Guild Wars 2

Figured I’d go ahead and post this here. While the visuals on bomb 2-5 do show the old 240 radius traited animation, the effect still seems to be limited to 180 radius. You can test this pretty easily in HotM. So yeah, bombs are kittened.

When I was soloing AC earlier with (almost) no buffs other than food, damage seemed to be around 30-40% lower than before. Not sure how much this will impact full groups either (is the stat cap still there and just raised, or is the downscaling too harsh to reach it? How are +stat trait effects treated by this now?), but I guess we’ll see after reset.

Welp, no chance to increase bomb radius beyond 180 basically kills a lot of the builds I had in mind. Meanwhile, grenades actually got better because of the velocity/radius trait.

Shown in today’s stream:

Barbarian: 1200 vit, 900 pow, 900 pre
Berserker: 1200 pow, 900 pre, 900 fero
Carrion: 1200 condi, 900 pow, 900 vit
Celestial: 560 pow/pre/tough/vit/fero/heal/condi
Cleric: 1200 heal, 900 tough, 900 pow
Crusader: 1050 pow, 1050 tough, 560 fero, 560 heal
Knight: 1200 tough, 900 pow, 900 pre
Marauder: 1050 pow, 1050 pre, 560 vit, 560 fero
Rabid: 1200 condi, 900 pre, 900 tough
Rampager: 1200 pre, 900 pow, 900 condi
Settler: 1200 tough, 900 heal, 900 condi
Soldier: 1200 pow, 900 tough, 900 vit
Valkyrie: 1200 pow, 900 vit, 900 fero
Assassin: 1200 pre, 900 pow, 900 fero
Cavalier’s: 1200 tough, 900 pow, 900 fero
Magi: 1200 heal, 900 pre, 900 vit
Sentinel: 1200 vit, 900 pow, 900 tough

New/changed/interesting amulets in italics.

New stat totals:
3-stat amulets: 3000
4-stat amulets: 3220 (7.33% over base)
Celestial: 3920 (30.66% over base)

Old stat totals:
3-stat: 2232
Berserker’s: 2364 (5.9% over base)
Celestial: 3066 (37.37% over base)

Looks like no multi-item stat system :(

Edit: imgur album here

It would be pretty kitten nice combo’d with gadgeteer and no extra gadgets, free Overcharged Shot break or stunbreak + fury every 20s when you’re not fighting a thief or engi or war. I don’t think it’d be worth giving up Kinetic Charge for though, unless you’re using it as your only stunbreak which I wouldn’t recommend.

Double Supply Drop basically guarantees a won 1v1. You can put 10k heals down on the ground shortly after engaging a 1v1, or use them to save an ally and turn a lost 1v2 into a won 2v2. I could see some people running a troll 5 engi comp and abusing the hell out of this. I’m thinking this one will definitely be nerfed or changed soon.

Or better yet, let us select 3 different (or same) stat combinations to decide our stats. Amulet, ring, earring, each deciding 33% of our stats. Suddenly a lot more builds will become viable.

Please tell me that was a troll post. Please. My sanity requires it.

andrew.1798:

Just because it’s in the game currently, does not make it balanced. Good try though.

Just because it’ll be in the game in the future, does not make it unbalanced. Good try though.

tetrodoxin.2134:

Funny. On the first page of this thread balance was ruined (THOUSANDS of players deleted their engis!), cause they couldn’t perma 33% anymore. Now seeing it rebuffed, the difference doesn’t matter that much anymore? Oh, the irony :P

Anyway, better hide this thread before other classes see this. I foresee a kittenstorm (<- not actual kittens, that would be mean) :0

News flash: the people posting those things are, you know, not the same people. As it turns out, there are a wide variety of players posting on the forums, with a wide variety of opinions.

skowcia.8257:

Why just not buff engineers to 1 shot anything on a sight?

Rip any form of balance.

Oh no! Most engineers will be running +33% movement speed instead of +25% movement speed, kind of like they all do today! Balance is ruined!!!!111!!!

All I want is for SD procs from instant skills to have the same power coefficient kitten procs from non-instant skills.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

I was looking through Streamlined Kits and the effective loss of swiftness uptime there was an unintended consequence of Kit Refinement being packed together with Speedy Kits. I’ve gone ahead and changed the swiftness from Streamlined Kits to a 20s duration.

Thanks!

Josh Davis.6015:

Seems to be working for me on our dev branch. Let me know if it seems borked after this goes release goes out.

Thanks, will do. Is all the baseline stuff mentioned for Engineer in the first livestream (Rifled Barrels, Forceful Explosives, pistol 1/rifle 5 classified as explosions) still going through?

Will Engineer’s Launch Personal Battering Ram be fixed with this update? The daze portion of the skill that was ‘added’ a while back does nothing currently. Static Discharge would be a bit more viable if it worked.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

They should’ve just given the godkitten character slot to everyone who already owns GW2 – The slot is about 10€ value and so is the base game after countless of times where it was on sale for as cheap as 10€.
But nah, rather kick long-time customers in the face.

On a side note, is the forum loading slowly for anyone else today?

Very slowly for me. 1.5-3 mins for page load, and like 3-4 mins to post something. Not that the forum being broken is anything new or surprising.

My issue is I feel like I’m missing out by not using the code for a new account. Expansion + 5 char slots > expansion + 0 char slots. But then I’d have to move stuff around and work a new account up, do full map complete, etc, etc. Ugh.

So engi gets a trait that will reveal a stealthed enemy when you hit them. Wonder if it’ll work on Mossy and Bloody Victoria.

fracture.9754:

What about consume conditions? :>

Cooldown increased to 30s, and now applies 10 stacks of vuln to you for 4s when it ends. Not sure why they felt the need to nerf the only good heal necro had, when it’s ridiculously interruptible already.

Are.1326:

I wonder, is there anything mortar kit can give when activating kit refinment that would make it worth all this? Any Suggestions?

Mortar Kit KR proc is a pile of gunk. Like, the one that thieves steal from engineers. It applies random condis and acts as an ethereal field. Source: livestream.

B-bingo…?

Right now, you can unlock everything on your character in 1 of 2 ways: trait hunting (mostly in open world PvE) or spending skill points and gold. This is nice because even if you don’t enjoy trait hunting, you can still unlock everything for your characters without going far out of your way through method 2, because almost everything in the game awards skillpoints and gold.

Play only dungeons? Skillpoints and gold. PvP? Skillpoints and gold. WvW? Skillpoints and gold. Fractals? Skillpoints and gold. Spend all your time playing Sanctum Sprint? Skillpoints and kittening gold. If you do anything besides AFK in LA all day you’re going to end up with enough skillpoints and gold to fully unlock your character. And that’s a good thing.

After these changes, if you want to fully unlock your characters, you’ll have the choice of either doing hero challenges in open world, or… doing hero challenges in open world. I really don’t understand how you guys can’t see that this is a huge kittening step backwards. Forcing players to do content they don’t like to unlock skills and traits that are used everywhere is a very bad thing, and certainly not fun.

While we’re at it, can we get HP %s displayed, so we know when our trait/rune procs are going to happen?

This one?

TheLastNobody.8319:

Annnnd this topic has devolved quickly. -_-

Welcome to the PvP forum.

If anything they should change the title to something like “Leap Changes Discussion” or “Dash Feedback” or something. It’s pretty ridiculous like this.

Speak for yourself, I’m making a killing selling pitchforks right now. Pitchforks that will, at least, keep your enemies from leaping away once you’ve impaled them.

Removing counterplay and nerfing OOC mobility, gg anet. Mobility must have been too confusing for new players. Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall for a few hours.

There goes my optimized Obsidian Sanctum route as well…

ANet is ruining mountaingoating. No more swiftness leaps or superspeed rocket boots. Urgh.

+999999

I’m getting an ‘Unhandled SEH error’ or something like that. So yeah the latest update probably broke it.

Urgh, I really need to stop reading through threads like that. My head hurts from banging it against the wall so many times now.

I’ll run dungeons or fractals with friends/guildies that ask, even if I’ve already run the path(s)/reward level(s) that day, because they’re about the only things I still enjoy doing in this game outside of sPvP.

+1

Tea.7025:

Going to be honest.

Haven’t seen such an outrage over the inability to dress up one’s own character as a playboy bunny for a long time. Not since the Elin got their panties covered up in the western version of Tera.

It makes more sense when you realize the real endgame for GW2 is fashion.

It’s even more fun when you use Bomb Kit’s Kit Refinement proc to group mobs together in the absence of a guard/mesmer. Everyone’s like “wtf, since when does engi have AoE pulls?”

Mods are getting worse and worse here… maybe I will check out W* after all.

Rifle hybrid will remain meta. No idea about the amulet, it’ll depend on just how ANet handles the amulet issue. It won’t be pure grenades, though. Bombs are going to be OP as hell with how much might you can stack easily through dodge/heal blasts, all of which will heal you as well.

Condi stuff could either be really strong or really weak depending on how the rework goes, and we have no idea what (both new and old) condi traits/skills will look like after it. Personally I’m leaning towards weak, but again, no idea what ANet will do there.

The spec calculator~ on dulfy’s site has the traits as shown on the livestream. In addition to that, Consecrated Ground, Elite Focus, and the +50% spirit weapon duration traits are all becoming baseline. So yes, double wall will be gone, but oneshot won’t, and guardians will have to deal with weird diagonal walls and screwy positioning like engis currently do. Of course, all of this is subject to change.

+1, variable stats and build diversity are good things

Speedy Kits. Pretty much every successful engineer build ever takes it. Not having to put 2 into tools to get it opens quite a few more build choices.

It’s +50% effectiveness for fury, meaning 20% * 1.5 = 30% crit chance from it, not 50%.

Can confirm, have muted game sound permanently because of these.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Sins.4782:

IndigoSundown.5419:

Out of curiosity, what mobs “spam” CC? Most mobs that have such skills use them once, then die. The exceptions that I can think of are groups of the same mob that stagger their CC and Champs (and some vets) that live long enough that their having 3 moves that cycle over and over can be an issue. One such that bugs me is the Vet Risen Wizard that applies Weakness with most hits, making a mockery of counter play.

Have you met my friend the Inquest Technician?

Many hundreds of times. I get stunned sometimes if I’m watching other mobs, then I kill them. Otherwise, I just kill them.

I meant the ones from Arah, which use 30 second channels which stun you every half a second or so, and come in pairs with their friends the deadeyes which will oneshot you if you’re unable to dodge.

Delves, excursions, assaults…

IndigoSundown.5419:

Out of curiosity, what mobs “spam” CC? Most mobs that have such skills use them once, then die. The exceptions that I can think of are groups of the same mob that stagger their CC and Champs (and some vets) that live long enough that their having 3 moves that cycle over and over can be an issue. One such that bugs me is the Vet Risen Wizard that applies Weakness with most hits, making a mockery of counter play.

Have you met my friend the Inquest Technician?

So I heard you guys liked Elite Inquest Technicians.

I am not happy with the PvE gear system. If I had my way, all PvE gear would be of the same strength with selectable stats that can be saved and switched at any time. There would be no time spent grinding for stronger gear, and gear progression would solely be cosmetic. Everyone would be on a level playing field. It’ll never happen, though.

Honestly, I just don’t like that he uses a ranged projectile autoattack against players in melee range. He should be using one of his more powerful (and more telegraphed) melee attacks instead.