Guild Wars 2

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evilapprentice.6379:

Stealth.9324:

Fear can be removed but I don’t think anyone will waste a Stun Breaker on that 2s Short duration unless they are in dye situation.

With Updraft, I believe as soon as you hit the floor, hit Stability Skill or Teleport away, you can get up straight away.

That is unfortunately not how it works. If you shadow return from an Updraft, you will port back…to be “stunned” for the normal duration of the ability in a different place.

Try to move around to see if you can.I think this is a bug and it happened quite often.What happened is when u get launched by Updraft and teleport away,it appear on the screen that you are down but if u are moving,you will still move While seeing yourself face on floor.Pretty funny but give it a try.

Deathgrin.8416:

And all those points together make a OP ele.

Why people,whether just pure coincidence or on purpose that,Eles is intended Jack of All Trades but Master of None…

If they want practicing, you can nicely ask them can I join in and have fun with them.if you don’t want to, that is ok and leave. It is not really their fault for doing so caused Anet give no option to duel server nor private Server. I often don’t turn people down when they join in but ask them nicely, we are dueling, pls no interference. However, by watching them duel, you can actually learn a lot,either which the class u are playing or the class you may against in the future which you will never get in big team fight. Treasure those moment to polish yourself xD

ahuba.6430:

Caffynated.5713:

ahuba.6430:

except even if the ele doesnt have all bunker traits and bunker amulet he still outlives everybody.

Not sure if serious… but just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxzJGgox_E

a semi bunker ele can dishout 3/4 k fire 3 and 4, 4/5k fire grab, 7 k churning earth….

A “semi bunker ele” whose main stat is power, and has ~50% +crit damage (glass canon level), can deal that kind of damage using long cooldown abilities (45 seconds on fire grab) on about one in three attempts against a glass canon who invested nothing in defense.

Is that really the argument you’re going to go with? Seriously?

Seriously?

i dont think you can dismiss my arguments when your argument is a youtube video of a facepalm. maybe i exagerated on numbers(people tend to exagerate while argumenting) but even if its just 3k crit burning speed and 2k ring of fire 5 k churning earth its still too much aoe for a spec with great access to healing protective boons etc etc everything i already said.

He means that the opinion you give out is worth “Facepalm”.. Anet has decided that “Eles is a Jack of all Trade but Master of None”. No, we can’t deal as much dam as War, not as tanky as Guard, not as bursty as Thief or Mesmer , not untouchable as Ranger, not as much condition as Enginner or Necro,

I truly belive you have seen some Eles smashing all their skill of all attunement as soon as they are off CD, have you not? And Do you really have Trouble dealing with them? If u do, I question ur ability to understand the class, no offence though, just that you are not experience yet but skill come with time and pratice

It is like you ride a car, a Manual Car. Ok you read the manual, a guild how to start the car up and running, you jump on a car and you expect to race straight away. Only playing a long time with Eles, you develop a skill called Muscle Memory, you do thinng without even think about it,same with driving manual car for a while.

I did create a Warrior. However,in my opinion if u are new to the class and you want to build into Berzerker straight away which has no room for error, if I say it is ur fault should be fair enough. All class need time to learn, practice and adapt.

Fear can be removed but I don’t think anyone will waste a Stun Breaker on that 2s Short duration unless they are in dye situation.

With Updraft, I believe as soon as you hit the floor, hit Stability Skill or Teleport away, you can get up straight away.

On that, I agree. Bugs ruin a whole experience on playing.

@ahuba:

Ah Yes, I do get it but No I don’t agree with you.

_Dam Dealers: Put it simple, A bike Run at 40km/h and a Truck run at 40km/h, both will hit you, I ask you who hit Harder?

_Semi Bunker = Equivalent Survival and Dam Deal. They are good but not Great or Excel At. And you forget that Anet definition of Eles" Jack of All Trades", Good but Not Great and No way Near OP

_Huge rooms for Error in All Variation of the Build: Eh?? No, thank you. I wish for it though. Hugh Rooms for Error, try to play Bunker with your class and you will get the same result. In All Variation of the Build? Pls try this specs : 30/30/0/10/0 and tell me how long you survive

And that is what we called Diversity. If everyone is the same, the game will become so boring. Think about what happened if everyone is the same? Same thing happened

@Luthan “I think ele is op cause everyone says so. Also mesmer is op cause they have been op all the time since release and thief are op cause you need to spam only heartseeker to farm the whole enemy team 1 vs 5(edit: according to others… never tried and I’m a noob so I just believe what the other pros are telling me)” How about “Hey, most of the scientist aprroved that the Sun moving around the Earth and you believe it just because most of them said so?” Sorry if I have offend you.

I agree that Eles is in a Good Place but No Where is OP like most people complaining.

@ahuba:
-Best pblank AOE Dam : No comment on this because I think the roles of Eles that Anet want is to soften a number of Mobs for the pt to kill and plus I don’t know any other class that has AOE as many as Eles does. But, since that is our roles and Anet does not give us so many Option for Solo Skil, so we have no choice but to adapt it. The action Anet should be taken is to give other class some AOE, not Nerf AOE dams.

-Best Boons Sharing: Anet has designed Eles to be as Support Role. What else can we do as Support role with no Boon Sharing? And I think Engineer is better on this than us. Except Fury, Might, all of other boons, I believe is not useful in Melee Combat. And yes we need Vigor, Renegeration, Protection because we are LOWEST HP pool AND LOWEST Armor among all

-Best AOE Condition Cleaning: I belive only Water 5 in Dagger, and Water 5 in Staff that ACTUALLY AOE condition Cleaning, and by switching Attunement. Even so, Staff is not as good as Dagger in sPVP. That’s why people play D/D. Cleansing Flame and other Trait only applied to ELES himself. And Yes we do Need Conditon Cleaning because we have the LOWEST HP pool among all. Without it, we are DEAD.

-Best AOE party healing: Most of Eles that spec into 30 in Water which give +300 Healing power, that is why we heal so much. Read of my post about Healing to understand why. And Anet makes Eles as support role, think Eles like Healer in other MMO.

-2nd Best Holding Point: Sorry, I disagree with u on this. On my top list, Guard, and Engineer can do this job Better than ANYBODY. To Hold a Point, you need to stay inside the circle and knock opponent out of Circle, so what do we have? UPDRAFT? That’s it, only Updraft.. While Guard with their Shield Buble knock u down and give no access to the circle, Engine with all the Turret that Immbolize and guarding the Area, Shield 4. So on this matter, Guard and Engineer is the best candidates.

-Best 1vs1 Class: Again, most Eles spec for Bunker which is 0/10/0/30/30. And Bunker means to Survive more than 1+ enemy at anytime given. However, downside is, their Dams is so kitten. And by Kitten, I mean Really Kitten.If u are defeated by an Eles on 1vs1, either he is not Bunker Build or he is a very skill player. Rewarding for being Skillfully play which I find is fair enough. And I think Mesmer is Way Better than us on this matter.

-Mobility: I say Good, not Best. Reason why?Please read my post. Just a kind Reminder, with Lowest Health Pool and Lowest Armor and being Forced to Meelee, how else we can survive except mobility? Even then, all we have is RtL. Why RtL is Good but not Godly, pls read my post again. I am all ear if you have any new Suggestion on that matter.

-Good cd? You mean Crowd Control? Right, all we have is Updraft and Earthquake, what else do we have which you can think of, pls tell?

-Highest Room for Error in any class: Again, most Eles is Bunker Build, Bunker is what I understand you know. I believe EVERY class can do the same IF they spec as Bunker.

And Yes, I see all the patter you given and all of that I have explained on my post.

“except even if the ele doesnt have all bunker traits and bunker amulet he still outlives everybody. a semi bunker ele can dishout 3/4 k fire 3 and 4, 4/5k fire grab, 7 k churning earth….” Eh? No, Sorry. That is why their is Guardian there, I believe Anet won’t make such a mistake like that.And if Eles does not trait for Bunker, he will down fast,way faster than a Guard Zerker or War Zerker or any other Zerker Class. Fire 3 4K only if u are facing a Wall, so Burning Foot get all dams to you, and it is so easy to Dodge too. Just Dodge the final moment when it reach you and you will see the Real Dam of Fire 3. Fire Grab 5k Woa I truly wish I could land Fire Grab more reliability.It miss me like what 7 out of 10 tries? And 5k Fire Grab, if even it is true, you Have to be on Burning and it Have to HIT. 7k Chunning Earth?? With 4s casting time and you can;t even dodge it. I think you need to learn how to dodge CE, when he cast CE,wait for 3sec then Doge or Blind Him, there you go 4s wasted. And plus he is a sankitten for you to punch while casting it.. The most I can hit with CE on mine is 5k, and that is on CRIT

@Raptured: If I have offended you, I am sorry. I agree that War need some buff, they are just do thing easily straight forward. I used War or any other class just to show that what Eles can do, other can do it too, be it harder or easier. And that is why we have different class to choose and each has its own role,its own strong point and weakness.

Hello, ladies and Gentlemen. This post here I created to discuss why people think Eles is Op. I main an Eles, I will try to be not biased as possible to break down why in my opnion Eles is good but no way near Op.

I heard a lot of people saying Eles is so good at Mobility and being Godly at Healing Power,Dealing so much Dam, Control too much,etc..etc…I will break down why Eles class need all these.

Being an Eles, a class that has LOWEST Hp Pool as well as LOWEST Toughness, plus being FORCED into MELEE, how can we stand a chance with all other melee class?We have no Stealth Ability like Thief, No Tanky as Guard or War, No making clone ability as Mesmer, No KB control as Engineer, No Pet protection as Ranger,No Second Health Pool as Necro,so again, how do we survive? Anet has done a good job to come up with a solution, MOBILITY. The reason why we are so good at Mobility is because we NEED it.With all the reason I have stated, I don’t think Good mobility,not OP, is too much to ask for. And I think the only good Mobility we have is Ride The Lightning as people marked GODLY. Please take note that while in the FULL duration of RTL, we are NOT able to use any skill AT ALL, and can be Immobilized, and taking Dam as normal.

Eles is so kitten good at Healing Power, I agree. Why is that? Because we Spec for it!!! With 30 in Water that give +300 Healing Power, I believe that makes sense. Question to all QQer, why not try to give 30 in ur Healing Trait, I believe u will heal as much as us, or maybe even better. And why do we have 30 pts in Water Trait?It not like we want to but because we have to. Except for Air, Water,Arcana, ALL our other trait is useless, or Require to be in ONE attunement to get Effective. I know that u guys all know that Eles is a Jack of all Trade, so sitting in ONE Attunment is asking for a Deathwish. Being Lowest Health Pool among all + Lowest Toughness, Healing is the only way we can survive plus Good Mobility. We can;t take extreme Hit like Guard or War,All our Def comes from Active Dodge and Healing. I would be Happy to be LESS Healing If ANET agree to give Eles SAME Toughness and HP Pool as Other Class.

Did I forget to Mention we CAN’T Swap Weapon as other Class, and choosing D/D forced to be in Melee FOREVER? Oh pls don’t mention with Focus or Scepter, they are just so NOT VIABLE.

“ kitten Cantri kitten o OP!!!” With all our Utilities being so Crap. (Arcane Speel deal Kitten Dam, Conjure Weapon block all our Skill and if u want to get access, u have to give up the Weapon, Pet is so Squishy, Signet is just Ah….) So CAntrip is The Only Way to go. Less Cantrip using is always what I WISH for, but if all our other skill being just as Good As Cantrip, I am Happy to do so.

“Mistform”, Free Godly Escape Card.. By using Mist Form, we are Unable to use any of our skill. Unlike Endure Pain like War or Shield Bubble like Guard, Blurred Frenzy as Mesmer,etc.. If u see us using Misform, why not give urself a 3s Break since you know we are UNABLE to do anything?

“Deal too much DPS”, I belive the only Trait we have access to which give us Power is Arcane Swap and 2% Extra Dam Per Boons in Water Trait, Furry on Air 1. Might? Yeah, we are already Low on Power, Might does not give us much extra Dams. 2% Extra Dams per Boon, on other class, they have +10% Dam OUTRIGHT, to be Equal to that Trait, we have to Stack up to 5 Boons, and yeah I agree that Eles is Good at Stacking Boon. However, I don’t think we will NEVER be able to get more than 6 Boons. +12% Extra Dam on an already LOW Dam, is not a big deal either. Just like 12% of 100 is not as much as 10% of 1000, anyway, you got what I mean. Furry which give you 20% Crit Chance, and Crit Chance give u access to Crit Dams. I hardly see any Eles Specs 30 into Air, or Use Runes that give a lot of Precision (Runes of Eagle for Exps). So as 0/10/0/30/30, assume I use Runes of Eagle, which give me 25-30% of Crit Chance. Crit Dams is decided by Power.Again 30% Crit Dam of 1000 Power is not as hard as 30% Crit Dam of 2000 Power.

I believe this is not all the Reason why people think Eles is so OP atm, the list will keep going on and on. I will leave that to all other who come to read it.

P/S: This is a Constructive Post, for those who are Rock Headed, No Brain, Close Mind, Trolling,etc… This post is not the place for you. Please find your approriate somewhere else. Sorry for my Bad English

Tonight, my group had encountered something really weird, no clear reward upon completion the run on Hodgin’s path, nothing at all. Even though, we triggered all the event requirement and kill the last boss, still no clear reward? Let Hodgin die and rez him, did not work. Enter in and out the dun, no use either? One thing that strange was the Graveling Burrow right at the star (right under the stair of the camp) was never triggered,only when we came back, then it triggered? Does anyone encounter the same problem before?