Massive BG zerg in EB right now, I’m seeing about 80BG consisting of pugs with a MERC core. Seems like BG is focusing all its forces in EBG to defend their keep. Some sick fights going on in there.
Fighting against 80 JQ and just as many SoR is pretty fun tbh, sometimes the fiercest fights are when you have your back to a wall. Although EB lag is a pain in the kitten , its a good reminder of why we stick to the borderlands lol. Thanks for the fights regardless.
And its 52, not 80 <3
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Just so BG/SoR know, JQ claimed in their last matchup that the only reason they’re not T1 is because BG and SoR 2v1 them every time. Maybe it’s time to show ’em who da boss
I know you’re just kidding around and teasing them, but JQ is really a very good fighting server. Other than us (BG), I honestly believe JQ can beat SoR if we weren’t around because our NA crew don’t push SoR as much as our SEA crew.
IMO, BG is the smartest most strategic WvW server, SoR is the biggest with the most people, but JQ is the best pure fighting WvW server I’ve come across.
For the sake of argument, what is the best fighting guild on JQ?
ATM is probably the best on field guild on JQ
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
@ Oeps, I wasn’t saying 60 IRON, it was in reference to when I commanded against a IRON + 20-30 PuG zerg in early EU during the last reset weekend. I had a chat with star via PM so no disrespect meant except outside of forum trashtalking which means jack kitten anyway. I have a lot of respect for IRON in-game, but the forums are another thing.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
I didnt mean 4 time zones, i meant 4 zones as in EB, and 3 BL’s. I agree with the rest of you post, and kitten you for making me post something sensible on here -_- I promise you it wont happen a second time.
Meh, we have to do the same in Oceanic and early EU as being to only organised force on 4 maps (meh, late nights lead to those kinda kitten s). I’m sorry about forcing you to make a respectable post, I’ll try not to get one out of you again.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Tarkus we all know that IRON is one guild, ok we have around 4000 members total but one guild cannot control 4 zones, which is why one guild cannot control the overall ppt. Plus we win more fights than we lose so whats that saying about your guilds? (and dont try using the numbers argument, as we are very often outnumbered)
When did I say that you were supposed to look after 4 timezones, I was calling you out for randomly trash-talking about how the ppt goes in your favour when you play outside of your primetime with significant numbers. I recognize that IRON is a great guild in regards to open field, as you rarely wipe in your primetime – however we rarely wipe in ours either when it is relatively equal numbers. So the crap-talking is pretty funny, as I have seen IRON run 60+ people as well – we blob sometimes as do you; its how the game is.
What can be agreed upon is whenever any single guild does overtime the ppt usually works in their favour, it happens with IRON, happens with MERC, and happens with TW/FEAR when they go into oceanic. It shouldn’t be something to complain about, but its a sign that people are willing to put in the effort for their server.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
I am so looking forward to the next wipe of every IRON GvG that can be found out about……
As for you Shifty, you fail at overtime given how much overtime many of your SoR guilds did put in. Frustrating to still lose, huh? Opps, my bad, waiting for the incoming liez concerning “we do not do overtime….we never get wiped” garbage……=.=
We did a little bit of overtime this week but thats only our eu (IRON) helping SEA out unlike your overtime where you go into every pve zone possible and spam to get into wvw on your STRONGEST timezone.. kinda pathetic tbh, showing how weak MERC are
When we do overtime into EU SoR usually has lowest ppt, which is one of SoRs strongest timezones – shows how weak IRON is. Overtime in whatever fashion usually peaks the ppt in your favor, get over yourselves and I’m sure that overtime at the introduction of a PvE event surely didn’t have a negative effect on a server that didn’t do a CTA.
Seeing that you’re keeping it classy with the random insults
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
If MERC didn’t blob from one map to the next, there would be less door for us to player.
Dat 30 man blob, I could supply a few screenshots of how many people we had in every engagement. We don’t rely upon having large numbers, but you can’t say bugger off to the militia who goes to the only organized force on 4 maps.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Rigel we are not playing for PPT, the score is obviously BG struggling having to fight people instead of PvD (so much for your advanced tactics lol) and IRON and TW never wipe, just because we change direction and you catch our tail it doesnt mean its a wipe.
Cod, I didnt withdraw it, it was sarcasm, if you cant grasp that from my reply, is it any wonder why the people with authority dont think to include you in decision making?
So technically if a thief slips away and doesn’t die it isn’t a wipe. By the same definition a lot of other guilds never wipe either – and I know HIRE used to say they never wiped ever. Both claims are just as unlikely to be correct. You can only say that a guild has fully wiped if you know for a fact that every member has died – which never happens, therefore making the statement that “x guild never wipes” is a meaningless statement.
Everyone wipes at some point, get over it.
The PvD statement is pretty funny considering that was all that OCX, GC, XPK and SoR OC were doing tonight, as when you would engage them and they would run most of the time even if you had equal numbers and would only engage openly if they obviously had the numbers advantage. Regardless, the fights have been great and I didn’t care too much about the score tonight as the stress of fighting multiple 25+ zergs on the multiple maps is part of the fun.
*feeling dirty for saying 25+, silverstrikes going to have a field day
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Would say we copied your sea/oceanic’s but they cant even take a T3 keep in their pvdoor time :P
You don’t play much oceanic don’t you, it is never PvD. If OCX, HIRE and all the american night owls in thier 40+ man blob are doors sure we PvD. You don’t get leading ppt by having zero coverage.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Not all servers are interested in fighting the BG blobs all the time.
JQ got sick of it, TC is sick of it. Honestly, SoR would probably be sick of it if they weren’t used to it from T2 and is mostly full of stubborn diehard people.
But BG finally got what they’ve always wanted, un-competitive wins.
People on SoR are sick of it too… don’t think we aren’t.
It’s only uncompetitive if you don’t turn up
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Stop calling zergs “map zergs”; you don’t know how many they have on the map firstly and secondly 3 people on a map can be called a map zerg if you have 3 people on the map. This applies to everyone, especially my servermates.
INC ALL OF THEM 1+
Inc 1+ boot to glute
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Stop calling zergs “map zergs”; you don’t know how many they have on the map firstly and secondly 3 people on a map can be called a map zerg if you have 3 people on the map. This applies to everyone, especially my servermates.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
I seem to be missing the “quote” widget so I’ll make this a standalone.
The problem SoR faces vs BG as far as ppt goes it that of mismatched primetimes. The bulk of BG’s players are online when most of SoR’s are not. I’m don’t know why there isn’t a separate Asian group of servers like there is a separate group of EU servers. At least their primetimes kinda match up instead of being completely out of whack. I can only assume that there aren’t enough Asian players to form their own group so they have to go somewhere.
The idea of points being scored proportional to the number of opponents faced attempts to address the inequities that the mismatched primetimes introduces.
If you’re gonna say “It’s a 24/7 game, live with it”, answer me this: Why aren’t the NA and EU servers pitted against each other? Are they grouped separately so that the prime-times align better? I would think so.
It was a not an issue of coverage that influenced their decision, it was one over latency. Its a 24/7 hour game live with it, and stop being so arrogant – more people live outside the NA’s than you’d think, some of us even have the net.
’murica
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Anet could solve the point differential made by overwhelming SEA numbers is to just turn of the PPT during the overnight hours. Or at least the overnight hours native to that area. Basically when people should generally be sleeping, the points don’t tick..
Would that make people happy? How might the results look then?
The intent of you post seems honest so I think it deserves an honest response.
The fact is, this game is available to be purchased and played by just about anyone in the world, and because of this, Anet cannot lock out content to the prime play times of one specific region. When a player in North America is usually sleeping, a player in Australia just got home from work, ate dinner, and is ready for some WvW. Not to mention there are people who may work a grave shift, and play during work/school hours for many.
I don’t mean the content is being locked out, it means everything remains the same. Players can do whatever they want, cap everything, siege everything all to high kitten. Fight small groups, zergs, get loot bags, karma, gold, etc.. The only difference, that ticker on the top of the screen reads “0”. That’s the only change.
I would presume, or at least I’d hope those who are in T1 (and who transferred here) are here for the fights, not the PPT. If they’re here for the PPT, they are probably in the wrong Tier. Many other tiers that can be transferred to, to rack up the PPT if they so choose. From what I understand, the general consensus was those who are here, are here for the fights because there are lots of them. If this is the case, then most should not be against shutting down the tick during off hours.
The idea has been kicked around 2-3 weeks ago and did have overwhelming support. Perhaps in the past it didn’t, but now (from what I’ve seen), it does.
Their play time wouldn’t be less valuable than others. I’d say capturing whatever you can, upgrading it, and filling it full of siege for the next group is a lot more valuable than you think.
Before the prime timers log, they try and leave the SEA crowd something to work with, so they can concentrate on offense. Vice versa, the SEA crowd should be leaving as much as they can for the next group to come on.
The PPT is basically a by-product of whats going on and doesn’t need to be ticking during the off hours. It’s not a measure of skill nor a reflection of a servers capability to have large amounts of people playing from different time zones.
People need to ask themselves these 2 things:
1) If Anet does decide to shut off PPT during the off hours, what are the SEA people going to do who have the capability to play during a time slot where it ticks? Do they swap severs? Could this be a possible answer to server population mismatches? For Anet, the quickest and easiest solution to many blowout matches is to just turn off the PPT during off hours.
2) How exactly would T1 look if the PPT was shut off during off hours? On reset night, it was pretty much dead even up until people started logging off. It was close, it was fun (minus the skill lag of course). I can’t speak for others, but I think people have more fun in close matches than they do during the extreme blow out matches that we see.
This will never happen and should never happen, as it would marginalise half of the active WvW population. Just because you are asleep doesn’t mean the Oceanic/SEA/EU players are somehow less competitive than NA, posts like these will kitten off a lot of people because it is completely arrogant and ignorant as hell.
To counter the first point, no they wouldn’t switch servers because of the communities that were established on those servers. No-one wants to move because its a massive cost to the guild, in terms of influence, money and members that leave because of it.
In regards to the second, it would most likely be as it is now in each of the match-ups but probably with less people because removing SEA/oceanics/EU from the game in regards to score would make most of T1 quit.
So no, its a bad idea
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Anet could solve the point differential made by overwhelming SEA numbers is to just turn of the PPT during the overnight hours. Or at least the overnight hours native to that area. Basically when people should generally be sleeping, the points don’t tick..
Would that make people happy? How might the results look then?
all trolling aside, it has been awesome fighting against MERC and ND tonight. you guys may have way superior numbers but we are getting better at fighting you. good fights all round! /salute
You have a map queue and we didn’t before, we had to outsmart your blob and now you complain when there is equal numbers. Well gg.
Regardless, thanks for the fights
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Its a shame SoR won’t fight in open field unless that have like a blob with them =/. They won’t even fight if its like 20v40 they must bring like 80 people with them x.x
Welcome to fighting SoR
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
@ Nanyetah, its pretty obvious that you’ve had some pretty negative experiences with some kittene commanders who act like self entitled kids. Just put them on your ignore list, and if you really are having your enjoyment ruined address it to the commanders guild leader. Most commanders are helped into the position by their guild or server community, and whilst there are plenty of bad ones out there, the good ones that aren’t overly negative are more likely to keep on playing for the long haul. Good luck
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
I’ve been ordered to give this message by Zac, our 2nd OIC NA Commander to BG NA OIC Commander. I did a pure cut/paste because I think her language is on the trolly side but I think her intent is extremely clear.
FW
With leadership and posts like that why are you surprised that you get doubleteamed in every matchup during SEA. It’s kinda funny that we’re getting trolled for defending objectives against map cap blobs, stop blobbing as much and you might actually get people to want to fight on open field.
We play for the fights, but we don’t feel the need to get all of your coverage on on or two pins as SoR does. We’ve gotten used to fighting with far less numbers and if this means using ACs who cares – its a tool at your disposal. We play for the benefit of the guys who log in every day and its our responsibility to make sure our EU has a good handover vs proving how big your ego is.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post Laylyn.
Btw, Laylyn’s one of the server leaders from BG who’s really well respected from all alike. She works hard to make BG a better community. And she does make sense. Would kindly suggest that you be less sarcastic and antagonistic.
Yes, you know your history. Other than the ‘theoretical’ matchups, do you have any thing solid to add? Until then I am going to enjoy gw2 on BG.
Who? BG since launch and never heard of her.
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Laylyn is a guy. Laylyns done a lot for server on a PR front and helps us out a lot in terms of organisation – he has stepped back from it lately. Nevertheless he isnt just some random kitten forum troll.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Great fights with BG at the north camp on their bl just now ^-^
Yeah, you guys ran really tight – a disadvantage of which was that we were able to kite around and eventually pick off the tail. Longest north camp fight I’ve had in ages.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight I present you with the chance to relive the 45 omega golem rush that was done on BG BL the other night. I would like to give a big thanks to Icoa and Merc for being wonderful host that night.
What the hell happened to the doors in EB, all of the doors on the blue side of the map give a visual effect of rocks being propelled throughout the gate. A bug report was submitted by a few of us, but just going to throw up a couple of SC’s to show how absurd it was.
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Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight I present you with the chance to relive the 45 omega golem rush that was done on BG BL the other night. I would like to give a big thanks to Icoa and Merc for being wonderful host that night.
BG is buying over 3 more JQ guilds on top of re/esol.
The stacking continues.
The check I wrote you cleared. You can hit that transfer button anytime bro.
Sir, by any chance were you thinking of the word ‘cheque’.
Although the words sound the same
Their meaning are really quite different.
And esol? Isn’t that learning english as a second language?
spelling correction when you yourself fail at it? esol and esl, but you are close, well done for a learner
ESOL = English for Speakers of Other Languages.
Slight difference of course. I believe the difference between ESOL and ESL isn’t ANYTHING to do with syntax. Slight difference in semantic features. Therefore I didn’t really fail at spelling.
I was being an ignorant non-American
I find kiwis to be especially ignorant, I mean they don’t even know how to play rugby well let alone knowing an abbreviation that is used globally as a standard.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
The lord was bannered as the tower was capped, leading to our lord being revived in an enemy tower w/ a buffed enemy claimer. Our lord lost the fight and when we recapped the tower the lord didn’t respawn – sorry about that, but it was completely unintentional.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Basically these topics can be summed up in three words; America, kitten yeah. Get your OC coverage to pull their finger out or get some more oceanics. There is nothing more blatantly arrogant than wishing players that dont live in your timezone to be penalized for logging in as you would.
Retired OCX Pugmander and Guild driver [Tarkus, Vaelle]
Other than us (BG), I honestly believe JQ can beat SoR if we weren’t around because our NA crew don’t push SoR as much as our SEA crew.
