Guild Wars 2

LegoTechnic.5910:

@Darxio: I’m not sure an advertisement like that is going to attract new people. It actually sounds unfriendly and intimidating… >_>;

To be fair, a lot of Kaineng is fairly unfriendly to people initially. XD We’ve had a lot of problems with spies and the like, so a lot of people have become suspicious of new faces that show up. In all honesty though, there’s just too much of a “Casual WvW” presence in Kaineng for us to ever go anywhere. :p

I imagine Kaineng will remain one of the bottom tier Servers until other servers lose their WvW populations.(Which is what looks to have happened with several that are plummeting through the ranks.) Now don’t get me wrong, if you prove yourself then Kaineng Players will shower you with affection…but it isn’t a place where you go to with the hopes of riding your reputation to glory. You have to be the one to make yourself known.

I notice WP a lot, I’d say you guys have a decent amount of work to do before truly becoming noticeable on a larger and “More impressive” scale though. I’d say you guys need to work a bit more on individual strength as you seem to have group dynamics down pretty well. As an alternative suggestion to help with that, perhaps you guys should try sPvP out for a couple days? Some people talk crap about it, but I honestly think it’s what made me a better player.

dank.3680:

lol.. Me and an Envy mesmer got about 20 kills each harrassing them from behind during that assault. Was fun dodging Kains and downing Dev’s..

Just remember: Always beware the door! They are the Zerg Killers!

Allied Shade.8409:

Dear Kain,

Sorry that we had to over run you, but somehow you all gave up after we breaked your outer gate at bay, and no, we did not outnumbered you at that part, you even grabbed some land during that fight.

Your Sincerely,

Devona

It’s that thing called “Sleeping” or “Working”. Hope you enjoyed beating up doors. I imagine they killed half your zergs while the few people went and took some undefended things because they stood no chance against your Zergs.(Make the claim you want of not outnumbering people, considering the time you took the stuff, there’s no one on Kaineng then.)

Draygo.9473:

Pro is apart of DR’s population….

If you want kaineng in second you are going to have to take fergs BL before wednesday.

Oh no! When you challenge them like that they will send their entire force at you in order to ensure it happens! Just think of all the Loot Bags that will be born of such an event!

…Wait…I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!!

KwayZee.5742:

I’m not going to argue with you about it. But do you notice that we attack the server that is in second place? Because that would yield us the most points.. 2 weeks ago it was Ferg who ended up third place. Last week was Kain. This week is Ferg again, although this week we are having more trouble because Kain’s pop has dropped and Ferg has had an influx.

In order for us to get the maximum points that we can we need to beat you guys by LARGE margins. 2 weeks ago we barely won and we still ended up losing 70 points which hurt a lot.

Now we are less then 50 points away from moving up. Were hitting it hard this week and hopefully next week we will have different opponents. We will have to learn different strats and come up with new ones of our own. We will probably have to be more organized as an entire server instead of a per guild basis or a couple of guild basis.

Time for a change and hopefully that will come sooner then later.

I notice Devona often smashing their faces on it, yes. Even with the crap amount of people we’ve got now with 2 of our biggest Guilds leaving for Fergs you STILL have tremendous difficulty. Last week you hit essentially empty Keeps/Towers in KBL. Congrats, your pride in accomplishing much door busting with little to no organized resistance is noted and scoffed at. You can’t honestly think YOU are the reason Kaineng was basically a no-show last week…it was announced even before the week started most people were taking a break. I can’t count the number of times I went to KBL, killed some people, then shrugged and let them have whatever they were attacking because I simply didn’t care..

Ferguson fought hard for where they are now…but they generally just don’t care about the score. Their “Score” are the number of dead Devona bodies littering the ground.

LOL to Devona choosing who was in second place…Devona had nothing to do with it. Kaineng chose to take a vacation, and then to boot a lot of Kaineng folks left the Server. THOSE are the reasons Kaineng isn’t in 3rd anymore. YOU had nothing to do with it.

…This forum acts incredibly weird sometimes by not opening up at all.

LoL. DR’s upset that they got owned by the littlest giant? Here’s a tissue, I’d like it back when you’re done so I can feast upon your tears. Because thus far all that’s happened is I’ve gotten a LOT of Devona Loot Bags as a result of your tears, and I’m happy to take more. Kaineng already knows we can’t win…so we’re quite satisfied every kitten time we crush your numerically superior Zergs and push you right out of our BL. Will it happen every time? Hell no…we don’t have the numbers or time coverage, but every time it does happen is hilarious.

As for Zergs: It is NOT meant offensively, but SoS is by far the main source of zerging on Kaineng, so if you’ve been Zerged it was likely them. While Kaineng has a very small WvW population, when SoS comes out to play ANY Server would know it as they’re crushed beneath the waves that wash over them. SoS can single-handedly give EB a queue and that’s their preferred playground.

As for the whole “Kaineng must die.” I say “BRING IT ON!” I’ve gotten nearly 100 Badges of Honor in the last 2 days, most beautiful moment was when they charged Mendon’s the other night. The whole Lord’s Room was COVERED with my Loot Bags. Did DR win the fight? Hell yes…they crushed us and took Mendon’s. But we killed more than 4 times our numbers before going down.

Other members of Kaineng need to accept that unless SoS becomes a full-time WvW Guild, we won’t be a contender in WvW and enjoy what we can.

To quote Zizanzi:

“Shoulda Rolled Kaineng”

That goes for all you non-Kainengs out there! :p

As a note: I’m in Kaineng and I never hated you guys. :p I do find several of your members pitiful, and I get aggravated at seeing a group of 20+ taking the Camps I just worked hard to take…But never hate.

Edit: Oh! And I was going to let you WP guys just take that camp a little bit ago until one of my Party-members got attacked. XD Then I was forced to layeth downeth the smacketh downeth uponeth thee. I was the Charr Guardian with the super-cool Lion Shield by the by.

Now if only all the people who actually want to fight in an organized and tactical manner would be on the same server…

I will be the first to admit to taunting and such when I was defending KBL. :p I tried making it clear that my goal was to boot out ANYONE who wasn’t Kaineng from our BL, but I have only ever considered it good natured challenging the people killed to come back.

On Tactics: I don’t think any of the T8 Servers are good at Tactics, I have the same problem I imagine Devonas have: Getting people to listen. Zergs are, imho a major weakness rather than a strength. If you could, instead, split that Zerg into enough Parties to have them take every place on a Map at the same time you will cause more havoc in a shorter time than you ever could with a Zerg. At the very least, take and hold every Supply Camp with more vigor than you do the Towers/Keeps and the map is YOURS. Without Supply NO ONE can hold a Keep/Tower, let alone take it. It will force them to go to other Maps in order to get Supply, or to try attacking one Camp in force…which if you’re prepared with Defenders and a lot of Siege, should be fun.

There are lots of good Tactics…but Zerging isn’t a Tactic, it’s a last resort for the lack thereof.

Laiboch.4380:

Funny I looked at the score board and did exactly the same thing. I looked through the history of the match-ups and this is the trend. Ferg slowly getting worse and DR getting better. There are a lot of things DR needs to work on, but the Commanders are getting more organized and people are getting better at following directions.

To be fair, I’ve noticed both Kaineng and FC are showing up less and less in WvW, probably because a majority of people are simply getting tired of running into Zergs time after time. It’s just not worth the time to try fighting a Zerg when they swarm so much you can barely breathe. Some of us find it fun to go 5v40…Trust me when I say: That’s a huge minority. I suppose you on Devona can say “There’s as many Kaineng/Fergies as we have!” and tell yourselves that we’re equal numbers on the battlefield…but that is wrong. There are OCCASIONS when we are equally numbered with Devonas, but it’s very much the exception and not the rule.

I had awesome fights last night with 3-4 of us sitting in Danelon while 6-8 Devs kept trying(and failing. ) to take it away from us. They then became 10…We became 5…They then became 12…we were still 5….they then became 16…we became 8….they became 25+…we were swarmed and finally lost it.

What I’m trying to say: Despite the fact we were outnumbered 3 to 1 it was a fun fight(Hell, I even had fun fighting NoQQ before those Devs came at us even though it always felt like I was fighting the 5 of them alone because no real(read: skilled, just had a couple nubs with me, sorry it wasn’t a better fight guys!) DPS came to help out. -.- ) But honestly…who but a masochist would keep coming back to a fight like that?

The reason I want DR to succeed is a very selfish one, their numbers are so kitten high that the last thing I want is them to get to T7 and get beaten so badly they come back down here so one of us gets sent up to suffer the next beat down. The Servers you’re going to be facing aren’t nearly as small as we are, they will crush you if you tried using the tactics you use now. The reason you start by using tactics and such now is to be prepared for the fight to come.

Laiboch.4380:

I think its awesome that Ferg and Kain love posting video’s of their victories. I am waiting for them to post a video where their combined scores beat DR’s. My only real question is With all the l33t skill Ferg and Kain have why are you losing? Not just losing, but less than half our score combined.

Free lesson. Win first brag later.

I imagine a number of DRs reading this and facepalming. To those DR who do so and just sigh in aggravation at having someone like this be on your Server, don’t worry…he’s probably one of those people that made me go “O_O” when my level 7 character killed a full level 80. That death he had?…That was for you.

SniffyCube.6107:

Woah isn’t this crazy? Me, the guy that calls it out a few days ago… gets trolled for it by the scrubs at KAIN. :/

The difference is: You bring the trolling on yourself by being an kitten Try being more polite and less confrontational in everything you say and perhaps you wouldn’t be trolled nearly so much. I had no issue with you till I logged into the Forums the first time and saw the way you act here. At that point I came to enjoy watching my fellow members of KAIN troll you.(And on occasion do so myself.)

Siad.3608:

And this is why you will bottom dwell in the next tier. You think a strategy that saw you gain the bottom part of your borderland in exchange for half of EB is sound. Also, I know you’re lying about being ON YOUR OWN, because the only time someone on Devonas is ON THEIR OWN is when they are running back to a zerg.

Please don’t turn a potentially good discussion on tactics into a flame war about Servers… I am like many others in that I have server pride, but I have no reason to dislike the other Servers. I have my personal opinions on both(example: I tend to handle Fergs more carefully than Devs as I believe they’re more individually skilled.) but those are OPINIONS. No need to turn them into slurs.

From the people I’ve talked to on all 3 of our Servers, I believe DR is easily the best Organized of the 3 Servers with the best Map Awareness. I also believe they lack in Tactics, but with the right leadership they would be a frighteningly powerful force to behold.

Huck.8304:

This is how Fergs takes empty keeps.

Free lesson

I love you guys…Nicely done Fergs, nicely done. Starts the slow clap.

Psychatog.8246:

gotta chill bra, if your putting that much effort into the game and its still not coming out the way you want. i think maybe you should re evaluate your views on your server. clearly your goals and the goals of other on your server conflict. In fact as a devonian i can clearly tell you this is true just from the post i see on the forums. most of your server just wants to play team death match or 1v1 and have no intention of actually winning. hell ive seen ispy/war/noqq pointlessly turtle supply camps like they’re stonemist for the sole purpose of increasing their bag count, then brag about it like they actually accomplished something.

tldr: don’t get bent out of shape because of the other idiots on your server, and if you feel you cant work with them then transfer out.

While I do agree that those of us who were kicking kitten last week just need to chill a bit(which’s precisely what we’re doing by not being in Wv3 this week. ) I think Darx was trying to say that he prefers this difficulty and challenge of making our Server better, so he doesn’t mind the difficulty…or at least that while it annoys him, it’s something he aims to “fix”.

Max Castle.6173:

I never claimed we were outmanned, I was just teaching you that you can ascertain that information without a spy.
Also, if “spying” was meant to be in the game, then Anet wouldn’t be limiting transfers to once a week…but whatever, I am sure we all believe you would only use a spy for intelligence gathering as all the other uses you mentioned would just be unscrupulous.
Right.

Flag [Pro]
DR

If Spies were that horribly not wanted then Anet also wouldn’t allow you to stay in your Guild and cross-Server communicate on Guild Chat. Not that it’s -needed- with VOIP, but they’re not trying to prevent Spies at all. As for the sabotaging, I could care less if you assume I would do so. I myself have no problem with Spies on either side.(Even the Map Chat thing Devs have done to me I give props to the spies for that one because it was tactical and cunning rather than doing other lame actions they COULD have done.) Anywho…say what you want, I’ll use actions rather than words to prove my point.

Max Castle.6173:

Whose crying but you? And please, leave the anecdotal garbage for others, as you have no credibility. Oh and spy’s? You have to stoop to that? You are getting even more desperate than I thought. It’s fine. When you decide to come back from your “6 week” hiatus, then I guess we will all know how amazing you are. In fact please post when you do decide to come back. Post it before reset. That way if you fight well we can give you credit. Until then, keep making excuses for the scores.

Flag [Pro]
DR

-edit-
Oh and just a tip for you. If you were actually targeting and fighting players instead of npc’s, you would be able to see in their buffs if they had the outmanned buff. Don’t need a spy for that.

I like you…few people make me laugh so much. Spies are a part of War, information is power my friend and I use information without cheating. Not once have my spies spent supplies in a Keep just because they could, not once have they tried sabotaging your stuff. Could they? Certainly…but I simply see no need to stoop so low. If you don’t think your Server has Spies then you’re a twit, they’ve often enough tried to distract Kaineng people by claiming in Map chat we were under attack in places we weren’t in order to pull our defenders away while the Devonas attacked the place we left.

As for the circumstance I’m talking about, you’re utterly full of crap in claiming you were outmanned, and that you’re trying to claim you were is both sad and pathetic, but not surprising. Now I WILL admit the Fergs were Outmanned, we did kill several of them as well when they came in to take our stuff. But I remember last week Devonas got smashed EVERY time they came into our BL, we held our Keeps and Garrison longer than both Ferg and Devona. We also never once lost our entire BL last week, so I fail to see why you’re talking about “6 weeks”…The reason Devona took back the BL was because one Guild of about 5-6 Devonas went around taking things and noted there was no resistance so they called Devs back into our BL to retake it.

Now that that’s said: I’m not going to diminish the strength of Devona, without War/iSpy keeping them locked into EB, holding our BL will be far more difficult now than it ever was before. But please…don’t be stupid and claim we’re just pushovers when we kicked your kitten repeatedly last week. We’re losing on points…and unfortunately as more and more Guilds leave(like now NoQQ) we’re losing out on skill now too.

Max Castle.6173:

Lol. Yah, because you guys have made such a difference over the past 6 weeks. Ok..
And as far as this cool story bro, lets look a little deeper. You failed to protect your borderland ( it was all green ) so you brought a “dozen” and capped over it all blu in 30 minutes ( PvDoor much? ) AND THEN, you openly admit to FLEEING because you knew Devonas were going to come back and cap it all again. Wow, you guys should tell more stories like this., it certainly highlights the level of play that WAR and ISPY left behind;

Flag [Pro]
DR

That would mean so much more if the Devs hadn’t had equal numbers, been defending, and kept running away when we took Tower after Tower, Keep after Keep. You had at least 2 Commanders on the map, unless you wanna claim you were all totally NOT THERE!!! Ohmagawdwtf! We left because we’re on hiatus…you guys are the ones who were beat like dogs and left our BL. We simply didn’t care if you took it back. And if you’re curious…yes, I had a spy in there to know for a fact whether or not we were outnumbered. We weren’t, but we also didn’t outnumber you, so why don’t you go cry in a corner like the whiny little girl you act like?

Fergs > You probably at least have some hitting you right now as there’s actually a number of decent Devs out there who prefer a good fight to taking empty Keeps. Wait until this weekend when we beat the Dev’s faces in nice and hard, then they will undoubtedly run to your BL like whipped children seeking an easier fight. Sadly, they’ll eventually run to EB because they can’t crack either BL and so many of them know nothing but “ZERG!!!” which gets crushed by planning and careful placement of siege.

Edit: And for the Devs that don’t think we make a difference who took a break…just a couple days ago about a dozen of us got bored and when we saw our BL green we went in and made the whole thing blue again in under 30 minutes. We then proceeded to bail on it immediately after. :p It was funny watching all the Devs think they were something special for taking back Keeps/Towers so easily.

Really sad that you think you’re fighting against us…That just shows you are one of the Devs that gives the rest a bad name. I stated and numerous other big names stated they were taking this week off for PvE…What you’re doing is called “PvDoor”, because no one’s home. Come back this weekend or Monday and I’ll set you right.

Oh…and when I beat the snot out of your Zergs, please feel free to post snide comments about how it was your turn to take a break. I enjoy laughing at those.

Edit: Or better yet! You can claim we outnumbered you two to one or twenty to one! That’ll make everyone laugh. XD

As an aside, while I will miss iSpy and War both tremendously, I think we’re being a bit under-estimated. I myself almost never step outside of KBL, part of the reason for my personal burn-out was the lack of defenders actually protecting our home BL and refusing the call for aid when we’re under attack. I rarely ever saw iSpy and War there(this is NOT a negative thing, they held EB and they did kitten well there, I’m saying that’s primarily where their presence was and I for one was happy with THEM being there. It was the fact that no one else was ever willing to defend with me. -.- )

Anyway, my point is: KAIN may not be as well known as them, but we have some of the best Commanders on Kaineng, we were simply dedicated to defending what was ours rather than attacking elsewhere. When we’re done with our hiatus, we will return to defending KBL…the main thing you will all notice will be Kaineng likely having very weak to no presence in EB whenever SoS isn’t on.

Darek.1836:

LARP is by far my favorite guild to have ever walked the face of Fergusons crossing.

You have my sympathies.

ZetaHaynes.2134:

Tonight had some of the best 1v1 1v2 fights i have ever had in EB, Id like to thank the two KAIN players i caught coming out of the dredge tunnel and also the KAIN Thief that came in not that long after. It was great fun

:p Was interesting, was on my level 8 Alt so was a very short fight against my Ele. XD But our Mesmer wanted to fight you when he heard about your crushing the two Thieves in like 2 hits each.

I’m pretty sure people on all 3 Servers would agree he’s trolling saying Envy is overrated. I’ll bet he’s one of those people you guys killed 70 times without ever even realizing he was around, or one of those Thief Heartseeker “I’M SO GOOD CAUSE I KEEL YOU!” people.

Hello Everyone!

I play Lionightus the Guardian Commander of KAIN. I wanted to at least post in response to a number of things I saw in here because I believe they need to be said.

1) To Devona’s and Ferguson’s – I believe a number of the “kain”(Server) folks are simply tired and need to vent a little, losing sucks and we all know this. So on behalf of my Server I apologize for any kittening or such being so public and on these forums, but I would ask that you at least try to understand WHY it’s happening and give some leeway.

2) To Kaineng – This is a WvWvW scenario, and when you’re on top, you take out the person in second, the person in third is tactically of little consequence, promoting competition for 2nd place is the smartest tactic to use when on top. I do not believe there’s “Server Hate”, unless it’s on an individual basis.

3) To Everyone – I put in several 12-14 hour days last week defending, and I enjoyed every fight against Fergs, every fight against Devonas. When you came at us we pushed both of you back, we managed to hold our keeps longer than both servers without losing our WPs.(Though a part of me now worries this may be due to cheating with Balidor’s post which kinda makes that claim meaningless…But I will take it regardless because I fought HARD to keep those Waypoints.)

In equal numbers, Kaineng won bloody near every time, and we always knew when we were fighting the skilled people and Guilds because it was even numbers(or sometimes fighting less people!) and we needed to call for help. People responded to EVERY call for help initially and it was incredible. We didn’t have nearly as many people as you may have thought we did, we simply had people stationed everywhere and a group that was ready to split up and aid wherever needed. That’s how you defend your BL and it was great.

4) Kaineng’s Wv3 Population is VERY low…even most of the Wv3 Guilds aren’t -ALL- Wv3, just parts, and that’s a huge reason we couldn’t maintain that momentum. After a while, people got burnt out from constantly fighting in Wv3 without a break to do other things. There is no Guild responsible for Kaineng’s plight, the “responsible” party are all the PvE players, and while that sucks, there’s not much that can be done about it.

Anywho, just wanted to get my 5 cents in. Good luck everyone and have fun killing each other!

Sixpax.8360:

BabelFish.7234:

Which in turn makes the portal bomb a highly organized, tactical event. I don’t see the problem with requiring 10 Mesmers to portal bomb with 50 players.

I take it you also wouldn’t have a problem with putting a 5 person cap on swiftness buff skills as well?

Most of them already have it. Thief has no Group Swiftness, Warrior Warhorn only affects 5 People, Ranger Call of the Wild thingy only affects 5 People, Guardian Shout only affects 5 People(The Staff affects every ally that walks through it but is stationary and so short as to be nearly negligible even with Buff Duration increase.) The Mesmer’s hits everyone that walks through it, not sure about other Swiftness gains off-hand.

However, I think Portal is much better being compared to Shadow Refuge, which IS limited to 5 people. While it does pulse several times giving a chance for more than 5 people to get stealth, Refuge is only good when the Stealth Duration stacks, otherwise it’s way too short.

A Portal can easily get a group of people from one place to another without a care about the intervening terrain. That is POWERFUL…with only 5 people it is STILL Powerful. The difference is not overwhelmingly so. If you’re going to limit Healing, Shouts, and everything that a Guardian can do to 5 people…why is it so unfair to limit the Mesmers? It certainly isn’t going to make them any weaker. -.-

Love all these comments…My Guardian is my Main, I’ve played one of every Class to get a feel for them and honestly the only one that ever seemed “OP” was Warrior, and that was even a close one and only seemed to be with Greatsword build. I love to fight and kill Thieves, knowing their tricks makes it easier to counter them. Having played a Mesmer I can actually spot a Mesmer PC among all their clones easy as hell now. Know just when to Knockback or otherwise CC to deal with enemies. There are some that my Guardian just can’t kill, but if it’s a Glass Cannon, I eat them for breakfast.

The complaints about the Thief are semi-valid, removing a Target is -extremely- powerful in PvP, throwing up a crap-ton of Clones and being invisible doing so is extremely powerful…But regardless, I don’t think the Thief is OP. (The Mesmer I’m iffy on…They really seem able to take WAY too much punishment when their entire Build is based around avoiding being hit, I’d say THEY are the ones with the highest potential.)

Mosharn.8357:

I wish i could be on to help but i havent gotten much sleep this month and DR never takes a break from attacking us. They praticly dont bother with fergs map anymore.

I wouldnt worry too much when i get back we probably would have the tower if not i will help get it. Spent like 2g upgrading all 4 towers lol. Well good luck and good night well good morning now. 6 am and suns comin up lol.

:p You caught it despite the deleting. I thought it was too ranty/whiny so I removed it, that and literally RIGHT after I posted it a bunch more Kainengs logged in so they didn’t outnumber us by a lot, it was more or less equal.(They had numbers, but we won most encounters, but defending is always easier than attacking so figure it equalizes.)

Huzzah for the Cavalry! People from other BLs converged, we numbered a little less initially but still pushed them out of the Keep, and that’s when the numbers came rolling in to equalize the odds. On equal terms, we proceeded to steamroll the Devs right outta our BL.

Thanks to all who came to reinforce us…was getting tired of fighting impossible battles.

For those claiming numbers =/= Win: Devona is currently in KBL with about twice the numbers(I believe more, I’m underexaggerating atm, seriously.) that we have. It’s seriously getting old having to be on for ridiculous hours to protect our stuff because there’s NO ONE on to defend against the DR horde.

For those who feel proud of themselves for their “Accomplishments” this night…You’re very sad people. You can be happy because you’re winning…but it’s nothing to brag about taking nearly undefended Towers. -.- It also isn’t “Skill”. Skill was earlier when they broke the outer and inner gates of Hills and got in…Yes we beat them with a meat-grinder, but it was skill and kitten good planning. What’s happening now is…depressing.

Finally got a look at their numbers. They officially have a MINIMUM of 15 times our number on. Sigh. I think I give up on WvW.

RED Ranger in DR…seriously awesome fight…I think it would’ve gone on forever if no one had stopped and offed me. XD So fun, health up! Health down. Health up! Health down…I think you’re one of the best Tanky Rangers met yet.

I don’t think I’ll ever understand the logic of Fergs attacking KBL when we have the least amount of held territory…I’ve seend some Kaineng people do it too, never made sense then either and I usually have to smack some sense into them. “Dev is in the lead with more than 50% of the pie chart and everything in EB. STOP ATTACKING FERG.”

And DR is pushing hard into Kaineng trying to get our Keeps…We’re doing kitten well despite being a much smaller force, but even this smaller force will be heading to bed soon…

Mosharn.8357:

on a side note btsy is just a instagib thief/mesmer guild now lol. That salad face thief they got runs away as soon as someone hits him. lololol. Least ssitar plays like a boss instead of runnin away on every hit.

To be fair I ran into an awesome Bsty on Kaineng, was trying to solo gank us, just he ended up getting overwhelmed. Was a Guardian with Greatsword.

And about the whole “Kaineng/Ferg Alliance”….Fergs were the first ones to take our Towers since the reset, and since the reset we haven’t lost our Keeps a single time simply because we all converge when they’re threatened. Every single night Ferg attacks us, every single night we push and hold and do everything to prevent anything from being lost but are lucky if it’s just Supply Camps and not a couple Towers.

As for FCBL, we haven’t attacked there because we don’t have the manpower to attack another Server’s BL AND maintain -ANY- presence in our own BL. Do we occasionally foray into DRBL or FCBL? Yes. But that is very very very rarely a concerted effort thing. We’ve managed to take both DRBL and FCBL Keeps by Ninja only, not through sheer force.

DR is winning because they have numbers, if you think you’re the only one fighting a 2 front war, you’re fooling yourselves. I can’t count the number of times we had to fight off a Ferg Zerg and a Dev Zerg in our BL at the same time…it usually ends well, but has many bad parts leading up to that ending.

Shiikai.2931:

To the Charr Kain thief from [KAIN], i’m the elementalist whom you fought at hills, we bowed like 2-3 times haha. Anyways i’m sorry for the mess up of our 1v1 match, i forgot to tell my guild not to interfere >:. Hope we can fight again soon!

Edit: I let myself die to 2 other Kain after you ported back to absolve my guilt >: Cya around!

Look forward to the next match. Not a fan of the “Uber Dagger” build myself so I’ve been avoiding anything like the usual Daggers so I enjoy every opportunity to test it out!

Thanks for showing that Devonas can be cool too. :p

My opinion:
DR – Has individuals that shine, but in general most of them are honestly a joke. Sadly, a joke that keeps coming back over and over. Eventually wars of attrition always go to the one with higher numbers. That being said, I’ve fought several awesome Devonas, and in some cases enjoyed random Emoting in the BLs with them.

Fergs – Ferg tends to be much stronger individually. They have many people who I refuse to take on 1v1 if we’re in a serious fight simply because they are kitten good and there’s high chances I’ll end up dead. Where against Devona’s I’ll leap into a fray with 6v2 and be confident of victory(have done it oh so many times…) I’ll take the time to look through the names of the Fergs to make sure none of the kittenes I know are there first. Now…this MAY be because Devona simply has so many more that the kittenes are outshined by the Zergs, and that’s sad.

The one thing I find funny though is when people “Taunt”(aka laugh and dance on corpses) when you outnumbered the other guys by like 3 to 1. XD That’s just silly and nothing to brag about. I won’t lie…I occasionally do so when I win fights that SHOULD be one-sided with me losing. But that’s because I’m surprised and happy I won.

Devona has several skilled groups(I used to be fearful of PRO, but honestly the average PRO anymore kinda makes me sigh and just rush in to kill off. I miss there being fewer around who were kitten good.) but for the most part their victories don’t come from superior skill, but rather numbers. Not always…but a majority.

Calos.1350:

LoL, funny i hear chest bumping last two days, but now not so much. Good job all servers.
“We are United”
I want to keep hearing that, but don’t cry during the week, please, it hurts my ears when it so one sided, Devona’s, till the end.

I won’t cry, I held the entire KBL while Outmanned with 2-3 other people. Against Fergs and Devs. I died a lot, but so did they…our Supply Camps flipped a lot, but we always got them back. Devs are just upset they’re losing atm, so they’re coming in force, unfortunately, that force can’t be stopped when we have no one on. And -despite- being severely outnumbered, you still can’t take it all. So suck it.

Dismay.4729:

Darxio.5672:

Hey Dev… attacking AH for 3 hours…

We took your SH in 3 minutes.

YOU MAD?

Nah bro, but you made me giggle with your arrogance. Is everyone from your guild a piece of kitten? All I get from [KAIN] is bad sportsmanship and exploitation. Stealthing past the guards at our spawn to kill AFKers and our Instructor does not make you cool.

…You DO realize you can’t be hurt in your Spawn place right?…You have the Determined Buff, whether you’re AFK or dancing the Macarena, we can’t do anything to you. We simply went in there to have fun and dance. We weren’t the ones attacking people who can’t fight back. :p