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Do you still hate the Desert BL after patch?

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Can’t stand it. DBLs are a convoluted mess. Fire keep is just a fustercluck. There’s a reason sieging and taking a keep is much faster now compared to ABLs, the defended could respond much faster, the attackers could get right back to the action in the ABLs. It made for better fights, better sieges and just plain more fun for both, or all three if you were lucky.

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What happened to Blackgate?

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BG has never, in my 3+ years playing them, avoided fights by leaving the borderland to go PvD empty structures instead. If they want PPT, they’ll beat it out of you… not your doors.

Yep! Been playing against BG since the long ago times of SoR/BG/JQ. If they are beating you in PPT they went through you to get to their objective. Not over, not around. If you won the fight, you were sure they were coming back for round 2 or 3. The fights came first. They know how to use map politics, how to fight.

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What happened to Blackgate?

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ANET obvi broke the gamemode with power creep, CC spam, Stab nerf, siege buff, HOT gimmicks, and the new crap map.

That being said YB is the parasite that kills it’s own host. Yes ANET provided siege but most people fall somewhere between fights (w/out siege cover) and PPting to “win” the game. YB as a culture simply does not understand the value of competition and from that standpoint they contributed to the breaking of tiers and other servers. It’s a server that simply likes to be online to win not to be good to win. A server that despite it’s reputation as tryhards is actually quite casual at it’s core outside it’s raw logged in hours.

This is evident in subtle ways the main ones being how their rise coincides with a mass exodus of real hardcore guilds because of ANET’s above mentioned failures, terrible builds, and an almost cultist dependence on a few hardcore commanders. One must have a worthy adversary to make a great fight worth having in an MMO and in that sense people simply refuse to play with YB because they refuse to be an adversary in large scale PvP. Outmanned or equal numbers will always result in bunkering/siege only to emerge after numbers are more in line with their open field skill level.

If you siege hump only to abandon your structure at breach and when siege has been countered you never really fought. You simply took siege pot shots behind your wall and backcapped once your siege was broken. The entire server culture is actually quite delusional about how good they are at W3. It’s mostly casuals masquarding as pros because of saltyness related to not understanding how the combat system works in large group play and a refusal to put in the work to get better at it. In that vein they see themselves as superior in ways that many vets consider first day lessons like siege placement, scouting, supply counts, understanding of ded TZs, and getting on one tag to take structures.

They measure the success of their “tactics” through the PPT scoring system which the vast majority of the community has dismissed long ago as a metric for good W3 play and server performance. In a sense wining a game no one else has been playing for quite some time. This would all be fine if there wasn’t so much pride associated with such an autistic worldview.

YB doesn’t actually take it to the enemy they lay in wait for people to log and bunker when there’s a fight to be had. This creates tiers that are just not fun to play in as it’s more of a fight the third server as YB sieges you both. This playstyle is particularly cancerous in off hours. It causes a PPT cascading effect and effecting the experience of the next TZ while threatening the stability/viability of servers with lots of NA players and not much off hours. NA’s that would be good matchups and provide good fights but can’t be in tiers together because YB is PPTing at least one of them out of the tier at all times.

Over time the hostility of vets towards PPT play meant many with this YB gene went to consolidate (aka bandwagon) under the YB flag. As the game’s population dwindled because of delusion of the PPT scoring system YB was rising through the ranks picking up the “best” players along the way. One would think such hardcore competitive PPTers would like facing YB not quitting or joining them. One would think the absolute best challenge for a PPT guild/players would be to face YB and PPT this thing out. But alas they aren’t competitive because PPTing isn’t competitive it’s an almost universally recognized broken metric.

Everything ANET has done to nerf the original W3 population buffed YB playstyle which then in turn feedbacks on itself into an endless cycle of players leaving the game.

State of the game 3/23/16

It truly is astounding to see the amount of people complaining about 1 server. The honest truth is is that every server has its own play style of playing the game mode. Some servers are strictly into PPT, others do it for the Fights, others are a mixture of both. Each server has its own way of “winning”. So what if YB siege humps? For a long, long time Yaks Bend has been known for using siege. This isn’t new news, it’s old news. Everyone should’ve been well aware of this by now. It’s hilarious to see that people are treating it as if its new to them. Are you going to just sit here and complain? Or are you going to log in game and do something about it? Like I said, every server has its own play style, some don’t like it and others will. Complaining, and telling them how the game mode “should be played” won’t change their minds. Either we can sit here and complain all day and let our server(s) die while one enjoys the tears off of the other, or we can log in to the game and do something about it.

I didn’t get the “This is how it should be played” vibe off that post. It’s honestly a decent assessment of the situation. One server stacked, plays a certain way. Picked up players with the same mindset. Moved up the ranks, disrupting them as they did. Made it to the top tier. At the top tier, players of the other two servers are more concerned with a different style of play.

Whether or not you like the assessment, doesn’t mean, the players of the other servers are going to want to enjoy playing a game mode with another server with a completely different mindset. So they leave, either the tier, their server, or the game. Stacking, either beat your opponent, enjoy the same playstyle or just to win at any cost has not really worked out too well for any server that has done it, or the other servers in their tier. In fact it’s fairly detrimental to the game as a whole. All it leads to is players, both on the stacked server and off, frustrated. Winning without challenge is pretty hollow, losing repeatedly to factors you or your server cannot control is aggravating. It creates an environment where players will abandon a very good game for the next best alternative. Which starts the cycle over again in the next one. The grass is always greener until some dude kittenes all over it.

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Best Wvw memories.

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SoR/BG/JQ in T1 NA pre-season 1 days.
Full of good guilds around, fights 24/7, server loyalty was still a thing so people really cared about the server, plenty of guilds with different sizes and different focus, no big drama in any of the servers or anything like that. Everybody was having a blast.

This, all day. That was some of the best gaming in general I’ve had the pleasure of taking part in.

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Thoughts on the Cloaking Waters Nerf?

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Nerf? Get rid of that crap.

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What happened to Blackgate?

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Fought BG way back when T1 was far closer to population balanced. Fighting them now. As a dude from the former T1 sever SoR, BG has ALWAYS offered the best fight, open field, defending a point, small group play. BG is what we sought out, for one simple reason, they fought like hell win or lose. They still do. I’ll take another “dead” server with that much fight in them, over that other T1 server.

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Your top 5 priorities for WvW-Overhaul

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I spend 80% of engaged time in fights trying to just control my character. I am pushed, pulled, rooted, slowed, chilled, blinded, knocked back and knocked down. I need to spec just to keep myself mobile. I do nothing for my team any longer. I provide some damage, IF I can move. Having total loss of control of my character is not a fun experience.

I do not know how you can address it or if you’re going to do anything about it. This is not fun.

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The Death of Sanctum of Rall

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Came back to GW2 after a few months away. I’m still on SoR. Get in with a really great WvW guild [BARD], the fights are great, its fun and light and its not the lag fest of T1/T2. I love it.

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12/13/13 BG/JQ/SoR

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Good times on SoRBL this evening.

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12/13/13 BG/JQ/SoR

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Why are we all still arguing over numbers in T1. Here’s what I do when trying to count an enemy group, take the number you think you saw, lets say 40, then subtract a dozen, that’s probably closer to the real number of people in said group.

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Played a lot of PvP games. It’s easy in those games to get frustrated with the overall skill of the servers population. That’s not the case in the time I’ve spent on SoR, the people here are very coordinated on the whole. The overall strategy of the servers leadership, i.e. commanders, is to get everyone on the same page working towards the same goal, and some how, in an MMO of all places, it seems to work. It seems to work great as a matter of fact.

Had the privilege of playing a few different time zones this weekend. I have got to say our fairly well outnumbered EU and OCX crews are like little Pitbulls, these guys just don’t stop. And for as cruel as they are to the enemy, they are more than polite to those running on their team. A real pleasure guys, many thanks.

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SoR ~ JQ ~ BG 12/06/2013 v2

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Just getting setup to come back to some WvW, and I find the rivalry is still going strong. Now I need to find out if my guild is still alive.

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4/26 JQ/SoR/BG

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Drop a ton of flame rams on them, it’s fun and useless.

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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SoR has several havoc squads.

If they exist, they’re really ineffective or led by incompetents.

SoR’s response time as a server is atrocious. We never manage to control a majority of supply camps on any borderland. While a huge SoR zerg is chewing away at one of the two keeps, all the northern supply camps regularly fall to the enemy…and stay that way for multiple ticks. NO one reclaims them except for PUGs. For the record, yes, I am on SoR. Yes, I have been engaged in WvW since the betas. No, I’m not mistaken about this.

If our “havoc squads” snicker aren’t reclaiming lost camps (they don’t) and they aren’t capturing enemy camps (they don’t), then what the kitten are they doing?

You know…if they exist, that is.

If our small guild has enough to run a havoc, we don’t focus camps. You don’t need a squad to flip a camp, 2 people can do it. A squad on the other hand, can flip a tower, given the chance a keep(pretty rare in T1, has happened). The fact you don’t think they exist, I would imagine, is a compliment. But the real fun, it in the business of anti havoc. Because then you get rage posts on the forums.

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Best Guild Name?

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“We just want your loot bags [STOP]”

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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Hi-five to thunder for the synch slam

Stop patronizing me, don’t be so arrogant. Respect! slobber

Edit: 2v1, Zergballs

Edit 2: Googly eye’d socks!

Edit 3: SoR’s new mascot.

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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I can’t agree more, while I respect what TW is able to accomplish on the field and the caution they put into their enemies is obvious, to think what you guys do on your BL is replicated across the board is quite presumptuous. You do realize there are 4 BLs right? So while you tout SoR this and SoR that, maybe you should rein in that arrogance, and give your enemies the respect they deserve.

Respect is earned not given. To speak of arrogance then demand respect might not help your argument.

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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I don’t think it’s good to underestimate JQ and their huge WWW population.

To be very blunt, I believe most people outside JQ have stopped caring. It’s come to the point where it’s like throwing rocks at a statue, you’re not going to hurt it very much, and it wont do a thing back to you. For as much as they complained about SoS, they sure spend a lot of the time defending the same thing, just more of it.

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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You guys aren’t ready for this. ; )))

I would say SoR is! What say you?

BG getting stacked, yo. Careful now. ;P

Is that the fourth or fifth time now? I’ve lost track.

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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Fill in the blank.

JQ = ?
SOR = ?
BG = ?

JQ = Coverage wins
SoR = Quantity over Quality
BG = Bag Gate

*Fixed.

100 man SOR zergs vs 40 man BG/JQ zerg doesn’t equal to quality > quantity my friend.

wat. Someday I hope to see a 100 man zerg.

Omg! How did you fit SoR’s whole history in 1 screen shot? Thats crazy!

Well crap from that post I though it was “Let’s all say and post some random mouth vomit” Day. I guess I was wrong, Yeah just checked, that was election day. Few months off wont happen again! OR WILL IT!

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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Fill in the blank.

JQ = ?
SOR = ?
BG = ?

JQ = Coverage wins
SoR = Quantity over Quality
BG = Bag Gate

*Fixed.

100 man SOR zergs vs 40 man BG/JQ zerg doesn’t equal to quality > quantity my friend.

wat. Someday I hope to see a 100 man zerg.

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A way to destroy THE BLOB

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How to kill “The Blob”: 5 Arrow Carts, the answer is 5 Arrow Carts

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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Fill in the blank.

JQ = ?
SOR = ?
BG = ?

JQ = Too many people, stacked to the point where they do not want real competition.
SOR = NA Heavy, the meat in a stacked sandwich.
BG = Repetition? Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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SOR = single zerg ball during NA prime… boring and easy to out-maneuver.
BG = camp/tower huggers united during NA prime.
JQ = boring.

WTB a tier with more than 1 havoc squad… since SOR has none and BG’s are fake.

SoR has several havoc squads. You don’t hear about them every five minute, as we do not come into the forums every other day complaining about the lack of havoc squads. It’s not very havocy to be unable to read a map to avoid large fights to accomplish your goal.

SORBL NA primetime. Only seen USA among a zerg camping north camp. I’m sure it wasnt you….

Oh and re: forums… I spend more time banned for telling necros they dont suck then I spend posting. Today I have a day off though

We have scouts everywhere. That’s what we do. 2 Things are going to happen at 12 camp in SoR BL like clock work every night NA time. 1)JQ will send a havoc there, over and over and over again, 90% of the time it doesn’t get taken(It’s upgraded we don’t like losing it!) 2) JQ or BG will zerg it, after failing to take a north tower. And yes during NA prime 1-2 USA are parked at 12 camp, due to the high activity, those annoying guys that hold the circle for 30 seconds, that’s normally us.

Some necros think the class sucks? Maybe a little lack luster in SPvP, but SPvP is already lack luster itself.

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4/19 JQ|SoR|BG

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SOR = single zerg ball during NA prime… boring and easy to out-maneuver.
BG = camp/tower huggers united during NA prime.
JQ = boring.

WTB a tier with more than 1 havoc squad… since SOR has none and BG’s are fake.

SoR has several havoc squads. You don’t hear about them every five minute, as we do not come into the forums every other day complaining about the lack of havoc squads. It’s not very havocy to be unable to read a map to avoid large fights to accomplish your goal.

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New Siege in World V World?

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2 new ones I’d like to see, Charr Flame Tank, its a tank with a flame thrower for anti player. And a Charr Assualt Tank for siege damge, think of a mobile ram/cata tank. 150 supply each.

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Warriors are perfectly fine in spvp:

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so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

MAYYYYYYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yay buffs to more specs no one likes to play! WHoooooo! passives! so fun!

You guys complain about a lack of build diversity.

And then complain about them buffing things that people don’t use.

What…

They could literally double the effectiveness of 5 Sig build, and it still could not or would not be engaging or fun to play. Buff and/or change the things that matter. Weapons, do that first, smooth out the game play of the slow and unresponsive weapon sets. Start there, then work on traits and talents for even more build. In-fact do that for most classes.

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The Best Multi-Role Class

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I’d have to say Warriors. Jack of all Trades, master of none. Whatever role you want to play can be filled by a Warrior. Also Death From Above, best ability in the game for the lulz.

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SoR Recruitment Thread (SEA/EU/NA players)

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Got on early today to lend my sword to the Asian/Oceanic’s crew on SoR. It was a blast, great people, awesome attitude and some fantastic leadership. Come help us put the boots to JQ! I’m sure their early morning crew it itching for a stand up knock down drag out brawl, help us give it to them.

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Warriors are perfectly fine in spvp:

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so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

MAYYYYYYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yay buffs to more specs no one likes to play! WHoooooo! passives! so fun!

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4/12 JQ|SoR|BG

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I don’t see GvG events anymore on any map. Normally there is the “We are GvG’ing here please don’t interrupt” over team/map chat as a warning. I’m going to throw out that the issue with GvG is trust. It’s 1.) hard to get the times right when you are talking about Guilds over 20+. 2.) difficult to be respectful to each other since most people run to the forums about score 3.) discouraging when it’s interrupted. 4.) The horrible queue for T1 in primetime.

USA on SoR is smaller and NERF is spread out so for me, GVG is just not an option but I would assume that’s the problem these days.

USA on SoR, is United Sanctum Alliance. No affiliation with any other server’s [USA]. We run 5 man Havok, and zerg support. Almost all of us are fill in commanders when needed.

Edit: Are people still complaining about Zergs in a T1 thread? These are the most populated servers in the game. There are going to be zergs, a lot of them, every day, in the case of JQ ALL day. I can appreciate smaller scale fights and the tactics that go with them. I can also appreciate ZvZ fights and the tactics that go with those as well(If you think its 100 people spamming skills willy nilly, you’re in for a bad ZvZ)

Personally for me, open field ZvZ is a blast, watching enemy position, and trying to out position them is fun. Knowing when to push, when to back off reset and re-push, knowing when the enemy is broken and its time to go all out is rewarding.

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Fun on SoR BL this evening with SF.

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Ignorance, self imposed ignorance, score posturing, chest thumping, denial and bravado. All we need to round this T1 thread out is about a dozen more posts about 2v1, and we’ll be good to go!

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Look at which server is #1 NA and learn from them. Spend some time to study their tactics, find out why JQ is winning almost every week and try to counter those tactics.

I personally have been studying EMP as of late, are those centaur runes you guys are using? You have no idea how sad it makes me when I see all those walking running bags outpace me.

Just re-stating. [EMP] No. 1 NA, undefeated in the 100 meter dash, the Usain Bolt of guilds.

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No. If, and it’s a real big IF we can get past numbers, which honestly doesn’t look like we can. We will work on shapes, in the miraculous event we can get past shapes we will work on colors. After than we can discuss dinosaurs.

okay. : (( i’ll keep working on my numbers too then. i know a little bit about shapes, namely where 80+ of anything is classified as a blob! do i get a cookie?

cereally speaking though – i’ve mentioned this before.. often people only see what they choose to see. try putting yourselves in other people’s boots. believe it or not, there ARE times when people will still be playing, even after you’ve logged for the day. and what they see is well, clearly different from what you see.

i’ve seen JQ run zergs. i’ve seen BG run zergs. and yes, i’ve seen SoR run zergs. surprise, surprise, i’ve seen all 3 servers run way less as well. and as rare as it is, i still run into solo roamers still in T1. solo myself as well. what are the chances of that.

they all have their place in this match-up. just seemingly the zerg is more predominant as of late. but of course, it’s also more easily noticeable because it’s a large sea of red text. can you honestly tell me that you’ve NEVER seen small groups of SoR or BG or JQ players? depending on wherever you may be hailing from.

Well that was kinda the whole point of my little screen shot. I’m betting at most there was 45-50 people in that SS, add in the pets, clones ect ect you see 80+, its even easier to jump to conclusions when the metal meets the meat. I believe the largest zerg I’ve personally been in was 56 people. JQ/BG/SOR will all run zergs, they will and do run havoks and various other smaller groups.

To the guy having some form of aneurysm over the amount of people TW/TWL has, give it up sport, never seen them have much over 25 on any given night, aside from reset. The rest of the “80+ man zergball” is various other guilds complimenting a fun group of people to follow. I know us small group of [USA] guys prefer to run with them.

On a side note, it was my first night having the pleasure of running with TSYM, we tend to be on different BLs. Great fighting along side you guys in SoR BL this evening.

EMP, fun times brochachos, that cat and mouse run around presented in said aneurysm inducing screenie, was pretty fun. Taking part in 2 large groups trying to out position one another was a breath of fresh air from the normal head on smash fest.

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So much hostility in these threads lately.

Nah, I think we’re just trying to teach some guy to count, we may move on to shapes later, we’ll see how this goes first.

can we please do dinosaurs next? i love dinosaurs.

No. If, and it’s a real big IF we can get past numbers, which honestly doesn’t look like we can. We will work on shapes, in the miraculous event we can get past shapes we will work on colors. After than we can discuss dinosaurs.

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So much hostility in these threads lately.

Nah, I think we’re just trying to teach some guy to count, we may move on to shapes later, we’ll see how this goes first.

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EMP doesn’t zerg-ball they DOUBLE SUPER ULTRA ZERG-BALL!!

What a large 80+zergball is that you have multiple guilds who are 20+ stacking and running all together along with all the PUGs to form a 80+ zergball.

The screenshot you posted looks to me EMP split up their force into 2 groups. So, it’s the opposite of what you’re saying. When is splitting up a group of 40+ into 2 groups of 20+ running a large zergball? Also, I did not see a lot of non-Emp in the screenshot which probably indicates that there is another PUG group running around somewhere else.

To summarize, that screenshot is an indication that EMP from JQ is at least trying to not always run in 80+ zergballs unlike some server which will skill lag everyone to death.

Well it was a jest post mister crabby pants, it’s also meant to point out that while groups tend to run together exagerating an 80+ zergball is easy, which seems to happen quite often on this here forum.

Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.

He said as he proved another’s point.

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EMP doesn’t zerg-ball they DOUBLE SUPER ULTRA ZERG-BALL!!

What a large 80+zergball is that you have multiple guilds who are 20+ stacking and running all together along with all the PUGs to form a 80+ zergball.

The screenshot you posted looks to me EMP split up their force into 2 groups. So, it’s the opposite of what you’re saying. When is splitting up a group of 40+ into 2 groups of 20+ running a large zergball? Also, I did not see a lot of non-Emp in the screenshot which probably indicates that there is another PUG group running around somewhere else.

To summarize, that screenshot is an indication that EMP from JQ is at least trying to not always run in 80+ zergballs unlike some server which will skill lag everyone to death.

Well it was a jest post mister crabby pants, it’s also meant to point out that while groups tend to run together exagerating an 80+ zergball is easy, which seems to happen quite often on this here forum.

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EMP doesn’t zerg-ball they DOUBLE SUPER ULTRA ZERG-BALL!!

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It’s not really even about numbers, each server has roughly the same number of players that take part in WvW. The “issue” for lack of a better work, is exploitation of timezone gaps. SoR and BG both have several hours in which they have a large drop in WvW activity, JQ on the other hand for the most part, run uncontested within those gaps, securing them several hours of large point gains.

It doesn’t make sense for either BG or SoR to try and have people stay up and log on when they normally wouldn’t or couldn’t to try and cover those gaps, for any meaningful time frame anyway without producing large burn out.

So for the foreseeable future we’re going to see JQ at the top with what looks like the least coverage gaps of all servers, and the other 2 servers in T1 either fighting for 2/3 spot, recruiting to counter JQ’s strong area’s or in the distant future JQ possibly losing some coverage somewhere. In the meantime we’ll all be stuck in a stale matchup, and while there is fun to be had. I believe we could all agree a closer match would be far more exciting and fun for all 3 servers involved.

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I play WvW 95% of the time I play. Between dropped loot, gathering and the items from Heavy Loot Bags, its not abnormal for me to profit 5-10g each day depending on how long I get to play that is.

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Organized guilds running during NA time
SoR

  • Choo: 40+
  • TW/TWL 50+
  • TSYM: 60+
  • SHAP : 40+
  • SSQ : 25+
  • FEAR: 50+
  • SIN: 20+
  • CDS: 20+
  • HIRE: 15+
  • Hal: 20+
  • Plum: 30+
  • GSCH: 30+

Not much of that is accurate, some is. SSQ is SAHP, and they play Asian timezone. Take at the very least a 1/3rd off most of those numbers. Choo/TSYM are close to accurate. For the most part SoR’s NA crew is over half made up of smaller guilds that will attach themselves to the whole when we play, and will bounce BLs to compliment whatever force needs the extra numbers.

All that aside, being from SoR and having been through having a small to nill “off-hours” presence, having these guilds come in to fill those slots, and fit right into our server, is great. Us guys that play NA hours and like to puff out our chests don’t give them the props they deserve.

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The medal also looks sweet next to SBI and SoS, and we all know what happened to those servers.

It looks sweetest next to JQ server though I’d say.

SBI & SoS had huge problems from within which was the cause for their implosion. It’s very noticeable that the same problem has moved to SoR now.

I for one am lucky to be on Blackgate, a server that doesn’t have any sort of negative internal issues & where the entire community treats each other as though we are all family. Much respect for my fellow beastgater’s
Fight on!

There was literally no unity on SoS and that was what the problem was. We didn’t even have a server team speak until we started losing and people got frantic.

SoR is literally the most unified server I have ever experienced, everyone is warm and friendly and willing to work together on a level I am simply not used to.

Well if you’re coming from SoS, (a server that supposedly had no unity) into SoR, (a server with a little unity) of course you would think that your current server is the best because you haven’t experienced any better. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy for you and your guild; I just hope that you all will be able to fix the current problems that SoR is facing…

Sorry, but what makes you think SoR has no unity? Explain.

Stop falling for this, man.

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You know what? SoR found this really happy medium, where we can still play for the fights AND play for points. Posts and posts and posts on how SoR should play for points, then we play for points, then we start winning. Now it’s: Why you guys play for points I thought it was about playing for fun!?

Oh and to top it off, the weekend. Still the BEST days of the week for WvW.

I might add to inject some levity into the thread, that JQ. I used to not like you so much when we came up from T2, but after weeks of reading some of the downright hilarious posts on these forums, I can see why people have stuck around on your server, just the impression on here, it has got to be one fun server to be on.

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The last 2 pages of this thread have read like a Fox News editorial.

2 GUILDS LEAVE BLACKGATE, DEFECT TO NORTH KOREA
Agg and FoE, have abandoned Blackgate for the warm embrace of their Dear Leader. Several Drone Strikes are planned in retaliation.

BLACKGATE ASSURES ITS CITIZENS: WE ARE FINE, EVERY THINGS FINE
45 PPT on the Weekend? Is this the end for Blackgate? No say local man, “Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend that Blackgate is only playing possum, big things coming down the pipes. Just as soon as we donate more tot he war fund.”

BREAKING NEWS: SANCTUM OF RALL HIRES 4 BILLION MERCENARIES, MONEY REPORTEDLY FROM JADE QUARRY FEDERAL RESERVE.
4 Billion new transfers hit Sanctum of Rall this week, with an already overly stacked server this puts SoR with the most people on a server in any game ever created. Reportedly all new transfers are to receive 7k Gold and 2k Gems for their service. All the money is said to have come straight from SoR’s close ally, Jade Quarry. Details are slowly coming out that the only repayment option JQ gave to SoR, was continuing to come in 2nd. While allowing JQ to remain in 1st while at the same time continuing the constant and never ending(proven with several screen shots) 2v1 against BG.

BLACKGATE TO JADE QUARRY: YOU’RE FAT.
Yeah…they went there.

I have always viewed the flat out troll posts as a contribution to that servers political smear campaign. Lets face it WvW is just as much about politics as it is war. Can you even have war without politics?

No, no you cannot. They are both linked and one in the same. What you can do however, is remove the corncob from your cornhole, and realize that something so outrageous is more on the side of satire and less on the side of trolling. I mean come on man! 4 billion! North Korea? The JQ Federal Reserve? The trick to trolling is twisting just a smidge of the truth of a message to suite your propaganda needs.

I was’t calling you a troll lol. I was actually agreeing with you but using a different frame of reference for the posts you referred to in your satire.

My mistake! But still you should get that looked at, and stop picking at it.

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The last 2 pages of this thread have read like a Fox News editorial.

2 GUILDS LEAVE BLACKGATE, DEFECT TO NORTH KOREA
Agg and FoE, have abandoned Blackgate for the warm embrace of their Dear Leader. Several Drone Strikes are planned in retaliation.

BLACKGATE ASSURES ITS CITIZENS: WE ARE FINE, EVERY THINGS FINE
45 PPT on the Weekend? Is this the end for Blackgate? No say local man, “Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend that Blackgate is only playing possum, big things coming down the pipes. Just as soon as we donate more tot he war fund.”

BREAKING NEWS: SANCTUM OF RALL HIRES 4 BILLION MERCENARIES, MONEY REPORTEDLY FROM JADE QUARRY FEDERAL RESERVE.
4 Billion new transfers hit Sanctum of Rall this week, with an already overly stacked server this puts SoR with the most people on a server in any game ever created. Reportedly all new transfers are to receive 7k Gold and 2k Gems for their service. All the money is said to have come straight from SoR’s close ally, Jade Quarry. Details are slowly coming out that the only repayment option JQ gave to SoR, was continuing to come in 2nd. While allowing JQ to remain in 1st while at the same time continuing the constant and never ending(proven with several screen shots) 2v1 against BG.

BLACKGATE TO JADE QUARRY: YOU’RE FAT.
Yeah…they went there.

I have always viewed the flat out troll posts as a contribution to that servers political smear campaign. Lets face it WvW is just as much about politics as it is war. Can you even have war without politics?

No, no you cannot. They are both linked and one in the same. What you can do however, is remove the corncob from your cornhole, and realize that something so outrageous is more on the side of satire and less on the side of trolling. I mean come on man! 4 billion! North Korea? The JQ Federal Reserve? The trick to trolling is twisting just a smidge of the truth of a message to suite your propaganda needs.

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The last 2 pages of this thread have read like a Fox News editorial.

2 GUILDS LEAVE BLACKGATE, DEFECT TO NORTH KOREA
Agg and FoE, have abandoned Blackgate for the warm embrace of their Dear Leader. Several Drone Strikes are planned in retaliation.

BLACKGATE ASSURES ITS CITIZENS: WE ARE FINE, EVERY THINGS FINE
45 PPT on the Weekend? Is this the end for Blackgate? No say local man, “Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend that Blackgate is only playing possum, big things coming down the pipes. Just as soon as we donate more tot he war fund.”

BREAKING NEWS: SANCTUM OF RALL HIRES 4 BILLION MERCENARIES, MONEY REPORTEDLY FROM JADE QUARRY FEDERAL RESERVE.
4 Billion new transfers hit Sanctum of Rall this week, with an already overly stacked server this puts SoR with the most people on a server in any game ever created. Reportedly all new transfers are to receive 7k Gold and 2k Gems for their service. All the money is said to have come straight from SoR’s close ally, Jade Quarry. Details are slowly coming out that the only repayment option JQ gave to SoR, was continuing to come in 2nd. While allowing JQ to remain in 1st while at the same time continuing the constant and never ending(proven with several screen shots) 2v1 against BG.

BLACKGATE TO JADE QUARRY: YOU’RE FAT.
Yeah…they went there.

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Great fights all around from JQ this weekend. Having bounced around several BL’s and EB over the last 2 days, JQ has a great grasp of where and when to field numbers and adjust game play, it really keeps it interesting to try and counter and re-counter different troop deployments. Well played.

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Great fights this evening JQ, your super zergs in BG BL are impressive!

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