Guild Wars 2

Then just foolish, its not merely the remit of the young.

I see that there is no substance to your arguments.

Perhaps you belong to those who believe being coordinated is tantamount to cheating?

If you don’t think that the lead server should be the target of the other two then you have a pretty weak view of Strategy.

Frankly you dont grasp the 3 way mechanic. I am using as it is intended to be used. The top server being target by the others. If we were top we would expect to be targeted and when we were top that’s exactly what happened. If Augury were top i would be priortising them.

Are you two guys representative of IRON or are you just embarrassing your comrades?

I know I would be ashamed if Guildies of mine made such fools of themselves.

I do hope when it is explain to you that you have have the sense and decency to blush.

I have no doubt that there is someone in your guild who has the some strategic know how as I have seen you play. Ask him to explain it to you. perhaps you are too young to remember a game called dark Ages of Camelot. Google it, it is a classic game.

As for the beat down claims I think Thun have given you a fair share of Beatdowns too but nice brags all the same

Perhaps you two are amongst the younger members of your guild? We have a few young lads like you too.

All fur coat and no knickers.

When Augury takes the lead the alliance I am in will be exclusively attacking them.

I desolation leave us alone we will exclusively attack Augury with relish.

Pineapple relish.

The top dog shout always be the target.

The issue isnt the Guardan. it os how you approach mass pvp.

Join a good guild. Organisation is king.

The point of the Guardian is to be the most awesome esstential class in WvW.

It does this in spades.

DavidMonthen.4398:

Vayra.3290:

DavidMonthen.4398:

We’ll take it back if we lost it.

Not if we take it first

… we’ll still take it back!

We will hide a mesmer.

kittenh.9548:

Been loving fighting against Gunnars this week. From your destruction of our golem army, to what seemed like your entire population on Eternal trying to take Pangloss Rise supply camp from us and how long we held out for in there, its been great so far. Hope the next few days continue to bring as much fun

You had bad luck with golems, a guildy spotted you and they raid had full supply. So Balsitas were dropped and golems dropped.

If it makes oyu feel better we felt you pain, a lot of supply and gold spent on golems.

I love WvWkitten it rewards coordination.

If I may derails this. What do you spend Karma on when fully geared?

Methinks some on desolation, know they arent as good as they imagine. Others more than likely arent that aware ofwhat is happening. I find the pugs there inferior to the French. The organised guilds deserve a shout out though. I am sure they are frustrated by their pugs.

Teaming up against the winning serer makes sense. At start of the match up that’s what happened to Gunnar’s hold. I am all for that happening.

I am shocked that some are a bit scared of it. Actually it dawns on me, didnt desolation and the other server in tier one gang up on VS? Jesus if you didnt, /facepalm. please tell me i am wrong about this?

Now however Augury and Desolation are pushing Gunnar. Yesterday we had desolation breaking down a door and Augury turn up and attack it from the other side to let them in.

It took the two servers over 60 minutes to take the bay from one guild of 20 and a similar amount of pugs. The two servers were coordinating their pushes.

In fairness it was great fun and loot for us.

We dont play for 2nd place.

So if Desolation win the go back up to a bracket that they were humiliated in and much worse in my opinion didn’t enjoy. A bracket where they will not have another server to help them. I expect many whine threads about Canadians. the canadians are a a lie.

We on the other hand cant stop one server settling for 2nd. In fact I understand just couldn’t quite stomach it myself, even though its tempting.

Possible Augury need to consider that if they always play for 2nd they will eventually only have a downward spiral. One slip and you go down a tier and you are playing for 2nd there with no upward momentum.

Not that all is sweetness and light. When we were winning last week we had huge queues. this week we are losing and I am in in 15 minutes. We even have people leaving zones. Last week we had a ton of armchair generals this week whiners.

@whiners just a point, juts because you are not involved in the organisation doesn’t mean there isnt any.

Yet at some level I prefer this week. Everyday is a challenge and so far everyday ThUn have come out in the plus column(and I dont just mean badges).

Therefore we fight the good fight and have Sparta analogy completions in voice chat. The fun quota is high, so well done arenanet. We also have faced a few decent guilds both Augury and Desolation. GN, WC are good and also like IRON.

I am loving WvWvW. Loved it last week when we were on top, love it this week when we are on the bottom. I suspect we will love it next week.

Merci.

We noticed GN too.

Salut,

And that is as far as my French goes.
At the moment desolation are dominating our match ip. Early on Gunnars hold took a lead and both desolation and Augury Rock rightly targeted them.
Now as the match up has changed we should refocus on desolation.
I can not guarantee the actions of y guild but I am part of an alliance and we are willing to bypass your side of the map and exclusively target desolation if you are willing to do the same.
We tried to do this yesterday by attacking desolation in garrison when you did and by withdrawing when you took it for them. Unfortunately some of your forces then attacked us rather than the desolation keep that held the orb.
For today I would suggest the following.
We target the leading server and encourage those others on our server to do the same. Now there will be some confusion and cross over but if enough of us do this we will start clawing back on desolation.
If there are French language forums I would be grateful if this was translated and posted there.
Allez les blue.

Snort – The Unnamed[ThUn]

The golem attack is on you tube i think, we had 4 golems and a few power suits.

I couldnt disagree more. I leveled the vast majority of the time in WvW. I was able to contribute from the lowest level.

To the guys in the Gunnar’s Hold, Blacktide and Gandara match up.

Thanks for some very good fights over the week. Those of us in my Guild The Unnamed (ThUn) really enjoyed it. I know guys in out server alliance[INT] enjoyed it to.

There were some manic fights and prolonged sieges. There was an awesome ambush at a supply camp on us one day and also some dancing.

Saw some good enemy guilds too. Xaos, WC and NS/NA(I think)

If you Russian want to move server Gunnars Hold could do with some good off peak time players.

Also a shout out to the guys on Gunnars hold doing the coordinating, Dark Academic, Toglos, Synlaw, Bladeh, Metal, Flamecaller, Alv and others I have forgotten.

Some of the best mass pvp since warhammer.

Well done and thanks.

Gunnars hold, Blacktide, Gandara is a decent match up.

On the Gunnars Hold, Blacktide, Gandara match up, of peak hours seem to dictate the margin of victory rather than the victory itself.

It reset last friday at midnight BST

Midnight Friday.

Blacktide do seem to have a greater degree of organisation.

I must say I have enjoyed most of the days play on our present match up.

Dear GaileGray,

I’m posting on a guildmate’s behalf, he’s unable to log into his account himself since it got hacked and stolen.
So here’s what he wanted me to post, please get back to him ASAP:

• Ticket made sunday 9 sept 18.15 CET
• First: Response GM xxxxxxx via Email 09/13/2012 02:59 PM
  asking for my serial key and account name ( wich i allready gave in the initial ticket )
• Reply sent: Customer xxxxxxxxxxxx via CSS Web 09/14/2012 12:28 AM
  no further reply from GM ever since.
• i have been asking for an update or at least some sort of communication / answer every day since i have sent the duplicate data back to support.

• for the record: and i suggest people do the same thing in their country.
  i have filed a complaint at test-aankoop.be ( belgian company who takes care of customers in belgium concerning legal advise etc … ) about the lack of communication / customer support from ArenaNet.
  And lets say they were more than interested in taking a look at my case.
  it’s hard to believe that ArenaNet SLAs ( service level agreements ) towards customers is so low.

at least can there be towards me and other people who have been waiting days and days, some sort of communication / update about their ticket ( s )

Hacked Account [Incident:120909-005038]
Account Name: Oreilly.9473

This link also addresses some of these issues.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/The-unmitigated-foolishness-of-asking-for-WvW-to-be-balanced-on-what-time-of-day-you-play

Its a great tutorial on portal power.

I play on Gunnar Hold and we lose out at night to Blacktide.

Organise or die.

@mrbig

Go 30 radiance, pick up your + 15 % crit with main hand sword, get pow-vit-tough gear.
I hit like a truck, heal with shouts, 3.2 k toughness.

err 3.2k toughness?

screenshot it.

EC are an excellent guild, other than Potf who is a bot.

Loved the video Steveo.

move over to gunnar’s, more fun here.

I was writing this as a reply to one thread but decided to post it on its own as it applies to a lot of threads.
I love WvWvW. Mass Pvp is the reason I play the game and it is delivering for the most part. It is Warhammer without the engine issues.

This forum however is full of whines, complaints and whinges.

If we are honest they arise because someone lost.

Before complaining please consider the following. You are not as good as you think you are. You lost to better play.

When I say you are not as good as you think you are, I am not merely referring to the order you press buttons to activate skills. I am also considering general awareness and an understanding of WvWvW.

WvWvW is mass pvp. It is not a larger sPvP map. It invites disparities in fights and caters to them.

It is large scale. It invites you to get organised.

The vast majority of complaints on this forum would not exist if you were well organised.

Coordination will never be nerfed by arenanet so start exploiting it now.

By organised I mean a number of things:

Join a guild or start one.
Have your guild form alliances.
Communicate with others in public chat.

Be aware of strategy: Look at the maps, see where your needed. Prioritise the orbs and target your most significant enemy. If you 2nd or third that enemy is the top server.

Be aware of tactics: Coordinate you group movement, synergise your skills. A 4 to 1 fight is winnable especially if your in a defensive position. If your not, move.

If you going to post a nerf post or a whine consider this in an honest fashion.

Could you have played better.
Could you have been organised.
Are the same skills that wiped you available to your side.

It also may be the case that mass pvp is not for you. If you don’t want to do this and want to role a cookie cutter glass cannon spec and solo, that’s great I hope your on a server we face, you will not even load on screen before you are a loot bag.

Drink Less, never!!

Btw my solution has been to bind my attack keys on a gaming pad to F in addtion to the primary number. Its a work around for some of the loot issues.

It means I kind of auto loot bags.

I have a few hundred badges over the last 3-4 days.

Stop hitting is very reasonable. You are assuming a 100% uptime on 100% of your enemies, now thatrs not reasonable
.
30 attackers with it up would mean 6 players continually keeping it up and targeting 4 others without any overlap.

There are counters to retaliation now that it no longer unfairly kills seige weapons. learn them.

Stop channelling it.

Attack a wall rather than the door.

During Prime Time Gunnars Hold are often at the top of the points.

The server also has a lot of ‘mature’ players who log off because they have work in the morning. At midnight we lose most of out players until 5 pm. this is of course over about 3 time zones.

Argee.8396:

Easy. Your ae hits 5 people, and they each have retaliation on them that hits you for 4.5k. There goes your 20k+ health pool. In one hit.

Maths doesnt seem to be your forte. unless your saying each retaliation is hitting you for 4.5k and its 4.5k by 5 times, then theory crafting isnt you forte.

the individual damage of retaliation is in the region of 350.

Could it be your mixing up Wall of Reflection and Retaliation.

If you are my advice stands, stop firing.

Guardian secret: please dont mention that I told you this:

Stop firing, then it does zero damage.

Organise a group, Take back the map. get your completion. Thats how others do it.

use it against them, feint.

The issue here is that those who lack coodination are losing to those who are coordinated.

The solution is to stop crying and start organising.

Others do it so can you.

Simples.

damage is based around AoE: This is a sensible way to build for Mass PvP.

the AoE setup promotes zergs: Single target spells would make zergs harder to combat.

WvW is a snowball game: Good winning should be rewarded. We have oftem come back from 3 orbs down to holding 3.

Fourth, I take this, it is retaken within seconds.: this is not the case. Often I have seen keeps held without doors by a samller force with one or even two other servers attacking.

Fifth, teaming up, and spies.: Good knowing what the other team is doin is very powerful.

Pricing: Money comes easily from looting.

these matches are supposed to last a week, but it is just a constant zerg rush attacking. Seems way to fast paced for what it is supposed to be: That makes it exciting

The rewards suck: I consider them generous.

There seems to be no synergy or skill in WvW. It is purely about numbers and money, and that angers me a lot: this isn’t true at all. There is tons of synergy. Control the space, control the enemy, aoe the enemy. A force can beat a force up to 4 times it size.

Some how give players a reason to split up: This exists, people just choose not to do it. Good groups already do this.

Don’t give the winning teams so many buffs: Winning should be rewarded

One last thing, just make it so big groups can join at once: I agree

It seems that you are just not a fan of mass PvP. That’s ok.

Tip:
The way to prosper in mass PvP is to coordinate.

This game is delivering what Warhammer promised but failed to. Mass Pvp is great fun. It rewards the coordinated, cooperating server and groups.

Yes the fights have been very good.

It seems the match up in approaching balanced.

It seems that of the 3 servers , none has a nighttime team f note.

Blacktide night time does seem to be 4 hours before the others though as they have a high russian population.

This seems to balance out as they also seem to go to bed.

On Gunnar’s there is a significant logout as midnight approaches on weekdays.

This problem still happens with an SSD.

The issue is with how the rendering was coded.

8 golems need an awful lot of supply.

Hold the supply, there is none of it on the auction house.

Good post.

- Insanely long queue times. True, a small incremental rise in population cap might help this.

- Enemy zergs phasing in / taking 15-20 seconds to load on-screen is terrible. This for me is by far the most annoying feature.

- Skill activation lag. Also incredibly annoying.

- Zerg v Zerg. Curently, WvWvW should be renamed ZvZvZ. I disagree with this strongly a coordinated group can overcome being outnumbered by clever play and use of terrain. I actually think they have done quite well in making a coordinated force as strong as a larger force.

- Low levels should not be in WvW. I jave seen many lower level players contribute well in WvW. It is a great feature that they can get in at any level.

- Guilds without “Art of War” boosts activated should not be able to claim keeps and towers. Perhaps we need a means of prioritising who claims a keep?

- Game crashes / disconnects should not make you have to re-queue for WvW when you log back on. Great Idea

- Players “hacking,” exploiting, and using third party programs to cheat. I have seen no evidence of this yet but stopping cheating is important.

- It’d be nice if each server Battleground map were unique, Maybe, it’s a apin to call targets when they all have similar yet different names. Also mirrored maps mean there is no advantage to one side.

- Finally, give us a true reason to COMPETE in WvW, They have its called winning.

We spent yesterday fighting the Russian guild Xaos. I hope some of their members come across this and translate it.

I just wanted to say well played. It was very hard to take your keep and you play was well coordinated and among the best we have faced yet.

KinkyWarrior.1879:

IFor E.g. Song , NDA, Oath, Yijo(?) members using the jumping puzzle in the borderlands (Blacktides) as a ‘rebel cave’, striking out and taking Woodhaven and surrounding camps simply to annoy them for a bit, before swooping down and taking Ascension Bay by busting in through the northern gate, picking up some Ban members, initiating Dolphin mode through the water and killing the lord with nout resistance.

Thanks we will look for them doing this.

Yous sincerely,

Gunnar’s Hold