils of trying to get dyes to work on sylvari cultural armor. sigh
My particular flower is green, with light pink petals (armor). I tried for I don’t know how long to get red hues to work for the armor but eventually gave up.

I will never get the fascination with charcoal sylvari, or burnt twigs as I tend to call them if I’m in a slightly meaner mood.
For me a plant has to be colourful, vibrant. Otherwise its a dead plant.

And before someone piles in with “but it’s a necromancer”. Well commonly the necromancer herself isnt dead/undead, just a practitioner of magic involving the dead/undead. There are cases where they count among the undead themselves, but at least not in guild wars, as far as I know. (Could be wrong about that, admittedly.)

Edit: To clarify: I’m not saying that the designs don’t look nice or interesting. But they just rub me the wrong way.

I have decided to do something absolutely revolutionary and drastic RIGHT NOW! I’m going to actually play the game we talk about.

Because a friend needs some pristine fractal relics to make his dust eater backpack.

Too much effort, I would presume. I’ll be gladly proven wrong, but I too think the target requirement is what is going to happen.

I wasn’t entirely serious. I actually like engineers as a class, but I tend to get the aforementioned knot into my fingers whenever I try to use mine effectively. Or I am afraid to get cts because of the constant grenade placement in absence of an auto attack functionality for those.

But those attempts at levity aside, I’m do hope as well that they don’t overreact with the fgs adjustments to make it close to useless with whatever they change.
I have no problem if they tone it down a bit. But in these cases balancing teams across most games I’ve played have a sad tendency to go too far.

Engi, the class that can do almost everything other classes can do. Just in a more complicated way!
But then, some people actually like to make complicated knots with their fingers.

I’m a little concerned about the guardian cahnges. Making formerly less useful utilities and the tomes more useful sounds nice. But will they do it by boosting them or will they nerf those actually useful so far instad, so that guardians end up with a bunch of mediocre stuff?
I might see things a little too bleak here, but I honestly wouldn’t put it past them.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

But they called me childish for asking for something. They said I’m juvenile because I said “I want”. Should I have worded it “I have a desire that they do x but accept their decisions” in order to get through their thick effing skulls that I’m not saying they have to do anything? Is this forum not a place for suggestions? Can they all cease existing please? QQ

gives Lilith a hug and chocolate!

This combination helps against almost everything according to a good friend of mine.

I want you to show me how the revised bosses can be soloed within the time limit.

I know there are a few you could and probably still could solo if it weren’t for megaservers. I did it occasionally before the megaserver patch. Even if i take that into account, its till takes a lot more time to get your dragonite together to go high level fractals than to get 5 pristine relics for the dust eater+ascended backpiece.

And I want you to show me how I can solo a keep in WvW before the opposing faction transforms me into wxp and a bag (or forces me to withdraw).

You are equally dependant on other players in both cases. Actually even more so when it comes to map completion.

For the OP: If you find the backpiece that ugly, why make it in the first place? Or was it about the dust eater like in Liston’s argument?
I can’t see that as mandatory either. Nice to have maybe, but the disadvantage of not possesing that is minimal from what I’ve seen so far given what is produced by the dust eater.

Nope, sorry. You’ll never get through the mindset they employed.
Projecting their own jealousy on the wishes or arguments of others and accusing them of being jealous.
I’m sometimes stubborn enough to fight lost causes but not today.
carefully tapes Lilith’s phone to her hand to prevent throwing about

Why the hell did I read that prestige armor set thread? WHY?
I need a drink. No, better lots of drinks…

Is falling damage covered by fluffy melon? Then that wins for me hands down.

If not it’s most likely Mai Trin’s Cannons.

J Eberle.9312:

Silberfisch.3046:

You just hate flamethrowers because they singe your kitty’s fur and burnt hair smells awful.

I don’t like fire unless it’s blue

That can be easily solved by the engineer. Just ask him to dump some kitten nic, antimony or leadinto the flame. Tadaaaa: Blue flame.
And it should inflict poison on top of burning now…

Minigrump.4961:

Never thought I would run into one, but looks like I did.

I’ll never understand why people call a creative use of environment “exploit” by definition. Some may be. But definitively not all.

You just hate flamethrowers because they singe your kitty’s fur and burnt hair smells awful.

Let me guess: Lilith, sarcasm and felines?

Rasimir.6239:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

But when I have a sword/horn and LB war, a thief who’s camping shortbow and, who would’ve known, a GS-camping mesmer and they all didn’t bother to listen to advice then they have no godkitten right to QQ about Mai Trin being difficult.

Me not using GS on my mesmer at Mai Trin was apparently one of the reasons my former fractal group kicked me out … the other was refusing to use GS on the champ group (rabbit/shaman/ettin) in the harpy fractal …

There are (a lot of) people like that around, and they are totally certain they’ve got the game figured out and are playing the best possible way.

My first reaction upon reading this was “You can’t be serious?”. But you are serious. I’m with Novaan and deSade (and most likely 90% of the people here). This is just sad.

I’m not a big fan of failing events on purpose for whatever reason, but unless I need said event for something like a trait (or a followup event for the same reasons), I’m not going to interfere with what people do there.
Others already made it clear why and so I can only add: I also think it’s not an exploit to let an event fail on purpose. It is not playing the game as was originally intended by the designer however.
With the new events in Dry Top you can see a trend towards making the completion of events more rewarding on multiple fronts with the favor of the zephyrites and the spiced up reward for the actual completion in form of additional geodes and sand.
I think it is unreasonable from an economic standpoint for arenanet to revise all existing events in that manner and in a lot of cases simply not practical or makes no sense. So they will go with longer respawn timers or different scaling replacing champions with multiple elite spawns instead.
Would I prefer if they reworked those events to reward completion instead of doing that? Yes, I definitively would. But it is not realistic to expect that.