Guild Wars 2

Organization and not random zerging OP, please nerf. If you have issues with losing fights become more organised and boonstrip if you think thats your issue.

declan.3968:

who should we support next week, JQ or BG?

You don’t need to support either, just play the game the way you want to. I seriously doubt that BG/JQ would double team SoS.

Thanks for the fights in SoS bl tonight CB and BEAR

Nakoor.1980:

Seigfried.5938:

Shifty.4985:

Seigfried.5938:

Shifty.4985:

Can’t wait to fight Mags EU
Wont be needing to chase BG 1/2 way across the map just to see them suicide off a cliff :P

Wasn’t IRON not allowed to post on the forums

Nice try, but im not in IRON anymore
for reasons im not going to discuss on the forums

So you’d rather troll the forums than be part of IRON?

Shifty left IRON due to having a relationship with Tarkus.

What, nah that was just some slash fiction that Smokee started up

This has been an issue since launch and they can’t really do that report option as it would be abused too easily

Hope you guys get some more transfers in OC and SEA, makes it much more fun for the rest of us.

Looks like the same BT unless there is a second black talons guild

Gilgamesh.7364:

Tarkus.4109:

Maelwaedd.5842:

You don’t know how “handsy” Tarkus can get, you may need more dolls :P

I don’t even know what thats supposed to mean…. x.x

What’s your thoughts on Week 7 Tark? Everyone in SoR is saying something about BG getting double teamed.

We’ll see how it’ll turns out when we get around to the matchup

Maelwaedd.5842:

You don’t know how “handsy” Tarkus can get, you may need more dolls :P

I don’t even know what thats supposed to mean…. x.x

Jaxs.5830:

Tarkus.4109:

40 is not a blob, its a large zerg. A full map queue sitting on a pin is a blob (~65-70), and is so often so big that it’ll lag you into oblivion. The below image is what a true blob of players looks like (both servers had 50+ in that fight), thats not 35-40 people.

Everyone has their own definition, but 40 is a blob to me as well, though not always. Blob is more about play style and in general there is rarely any difference play wise between a 40 or 80 man group, so most of the time they are both blobs. I am sure there are exceptions, just like you can have a 20 man playing like a blob.

Sure, fair point

Garrus.8130:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

You mag sure like to generalize.
PiNK running with blobs of 40? I’m not even sure I’ve seen pink run that large in months.
NOPE calling for backup defending a supply camp? Yeah pretty sure most guilds on our server do it…. and you do it too.

(also 40 = blob LOL)

#getgudmag

40 is not blob. It is a small roaming havoc squad. Probably good enough to take bloodlust. It’s OK, we get it

40 is not a blob, its a large zerg. A full map queue sitting on a pin is a blob (~65-70), and is so often so big that it’ll lag you into oblivion. The below image is what a true blob of players looks like (both servers had 50+ in that fight), thats not 35-40 people.

Cynz.9437:

oh the kitten talk…
be happy we actually get to fight people and don’t log in into empty maps…
be happy anet actually supports wvw and doesn’t just throw it in game w/o any changes ever after launch

what are you all trying to accomplish by talking crap to guilds/servers? do you want them to quit or something? what would it accomplish? nothing except for the fact you wouldn’t have anyone to fight and game will become boring

i am not member of any of this guilds, i am just an a normal player that enjoys wvw/pvp and find the whole drama here just silly

go do some wvw and stop talking crap, jeez

back to match up: had some fun fights today with our little roaming group vs SoS and JINX, GGs

Be glad you guys have guilds to fight, this guy hit the nail on the head.

Cuddlepie.8109:

Tarkus.4109:

Define Core; We had 390 people on the roster, we cleaned out the inactives who hadn’t logged in for at least 4 months by cross referencing their account data to the website and ANets tracking (~200 people rolling total were left), we had members who were in KnT/OnS who dual repped who stayed and were kicked (~170) leaving the 150 people who decided to move.

Calling the 20 people left the “real” core, especially the inactive officers who only became active when we left is kinda rediculous. 10 of which joined KING and 10 of which run with Vanguard whereupon the guild tag is varied dependent on who is commanding. The incident is similar to what would happen if 4/5 of the active pop of TW joined SoS, but Zorh stayed and made a guild called “Exiled wolves of the tempest” [TW] and claimed that TW never left. Looks good on paper but is just absurd as hell.

All respect to the guys who stayed, but to say the guild never left is just wrong. I don’t want to come back to this thread to correct karps, but seriously stop peddling this lie. If you are kicked or leave a guild you are by definition not in the guild.

…..

I’m not peddling any lies mate, my opinions on this are well known and personally I enjoy hearing all the rumours and things you guys spurt about us and love hearing from friends how you rage at your new server as much as you did before and this time I can poke and prod at you as an enemy theres a reason many stayed and keep coming back.

BG is a great server that you fail to see, 0 kittens given about your opinions as all you are is a glory seeker who plays excessive hours and pretends he’s good. Winning isn’t everything you failed to see this in the move and if you had of listened to me in the first place instead of having an irrational hatred for Blackgate you would of seen the victory BG would have in the leagues as I did.

Firstly, where have I stated that I hated BG – I left sure but did I go onto TS and abuse them? Did I type on this forum that I hated them? Did I move because I wanted to move personally and not for the health of the guild? The answers to these are no, I was permabanned off the forums and TS before I was given the chance to say peace out to the guys I had worked with for several months almost every night. Keep in mind I’m not the one trash talking servers, or guilds – I was disappointed at the way that the ppt went for SoR (due to wrex being in hospital) but that’s it.

Secondly, I moved out of loyalty to the guild and the guild leader – not to win, you are very aware of what the leadership situation was and I had to follow suit to keep the guild running. Call me a yes-man, but don’t make it out that I enjoyed that aspect of it. You don’t win many arguments insulting the other guy, keep that in mind.

The desire to dance in the forum limelight got too much for you, Tark?

Let’s review:

You’ve said – on these forums – that MERC who stayed were “dead weight” and that cutting them resulted in the best fights you’d had all year. You’ve since tried to rewrite history by saying that the dead weight were simply “inactives” … but inactives don’t affect fights in any way. Disingenuous. You edited your post once this stirred up the reaction you might have seen coming. I have the screenshots of your unedited post.

You say “I’m not peddling any lies mate” and also “I’m not the one trash talking servers, or guilds”. You’ve trash talked the MERC who stayed on BG on another forum, calling them “fake MERC”, “incompetent” and insulting individuals. Again, I have the screenshots.

You’ve told me elsewhere that you wanted to be “constructive” and that people should stop raising dramas on the forums (got those screenshots). And yet here you are. Again. Insulting a member of your previous guild who stayed to rebuild the community you left.

(edited to fix quote extracts)

Firstly cuds, this isn’t your guild we’re talking about and you’ve been taking me out of context ever since I started talking as you have an axe to grind. If you say you got rid of inactives and said you have good fights they are seperate statements, you chose to link the two to make a PvF argument to prop up your ego go straight ahead. If someone makes a false statement, such as “MERC never left” you have to correct them – no questions, no ego, no forum reputation. Also you conflated inactive with incompetent, which I never said, neither did I insult karps other than saying that he was wrong – he was the one with the personal attacks.

MagiKarp.8201:

Tarkus.4109:

MagiKarp.8201:

Tarkus.4109:

Neuromancer.2148:

dragon.8071:

MagiKarp.8201:

MERC never left, only a few people seeking easier shores and to win ppt war (ironic given ur post), they didn’t fit in on BG anymore.

not according to comrade kiff. he say merc left. you now say few people left. you lie or comrade kiff?

Because it’s not a simple answer. The tag left. Some commanders left. Some members left. Much of the core remains in BG.

Define Core; We had 390 people on the roster, we cleaned out the inactives who hadn’t logged in for at least 4 months by cross referencing their account data to the website and ANets tracking (~200 people rolling total were left), we had members who were in KnT/OnS who dual repped who stayed and were kicked (~170) leaving the 150 people who decided to move.

Calling the 20 people left the “real” core, especially the inactive officers who only became active when we left is kinda rediculous. 10 of which joined KING and 10 of which run with Vanguard whereupon the guild tag is varied dependent on who is commanding. The incident is similar to what would happen if 4/5 of the active pop of TW joined SoS, but Zorh stayed and made a guild called “Exiled wolves of the tempest” [TW] and claimed that TW never left. Looks good on paper but is just absurd as hell.

All respect to the guys who stayed, but to say the guild never left is just wrong. I don’t want to come back to this thread to correct karps, but seriously stop peddling this lie. If you are kicked or leave a guild you are by definition not in the guild.

20? Last I checked the roster had 85 people (all very active and I know every one by name therefore core), but sure, keep telling yourself that, by definition you had to make a new guild as well, so therefore “not in the guild”.

I’m not peddling any lies mate, my opinions on this are well known and personally I enjoy hearing all the rumours and things you guys spurt about us and love hearing from friends how you rage at your new server as much as you did before and this time I can poke and prod at you as an enemy theres a reason many stayed and keep coming back.

BG is a great server that you fail to see, 0 kittens given about your opinions as all you are is a glory seeker who plays excessive hours and pretends he’s good. Winning isn’t everything you failed to see this in the move and if you had of listened to me in the first place instead of having an irrational hatred for Blackgate you would of seen the victory BG would have in the leagues as I did.

Firstly, where have I stated that I hated BG – I left sure but did I go onto TS and abuse them? Did I type on this forum that I hated them? Did I move because I wanted to move personally and not for the health of the guild? The answers to these are no, I was permabanned off the forums and TS before I was given the chance to say peace out to the guys I had worked with for several months almost every night. Keep in mind I’m not the one trash talking servers, or guilds – I was disappointed at the way that the ppt went for SoR (due to wrex being in hospital) but that’s it.

Secondly, I moved out of loyalty to the guild and the guild leader – not to win, you are very aware of what the leadership situation was and I had to follow suit to keep the guild running. Call me a yes-man, but don’t make it out that I enjoyed that aspect of it. You don’t win many arguments insulting the other guy, keep that in mind.

Answer your first point, many times in TS when we were debating the move, twice I called you out on it and both times you said “yes”.

Health of the guild? Yeah I hear splitting it in two because other commanders didn’t defer uni or take time off work to play as much as you did. Telling the guild leader you would quit if we didn’t move, that’s totally for the health of the guild.

Perma banned from the TS because you jumped into our ts moments before you lead a golem rush against us yes, hearsay but w/e enough evidence and trying to recruit some of our other guilds to jump to JQ with you right mate, nothing wrong there.

I’m trashing you, pointing the finger at you, you know why? If Ravy and I had of said no to letting you back into the guild months ago when Ralikh asked us if we had a problem with it, we never would of moved. The guild would still be on BG and would be having fun like we are now instead of being stuck in queues the whole night like you.

Firstly no, it was more the other way around and secondly no I was in LA at the time I was permabanned so I don’t know how I could’ve lead a golem rush from the bank. Do you not remember those weeks where we couldn’t get anyone to tag up, you can’t argue that I did nothing to keep the guild afloat and argue that I put too much time in either.

MagiKarp.8201:

Tarkus.4109:

Neuromancer.2148:

dragon.8071:

MagiKarp.8201:

MERC never left, only a few people seeking easier shores and to win ppt war (ironic given ur post), they didn’t fit in on BG anymore.

not according to comrade kiff. he say merc left. you now say few people left. you lie or comrade kiff?

Because it’s not a simple answer. The tag left. Some commanders left. Some members left. Much of the core remains in BG.

Define Core; We had 390 people on the roster, we cleaned out the inactives who hadn’t logged in for at least 4 months by cross referencing their account data to the website and ANets tracking (~200 people rolling total were left), we had members who were in KnT/OnS who dual repped who stayed and were kicked (~170) leaving the 150 people who decided to move.

Calling the 20 people left the “real” core, especially the inactive officers who only became active when we left is kinda rediculous. 10 of which joined KING and 10 of which run with Vanguard whereupon the guild tag is varied dependent on who is commanding. The incident is similar to what would happen if 4/5 of the active pop of TW joined SoS, but Zorh stayed and made a guild called “Exiled wolves of the tempest” [TW] and claimed that TW never left. Looks good on paper but is just absurd as hell.

All respect to the guys who stayed, but to say the guild never left is just wrong. I don’t want to come back to this thread to correct karps, but seriously stop peddling this lie. If you are kicked or leave a guild you are by definition not in the guild.

20? Last I checked the roster had 85 people (all very active and I know every one by name therefore core), but sure, keep telling yourself that, by definition you had to make a new guild as well, so therefore “not in the guild”.

I’m not peddling any lies mate, my opinions on this are well known and personally I enjoy hearing all the rumours and things you guys spurt about us and love hearing from friends how you rage at your new server as much as you did before and this time I can poke and prod at you as an enemy theres a reason many stayed and keep coming back.

BG is a great server that you fail to see, 0 kittens given about your opinions as all you are is a glory seeker who plays excessive hours and pretends he’s good. Winning isn’t everything you failed to see this in the move and if you had of listened to me in the first place instead of having an irrational hatred for Blackgate you would of seen the victory BG would have in the leagues as I did.

Firstly, where have I stated that I hated BG – I left sure but did I go onto TS and abuse them? Did I type on this forum that I hated them? Did I move because I wanted to move personally and not for the health of the guild? The answers to these are no, I was permabanned off the forums and TS before I was given the chance to say peace out to the guys I had worked with for several months almost every night. Keep in mind I’m not the one trash talking servers, or guilds – I was disappointed at the way that the ppt went for SoR (due to wrex being in hospital) but that’s it.

Secondly, I moved out of loyalty to the guild and the guild leader – not to win, you are very aware of what the leadership situation was and I had to follow suit to keep the guild running. Call me a yes-man, but don’t make it out that I enjoyed that aspect of it. You don’t win many arguments insulting the other guy, keep that in mind.

Neuromancer.2148:

dragon.8071:

MagiKarp.8201:

MERC never left, only a few people seeking easier shores and to win ppt war (ironic given ur post), they didn’t fit in on BG anymore.

not according to comrade kiff. he say merc left. you now say few people left. you lie or comrade kiff?

Because it’s not a simple answer. The tag left. Some commanders left. Some members left. Much of the core remains in BG.

In all due respect define “core”; We had 390 people on the roster, we cleaned out the inactives who hadn’t logged in for at least 4 months by cross referencing their account data to the website and ANets tracking (~200 people rolling total were left), we had members who were in KnT/OnS who dual repped who stayed and were kicked (~170) leaving the 150 people who decided to move.

Calling the 20 people left the “real” core, this includes officers who only became active when we left and weren’t there when we needed them the most (you know, when Ral and I would do 10+ hour shifts when they were online and they refused to tag up), is kinda ridiculous. 10 of which joined KING and 10 of which run with Vanguard whereupon the guild tag is varied dependent on who is commanding. The incident is similar to what would happen if 4/5 of the active pop of TW joined SoS, but Zorh stayed and made a guild called “Exiled wolves of the tempest” [TW] and claimed that TW never left. Looks good on paper but is just absurd as hell.

All respect to the guys who stayed, but to say the guild never left is just wrong. I don’t want to come back to this thread to correct karps, but seriously stop peddling this lie. If you are kicked or leave a guild you are by definition not in the guild.

Doomdesire.9365:

Tarkus.4109:

Doomdesire.9365:

zhonnika.1784:

JQ and SoR ts are run by the same dude, but not on the same server. For the record. JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

Yep. Same dude, different servers. He(us) aren’t idiots. We know when it’s a DDOS. Especially when an attack wipes 70 Terabytes(that’s right, 70 TB. A DDOS attack on our TS wiped 70TB of DATA from the provider.) of DATA and forces the TS to close for over a week. That was a very costly and annoying, not to mention downright low act. It’s a game, that’s fine and people can have competition, but seriously when you’re attacking providers simply because they provide TS for us, it’s pathetic.

Both TS’s are being DDos’ed, not just because we complain and moan that TS went down and look for a convenient excuse. No we’ve been told by the server provider that it was DDos, the thing is that we have to be measured in what accusations are being made.

SoR’s and JQs TS are highly populated TS servers, and therefore are targets for trolls – just because it affects a group in a PvP game doesn’t mean that the source is necessarily from the competition. For all we know and all you know it could be a random griefer that will see a highly active internet community and screw with them for lulz. Correlation doesn’t necessarily imply causation, just keep that in mind if you accuse any “server” of DDos – there is no physical evidence that there was any more intent other than to troll.

You’re right in that aspect. It could be anyone. Some random troll that doesn’t even know what GW2 is about, yet simply sees an opportunity to troll, but keep in mind most DDoS’s come from bot sites that users pay to DDOS. A random troll paying real money to DDOS is unlikely. Not to mention that

A) These always used to happen within minutes of reset

B) These normally happen when we make pushes

While I can see where you are coming from, even then, it’s has to be a really dedicated troll.

Sure enough, I mean the reason why I think it might be a random troll is that often as not TS would go down at a really wierd time from DDos such as mid EU where we were fighting Coin/PLX. Sure we were fighting them, but they weren’t hitting keeps or coordinating pushes -as of what would be expected if there was malicious intent from a server side context. Although I think the more that people complain about DDos the more likely its going to happen as trolls are always looking for that attention and gratification for upsetting people; I mean for all we know it could be a SoR player that has an axe to grind. We just have to accept it happens.

Doomdesire.9365:

zhonnika.1784:

JQ and SoR ts are run by the same dude, but not on the same server. For the record. JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

Yep. Same dude, different servers. He(us) aren’t idiots. We know when it’s a DDOS. Especially when an attack wipes 70 Terabytes(that’s right, 70 TB. A DDOS attack on our TS wiped 70TB of DATA from the provider.) of DATA and forces the TS to close for over a week. That was a very costly and annoying, not to mention downright low act. It’s a game, that’s fine and people can have competition, but seriously when you’re attacking providers simply because they provide TS for us, it’s pathetic.

Both TS’s are being DDos’ed, not just because we complain and moan that TS went down and look for a convenient excuse. No we’ve been told by the server provider that it was DDos, the thing is that we have to be measured in what accusations are being made.

SoR’s and JQs TS are highly populated TS servers, and therefore are targets for trolls – just because it affects a group in a PvP game doesn’t mean that the source is necessarily from the competition. For all we know and all you know it could be a random griefer that will see a highly active internet community and screw with them for lulz. Correlation doesn’t necessarily imply causation, just keep that in mind if you accuse any “server” of DDos – there is no physical evidence that there was any more intent other than to troll.

Seigfried.5938:

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

I’m predicting 40+ pages.

Threads probably going to be locked by the end of the weekend

DKNS.2135:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

at the time of the SoS implosion BG had just received 13* guilds (including the AOL alliance, MERC, FOE, AGG to name but a few) from SoS.

*this number maybe out by 1 or 2 but it is extremely close to not give a kitten

It sounds more like you couldn’t name 13 guilds. I’ll help you, I’ll even include the numbers they usually ran at that time.

NA:
AoI: ATac (25), OnS(25) , Work(15), DR(10), VI(5-8)
Agg (30)/FoE (25) – Transferred 2 weeks before the rest, then transferred off BG 2 weeks later or something

Oceanic:
MERC (40)

SEA:
ND (40)

I’m 95% sure I’m not forgetting any guilds, leaving 5% there because it has been awhile… maybe there is some guild I don’t remember… maybe. That is 9 guilds, 2 of which were small guilds with about 50 members each. I’ll also tell you AoI did not get paid to move anywhere. I farmed Orr for 3 days before I had enough to move.

I’ll also tell you it was probably JQ’s stacking during free transfers that made the move happen, not their EU, not SoR, not SoR’s EU. SoS got VoTF and ND during that, but it was still not enough to compete with JQ. Also during that time JQ was telling every potential transfer how stacked SoS was, even ignoring the fact that SoS had lost half its NA and the only SEA it had was MERC (who didn’t always play SEA at that time) and ND.

There’s always somebody who tries to bring that move up, but when I come in there as somebody who was actually part of it, you never hear from that person again.

It was both JQ and SoR responsible. JQ after forming the mega-server went all out on us because of the bitter JQ-SoS rivalry and SoR, knowing at that time that they can not compete against JQ, decided to focus SoS for weeks. I was with MERC at that time and i too remember how those weeks went. It was daily overtimes and a chore just to try to stay in T1.

Meh, it’s over anyways and is like beating a dead horse (i myself shouldn’t have brought it up originally). I am just enjoying this match-up for the time being because of them SoR tears so let’s just drop it. Besides, BG has been awesome and i have no regrets and i am pretty sure many of the others who came as well

Just have to point out that the major reason can’t be lead at the feet of “x” server, as its always internal – if a server collapses after a peak there is usually a strong in-house element as with what happened on ET with TL/PTX/RUIN/FoE/LotD.

For a while there was a little tension between the NA guilds on SoS regarding when they could take “rest/training weeks” – as it sometimes was not communicated widely to the other NA guilds. This often left the other guilds such as AoI to get the rough end of the stick and I remember after the first couple of incidents a majority of the NA guys just stopped logging in. I remember one of the weeks that we had to break JQ and SBIs T3 structures in oceanic (0000-0400 server time), that being our home towers on our home bl that were high tier (including a t2 JQ garrison, and the home two t2 towers).

This constant stress was amplified by the fact the server had no SEA coverage albeit from ND who were one guild against the many from JQ. I wasn’t in MERC while on SoS, and joined later when DiE began to field like 4 guys per night as opposed to its old 15-20; so I can’t speak for MERCs internal issues with SoS

But what would you do if having dismal ppt into your prime became a repetitive thing, where you would log and have to break high tier home structures for around 4 weeks with no likely change? We started on like 120 ppt each night (ONE carrying the server in EB) and had to work with paper until SEA where it was guaranteed that we’d lose everything. Every night was a losing battle because we eventually lose to attrition on everything other than home bl.

BG/SoR were appealing for transfers as they had strong NA on one hand and strong SEA/EU (Thai and co) on the other – we eventually settled on BG and yeah you know the rest to a degree. When MERC moved there didn’t seem to be much of a point for the other guilds that moved to stay on the server as when a large amount of your population leaves from a timezone it is guaranteed to bite the rest of the server in the kitten .

Mirsa.1628:

I don’t care about whether the schedule is fair or not. While JQ is stomping T2 servers and dulling because of boredom, SoR will continue to get good fights that keep us on our toes.

In some ways, JQ actually got the short end of the stick.

No kidding, I’m taking 2 weeks off becasue if I wanted to PvE I would be playing hello kitty online

Fuzzion.2504:

transtemporal.2158:

Its kind of nostalgic seeing MERC on JQ

Im really happy Merc is in JQ. Especially fighting alongside the Merc veterans is awesome.

We couldn’t resist calling out “inc FOO zerg” the first night we came over. We love working with JQ, especially in oceanic where JQ has been historically weak.

Guardian survivability is pretty much unbeatable with sigil of stamina, pvt and clerics

600+ppt from any server in a “competitive” matchup is a sad sight to see. This isn’t a complaint or QQ, its just disappointing to see this happen to any T1 server to other T1 servers. This season will cause a lot of hardcore players to quit the game, I can guarantee it.

Renny.6571:

This just in: JQ has spent 7 whole gold to buy the entire population of Vizunah Square. It’s true. Believe it. #believega- quarry.

totes

CuddleStrike.8215:

Tarkus also offers 1v1s IRL.

But do you even lift?

Meow

m8

If any Oceanic/SEA guild from Mag/SoS wants to have a GvG tonight (15v15/20v20, I don’t care) just PM me in-game or on the forums.

Boonprot.6274:

CuddleStrike.8215:

Score Update!

With my super 1337 guardians skills of all the things…. coughs loudly

11111111111111111111111111

Are you trollin with that skillbar?

Silver trolls, this is known.

Mance.5640:

^

What in the name of Jedsus?

hodor

MagiKarp.8201:

SkeletalLlama.5381:

MagiKarp.8201:

It was the first super-stack of T1, prior to this queues didn’t really exist, maybe the map that MERC/FOO/WM was on but that was it, not anymore ;P the good ole days.

What? Have we all forgotten the greatest stack of all time, HoD? Nothing in T1 since then was anywhere near the stacking levels of that. They had 24/7 queues that lasted for over 6 hours every day in all timezones during a time when the rest of T1 had almost no EU or SEA coverage. But I guess that was before the time of SBI and SoS joining JQ in T1. HoD was finally defeated by a JQ and ET double team. Then all the guilds on HoD transferred or quit the game.

There is always a super-stacked server/faction at the launch of a game, which doesn’t last long, I wouldn’t consider HoD as T1 due to it’s short stint and was still in the honeymoon period of the game can never be considered “actual”.

Tell that to the guys who were in TA lol, cuddlepie talked my ear off last time I made a comment like that and it was more Condemned quitting the game due to a few reasons surrounding game mechanics (such as the downed state/Rally mechanic) that triggered TAs implosion.

Ciic.3679:

Karma train has made wvw a joke atm – no server pride

Agreed, Karma training is just a bad joke of whats supposed to be a PvP mode. If people want to PvE, do it in PvE.

Cuddlepie.8109:

JQ’s Nuked just popped over to the SoR/BG/TC thread to say hello …

Nuked.2360:

Cirus.5748:

Meanwhile SoR and BG are having a classic contest.

Classic contest? 370 ppt is fights got it.

BG was monstered by SoR and TC’s strong showing in the first 48 hours, but has had 18 odd hours of good PPT. The match is currently about 7K apart.

At the same time JQ is ticking +515 and is 100K ahead after three days.

I hope this thread is also enjoying Nuked’s seering insight.

And……… Who cares? We all knew coming in that T1 servers fighting T2 servers would mean that you would have more people in the T2 offpeak (who are there to combat the t1 OC/SEA/EU blobs from BG/SOR), and no-one is chestbeating as someone had to get the short straw for matchups and we pulled it. The same result would happen with BG or SoR if not worse because a lot of people are taking these weeks as a chance to train and take time off from the game. Thanks for the fights CB, BEAR and KH.

Something tells me that this will be the first of many locked threads

Thanks for the fights this last week, good luck with the next three weeks BG and SoR. Hopefully next time the big 3 come back up we won’t have the issues with lag that kinda screwed everyone this last week, because the ability to use skills is apparently OP in the old T1.

Thanks for the fights last night Coin and PLX, things got kinda rough when TS died for 2 hours going from SEA to EU but the fights were pretty tough before all that mess happened. Thanks for coming out.

I blame Hodor, the kitten

assasin of warr.9517:

srry to JQ for the dudes that runned inside woodhaven on jqbl they glitched through the door we said to jump out think most did

No problems, kitten happens

oPP is a pretty solid small ops guild and don’t really have anything to prove. Tonights engagements in JQ bl have been pretty fun, thanks for the fights SoR and BG.

Keep in mind that calls by only one server to try and institute a 2v1 on another usually backfires in that it kitten es off the people targeted and also makes the second party to want to spite you. We’ll try and show respect if you do – keep the vitriol to the minimum please.

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

Zenyatoo.4059:

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

what is that tom eof knowledge? what does it give? is it the same as skill? do you get traits?

gives 1 level.

do you get trait points when your 80 when you use that?

No you don’t, if you are 80 you only get a skill point I think.

SoR will likely win their 1v1’s with BG (no disrespect to the rank 4-6 servers) and will most likely win against the lower ranked servers, just because we face SoR twice doesn’t mean we’ll necessarily win as SoR will most likely be the server to benefit from this. Its the first kittening week, chill out.

Just see how this week plays out and enjoy the fights.

Thanks for the fights this week ND, TMD, WM and Omen

Reslinal.2359:

You probabely should read the posts before posting as no one is arguing for stat buff:)

You should have read some of the previous posts and threads about this earlier where people have argued for the stat buff. Note that I also said in the post that the bloodlust changes didn’t encourage small team play, it encourages more of the blobbing that people complain about. In that larger pop servers would get it for the buff, if not to split off into smaller teams – I was basically saying that it was intended to split the zerg but failed in doing so.

The massive stat bonus was often awarded to the server that had the highest population at that time, thereby making the rich even richer. It may be argued that if you have blood-lust you have obviously split up and capped the points, but often as not in practice if you are a defending force against a 45+ man blob that gained triple blood-lust due to a massive base population it is hard to pull it off them as you have to defend against that blob.

The stat nerf was a positive thing as it lead to more even fights, with the incentive to stomp remaining – meaning that there is a strong motivation for farming kills. Reducing the stats means that the fights are fairer and more competitive, and also means that killing a 50+ (* bloodlust) man blob with 25 defenders on map isn’t kittenedly hard. However, bloodlust has always incentivised larger groups, and supported the more populated server.

To the guys who are arguing so strongly for the stat buff, why do you want to get an overpowered stat buff while you currently outnumber most of your opponents in most timezones if you are facing any non-t1 server. I’d have just been happy with the points from stomping, but the passive stat bonus was always too much as it unbalances fights even more in favour of the bigger zerg.

tl;dr: Nerfing bloodlust is the way to go, as stat bonuses dependent on player pop always favour the larger zerg.

Nathan Gura.3750:

Nyx Xox.3540:

This is probably the least enjoyable match up I have been in since being on SOS. The other T1 servers numbers seemed nothing to SOR’s. Maybe they were just split up more then SOR idk but kitten . I think my dream match up would be SOS/SBI/Mag

I’m playing on a low level thief and all I can say is HOLY SACTUM OF METAS!!! EVERY guard I’ve seen is running GS and EVERY warrior I’ve seen is running hammer/sword shield. I’ve never seen so many cowardly warriors!

A lot of guilds from SoR/JQ/BG use builds that support the group and the current meta is to have guards and warriors as meatsacks for support, CC and damage absorption with a majority of the groups damage coming from their ranged. Just because they aren’t running a 1v1 hero spec doesn’t make them a worse player – it just means they use are stronger as a team than alone. Team synergy will win you most team fights, just don’t expect your standard player from these guilds to roflstomp you with non-1v1 type builds and gear.

Firefly.4165:

Nuked.2360:

OCX JQ/BG are almost identical numbers. Difference being JQ has the follow up on SEA. Without SoR this week is disproportional because all our servers are built for the 3 servers to compete. JQ deadzones align with SoR strong periods and BG strong zones align with the deadzones of JQ/SoR. It’s what makes it so competitive.

I’ve never understood how Strongzone vs deadzone makes it competitive, alternating or not. Perhaps it’s personal taste. Not knowing the outcome, makes it competitive. As is, it’s a no brainer.

Its competitive in regards to score, if anything.

scootshoot.6583:

Love it or hate it this matchup becomes MERC vs Ex-MERC.

Sort of like when JQ and DB matched up for the first time back in the day after the Rawnoodles fiasco…..Good luck!

No it isn’t, and this is nothing like what happened with noodles and EMP. Please don’t comment on things you don’t know the details of in all due respect.

Rigel.3092:

frifox.5283:

dragon.8071:

we the people of sor do no play for ppt.

Score Not From Tick (as of this post):

• JQ – 84,965 out of 249,533 (34.05%)
• SoR – 92,039 out of 240,757 (38.23%)
• BG – 96,388 of 229,442 (42.01%)

If you claim something then it’s BG that actually doesn’t play for PPT and focuses on fights/stomping. BG has the most points not from tick even though it has the least total out of the 3 servers.

From my perspective, all this indicates is that BG, as a whole, spikes its downed opponents better than the other two servers – this will fluctuate undoubtedly.

It doesn’t indicate that BG spikes more players than the other servers, as the final outcome is total points not kill count. One spike with superior (*) bloodlust gives you three points. Getting the buff is hard to get, but easy to keep – so all the higher points off from the tick shows that BG held more bloodlust buffs than any other server in this matchup. Requires good coordination and a focus on acquiring said buffs, but does not show they are any better at open field than anyone else.

Might just be me being pedantic as kitten but a high score not from tick doesn’t mean someone “plays for fights”, it means they have a large amount of focus on the central nodes and has enough people to hold said nodes.

i.e. Green server could stomp 500 people in PST prime time with minor bloodlust – they get 500 points; Blue stomps 350 people with major bloodlust and gets 700 points; Red stomps 700 people with no bloodlust and gets no extra points.

Killcount is involved but the strongest factor is if you have the coordination to hold the buffs

Screenager.7804:

great night last night, first little stint since AFTL moved to SoR that I’ve had a chance to tag up ty everyone that followed.

Props to MErC particularly who seemed to be everywhere on SoR BL that I hit… dam scouts

and nice to see RK despite them running all over the top of us

Good to see people jumping in from EU on NA servers, so thanks for coming

Webley.1295:

Cuddlepie.8109:

Tarkus.4109:

Hey SoR – I hear BG has cookies and ppt lead.

It was bound to happen at some point during the week. Thanks for posting.

Speaking of which, the post where you called your former guild mates “dead weight” reminded me of the drama around FEAR’s mid July posts (not here) about farming MERC and others. BG SEA were understandably annoyed and, iirc, responded by going on a rampage.

So, I wondered what sort of response your “dead weight” faux pas – since edited out – would cause.

I randomed with a float that some of your former guildmates were running last night and the FRAPS I got was pretty interesting. I’m not sure I saw a lot of dead weight. I did, however, see a lot of dead. I could be wrong but I think you featured at least twice.

I’ll finish editing it up this evening (ADST) and link it when uploaded.

Ahh, sweet

Make sure to edit out your numerous wipes while your at it

lel

and well done for not being able to read the details on the dead weight thing. for a “sniper” you have selective reading

everyone has taken it out of context and used it as hate propaganda

cya on the battlefield

@ Gallimar, you aren’t helping.

@ Cuds, just so you know the dead weight comment was in regards to culling of inactive members (~1/2 the roster no longer played or logged on; The guys from Vanguard are not included in this number) – as we were wanting to do it for a while and moving gave us a chance to do it. I deleted the comment because it was obviously taken out of context and secondly who gives a flip about the internal workings of a guild that isn’t theirs. To any of the guys who were offended by that comment I apologize as I kittened up, but it wasn’t targeted abuse it was just an off the cuff comment about the ability to clean the roster. If they wanted to stay on BG I respect that, the only issue I have is with a couple of individuals who continue to flame – but there is no ill will for a lot of the guys who did stay.

We’ve worked together for a long time man, and you know very well I don’t talk crap about the guys I work with and respect. Lets try to keep this civil and without unnecessary flaming.