Guild Wars 2

Thanks for the Bay SoR on JQ bl, the hole in the wall was very useful <3.

Azure.8412:

Sorry, but I highly doubt your oceanic force is 15-20. More so 30+. With militia, about 40. HIRE usually runs about 40-50 as well.

Oceanic MERC force is ~15 we usually have 30 players in total due to the fact we are the only tag on 3 maps. I rarely command in SEA as I tend to focus on the hard timezones (OC and EU where we are usually outmanned).

Azure.8412:

Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA
(TSYM – 15)
(IRON – Early EU – 15-20)

BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well (15-20 Oceanic; 20-25 SEA; 15 EU; Consistent)
WM – 15-20 (15-20; may play in NA so not play in SEA)
ND and ND – 30+(20-30 SEA; Consistent)
Urge – 20-30 (~15-20; SEA; Doesn’t play every night)
CA – 20-30 (~15-20 CA; late NA-SEA; consistent)
XF – 25-30 (~20 SEA; Consistent)
Thai – 20-30 (15-20; Occasionally raids into EU; not generally running in SEA)

Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids.

Corrected in Brackets, everyone presumes numbers are higheer than they really are considering the length of red names. You also have to consider PuGs as well, as SoR is known for having NA militia stay up, for example TSYM and having NA get up early (TW). Same thing happens in BG to a degree, I’m not going to dispute it – but everyone likes to play the underdog and I think SoRs oceanic/SEA need to stop thinking that they are somehow outmanned when they run map zergs.

Beannie.5982:

Quite a joke that BG which keeps stacking more guilds on 2 time zones (Oceanic & SEA), will keep whining when SOR is stacking more on their EU time zone. Doesn’t this just put us on par with your 2 timezone advantage? Or are you the only server entitled to it?

I guess its all good for them until they’re losing.

All these complains about PvDoor works both ways. BG PvDoors during their strong period, SOR PvDoors during theirs, and its just lately that JQ can’t PvDoor as well during their SEA timezone due to BG’s stack fiesta? All these useless complains.

Just play the game.

You keep saying that, but SoR has similar numbers of players in total during SEA/oceanic and I don’t think the oceanic’s/SEA on your own server (HIRE, AFS, SONG, OCX, Early EU players, Late NA players, TSYM) would appreciate calling what they do PvD, show more respect to your servermates as well as people who are matched with them. Half the reason why I don’t mind fighting SoR is due to the fact that SoR are the only two servers with a notably large Oceanic presence. Any other match-up would be boring in the GMT+10/8 timeslot.

In regards to us (MERC) being accused of zoom hacking by a previous poster (not the quoted author); I command almost every night and I think you need to get some credible evidence before you start throwing down claims that are nothing more than “he said/she said”.

SONG is a better than decent gank team, there were a few times they caught us off guard in the JQ/DB/BG match-up where they know how to think with portals. It’ll be good to see them again, although hearing that more European players are going to a server that already has lopsided coverage in this timezone is disappointing as I would’ve hoped that JQ could get some more EU love (only coverage was RG and they don’t play for ppt, no offense meant).

Regardless, this matchup has been close and there have been a lot of bags on both sides – thanks for the fights. Also props to XPK for not blobbing and acting independently, yet also being effective.

The matchup I want to see is TC/SOR/BG, as any matchup without SoR has too much PvD in oceanic and EU. The last time we fought TC a lot of us had a ball, let’s see if this pans out.

Medeyn.8562:

MagiKarp.8201:

Cover Girl.2580:

I went for a jog myself and found this elusive creature. No wonder it’s killed for its pelt. it’s hideous! :<

Nice Graphics/resolution, 2001 called they want their PC back.

I play my game low resolution for wvw, even on a $2000 computer. 2001 pays me well

Touche. Tbh from all of the rivalry between covergirl and silver the need to have an endless guardian duel and see who would fall asleep first.

Lorthos.4976:

Tarkus.4109:

Its not completely not obvious that HIRE has been using the duplication glitch on Omegas; 4 omegas on every keep offense. That number of golems cannot be gathered by donations or rank chests, try to make the glitch a lot less obvious – I really hope there is some way to track this to see who have done this. People from all servers have done this so far (including BG) and this stuff just isn’t acceptable.

You do realize that I drop that many omegas pretty regularly? Just because someone trolled you about HIRE siege glitching doesn’t mean you have to take it to the forums. People donate alphas and omegas to me all the time because I have a golem addiction. Anyway, good win this week Merc and all of BG. The necro and warrior buffs made that Merc train that much more painful. Much respect to you guys.

No offense meant if it was legit, it was just that I got a PM from certain members on SoR who told me as much. In response to the necro thing, yeah we asked our rangers to swap to necros.

Its not completely not obvious that HIRE has been using the duplication glitch on Omegas; 4 omegas on every keep offense. That number of golems cannot be gathered by donations or rank chests, try to make the glitch a lot less obvious – I really hope there is some way to track this to see who have done this. People from all servers have done this so far (including BG) and this stuff just isn’t acceptable.

silkysoft.6749:

Do you know what is more stale then this matchup Krud vs Joolya

This thread needed more Rudd

Warlord.9074:

I’m noticing a decline in normal attendance this week from SoR. I could list a bunch of excuses as to why that is but I’m sure that is the case on the other servers as well. BG just seems to want to win this week so GG BG on your victory this week you guys really earned it this time.

Its not over until reset

Kryyg.8576:

Tarkus.4109:

Kryyg.8576:

Is most of MERC unemployed?

Not a jab, just curious.

Uni finished a little while ago, also a lot of us work on the weekend

I think if there was an award for the guilds who play the most, you guys would win it hands down.

Waha taught us well <3

Kryyg.8576:

Is most of MERC unemployed?

Not a jab, just curious.

Uni finished a little while ago, also a lot of us work on the weekend

All I can say about tonights WvW is … AOE loot is amazing

Thanks for the fights this evening SoR/JQ in BG bl, the engagements with NYS and ATM were great with a lot of bags for both sides. kitten , it was tight in some of the engagements- i.e. bay being swiss cheese. Thanks for coming out in open field guys.

Here is some footage of the fights we’ve had in the past few days; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiVZPQ8JOZ4&feature=player_embedded

Snapple.9251:

Gooj.8561:

word out on the street is that IRON is moving back to Desolation on friday
this’ll make things interesting

…. hahaha

I think the poster is getting trolled

Xinthai.6175:

Jade Quarry = 10 characters long (including space)
Blackgate = 9 characters long.
Sanctum of Rall = 15 characters long (including spaces)

SoR’s nameplates take up more space on the screen, obviously increasing the lag that our servers have when fighting them.

Seems legit

kyro.8162:

So you are saying I have the “no true scotsman” fallacy for the fact that I can interpret certain things as QQ and others as chest thumping. Yet here you are stating “Its just another way for specific SoR posters to be obnoxious on the forums , even the TC match-up was full of the same venom.” You do realize that your opinion of these venomous posts is in fact a unreasoned assertion. What you see as venomous posts by SPECIFIC SoR posters can in fact be seen in a different sense as well. My question to you is this: If this was posted by someone from your guild, would you still hold the same opinion about it than one from me?
Based on your post, isn’t your post itself running the same “no true scotsman” fallacy as mine?
Since you considered a post following this fallacy as a troll bait, wouldn’t that make your post a troll bait as well?

In regards to falling into the fallacy as well, I’d most likely have more restraint over a guildee admittedly, as would most people. My point is that everybody has a bias, and to everyone else not from SoR that post can be seen as inflammatory, kitten are a lot of the posts up here.

The best troll by anet would to have the three stooges slapping it out next week as well. Personally hoping for a SoR/TC/BG matchup though.

Burl.9567:

Where are you seeing these changes?

EDIT: Nevermind, you edited as I posted, lol.

That happens lol, had the same thought right after posting it.

kyro.8162:

The new patch looks like they are changing the wvwvw meta. Things will get interesting in the coming weeks.

Sure they will, and we’ll be out there fighting regardless of the score and who we are up against. The mortar changes… meh (only really use mortars to kill the occasional treb, can’t think of any real improvements there), but I can see torment being a bit of a pain in the kitten for those coming up against mass necro/mesmer team builds; although its application to WvW seems rather limited as it seems to be a counter to the high mobility bunker rangers or eles in tPvP more than anything (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/upcoming-skill-and-trait-changes/). Should be interesting to see the application in process from the most competitive servers in the game.

Offski.4897:

Tarkus.4109:

Azure.8412:

IRON has to fight both ATM and MERC at the same time and am trying to hold out as much as possible. Massive props to IRON. Intense stuff. Great fights all round!

Its been a fun fight so far, we just thought it would be fair to use your own merchant and food tray a few times as a gesture of good will

Haha yeh u guys were close to taking it a few times, if it was nto for the pony rezzing of keep lords u would of deservedly had it. good fight all round.

Keep offense would be so much more simpler without war-banners resing lords instantly, but hey if you’re given a tool why not use it. We’d probably have done the same thing lol.

Azure.8412:

IRON has to fight both ATM and MERC at the same time and am trying to hold out as much as possible. Massive props to IRON. Intense stuff. Great fights all round!

Its been a fun fight so far, we just thought it would be fair to use your own merchant and food tray a few times as a gesture of good will

Shaojack.3871:

It did feel like a bigger struggle back then =D
Other than these forums, I mostly love this match up.
All 3 servers have their bad eggs. We got someone on SoR raging about something and breaking all our golems right now… not like we can kick him out =(

QFT on this one, all servers have their village idiot/troll/whelps and sometimes it’d be great to have a /teamkill or a /serverkick for these guys. If they are being loud obnoxious brats in map chat, they have the freedom to say whatever they want but you also have the freedom to press the mute. In respect to the forums I think people need to develop a thicker skin, I mean one guy from SoR making a sneering remark is one guy and probably doesn’t reflect the communities outlook. One or two guys from BG crying 2v1 does not mean that the server are huddled little children crying, wrenching teeth, tearing at clothes etc. Take everything you read here at face value, its the internet – everyone is a troll to the other side, and a forum warrior to thier own.

About the golems, well yeah that happens and until there is a fix theres nothing anyone can do about that. Maybe a way of fixing it would be instating personal ownership of the golem by the placer, similar to every other piece of seige in the game, but hey sorry to hear about that.

Just glad we’re not blue again this week

This would happen every 30 min or so yesterday when I commanded for no apparent reason. Apparently it was due to a dropout from the login server but it was completely nonrelated to the local internet connection.

Thanks for the fights this week JQ and DB, DBs SEA is great at keeping you honest in open field. Props to AT,Re and SONG; it’ll be great to see you guys in a future matchup

Massive props to AT (Break into), even though I understand you didn’t have massive numbers (My guess was ~ 25) you are a lot better than a lot of guilds we’ve seen in this matchup – thanks for the fights.

Love to see the new/old faces and SEA should be effing insane, looking forward to the next week

Fuzzion.2504:

Predictions for who we fight next week?

The matchup I want to see is DB/JQ/BG, but the pessimist in me thinks thakittens going to be BG/SOR/JQ

pot.6805:

People really worry about emotes and them come on the forums to complain about them?

Yes

If anything, SoR has more emote spammers and I usually tell guys off if they do that because it is pretty douchy. I prefer to tell people to bow if we’ve had a good fight, but emote spamming is usually done by a handful of individuals from all servers.

Sacrx.6721:

How is US t1 now?. Any guilds actually running in 20-30 man or is it all on 1 commander 24/7 60-100 man blobs all week?. Making usual excuse for being bad its not gvg its wvw… From reading first few pages seems fair few guilds interested in some GvG. How are the EU hours?. How is the lag etc?.

Lag is not a massive issue out of EB unless all maps are queued and chucked in one spot, GvG is sporatic and exclusively in NA primetime. EU is pretty dead for two of the three servers meaning that it is mostly PvD for the late SEA and EU players on SoR (60 man float team, scouts and a stable EB pop), whereupon JQ has no large EU presence and BG has RK (15-25; medium sized) and MERC (5-15; late SEA; Can be ~25 if making a final push) who play during EU.

Raven Paradox.1860:

Tarkus.4109:

wtb tactical nuke to kill AC’s though

Why would you want that when you’re in MERC?

We only use carts when we’re outnumbered 2:1 or if we’re not on the map. Everyone uses carts, get over it – its just a disappointing change in the meta.

wtb tactical nuke to kill AC’s though

SykkoB.9465:

I know its hard for some to get but a lot of ppl run group base builds and not solo I know I run a group base warrior spec and my 1 v 1 hurts cause of it. I still fight if I get jumped tho have had lots of good 1v1 with ppl from jq and bg and have sent them invites to my group to give them probs or say gf

This happens to a lot of the more organised WvW guilds, as they all run group synergy builds and solo they are basically, well screwed. Before they removed titles I’d get some duellists from JQ wanting to fight due to the tpvp title, but seriously WvW isn’t the place for 1v1’s as it is designed about what you can do for your team and not by yourself. In following with that a lot of players may have bad builds for duels, because seriously how is my staff healer supposed to win a 1v1 with skilled champion shadow who is a condi thief.

You can’t blame TW, Choo, FoO, KnT or any of the other strong guilds out there for being weak 1v1 – because that isn’t thier focus.

Ardon.4105:

kyro.8162:

BG (Stole this list from Jahn) RESO (?-?)

I’m surprised nobody asked who RESO actually is? I’ve never heard of any guild of that name on our server. We do have a [Res], for Resonance, but they’re Oceanic.

Anyways, I can confirm RIOT’s statement. If you don’t see the rest of them, you’ve already lost.

They’re oceanic and PvX, most of the members have left the game due to it not being as first expected I only see a couple in WvW at any time. Most of the BG listings are pretty falacious, I mean seriously LotD is a Oceanic guild? They are north american with some Oceanic members.

Fun fight, lets do it again some time

DeWolfe.2174:

After looking at the Maps for the first time today I’m now thinking, why? Why are JQ and BG attacking each other?

Maybe it’s just me but, this week should be a full on 2 v 1 against SoR. They have been literally, asking for it! Let’s bring it!!!!!!

Down with that, just try and tell JQ that lol

The problem with statistics is that higher probability match-ups happen more regularly, who’d have figured? Math can be a kitten sometimes right? See you guys on the field.

fade.8603:

Can’t believe someone actually blamed JQ/BG when their TS is down… srs or joking?

There are tin-foil hatters in every crowd, don’t think too much of it

I really want a DB/JQ/BG matchup and see who would get double teamed

Don’t put your tag on a ranger as it is probably the weakest class in WvW within a zerg even if run the broken beastmaster builds that are viable 1v5. You will be focused to the high heavens, and as a commander you have one job – that is to stay alive while giving directions. Ranger is a poor choice due to its low survivability.

snownow.9352:

This is a new experience without sieges.

Everyone came out the gate and ac, just fight.

Used terrain or portal or some tactics on open field battle.

It’s so exciting! I love it!

To be honest I welcomed the bug a little bit, as I am getting sick of playing AC wars and last night forced people to fight in open field and to have more actual PvP as opposed to PvAC. Props to IRON and ATM last night, you gave us some pretty great fights – no chest beating here, but just thanks for meeting us on the field.

I think the AC meta kinda got out of hand, and it would be great if they limited it to keeps in fixed locations like mortars, cannons or oil because it stops a force putting 12 arrowcarts on the north gate of hills (cough, we might’ve done this at some point as well).

fade.8603:

It’s hard to miss waha, big bald bad norn.

Just don’t mistake him with the bald norn warrior doppelganger, we’re onto you Faha (fake Waha) ;D.

Transfer to a less stacked server instead of complaining

Solori.6025:

pot.6805:

LetoII.3782:

pot.6805:

Score update lul

Notice the locale of said score update.
Gave me a chuckle

Yup HoTM. The fastest place to load in and out of the game or wvw.

You know I really want to see the day when Pot and Kettle post in the same thread

Thats original

Masamoon.3864:

NYS had internet provider issues for two weeks is the main reason of their absence actually. SYN said they disbanded a few weeks back though, i’m not even sure if MORD is big since i’ve never heard of them other than this Cover Girl character.

I’m pretty sure covergirls minion master necro constitutes a MORD zerg

Irish Cowboy.4153:

They face Merc, ND, Foo, ATM….and they don’t give up and transfer off like ND did.

ND didn’t transfer off BG, their main commander is taking a break due to school. RL > Video games

Carica.4729:

How did you get the ramps at that position (see screen below)?
I thought ramps are physically not designed to hover.

You can do it by placing the center of the reticule on the wall, it bypasses a lot of haze attempts and Arrowcarts (also its funny as hell)

Zagan.5287:

being blue is the kittentiest color to be in eternal battlegrounds, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW.

Yeah, its the weakest position due to the fact that it has multiple destructible walls and if you get the deep towers its practically gg if you cart it to the high heavens. In addition to that, if each server is playing for first they have to focus blue, acknowledging the fact that this is indeed happening, I don’t mind the 2v1 all that much as while the ppt hasn’t been the best we’ve at least had a few really good even-numbered fights.

I got over 1500 kills tonight alone from a few hours, and a guy got a precursor from wiping the SoR map zerg in Langors – while it would’ve been great for another force to make headway in another map, at least we got our daily kill quota up. Thanks for the fights, and I’ll see you tomorrow night.

The SoR on EB, you really like QL don’t you