Guild Wars 2

I don’t understand why they should faking their lost by having 1 D/C? What benefit does it give to them? And they are only 1 match away to victory? Can you please explain to me, OP?

Harbinger.8637:

Allie Murdock.8152:

xD

That’s a great mentality. You do realize that if there’s data that people like GW2 PvP, and it gets more popular, that it could = more resources? It’s cool though. If you don’t want to watch, you don’t have to.

That made me laugh. Probably wasn’t the best way to express your opinion but lol.

No personal attack but do you guys, Anet, do realize that why PvP population keep reducing despite there used to be a PvP Golden Age, now turn into a nearly ghost town? 3 Millions Copied sold during launch. Let say 1 Mil bought the game sorely for PvP purposes. I wonder where most of them are now?

silvermember.8941:

Kyuzo.4675:

Five guage is a girl btw not a dude. And she is smokin hot

You better pour water on her or she will burn, but in all seriousness.

hot chicks don’t play video games. nice try, trying to distract us from the real issues here.

Wrong. Hot girls do play Video games. I am 100% on this, not because they said so. Because I talk to them through voice chat and have some fights with them. Surprisingly, most of them are pretty good.

Some people just so slow to catch up with the wheel of time, are they not? What next? Mesmer Bunker is so OP because I can not tell where he is or which one is he?

I am Underpowered, o_o!!! How dare you say that in my presence, though the honour is mine :P

Back to the topic: LoL >→

P/S: My apologize for being non-constructive. I am speechless ._.!!!!

They favor all class, it just that some getting more attention than the others and some get no attention at all :P

“Keep your rage, it is futile to protest because we don’t care”…. :P

kitten s.7421:

Seazen.7415:

Arenanet is a BUSINESS….. NOT YOUR mom. They make these games to make MONEY.

Normally, if a business line doesn’t profit, it will be phased out. Would they rather please 80% of the paying population in PVE or the whining 20% in PVP.

YOUR RIGHT! Arenanet is a business! AS soon as i bought this game and gave them my money i became part of that business too. We have every kittening right to complain about a game WE PAYED FOR. Who the kitten are you to tell us we have no right to complain?

White Knights :P and go back to PvE, where you belong. Also, he has no idea what us feedback either obviously.

Cool story, so let me ask you do you know when they will release stuffs that you listed? 1 yrs-2 yrs or never? Give us a deadline and we will happy to shut up and chill kitten our head off. “Coming soon, on the horizon, on the radar, yada, yada…” , if you have someone always say promises like that, how much trust would you put in that person? Get real, men. At pre-leased, they promised us an E-sport game, after 1 year, what do we get? FAR FAR AWAY AND KEEP GOING FAR FAR AWAY.

Have you watched the leak-note yet? Well, if what it is listed in there being called as Buff Elementalist, then I don’t know what you should call a bug fix…

New game modes: After 1 years, we have not seen it. Let see how much longer they need to get to release new game modes.

New maps: It is the LEAST we need right now. And if they do release it, not broken map like Skyhammer or Sprit Watch. Otherwise, I have no words to describe their effort.

They buff class that under-performing from the start: Alongside they nerf class that has been perform well to oblivion. Nice work there.

kitten s.7421:

Stealth.9324:

“Fear me!!!I am justice! I am the law..Roarrrr…”

Ha ha ha.. Judge Redd. Nice :p. Thank you, I laugh so hard

“Fear me!!!I am justice! I am the law..Roarrrr…”

For a while, never once, the thought that some people ask for something that others have but they don’t under the name of balance crossed my mind. Until someone told me :

ahuba.6430:

What, there were alot of necros telling that if engies have burning we should have it too. There were alot of threads about it. Snip

And for that, I am truly grateful to show how naive I was about people. Thank you for killing our game. Thank you for showing the terror. Thank you for showing us Devs is listening to our every wish no matter how stupidity it sound be. I am truly grateful for eternity.

/sarcasm off.

While you are at it, why not ask for the heal capability like Eles, the access to Stability like no one else like Guardian, the ability to Stealth and teleport like Thief, the Dps dams like Warrior, and also the Godly access mode to Vigor like Engineer.

Let make Necro class like no one else business :P

Surprisingly, I didn’t know this. I will re-edit my post now. Thank you for showing my naive and how stupid some people can be.. :P

Quote from Stealth:

It was your topic? I thought I read it before but can’t remember where :p

It was mine. Yup….It was like 2 months ago, when I am raged for the patch that has RtL nerf in it. I was so rage, upset that until I get crazy and do funny thing LOL

End quote

Cough cough… Guess you miss a few thing here. I will not gonna dig out your old post again. Sorry no time to be childish.

That is ok. The pot tell the kettle black. LoL. Oh well, we are doomed because Devs listen to those who want the class they play to be OP instead those who want true balance. No wonder we have a mess state at the moment.

You have the right to doubt me Ahuba. Tell me this, is there ever in the history there is a post that said Necro is too weak in Conditions and need buff? Or Ranger is so fun because it relies too much on AI to do things, let get more AI? We will talk afterward.

Zinwrath.2049:

Pawstruck.9708:

You can’t compare PVP in an MMORPG to a solely-PVP game like Smite or League.

Period.

exactly. This game will never be a pvp game of the quality level that a game with an entire focused team on making it a success. It will always just be a gimmicky mode in a mmo that is more of a sidegame. If anyone is wanting a pvp game where the entire team is focused on making it good thus resulting in it being a successful pvp game. Then you are looking in the wrong place. Quit Gw2 and download said game.

Maybe if we don’t get the promise GW2 is a PvP ORIENTED game and ESPORT, we maybe less kitten now.

Poplolita.2638:

The funny thing is that… must of the changes brought by ArenaNet was, in fact, asked by the players base themselves.

Buff necro, too weak. Check
Buff ranger, too weak. Check
Buff warrior, too weak. Check
Nerf elem, too strong. Check
Nerf mesmer, too strong. Check
Engi are balanced. No gamebreaking change. Check
Buff Thief are weak. Check
Guardian are balanced. No gamebreaking change yet. Check

What is happening now? Nerf all those buffed classes listed above, and nerf all those nerfed classes listed above. Are you god kitten serious, tpvp community? Oh ya: Check.

More people were asking arenaNet to add solo queue instead of fixing the leaderboard/mmr. Check

(etc…)

I’m sorry guys, but it feels like arenaNet should simply stop listening to every single one of you.

Here a good suggestion for arenaNet. Make a blacklist. Time to blacklist every single one of you spamming the forum with melodramatic threads with lackluster, gamebreaking, risky suggestions praying that arenaNet will not read them.

I’ve had it.

Yes and No

-Most people don’t want new condition: Torment add, more and more.
-Most Necro wanted buff on their offensive but their sustain: Fear last longer and Duhmfire is added.
-Most Ranger want to be played passively, rely on pet but do more things : Spirit Build is buff to OP and Devs refused to add more skills because they want noob-friendly.
-Most War don’t want a stupid 100% stun-lock Monster but Warrior want more sustain, easier way to disengage and stay in combat longer: Stun adds 1 extra second.
-Everyone want way back then to tone down Bunker Eles : Eles Dps build is being hit instead.
-Everyone want more Modes: New maps being made and broken.
-Everyone want leaderboard to be reset: No comment from Devs.
-Everyone want the fight does not start until it has 10 people: No comments
-Everyone want a game PvP oriented and Esport as PROMISED: No comments.

And many many mores….. So they SHOULD start to listen to our feedback.

A simple question to those who defend Anet, please name at least 10 things that working as INTENDED with no BUGS and FLAWS. The game has been out for more than 1 years plus so much time on Beta testing, if the Devs are working so hard, then I suppose it is not hard to answer my simple request. On the other hands, I can tell TONS of lame things that is working NOT INTENDED, BUGS AND MANY FLAWS.

Thanks for the feedback, as far as I follow up until now, it is safe for me in a nutshell, to say people still going on with PvP because :

1/ Unique game combat of its kind.
2/ MMO version of its brother TF2.
3/ Fighting people at casual level.
4/ No other MMOs that can compared with its level.

I guess being the first and only one has its merit. There are absolute no other reason that i could see to produce a healthy and competitive scene despite how hard the community has tried to promote the game. If you people have choice, where a game with Combat Mechanic like Gw2 will be produced, would you guy switch over? I heard that Blade and Soul 2 is on its way of delivering.

@Decrypter: I have played PvE for a while and get so bored of it. I came to Gw2 mainly to look for the thrill of a different level of PVP that Gw2 has offered. I don’t deny the fact that Gw2 is excellent, though everything just keep going downhill really switch me off. Right now, I am just playing GvG with my Guild whenever I am called. But honestly, all those Bloodlust stuff in WvW is killing GvG action as well…

SO SAD!!!!!

To Devs if you happen to read this, please see this as a kind of survey and I hope it helps to you guys to realise everything wrong you guy did so far and fix it before it is too late.

Allie Murdock.8152:

The balance in PvE vs PvP will always be different,

Sorry Allie, no harsh feeling. Is this comment coming from you only but not Devs? If so, can you please tell them to split balancing already, because as the way they are doing it now is hindering both…

The game is done for me despite the fact that GW2 has the most amazing PvP mechanic ever out there. However, under the hands of Anet, Gw2 now to me is a complete mess. It turns me down a lot due to various issues:

-Slow PvP update: Check
-Only one game mode: Check
-No reward for playing: Check
-Punish for playing: Check (I am looking at leaderboard)
-Broken matching system: Check
-Too light of a punish to leavers/Afk : Check
-No stop system to prevent the game start when the teams has uneven number: Check
-No split Balancing : Check
-Horrible class balances: Check
-Too many cheesy build: Check
-AIs have a very important role: Check.
- Some maps are broken: Check
-An abandon part of the game: Check
-PvP population keep reducing: Check.
-No build templates: Check
-Empty and broken promise :Check
-Feel like being cheated into buying the game in the first place: Check.
-Empty and broken promises:Check
-Being cheated into buying the game:Check.
-Spamming festival: Check
-No build varieties: Check.

Anything else did I miss? I want to ask people out there who still keep playing PvP what is the reasons that still keep going on in the game that has no future?

I don’t think there are too many players playing in PvP ATM. Back in launch, maybe, but right now, not at all…When I have to wait for more than 10 mins for every SoloQ and every SoloQ, most being matched up with the same players over and overs. That shows the PvP community is really small.

The statics simply show that the PvP Community is so dead that just after a couple of game, he proceeded all the way to rank 1, while everyone else not playing sitting idle.. Woa, just WOA….

Nothing news from Devs post as usual…

You miss out too LITTLE variety of BUILDS and too LITTLE choice of mix and match like PvE. (Amulet stats wise)

Two words : NOT VIABLE unless your opponents got jumped by you, either by surprised or Stealth. However, if they survive the burst, you are TOASTED….

A well played Engineer is also able to toast a Warrior like…toasted bread :P

All character are the same in PvP, whether new or old, level 1 or 80 in PvE. They all start at lv 80 with all Traits, Ults, Elite Unlocked. So there is no downside except the differnce in Dye. That ’s all.

So many trolls in this forum.. I mean seriously =_=!!

I could not have said better. Thank Blimm.

I am well aware of my post is toxic and idiot. And I am ready to apologise to Anet for this post IF AND ONLY IF, they can be better at re-vitalise this dead scene in the upcoming patch in October.

Very well though in a nice manner, I give you credit for that. It is good to be optimistic but please be honest with me, what part or what sign from them that makes you think they have learnt their lesson? I am no Esper,, I can not read people mind, I judge people based on their action and their speech. Comments such as “Guardian not survival well enough, Once S/D thief being taken care of-Eles will be in good state,Most Eles they see only use 1 or 2 Attunements, most is fire…” can not help but make me think they are making a fool of our PvP community, especially Eles community. I don’t know how much you understand Eles as well as how much thought you think about these comment. What I am thinking about Eles after hearing such comment are :

1/A class that heavily relied on boons to be mediocre. Without boon, they are nothing more than bug. Fail core mechanic.
2/A class that has to invest 90% in defence to be playable. Fail design.
3/A class that they afraid to make overhaul of it because they think new players don’t make full potential yet of the class..Seriously?

What about Necro with Corrupt Boon?What about CC Warrior can kill us in 2s?What about Thief can kill us just by spamming skill? What about our offensive and defensive?What about our mobility?What about our Conjure Broken Set? What about our Staff as well as focus?….

There are many many problems that is going on but that is all they can see in Eles ? As much as I want to see myself to be wrong, all I can think of is these one are so EPIC FAIL.

Respect is something you earn not because you have it because of your status. At first, I give them a lot of respect, because they have created such awesome game ever. However, patch after patch, I start losing,losing respect to them. How many time have you expected the patch and in the end, all that left is your jaw on the floor and empty sadness as well as broken promise? How many time you want to see you wrong for being so disappointed at them, just to prove you are right at the end? How many time you expect the game gonna be better, just to be worse and worse? How many time you asked yourself : “kitten , the game could be better and they screw up”? How long have you raised the dream that Gw2 will be Esport before giving up?

Also, have you noticed the trend of Devs’s post? It is like a wave in the sea,come and gone. They are very active when things go downhill and so much serious going on too much and then suddenly disappear when thing starts to settle down. That is what I see for the last few month of Devs active, save for Allies.

Talking so much, but I really hope, I really wish, I really do I will be the one who is wrong this time.. Prove it to me,Anet, once and for all.

“I can say for sure that we can either they will make the game better,or NOT”, the future of Gw2 is uncertain…

And I am playing other games at the moment. Though it does not mean I don’t love the game from the bottom of my heart. We all want the game better, we all do. If I don’t love the game, I would not put up this post even though I know it is idiot, even though I know it is a risk that I could get ban because of this. But because we have given them so many chances, so many ideas have been given out, NONE was taken. So this is the very last attempt for me because I am not so kittenome of you are.

To be fair, these are the ones that win me with Gw2 rather than WoW back when I choose which game to play:

- Free to play: Check
-Better Graphic: Check
-Deeper gameplay engagement: Check
-Dare to be different: Check
-Competitive environment potential: Check ( until they screw up along the way)

Ok, let me make another example for you. Look at Phantarm, he plays Eles and he is one of the best Eles, don’t you agree? Now I could say that “When Phantarm is playing his Eles, he is unbeatable. Seriously,who?” But it is far from the truth as we all know.

- I am basing nobody. I simply stating the fact that they don’t put their work where their mouth is. They have broken so many promise and yet no apologise or any action from them to show that they are trying to correct it. It is ok to screw up. It is ok to not make thing perfectly. However, it is NOT ok to screw thing up, make broken promise, without letting us know what is going on and most of all, NO kitten things have been done to correct. They brought this upon themselves.

-it is not Ok to bash developers for what they have done, yet it is ok for players basing players for stating the fact.

-Would you mind remind me again what is the question that Super asked and why you think it is ok for Devs said that, based on new players and PvE, though they know what we are after is PVP.

-People at our status, our words hold no kitten to Anet, sure. Don’t need me to remind you all about that. However, people at their status, every comments from them could mean a win or break the game. It is normal for a peasant to say anything they want, no one care. But if the Government said we will have no more money for our country, would you kitten out?

-It is idiotic, for some people but it is necessary to make Devs wake up, and start to put their action at where their mouth is. Just like what I stated.

Somewhere in the past after the big patch, I recalled hearing “If Necro is so OP, why we don’t see one team goes with 5 Necro and win!!!” (from Anet)…Holly kitten !!!! And no action has been done from Anet to fix this madness up to now.

Anet admit Skyhammer and Spirit watch should not be in the map rotation for tournament. After removing them from Team Q tournament, just to add them to SoloQ tournament. Apparently, Anet think SoloQ is not tournament environment.

The day you see no more new posts being posted, that, my friend is the day gw2 is dead.

Bhawb.7408:

Stealth.9324:

There would be no problem for both spec, simplicity and complexity, co-exist in the game IF AND ONLY IF, people play simple spec will NEVER EVER can win another people play in complex spec. Right now, as I see it, people play simple spec can easily out-do people play with complex spec which is stupid.

That doesn’t make sense. If I enter a game with a complex spec, I shouldn’t instantly win because of my build loadout. I should win, however, if I take an incredibly complex spec that is very difficult to play perfectly, and then play it perfectly against a very simple spec. That is the point of risk-reward, higher risk gives higher reward only if you are successful.

That is what I am trying to say. Thank you for clearance. On a side not, what I also means is by playing a simple spec mode, the player should not win against a complex spec. Lazy persons should not get the same rewards,if not higher, than working-hard person.

After hearing the last StoG for September, I feel the urge to make a collection of all famous’s quotes of Anet’s developers and with the action they take that we find completely opposite to what they said in the last 1 year. The purpose is to let Anet knows how far,far away from the truth of the game from their point of view, and how disconnect from them with the PvP community. I will need people help with this collection. All credits go to its respectively poster.

I will start:
-" We don’t want a whack-a-mole balance". In order to nerf the triple Cantrip Eles bunker build Survivability, Anet went and nerf our mobility instead (RtL from 15s to 20s to 40s on miss). We want more Survivability, Necro said. Here is Duhmfire, Anet gave.
-“I see most of Eles stay only in 1 or 2 Attunements, mainly fire”. I have not seen any action regarding this comment, but as for now my action is /facepalm….
-“We want GW2 be an Esport”..Chaos meta, huge imbalance between class, only one game-style mode, poor player base, competitively players dropping out..ESPORT!!!!!

There would be no problem for both spec, simplicity and complexity, co-exist in the game IF AND ONLY IF, people play simple spec will NEVER EVER can win another people play in complex spec. Right now, as I see it, people play simple spec can easily out-do people play with complex spec which is stupid.

Well, at least, he got gut to keep what he is doing…Guess we should give him B for his effort :P

ryston.7640:

These two builds have been OP since beta, yet we still haven’t seen enough* nerfs to them. (there was the one nerf when we fixed elementalist talents and took away their spam blast finisher.)

They both do way too much damage and completely dominate the meta.

I have no idea why arenanet thought it was okay to give these two super defensive weapon sets with ridiculous gap manipulation such high damage. Ranger damage is supposed to be balanced around scaling with their pets, so normally power builds arent viable, but the longbow is the clear exception. As for elementalist, dont even get me started on how lethal eruption can be! Giving ele this over powered opportunity to hit with perfectly hybrid condi / power damage is ridiculous! Nobody is prepared to survive both types of pressure from a more focused source, they all specialize rock paper scissors and just accept that one of those two offense types will defeat them, so this mix is unstoppable in the meta.

Fellows brothers and sisters Eles, have you ever imagined that one day we,Staff Eles will shine on the OPness stage? Imagine no more because today, it has came true. Let us override with joy, let us honour today as the day Staff Eles will be reborn anew, let us celebrate until the world end

/End of sarcasm.

Follow the original thread here :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Nerf-Staff-Ele-Long-Bow-Rangers/first#post2794009

Say WHAT?Staff Eles is OP since BETA and we have not seen enough nerf to them (50% damage overall is not a nerf enough) Woa, are we even playing the same game
Sorry but your post FAIL…

I agree with you Engine is in good state ATM, no need any buff or nerf. Though, I just add to the list as one of the class that need skill to play.

You miss Engineer,lordryux.

Eurantien.4632:

Azunai.5974:

Eurantien.4632:

I’ve seen cleric staff eles push far node and decap anything and then not die to anything 1 v 1.

Haha, made me laugh. +1 for the joke!

Lol figured that would be the response. It’s happened. I’ve tried it and it sure isn’t easy but it can be done.

Funny thing is I have been in exact situation where Staff Eles push far and 1 on 1. Three kits Engineer, one of them is Nades roll them so hard…Then again, maybe I was dealing with a bad Eles. I bet that will be your response.

Zanthrax.6538:

Stealth.9324:

Don’t get your point. Please elaborate more. At the very moment right now, Eles is nothing more than a joke in PvP, ALWAYS requires baby sitting. I am not just asking for my class getting buff,obviously there are more than that but as you see, the Eles get nerfs to oblivion with a very LITTLE buff. We have not received any BUFF at all since the last 3 patches, so I just wondering. You can now stop attacking me. I ask John, not you. Thank you.

With all due respect Kaane…may I ask how you don’t comprehend at a core design point of view most favoured spvp build revolving around the scepter with current fresh air trait leads to undodgeable off the global cooldown burst with crits resetting said burst. They are only in a kittenty place at the moment because s/d thieves are quite good at locking them down and generally suspectible to this high condition meta spam.

I have tried that S/D fresh air build. It looks fantastic on paper but in application, it is horrible. There are 3 requirements that a S/D Eles need to see himself in either 2 or more of these to be able to burst one down are:

1/ They are Zerkers AND did not expect the Eles standing behind.
2/ S/D Blend in the fight and strike as a ADDITION damage.
3/ They are at less than 100% of his health and all his Ults are blown.

Here is my thought on this matter:

1/When it comes to Zerkers fight, it is matter the most who will be bursted down first. However, that is not all to it. It also comes down to who can repeat the burst in the shortest amount of time, can disengage when burst fail and needed as well as who will exhaust all their resources first, to sustain themselves when the next burst ready, how reliable their burst is. Unfortunately, Eles get the end of the stick in everything. I assume you already know how exhaust a burst rotation of Eles is as well as how long does it take to re-apply. To be able to instant-down someone Zerkers, an Eles is required to take 2 offensive skills which are Arcane Blast and Arcane Wave (both have relatively CD over 20s) which are also not a stun-breaker as well as Lightning Flash (36s) which can be acted as offensive and defensive skill, and they have to use them ALL in the rotation. While with other burst class (Warrior, Mesmer,Thief) there is no such requirement, they can have 2 defensive skill in which by no mean will hurt their burst potential (Endure Pain, Dolyak signet) and in some cases their Ults can be used for both offensively and defensively (Shadow Refuge,Decoy…)As you can see, the Eles has to go extra miles to be optimal compared to all other class.

How reliable is the Eles’s Burst compared to other class is what i would like to explain next.Like I said in one of my requirement “They have not expected you behind them or they are busy using siege”, by then, you maybe able to land all Eles’s burst on them. A competent player or aware of your presence, know how the burst Eles rotation work, is unlikely the Eles can one-shot them. The burst starts with, Earthquake-Mid LF, Arcan Blast,Arcane Wave,then to Air, Air 2 and channel Air 1. By knowing this, they will dodge as soon as they see you LF or RtL to them, and if you use two Arcane skills during this, they will miss completely. In case, you decide not to use them but bait out the dodge, as long as they can kite you, they will be safe,makes Arcane Wave is useless. In case, you can catch up with them, and successfully use 2 Arcane skill on them, but without the help of LF, you will not be able to 1 shot them. Plus, even with a full rotation burst (LF+AW+AB), your opponent must be wearing Zerkers Amulet AND the have no skill tree that increase their toughness naturally, they will survive your burst without fail.

….(Cont)

Everyone but Helseth…He sure has interesting personality, I give him that but maybe too much wild to suit my taste. Just my personal preference.

Don’t get your point. Please elaborate more. At the very moment right now, Eles is nothing more than a joke in PvP, ALWAYS requires baby sitting. I am not just asking for my class getting buff,obviously there are more than that but as you see, the Eles get nerfs to oblivion with a very LITTLE buff. We have not received any BUFF at all since the last 3 patches, so I just wondering. You can now stop attacking me. I ask John, not you. Thank you.