Guild Wars 2

SoR picks up Judge Judy for celebrity server overlord commander.

Vodka.3958:

Doomdesire.9365:

Scores come second. You will still win overall. It’s inevitable. SoR can’t compete.

Well your server can obviously compete since we’re in a tier together that isn’t broken like T8… Just like in boxing for example, everyone in T1 are heavyweights while the servers in T4 are lightweights. We can all knock each other out with a certain degree of equality but its about putting in that extra effort to make it through the end of the round. Saying you can’t do something is just an excuse not to try.

No, its 2 heavyweights and a middleweight. 2 servers have very good to great overall coverage and one has a great NA coverage slot. It’ll be that way until the next “stacked” server comes around. For now the 2 “heavyweights” will be joined by one middleweight every few weeks, who has one strong coverage slot.

So, SoR will do as it always has when faced with whatever server people are jumping to this week or that, we’ll play our heavy time-slot for the fights. We’re not going to pull overnight hours just to maintain a score, and we’re not going to get all pissy when we wake up to different colored maps. For the record, I don’t think SoR has any issues with BG as a whole, just one single guild.

Good fights this weekend, I’m sure all our inventories are filling at a rapid pace as we all play the skill lag waiting game.

Peetee.9406:

wish.3102:

Wasn’t JQ just winning the NA afternoon time weekend PPT? Did all the SOS and SOR players suddenly give up and don’t log onto WvW at all now? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE FIGHTS!!!

It is about the fights.

We’re done spending countless hours whacking on the doors and walls of your T3 keeps/towers in your home BL, that kitten is dull and boring. Keep them and your point tick, congratulations you’re going to win again.

If you want to fight us Choo is in red, TW is in blue, and CDS/FEAR are in EB. If you don’t want to fight us, that’s fine too. SoS always puts up a good fight.

Stop trying to explain it man, its like teaching a rock to swim, its not going to work. I would advise SoR as a whole to completely remove itself from these threads, aside from simple score updates.

Aside from the current drama, which really is just bunk. I was looking forward to fighting SoS again. Being from SoR, I can say with confidence that when SoS spent a few weeks with us in T2 before moving up was some of the best WvW we’ve had. They were classy in game and on the forums, aside from the ever present trolls in match-up threads.

The very unbalanced T1 match-up now is and will take its toll on the best of us, it happens, we can only hope something changes and hopefully sooner rather than later. This is the kind of thing that sets people on edge as a community. At some point people will realize that stacking one server or another just ruins the fun of the game for a great deal of people, add in the all natural “gamer bravado”, and mix in some straight up underhanded efforts by individuals, and you have a disaster kittentail.

Just don’t give the people doing that kind of thing the attention they clearly crave, those are small minded people, who would rather try and break something than build it up.

SoS seems to have a great community, they show their passion for it in posts like the OP’s here, you guys will move past this little bump and remain just as strong.

Cheers and good fighting.

@bearcow(Because I don’t want to quote all that) Thank you for recording that evening, to be very honest, that was probably the absolute best 4-5 hours of WvW I have played since release. Big thanks to [FEAR] and various Rallians for playing at a level higher than I have not seen since. SoS and JQ provided some great competition that night as well. Again thanks for the video, well done.

That guy that always seems to have 10 supply when you really need it, that guy is MVP.

hex.3218:

“I want to win fights!”

Translation:

I’m tired of getting my backside handed to me by better players, so our server stacked the kitten out of itself, and pretend we win with skill.

or

I want to win on the scoreboard, but can’t admit that and maintain dignity, again so we stacked as much as we could upset the balance of T1, just like we hated SoS doing when we lost for so many weeks, we hated it. But now that we’ve done it, its OK and we’re skilled.

or

I want to be in the BIGGEST zerg. So we stacked and stacked and stacked, and now I have the biggest zerg, so I win nah nah nah boo boo, skill.

or

I want to take my five man team and murder roamers unhindered. But I couldn’t due to the 4 hour queue on Friday night.

or

I don’t want to have to work to win a tower. So I’ll throw as many players at it as possible, why out think your opponent when you can swarm them like locusts.

or

You get the idea. What is a ‘good fight’? Such a subjective and over used term.

I don’t care if the fight is good. I’m here to kill enemies. You can Dr. Pepper your good fights. I want kills and I get them, by completely overwhelming the opposition, who needs skill when 60 people can spam weapon skill 1! Sometimes from chumps, sometimes from doods hard as nails. Sometimes I get killed. That’s the game.

I’m going to share JQ’s play book with you all, if the fight is even, just call more people there’s one under every rock on JQ, we don’t like even fights or want a challenge, so please please just let us hide behind this wall until more people come, it should just take a minute.

Get busy stacking or get busy whining.

I fixed your post, the truthyness of it was so overwhelming.

Players will gravitate to classes that are perceived as overpowered. 6 months from now it’ll be a totally different set of classes that are perceived as OP and people will gravitate towards them. Its the circle of alts, and it re-rolls us all.

I’ve had this happen more often in the match we are in currently (SoS,JQ,SOR), out of the 10 or so times this has happened, only once has it been for smack talk. The rest of the times its been friendly banter.

crewthief.8649:

Thundar.3910:

crewthief.8649:

Thundar.3910:

crewthief.8649:

Thundar.3910:

crewthief.8649:

Oh, so then SoS/SoR players just stopped playing this weekend or something? Are you guys just demoralized? Oh, and lets not forget that a couple of weeks ago there were multiple SoS and SoR players saying that the TRUE fight happened on the weekends, as coverage issues were much less glaring. Has that statement been retracted now? Hilarious.

No it has not, the weekend is still far and away the best days of the week long match, both in fun to be had, and equal numbers. Glass Quarry happened to win the weekend fights, good show, you came out in force, knocked some heads together, and held your ppt high.

SoR has always, and will probably always, play the map they are in, and play for the fights on the map, if there are no fights, or the other servers scurry off to another map, we’ll just go there. Winning is fun for some I understand that, but it seems SoR has gotten numb to the ppt war, or the coverage war. Heck even when we sat at 500+ ppt in our last few weeks of T2, when the “Mass SBI Exodus” of 2013 was happening, we we’re bored, we look for the fights. Winning by a ton or losing, we just look for the fights.

To the SoR wrecking people in our prime time, be careful guys, when you crush these zergs open field there is just glass all over the place, you could hurt your feet!

You may want to start caring about points if you want to remain in T1 much longer. Just saying…

Why? What do we win? An over inflated ego? Our ego’s are too large as it is. We’d have construction crews in each keep widening the doors so we could get our heads in, sounds too costly.

T1 or T8, we don’t care, if there’s a good fight to be had, we’re pretty well content. We’ve fought the servers that stacked their way into T1, we’ve fought the servers that have fallen from T1, we’ve fought the server that swore up and down they’d get to T1 in 2 weeks, only to hold them for 7 more. We don’t care about the score, we don’t care about the ppt. All we want to do, is get you on the field and beat your brains in, or have ours beat in.

I spend almost all my time in WvW on SoR, very rarely do you see in map or team someone nitpicking over the score, and you do not hear it in our server team speak often either, The only time someone really gets upset is when the enemy we’re fighting stops showing up to fight.

Cheer and good fighting.

Because, disregarding the scoreboard…will put you back in T2. Look, you play however you have fun man, won’t begrudge anyone that. I also enjoy the fighting in WvW, it’s why I ultimately even bother with WvW. But, there has been a whole lot of complaining coming from some members of your community about the fact that JQ bothers with the score. It really boils down to this. If you and your community bind yourselves by some sort of hidden code of conduct, or some sort of moral philosophy…you shouldn’t expect the competition to play by the same set of rules. JQ is playing the game within the boundaries it was created, and JQ is playing to win. You can’t play for the ‘fights’ and then whine about the score at the end of the week because you’re getting steamrolled (I say ‘you’, I mean anyone, not YOU specifically’).

Wait what? Like 4 trolls came in and said some crap about the score at the end of the week, the vast overwhelming majority of SoR does not care about the score. We don’t play by some hidden code of conduct or whatever, and we don’t try and tell other servers how to play by our apparent(non existent) rules.

If you, and I do mean YOU specifically want to base your entire view of a server off of a very small handful of forum whiners, well then we can apply that failtastic logic to any server. Lets pick JQ! Zergers/2v1 cryers/talentless stackers, JQQso on and so forth. It sounds stupid, because it is stupid. You do whatever ever it is to stay in this mythical magical T1, and we’ll just go find someone to kill.

Okay. Enjoy losing.

Don’t you read the forums sport? SoR never loses a fight.

crewthief.8649:

Thundar.3910:

crewthief.8649:

Thundar.3910:

crewthief.8649:

Oh, so then SoS/SoR players just stopped playing this weekend or something? Are you guys just demoralized? Oh, and lets not forget that a couple of weeks ago there were multiple SoS and SoR players saying that the TRUE fight happened on the weekends, as coverage issues were much less glaring. Has that statement been retracted now? Hilarious.

No it has not, the weekend is still far and away the best days of the week long match, both in fun to be had, and equal numbers. Glass Quarry happened to win the weekend fights, good show, you came out in force, knocked some heads together, and held your ppt high.

SoR has always, and will probably always, play the map they are in, and play for the fights on the map, if there are no fights, or the other servers scurry off to another map, we’ll just go there. Winning is fun for some I understand that, but it seems SoR has gotten numb to the ppt war, or the coverage war. Heck even when we sat at 500+ ppt in our last few weeks of T2, when the “Mass SBI Exodus” of 2013 was happening, we we’re bored, we look for the fights. Winning by a ton or losing, we just look for the fights.

To the SoR wrecking people in our prime time, be careful guys, when you crush these zergs open field there is just glass all over the place, you could hurt your feet!

You may want to start caring about points if you want to remain in T1 much longer. Just saying…

Why? What do we win? An over inflated ego? Our ego’s are too large as it is. We’d have construction crews in each keep widening the doors so we could get our heads in, sounds too costly.

T1 or T8, we don’t care, if there’s a good fight to be had, we’re pretty well content. We’ve fought the servers that stacked their way into T1, we’ve fought the servers that have fallen from T1, we’ve fought the server that swore up and down they’d get to T1 in 2 weeks, only to hold them for 7 more. We don’t care about the score, we don’t care about the ppt. All we want to do, is get you on the field and beat your brains in, or have ours beat in.

I spend almost all my time in WvW on SoR, very rarely do you see in map or team someone nitpicking over the score, and you do not hear it in our server team speak often either, The only time someone really gets upset is when the enemy we’re fighting stops showing up to fight.

Cheer and good fighting.

Because, disregarding the scoreboard…will put you back in T2. Look, you play however you have fun man, won’t begrudge anyone that. I also enjoy the fighting in WvW, it’s why I ultimately even bother with WvW. But, there has been a whole lot of complaining coming from some members of your community about the fact that JQ bothers with the score. It really boils down to this. If you and your community bind yourselves by some sort of hidden code of conduct, or some sort of moral philosophy…you shouldn’t expect the competition to play by the same set of rules. JQ is playing the game within the boundaries it was created, and JQ is playing to win. You can’t play for the ‘fights’ and then whine about the score at the end of the week because you’re getting steamrolled (I say ‘you’, I mean anyone, not YOU specifically’).

Wait what? Like 4 trolls came in and said some crap about the score at the end of the week, the vast overwhelming majority of SoR does not care about the score. We don’t play by some hidden code of conduct or whatever, and we don’t try and tell other servers how to play by our apparent(non existent) rules.

If you, and I do mean YOU specifically want to base your entire view of a server off of a very small handful of forum whiners, well then we can apply that failtastic logic to any server. Lets pick JQ! Zergers/2v1 cryers/talentless stackers, JQQso on and so forth. It sounds stupid, because it is stupid. You do whatever ever it is to stay in this mythical magical T1, and we’ll just go find someone to kill.

crewthief.8649:

Thundar.3910:

crewthief.8649:

Oh, so then SoS/SoR players just stopped playing this weekend or something? Are you guys just demoralized? Oh, and lets not forget that a couple of weeks ago there were multiple SoS and SoR players saying that the TRUE fight happened on the weekends, as coverage issues were much less glaring. Has that statement been retracted now? Hilarious.

No it has not, the weekend is still far and away the best days of the week long match, both in fun to be had, and equal numbers. Glass Quarry happened to win the weekend fights, good show, you came out in force, knocked some heads together, and held your ppt high.

SoR has always, and will probably always, play the map they are in, and play for the fights on the map, if there are no fights, or the other servers scurry off to another map, we’ll just go there. Winning is fun for some I understand that, but it seems SoR has gotten numb to the ppt war, or the coverage war. Heck even when we sat at 500+ ppt in our last few weeks of T2, when the “Mass SBI Exodus” of 2013 was happening, we we’re bored, we look for the fights. Winning by a ton or losing, we just look for the fights.

To the SoR wrecking people in our prime time, be careful guys, when you crush these zergs open field there is just glass all over the place, you could hurt your feet!

You may want to start caring about points if you want to remain in T1 much longer. Just saying…

Why? What do we win? An over inflated ego? Our ego’s are too large as it is. We’d have construction crews in each keep widening the doors so we could get our heads in, sounds too costly.

T1 or T8, we don’t care, if there’s a good fight to be had, we’re pretty well content. We’ve fought the servers that stacked their way into T1, we’ve fought the servers that have fallen from T1, we’ve fought the server that swore up and down they’d get to T1 in 2 weeks, only to hold them for 7 more. We don’t care about the score, we don’t care about the ppt. All we want to do, is get you on the field and beat your brains in, or have ours beat in.

I spend almost all my time in WvW on SoR, very rarely do you see in map or team someone nitpicking over the score, and you do not hear it in our server team speak often either, The only time someone really gets upset is when the enemy we’re fighting stops showing up to fight.

Cheer and good fighting.

crewthief.8649:

Oh, so then SoS/SoR players just stopped playing this weekend or something? Are you guys just demoralized? Oh, and lets not forget that a couple of weeks ago there were multiple SoS and SoR players saying that the TRUE fight happened on the weekends, as coverage issues were much less glaring. Has that statement been retracted now? Hilarious.

No it has not, the weekend is still far and away the best days of the week long match, both in fun to be had, and equal numbers. Glass Quarry happened to win the weekend fights, good show, you came out in force, knocked some heads together, and held your ppt high.

SoR has always, and will probably always, play the map they are in, and play for the fights on the map, if there are no fights, or the other servers scurry off to another map, we’ll just go there. Winning is fun for some I understand that, but it seems SoR has gotten numb to the ppt war, or the coverage war. Heck even when we sat at 500+ ppt in our last few weeks of T2, when the “Mass SBI Exodus” of 2013 was happening, we we’re bored, we look for the fights. Winning by a ton or losing, we just look for the fights.

To the SoR wrecking people in our prime time, be careful guys, when you crush these zergs open field there is just glass all over the place, you could hurt your feet!

1. Open field fights – I’d have to give it to TW, running with these guys and their 15 or so people, taking part in killing zergs far larger than themselves is pretty awesome to behold.

2. Toughest defenders – Couldn’t pick out a guild, so I’ll just say JQ as a whole, these guys cling to walls like a spider monkey in heat. Like that wall could some how provide for them life sustaining nurishment, and free tacos.

4(Because the other guy skipped 3) Most unique strats- Going with VoTF on that one, the impressive 3 thief attack on JQBL Bay’s lord with 20 Rams to distract the guards, was pretty cool.

5. Biggest zerg – Errr JQ’s morning crew?

VoTF, was a very entertaining game of Hide and Seek in JQBL Bay not to long ago, props for a really creative ninja effort, well done.

Sometimes I think I’m reading 2 different threads, then I realize peoples perspective of things gets skewed with emotion. I’ve honestly seen 1 guy troll this thread, the rest of the posts not so much, some chest thumping and so on.

Great fights all around, its been nice seeing as many open field fights as we’ve had this week so far. To the persons post above that kind of a graph thing, whatever it is, use a ven diagram, their far more confusing, but more appealing to look at.

covenn.7165:

Thobek.1730:

Doomdesire.9365:

SoR only 3K away from SoS! We’re making a giant push!

sigh. SoR are becoming the new JQ… happy with just being in T1 and not winning.

/edit – before you jump down my throat someone said it on the SoS BL’s earlier today about SoS and SoR which I agree “we are both fighting against each other to be the best loser”

think about it.

Are you really complaining about SoR fighting you? Let me clue you in, we don’t just fight you, we fight JQ as well. In fact, we spent most of our time last night in JQ fighting JQ. We would have been able to do a better job of it if SoS hadn’t kept interfering and forcing us to pull off of our garrison attempts.

Using your logic, why are you guys fighting for second place and being the best loser?

Relevant- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlYbpDylmUs

Ran around in JQ BL last night with TW/TWL. The best WvW I have ever done, thanks to TW and SoS/JQ for providing some great fighting, it was an absolute blast.

Thobek.1730:

pot.6805:

Has SoR completely given up? I’ve seen multiple screenshots of them at 0 ppt.

They have probably finally realised what SoS have been dealing with the last couple of weeks. You can’t beat a server when they have 10x the players on the field during most the day. If it wasn’t for our strong oceanic presence that gap between 1st and 2nd would look silly.

I think JQ overestimated how many guilds they needed to bring in to keep the games interesting, now they are fat and bloated. The end result will drive pugs away in the other servers because they will be outnumbered and find getting stomped by the JQ zergs frustrating. Only EB will retain numbers.

As of now I would rather have a BG, SoR, SoS battle. A good match that would be close.

The other way of dealing with JQ is if SoR and SoS doubled team JQ all week. That could be interesting.

I’d love to see SoR and SoS take on the monster next week, but only Mon-Fri, all out war on the weekends! Might be fun to see how one monster server fares against 2 slightly smaller monster servers!

Envi.2460:

so no wvw patch till march, and the things they are putting in arent really adding anything other then ranks, and rank abilities, which will get more people to q(more then likely) and get more people to complain about waiting. wheee.

Im not finding wvw much fun anymore seeing as i have to wait nearly an hour every night if i want to play. i actually found myself playing……. the sims last night faints

Saints Row 2 on the second monitor while queue’d, my Steve Buscemi looking character fights and causes crime in a unitard.

pot.6805:

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

Actually someone did, just a few posts above yours. They claimed the weekend proves who the better server is.

If we base an entire servers attitude on the post of one person, every single server is the worst server of all time.

Thor.1756:

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

What they were saying was that the weekends should be given more weight because its fairer. And I was pointing out that they are not necessarily fairer because weekends introduce many more casuals than normal, and create difficult queues for stacked servers. I know not only JQ suffers from long queues on the weekends, which create serious organization difficulties.

I would argue prime times for each server is just as fair, if not more so, because shorter queues allow for better coordination and for organized guilds to get full numbers into the right maps. I know for a fact SoS and SoR are fully capable of producing full queues during NA prime time, so the PPT differentials during those times are going to be reflective of server skill and tenacity, not merely coverage.

There would be no need to argue, I would agree with that for sure, NA primetime is pretty awesome in this matchup, lots of give and take. Sadly I don’t get to play that much during those times!

As far as your first point about casual players messing with the queues and organization of stacked servers, that would be the price we pay for stacking servers, SoR had those growing pains after “The Great SBI Migration of 2013”.

Not sure why JQ is all defensive over their coverage, they recruited, got people on to their server and play a week long match, and are currently winning. I dont think many are faulting them for that, SoS did the same thing as did we at SoR. Each server seems to have their gaps in coverage, JQ just has less/shorter gaps.

People, including myself emphasize the weekend more, because its simply more fun, and can devote more time to playing.

Wrenches are far more OP than Fruits!

Because reasons.

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

Thor.1756:

Frankly all this talk about weekends being the end all be all of wvw is bullkitten. Weekends invite more casual pugs to play than normal, making queueing rough and preventing guilds from moving across borders to ones that need organization. Point is, weekends have their fair share of problems, especially for an overpopulated server like JQ.

Everyone has their prime time during the weekdays when their coverage is good. Man up, take your losses during your downtime (like JQ has done for 18 weeks or so before we got better coverage), and fight like hell when you can. I can only imagine the kittening from SoS and SoR if they had been in t1 against HoD. You guys really have no idea.

Uh the weekend is by and far the best times for WvW, all three server’s pug come out and kick butt, the fights were better for everyone(aside from the queue bugs), each server fights better, and has more even footing on round the clock coverage. The absolute best WvW I have played was this last weekend, you can see each server felt the same exact way earlier in the thread as well, it was downright epic. Coverage is kind during the week for sure, and JQ seems to have it in spades. But the most even, most fun, most epic fights are on the weekend.

Barab.9016:

Warlord.9074:

Barab.9016:

Warlord.9074:

me im not.9357:

As far as Im concerned—- its a shame one of these three servers will have to ever flip back to tier 2. I have huge respect for BG—- but SOR/SOS/JQ I think have all proven all they have to prove this match. Scores have been tight— and no one server is really outside of beatable this week. JQ has the advantage as the only server with solid 24/7 coverage—- and Im not knocking them for it—- but the fact that they can hold such a crucial advantage and for the scores to still be this close really says something for everyone. So from SOS to JQ and SOR—- good fights….. actually, Great Fights!. Thank you!.

My sole complaints—- culling AOE is being used by all 3 servers. I don’t know that Id call it a clever use of mechanics since we all know culling is busted, but I struggle calling it an exploit either since its being used so much by everyone these days. In any chase, it does feel a little cheap. I hope Anets AOE nerfs get here soon, and I really wish they would find a way to fix culling—- but I suppose those are complaints for another thread.

Again though, it was fun this week.

JQ is OP. A better matchup would be BG, SoR, SoS. JQ is just a little too piled on. I’m sorry for saying this in advance great job to JQ for the recruitment and this is only addressed to some JQ that have transfered there during off peak hours…Not the whole server… but I hope you enjoy PvDooring cuz thats all your going to be doing. If you find PvDoor fun more power to you. consider moving to another server when you get bored of fighting no one. But your welcome to do whatever you want just don’t expect fun battles when there is no one to fight. But maybe you like fighting no one so just do what you do. grats.

Sorry your upset but the WvW scores are out of any one individual’s control. I wouldnt get all bitter and mad because it’s a 24/7 7 day server match not guild vs guild or individual vs individuals. Ive been looking at SoS and SoR’s population each day and night randomly and both servers are always full. Why SoS and SoR doesnt have full maps 24/7 is something only that server’s leaders can answer because the population is logged in 24/7.

Anyway the week isnt over yet but I wanted to say thanks to all the fighters from all servers for this week’s match. All three servers are worthy of t1 and are champions in their own right.

XD I think they are doing PVE thats why. I’m not going to get mad or bitter, I will just quit. Not going to fight overwhelming numbers, and I think a lot of other people will just hang up the towel as well. We don’t care about winning or losing, we just like to have fun 10 vs 90 isn’t any fun in that.

That’s too bad you would consider quitting. WvW is a zerg fest no doubt. As someone who runs solo or in a group in WvW I know feeling of constantly being out numbered. Servers in t1 have 40 person groups constantly roaming the maps.

I always read about the months in t2 SoR fighting thick and thin vs the full coverage of SoS and BG’s zergs consistently ending in second place. There was no quit then so why now ? This is one of the closes t1 WvW score matches we’ve seen and one of the best I just dont get all the anger in not finishing number one let alone number two. Winning in WvW is a fool’s illusion. What matters is enjoying the fight and playing with friends.

I see what you’re saying, and I don’t believe that you’re taking into full context what Warlord is saying. SoR did not put forth it’s full effort during the week this match, we’re exhausted man, 15 weeks of being outnumbered over the last few match ups has taken a toll! I suspect with the slightly lower turnout during the week this match, we’ll see a resurgance of people playing during the week, next go around. We need rest! we’re not machines(well except maybe some of the [choo] guys, I think some of them may be cyborgs).

Cheers and good fighting!

To clarify: the 2 weeks before this were pretty easy goings for SoR, might have played a factor in our lower than normal numbers during this week.

Eurlin.4256:

I have nothing bad to say about the match up this week at all! JQ is doing a great job putting up 24/7 coverage, and SoS is showing that they will never give up even if it’s just for second place! OF course I’d love to see SoS and SoR have a better cover of the day, but we deal with it and keep fighting. I look forward to seeing both servers again and hopefully having all the great fights I’ve had this week again.

I will say that I’ve noticed the lag to be a bit harsh this week as well as the culling, but we’ll never get rid of those problems.

I didn’t have lag or culling problems this weekend, it really started last night, man it was bad, more than a few times I found myself in the center of a PRX zerg ball on SoR BL, only to go"OMG OMG WHERE DID THEY COME FROM!!!" and then promptly die to 74 different combo fields, all while laughing.

Good fights this weekend, and a good handful of them during the week so far. Coverage is the name of the game in DubDub, we(SoR) knew that going in, well most of us did, we have some pretty large holes in coverage, so as per usual we play for the fights, and the overall score comes in down on the list of priorities. The weekend is where all the fun is for the most part anyway, each server has a better shot at round’ the clock coverage, the maps are multi colored all the time, thats when it really comes down to who has the better troop movement, response time, and overall ability to preform as a server wide, multi map unit. The extremely tight score at the end of the weekend was a large testament to each of the servers.

Tissue paper, I’m convinced peoples skin has evolved into tissue paper.

I am upset, I worked my tail off getting into TC’s little cliff area near WH, I was trying to defect. But NOOOOooOOOOOOOoooo you just have to attack me, fine! I’m taking my ball and going home.

Spent over 1 mil Karma.

Several Mini priests
Several Loadstones(various)
62 Obi Shards
4+ Stacks of Unidentified Objects(1.25g a stack)

Made 58g on the TP from LS

I was using the karma for nothing else anyway, worked out well for me at any rate.

Score Update for those that need it.

ThaOwner.7560:

TheDevilWithinU.7092:

ThaOwner.7560:

its really no fun when the 1st place team in the tier a boatload of transfers guilds.

Paid transfers cant come quick enough….

Transfer guilds? I’m confused since we’ve only had 2 guilds join our server this week. Plus we’ve been recruiting very hard for a long time to actually get an Oceanic presence.

What you are mainly facing each and every day/night is our NA crew. We have all been staying up throughout the night to help out our boys on the Night crew.

Nor does SoR wish to have “band-wagon guilds” on said server. If you are a part of SoR you are about of the tight-knit WvW/PvE community we have. Not some “band-wagon” community.

so you’re saying you’ve always had full queues in all maps? ha

The first 4 or so week of the BG/SoR/IoJ matchups, yes, we did have queues in each map, as that match-up lingered, it was gradually less and less, until it was SBI/SoR/TC, then a lot who had burned out on the old stagnant match, came back and here we are again. We did get a few medium sized guilds, a welcome addition to the server to be sure. Its less new people coming to the server, and more, old people heading back into WvW. The new match seems to have reinvigorated our server.

Come to SoR! We use Golems to fight Legendary Defenders! There are entire zergs of people here who think they are trains! We have Alpaca Owls, Dear Hunters! and much much more!

On a more serious note, as a vet of several MMOs, never have I seen a more stand up community of players, someone is always willing to help, WvW is a team effort, no guild is ever working alone, we work together or we fall.

For those that were wondering, it takes 4 hits from a Legendary Defender at the SBI spawn in SoR, to kill an Alpha Siege Golem.

Nice overnight push SoR. Had a lot of fun in EB last night with the 3 way(bown chicka wowow) fight for SM. TC you guys are relentless, I love it. SBI, its really great to have another server in T2 that has the sameish footing as the other 2, you guys just do not quit and it makes for some epic fights. Props to both servers for giving everyone some of the best T2 action in months.

Lower participation does not equal the death of a server, nor does the loss of EU/Oceanic coverage. All it mean is that you drop into a tier that has the same type of coverage as yourselves. This is good, you will be on a more even playing field, the fights will be more enjoyable, and best of all you’ll be able to get more sleep.

Whats happening is good for both T1/T2’s overall health. Servers which have solid 24 hour coverage will be in T1, and those in T2 will have equalish coverage aswell, better fights for both tiers and more fun to be had, SBI will see a nice resurgance in T2, and we’ll be happy to have you.

Jayne.9251:

Thundar.3910:

Jayne.9251:

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

You may well take second this week, we (SoR) seem to have low participation this weekend for whatever reason. But as long as BG is in this tier you cannot and will not take 1st, their population and coverage has become far to large for the other T2 servers to overcome.

The only thing you would be doing is working FOR BG by focusing on SoR, I’m not suggesting focusing BG or SoR for that matter, only that you are helping to secure first and a big point spread for BG, allowing them to move to T1, which due to their current surge and recruitment is where they belong. Like I said you playing for the pied piper by doing what they want you to do, even if you do not think you are doing it.

What would be really nice is a balanced T2, instead of servers who wish to jump into T1, by stacking. I’m not saying that is a bad thing, or that people who wish for T1 should not do that, it would just be a lot more enjoyable for the 3 servers in T2 to be on equal footing for better fights.

So you’re saying we can never beat BG because of their coverage …. Seems to me that’s a strong argument for TC to try for second… If only to gain rating.

And yes, would be nice if things were balanced …. Makes for enjoyable gameplay all round … But given the often unpredictable nature of gamers, it’d be hard to regulate that. Even with a fee to transfer, there would still be server jumpers…. Although I suspect that would become more marginalized.

Oh I agree, TC should be fighting for second, I would if I were in their shoes. But focusing on one server in a 3 way battle is a poor way to go about it, SoR will fight both, snag points from both, and take 2nd in that fashion.

As far as a balanced tier, its wishful thinking on my part, there really is no way to enforce it, some people will want to win by however means, and human nature demand the path of least resistance, hence, stacking servers.

Jayne.9251:

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

You may well take second this week, we (SoR) seem to have low participation this weekend for whatever reason. But as long as BG is in this tier you cannot and will not take 1st, their population and coverage has become far to large for the other T2 servers to overcome.

The only thing you would be doing is working FOR BG by focusing on SoR, I’m not suggesting focusing BG or SoR for that matter, only that you are helping to secure first and a big point spread for BG, allowing them to move to T1, which due to their current surge and recruitment is where they belong. Like I said you playing for the pied piper by doing what they want you to do, even if you do not think you are doing it.

What would be really nice is a balanced T2, instead of servers who wish to jump into T1, by stacking. I’m not saying that is a bad thing, or that people who wish for T1 should not do that, it would just be a lot more enjoyable for the 3 servers in T2 to be on equal footing for better fights.

Ardon.4105:

tkalamba.2541:

pot.6805:

tkalamba.2541:

Veltoss.9135:

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

Technically wont win focusing on each other anyways. The idea of focusing on the leader is to deprive them of getting the potential points they need. If we ignored you and went after each other, it more or less means you can do what you want. It makes no sense to focus on each other.

Doesn’t make sense for SoR because you are already in 2nd and want to keep it that way. BUT it does make sense for TC if they actually want to progress and move into 2nd place. Afterall, you have to be 2nd before you can become 1st. TC ignoring SoR only helps SoR hold 2nd place while it guarantees that TC will stay in third.

What ends up happening is 2nd and 3rd fight amongst themselves, allowing 1st to steamroll in potential points. Fighting for 2nd doesn’t work in anyones favour except for 1st place. If both 2nd and 3rd set their sights for 1st, they serve a dual purpose, they not only work on getting themselves potential points, but they deprive 1st from theirs preventing a massive point lead. The 2nd and 3rd place would be smarter to focus on 1st to actually have a chance in a match. It also keeps things much more interesting and competitive.

Easy to say from a second place perspective, but if TC ever wants to progress, they have to focus SoR. What is much more likely is that the people on TC will do what they want because they’re not a hivemind.

You’re saying they’ll do what they want at the same time telling them to focus SoR, so you can focus SOR. Which is clear from EB tonight, no movement on Green from Red and visa versa, all focus is on Blue.

Which is sad, because it will all be Green by morning anyway. While BG seems to try to play the pied piper for TC.

Play whatever class you would like, with any spec you enjoy, however you enjoy it, as long as you have 10-15 supply, you are useful and an asset to your team.

Elthuzar.9478:

Liquid.9672:

Because that coverage is necessary to compete in T1, and most are willing to PvDoor while keeping their sights on the big picture. I see some people missing this point in the BG recruitment thread as well. BG isn’t recruiting for T2.

I’m curious, what will happen to Blackgate once you do reach Tier 1? Assuming you beat SoS after a couple of weeks you will have won GW2, will you pack your things and try your hand at the Euro League? or Will you all disperse and start again on a mid-tier server? All hypothetically speaking of course.

No malice intended, I’m honestly curious

Same thing that happens to all stacking servers I would wager. Some will get bored and xfer off, some will xfer to the Euro league and others will stay. The cycle will repeat, some other server will start stacking as much as they can, upset the balance in whatever tier they are in.

JaredKincade.9761:

Jahn.7019:

Had BG kept TC down in the points, they probably would have been in T1 next match with SBI coming down.

But since TC is gaining points and BG seems to have SoR on the brain, they are losing their rating gain.

This matchup will probably go another 2-3 weeks, at which point, BG will have sat in T2 the longest of any “T1 ready” server and any rating gain from wins at that point will be negligible again since SoR is sitting in T2 for 8 weeks and TC will have been in there a month, TC will become the new IOJ and BG will be stuck in T2 limbo. And we’ll have BG/SoR/TC for another 6 weeks.

60k plus lead isn’t big enough for you?

First you guys complain that we win, now you are complaining that we aren’t winning by enough? I excepted this forum to be full of excuses from SoR this week, but this is the funniest one so far. We aren’t winning by enough points. lol

No, the vast majority of WvW do not know or care how or why we go up or down. All the commanders I know just don’t like SoR. So we are pushing you first. Of course, points from TC are just as good as points from SoR, but many of our goal, is to see a red colored SoR.

So TC, stop begging for an alliance with SoR, they are not going to give you one because they want the ability to attack you, to keep you in 3rd. Instead, take the fight to them, and claim your right as the color blue. (that and its easier to clear zombie trebs from blue keep than red in EBG….)

What? He’s saying 60k isn’t enough for YOU. Meaning YOU cannot seem to win by enough to go into T1. For 5 weeks all we’ve been hearing about is BGs run to T1….whens that coming again? Keep stacking! You’ll get there champ!

Had a load of fun on TCBL last night, PINK was tough as nails, always a good encounter with them. Looked to be a large group of BG PuGs roaming the south part of the map, I would always find them by surprise, and then quickly become a corpse!

Le Rooster.8715:

From Sea of Sorrows i would reccomend Sanctum of Rall, they have arguably the strongest NA presence out of any server which means that Sanctum of Ralls strongest presence is stronger then any other servers, and they have great tactics and fighting spirit.

Thanks for the shout out, truth be told, I miss fighting SoS out of all the servers we’ve faced, hope to see you guys again.

I play with United Sanctum Alliance [USA], great bunch of people, we do it all PvEverything. We have a group of about 15 or 20 that do nothing but WvW and around 40+ and growing, doing it all. If you looking for an all encompassing guild check us out on SoR.

Holy craptasim that is the lamest thing I’ve ever seen!

It has to be in jest it just has to be! I spit out my sammich reading it!

Well played.

Jeknar.6184:

Scores while I wait for the EB queue…

11h30pm on GMT -3 (5pm on PST)

Pssst pssst…hey….psssst, there’s something on your face. Either that or you survived a bear attack.

Israel.7056:

Malvader.7502:

If SoR had the Oceanic/Asian coverage that BG had, they wouldn’t be sitting in Tier 2 that’s for sure. It’s like you guys purposely lose points so you never have to leave Tier 2, so you can pump your chest and be the “winner” when you know full well you’d get your kitten kicked in Tier 1

I think everyone’s just taking a break before reset. People have been grinding WvW all week.

I don’t think people on BG have necessarily been trying to stay in Tier 2 but then getting to Tier 1 has no obvious reward other than fighting even bigger zergfest servers than SoR. Not exactly a compelling incentive.

But do not fret, I imagine we’ll get bumped up sooner or later and then SoR will have T2 all to itself.

For a week. SoS took what 3 weeks, and they were good, I mean outnumber you, outplay you, outzerg you, skilled players, dead on tactics, that good. SoR is the T1 Gatekeeper. I cant wait to see the BG, SoS matchup. SoS will humble your butt, like they did to SoR, and they were champs about it.

I am wondering if the delay in the animation of hammer F1 skill, is intended or a bug? When I use hammer F1, I press the ability, setup my target area and the ability goes on CD,it does not “fire” for at least 1.5 seconds. If this is intended, can we give it the hammer 3 treatment, and make it more responsive?