When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
WvW for the majority of players is about medium to large group play, as such their characters are built for that purpose. You have stated that your characters setup is for 1vX, which is great for people who enjoy roaming. If 1v1s are what you seek, you need to seek out other roamers, or just play s/tPvP there are plenty of dueling rooms(unofficial). People not setup for roaming are not going to seek you out. That said, no one is afraid of you, its a video game.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Lol hop back on your lollypop ship and get out of lala land scrub… We’ve wiped you damn near every time AND we were outnumbered. Keep it up with your smear campaign; there is no excuse for your server losing for over a month straight
Oh wow, fraps it is next time then. So much bull kitten in one post.
~You never wiped us. Sorry killing 4-5 people who didn’t move fast enough when indo called us to move somewhere else is not wiping us.
~You weren’t outnumbered, some times one of groups where outnumbered but that is because you think that charging us in groups of 20 will do anything but give us loot bags.
~ Coverage is the only reason you guys win, maybe if your guild wasn’t so bad you wouldn’t have to be carried by your night crew all the time aye?Then if you can’t beat us quit acting like a hard kitten on the forums and bragging about supposedly winning 1 battle. However you want to look at it, you are a loser and we are winners. So deal.
You have 2 people in your guild, at Hills(owned by BG atm) A D/D Tank Ele and a Thief who were just caught practicing Wall jumping into the outer walls. I’m not trying to talk trash, enough people are doing that in the thread already. Its probably something you should look into.
Wall jumping into the outer walls? I don’t see ANYONE doing that and I’ve been standing in the keep for some time. They were probably seeing how SoR was doing it since they’ve been doing it all day. Sunny, Cragtop, and SH. The only difference between you and us is that we don’t post it on the forums… We screenshot it and report it.
You have 2 people in your guild, at Hills(owned by BG atm) A D/D Tank Ele and a Thief who were just caught practicing Wall jumping into the outer walls. I’m not trying to talk trash, enough people are doing that in the thread already. Its probably something you should look into.
Was in the /map conversation. People were aimlessly jumping at the wall seeing if they could discover the exploit. They were curious after 15 SoR mysteriously showed up at that point in the keep.
Wouldn’t you be as well?
Do either of you have a screen shot or fraps? I’d love to identify who they were on SoR.
[Quag] from SoR just made Santa’s naughty list.
Trying to exploit into SH… Shame on you.
Screen shot or video? Never heard of a guild or a player by that name in SoR.
If you do have fraps of it or kitten let me know, SoR doesn’t like hackers or cheaters.As for a smear campaign. I see 1 sor guild trying to smear another BG guild and that’s normally how most threads go. As for a “server” smear of any of the 3 in the match up, I see more BG’s posting XX server hacked, exploited, ect…. But lack any proof when asked.
Now in my opinion either the BG members doing it aren’t telling the truth, or they don’t want SoR to be able to find the culprit and get it banned. Honestly drop the xx is doing xx unless you have proof to back it, and allow the server to get the player banned from GW2.
Remember last time someone provided proof of an SoR exploiter, that player got banned. Don’t try to smear SoR server knowing we get hackers/exploiters banned whereas another server only gave a smack on the wrist to theirs.
Done, Reports and SS’s sent to ANET.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
We really do have a great community here at SoR and would more than welcome you folks over here.
Sounds like a nursing home to me…
The tapioca pudding on Friday dinner at 3:30PM is darn tootin’ good.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
We did report them. It was 30 odd minutes ago. I’m not trash talking your guild champ. If you are so defensive about it and refuse to both believe and or deal with it, fine I could care less.
They were not looking for people, we stood at the gate killing the guards, while we watched them wall jump to the left of the north gate(You know that place that gets all the reports of the people that wall jump into Hills) They didn’t notice us, they were not looking for us, they were intent on jumping that wall into the keep, which they did. If you don’t want to look into it, fine. If you want to get all defensive about it, fine. Just don’t whine kitten and moan when your guild get a bad rep due to it. You don’t want it put on the forums? Take care of it.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
It would be more than ideal for folks from IoJ to migrate to SoR. As I understand it, some of the EU and Oceanic’s are or have moved off IoJ which is very unfortunate. A shame really, with SoRs day coverage and IoJ’s EU/Oceanic and the boost from their NA primetime folks, BG would just dominate everything. We really do have a great community here at SoR and would more than welcome you folks over here.
Edit: Not thinking straight!
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
IoJ fights for second, but does everything they can to secure 3rd for themselves and 1st for BG. I will never understand it, IoJ could have easily taken 2nd from BG Mid-Week and held it, if they focused on BG along with SoR. Instead they fought SoR tooth and nail.
This isn’t a 2v1 rant, I just do not understand the mentality.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
It seems they designed the class around front line fighting, and re-spawning. Its a class built on trade-offs, and apparently the need to be babysat.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Warriors are not bad, they need their tweaks and fixes here and there. Its just others do the job better, whether that means a nerf to those classes or a general buffs to Warriors remains to be seen.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Because reasons.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Green is simply designed better for defense in almost all areas in EBG. Naturally blue and red are going to go after the weakest targetable tower, which is always going to be something other than green.
Personally I feel the higher tier server should be red and the lower tier server should be green. IE, swap green and red so the weaker server has a better chance of keeping some points.
I imagine it would help immensely towards leveling out the end scores.
2nd place would remain Blue week in and week out with that system. A far more simple solution is just to rotate areas each week.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Good week for SoR, we kicked butt 4/7 days. One strong timezone and we kept the lead for 4 days. Props to BG for fielding a sea of red names late in the week. To the guy in the other thread from IoJ telling SoR, that they hate us, the feeling is mutual
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
How is this even a question? No crap the answer is Thief. More so in WvW than anywhere else. A low input, high reward class that has the advantage of a bug in the game engine(If you ever think culling is going to be fixed to the point where thieves don’t gain a massive advantage from it, you’re insane, culling will never, ever, be truly fixed)
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Gonna throw this out there because there were a LOT of insults tossed at the Icoa guild. I’ve met up with you guys quite a few times in Eternal Battlegrounds and every time I saw that tag I knew that we were in for a battle. Giving you props for your organnization and on how well most of you guys seem to know your classes. We’ve managed to beat you guys a few times but not nearly as much as we would like. Hope to learn more from clashing with you in WvW. See you out there
There is a lot of insult directed towards them for several reasons, most are completely justified, some are not.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
You look to be skilled with a Thief, but I cannot honestly tell a good thief from a great one, most of you guys run the same builds and do the same things. You seem to play slightly differently than most of them, I enjoyed your placement and positioning. I will look out for that in the future.
How does your build hold up against condition damage specs? I personally run a Warrior build to hunt all forms of thieves and it works great, most are annoying little flies I can just ignore until I feel the need to outright murder them. Your build seems slightly different than the norm, and I’d like to tweak it for future fights if needed.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
To Esoteric: Were you part of the 50+ BG zerg that portal bombed 7 people in Danelon last night…..twice in less than 20 seconds. At that point the only explanation for using a portal bomb twice……against 7 people is to abuse the culling issue. Or to be massive trolls. In both cases completely destroys the “MASSIVE COORDINATION” defense.
Portaling as an idea is good, it adds a layer of tactics to WvW, portaling in its current state devalues the game far more than it should. Currently good on paper, poor in practice.
I was in IoJ BL most of last night with the rest of my guild. Don’t think I was in EBG all day. It is likely that was [ICoa], I am pretty sure they were running the map at the time. Sometimes portals can be excessive for a battle, but they also prevent your numbers having to be shown in a certain area running to a location. If they just appear there, it is likely a strategy to remain low-profile rather than trying so hard to wipe 7 people. Regardless, I wasn’t there, but I wouldn’t portal to wipe 7 people, I’d portal to not give away my numbers, it is possible they didn’t even realize the 7 were there or they might have not wanted to run into siege if there was any set up. I can’t say for sure.
No, unless they could not count. They knew exactly how many people were inside Danelon, it was right after that reset(Lots of warning on those!…) Both entrances to Dane had about 20-25 BG standing in the doorway, I mean they could of held up a sign with the amount of people that were in each zerg, this was not a case of hiding numbers. Instead of running 20 feet to the 7 people inside, the portaled in, we killed several, again this is 7 v 50, 20 seconds later yet another port opens and the entire mindless BG zerg portals 30 feet. 2 reasons only, to abuse the culling issue, or to troll. Both of which shoot the caps lock spam of “MASSIVE COORDINATION” right in the face.
Now I’m not bagging on BG for using it, do not take it that way, just using an example, just as you yourself did in the reverse.(I found the situation pretty comical.)
I bring it up, because I like the skill in a tactical sense, the current version in my opinion is the exact opposite of tactical. When one ability of one class is used to such an extent as to trivialize several aspects of the game, it becomes the tool of the mindless zerg. Limiting the ability to 10 people, promotes it use as tactical. The ability to hide a mesmer in a keep for hours on end both over values and devalues the class depending on perspective.
Now will come the “Do a better sweep” comment. So, I pose the question: If hiding inside a keep where there are several places in which a person of any class can hide without being seen due to loopholes in graphical design is a legit tactic, and an entire team must search for person or people of one class to negate one ability of that one class is not considered the very epitome of overpowered than what is? On top of that we all have to deal with the current exploitations of graphical errors within the game, which compound even further a problem with portals(More of a problem with futtbuckers who exploit than portal, but we know how they delt with Orb hackers, they just killed the Orbs, I’d rather them not kill the Portal ability due to said futtbuckers.)
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
I keep seeing the argument that a portal bomb take some kind of mastermind to pull off, “Stack here we’re going to portal bomb” that’s it, that’s the massive “coordination” needed to pull off a portal bomb. You do not have to have a PHD to utilize a portal bomb, its as simple as using /s.
The next argument is that it’ll nerf mesmers, only the real fools are saying to delete the ability from WvW. Nerfing the skill to allow a maximum of 10 uses per portal, in no way limits the mesmer itself. If then your argument is that people will just bring more mesmers, then it gives creedance to the overuse of the ability.
To Esoteric: Were you part of the 50+ BG zerg that portal bombed 7 people in Danelon last night…..twice in less than 20 seconds. At that point the only explanation for using a portal bomb twice……against 7 people is to abuse the culling issue. Or to be massive trolls. In both cases completely destroys the “MASSIVE COORDINATION” defense.
Portaling as an idea is good, it adds a layer of tactics to WvW, portaling in its current state devalues the game far more than it should. Currently good on paper, poor in practice.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Its getting pretty tiring facing against servers with far more round the clock numbers than your own, been noticing a really large drop off of people willing to put in the money to upgrade things they know we’ll just lose in a few hours due to coverage.
Not bagging on the servers in T2 that have dropped from T1, or get an influx of players mind you, it would just be far more enjoyable if T2 would balance out, coverage wise.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
To all you SOR out their that may think about Alt-f4’ing, stop it. The fact that you died when you outnumbered your opponents 3 to 1 is shameful enough.
Take your repair bill like a man.
Eh, I’ve seen some people on the other servers, IoJ and BG, do it as well. It happens. There are 2 guilds in particular that insist on denying badges from me!
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
The jig is up! scram boys!
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Dear IoJ, Please attack BG in EB.
Love: Thundar.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
There are physical limitations to shipping a puppy across the ocean, SoR currently does not have the funding to afford holes in puppy shipping boxes. :/
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
SoR currently ranked 5th in WvW is looking for more players, to kill people by the masses. We have a great NA prime-time crew, able to go toe to toe with any other server.
We currently need people for those sought after EU and Oceanic time periods of play. We currently have a good base of Oceanics in the guild Nine Dragon [ND], they do a fantastic early morning job, the server just needs more!
Currently we can offer low to no queue times any day of the week and short weekend queues. SoR is a good community with a large number of PvE players to fullfill your every PvE need.
Every transfer will receive a free lolipop and puppy***
subject to terms and conditions, offer applies to those that stay on the server for in and up to 2 years. Lolipop will arive in 6-10 weeks after 2 year activation, puppy not available in most regions.*
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Anytime BG takes anything with doors or walls will now be in question. That’s not SoR’s or IoJ’s fault or their problem. You can play your hearts out the rest of the match, but it’ll be said that you did not earn the win. That’s the way it is when this kind of thing happens.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Keep portaling as it is, add a debuff when using a portal. Portal Sickness: Stuns the user of the portal until both sides of the engagement are completely rendered, kills any and all thieves that attempt to even look in the general direction of the portal.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Not near enough drama in this thread! I have video proof of 27 SoS players, swapping servers for 12 minutes, just to hack non-existant orbs from each of IoJ, BG, and SoRs Garrisons, only to swap back to SoS WITH the orbs. Also Dear Hunter kills our own Yaks.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
We can offer Upgraded Keeps and towers to our Oceanic and European allies, I can attest to Doomdesire himself dropping more siege than can be manned inside castles and garrisons!
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Very much enjoying this weeks match up, IoJ and BG you guys are fun to fight. There’s something magical about running into one of your respective servers zergs, charging headlong into the fray, to watch people scatter for about 4 seconds, then to have them realize I’m alone and roflstomp me into the ground!
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Its become abundantly clear the system that is currently in place favors those servers with “night” hours coverage. This shows that their playtime is far more important than those playing during “peak” time. “Night” and “Peak” times are varied by what region the server is in.
A server with high day participation, will have all its work for nothing if they do not have a “night crew”, and visa versa. The system has created a place where one group of people based on “night” coverage, time is far more valuable than those during the day.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
No, and I stopped giving a crap.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
I know this is feeling that SOR is not used to
Oh buddy, tell the whole story! Let everyone know that it took 50 of you to take a tower and a keep from 12 defenders, let them know it took an hour and a half, let them know it took 6 trebs(2 died), 2 rams(well 4 we killed the first 2) 3 catapults(put into mortar range, they didn’t last long). SoR it was an epic defense all 12 of us. IoJ you guys must be pretty scary at night, SoS didn’t even turn their heads to the north in EB.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
It really does getting old, bragging about the portals. It’s just a dynamic strategy. Remove it and the only thing you will see is people banging on your door, sorry but I would like to see some variety in the field. Not knowing what their tactic is and how they are trying to take your tower.
And please, stop saying it is unbalanced, mesmers can’t hold supply camps for 30 minutes stealthed on their own. These are just things players worked for to achieve, removing them will punish those players, not the zerg.
It would be a “Dynamic Strategy” if it was not the go to move in WvW. As such it is the go to move. Therefor everything dynamic about it has been beaten to death. If the only thing you can think up for strategy is either banging your head against a door or the use of a portal bombing, there are literally hundreds and thousands of ways to approach strategy outside of these 2 things.
What is punishing the players is the abuse of this mechanic. It promotes mindless zerging, it abuses the hell out of a weak point in the game engine, in fact the reason portal bombing is most used is to abuse the culling/clipping/rendering issue. Forgoing defenses, when you break a wall are pushed out and the wall is rebuilt only to sneak a mesmer in devalues siege equipment. In turn that devalues the game.(if you cannot think of how Anet loses money due to that alone, even if its a small amount, I cannot help you.) It also devalues the stated goal of Anet to play how you want, it promotes one class through their ability to be of more value than other classes. The fact that after a failed siege attempt by an attacking team, the defensive team is forced to sweep their area for a single class, just heightens the fact that the ability is OP. Having a counter strategy involving many players to counter the ability of one single class is outright and blatantly unbalanced.
Making it so only 5 people could use it would be dynamic and tactical, the way it sits now goes in the complete other direction. Yes there are counters, yes it has legitimate uses. But dumbing down WvW to who uses portals better is terrible for the state of the game.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
The total and complete abuse of the weaker points in the games engine, have a huge effect on my personal enjoyment of the game, I will not call them exploits, more abuse.
I enjoy the WvW aspect of the game. I believe far more people are enjoying the WvW feature than say the SPvP/tPvP features of the game. Sadly even though the populations(at least from what I’ve experienced)seems more into WvW, the developers seem intent of more focus towards the tPvP/sPvP aspect as far as timely fixes and the allocation of assets to improve upon its foundation.
Again this is from my personal perspective, and from not really hearing a lot about up coming fixes/adjustments ect ect. from the Dev/Forum team its all I have to go on.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Yeah lets call everyone stupid on the forums, tell them they’re being outplayed! Tell them they’re all doing it wrong!, That’s sure to attract a steady night crew!
Ok how does this appeal to your sensibilities,
Everyone is doing just fine. It is great stradegy to trade a tower for a keep, even if you can’t take the tower either. The only reason why we are losing to sos and ioj is because they have more people than us, even though we have queues in sor bl.
Look, don’t worry about the 5 guys sniping our yaks, it is much more important to zerg down those 3 pve’ers out there trying to get vista’s. You guys are awsome!
My “sensibilities” tell me we should deal with mistakes and poor planning internally, on Vent/Ts/Map/Team chat, in a decent manner(Its funny even if you’re pissed off about a situation and deal with it in a decent manner people listen, funny that), instead of on the forums where you sound like a huge kittenr on the same page you have a forum post asking for a night crew. I know it sounds crazy. Why would you come to a server that straight up advertises mistakes?
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Yeah lets call everyone stupid on the forums, tell them they’re being outplayed! Tell them they’re all doing it wrong!, That’s sure to attract a steady night crew!
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
On an even playing field portaling is fine, there are plenty of counters it. Just yesterday in SoR BL, a group was attacking Long View(or whatever its called on that BL) they were 30 strong with 8 defenders in the tower. The entire group balled up to prevent AoE on their Cata, right at the gate. Now the ramp up to the Lord in Long View is what 10 yards? something like that, most of the defenders were at the lord, instead of running 10 yards up the ramp after the gate was down, the entire 30 man zerg, ports 10 yards to the top of the tower lord area, what reason other than to use culling to your advantage is there to do something like that?
Now I may be harsh in my judgement of SoS for doing this, but I’ve seen them use and abuse it far more than SoR or IoJ, not to say I have not seen my fair share of it on those sides aswell, but when you go an entire day with an outmanned buff, and the enemies answer to every question is to portal bomb, you sort of get the feeling that while its a viable tactic, its overuse has completely negative effects on the game.
2 weeks ago I had the most fun I’ve ever had in WvW, and it was against SoS, and while portal bombing was used on both sides, it was not the answer to everything as it is now.(In the BLs at least.)
@Bashido, I’ve spent a few hours this week in EB, so far its been a blast, probably the best place for WvW this week for sure.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Most of the fun has been completely sucked out of this match. While I would agree that there has been very little exploiting seen(atleast from my time in WvW this week) What I have seen is the massive abuse of the culling issue. I’ve watched zergs port 10 yards to use culling to their advantage, theives using it to defend camps or towers far longer than they should have. Watching a zerg that vastly outnumbers its enemy use the AoE killer, “the ball” to negate the defense of those with far less numbers than themselves.
While all these things are considered “fine” in the context of a non-exploit, they serve no other purpose than to ruin any chance of fun to be had by either side. Winning is great, but to win at the cost of fun, in a non-ranked aspect of the game by any means, including, lets just say “sketchy” means does far more harm than a blowout.
We’ve seen what Anet does to things that cause an imbalance within the game, that cannot be fixed in a reasonable manner, they remove it completely. With the rampant abuse seen in the last few days I would not be surprised if some of these class abilities(from WvW) and “tricks” are removed outright to prevent this kind of imbalance.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Cannot wait until this Culling/Rendering issue is addressed, it seems SoS’s total “strategy” revolves around abusing the hell out of this bug. Most people are leaving WvW due to this alone. Enjoy your “win”.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
(Since I cannot edit my post?) Except for the constant portal bombing, Cannot wait until culling issues are resolved, people abusing it far to much.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Its a numbers game at this point, SoS has them 24 hours a day. Great fights though, all I care about.
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Crutch class abuses rendering issues, and glass cannon scrub builds. Screams L2P any chance it can. Class population drops 50% when all issues are corrected.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
My personal favorite is “I make a pretty great team”
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Sitting on your hands is your choice.
On my server we dont sit on our hands and we have fun every single night. Its not all about winning. Play the game, winning is only a bonus.
Every exit from any starting point in any BL is currently being camped by 20+ with siege, for the 2nd week in a row now. Our server died last week and we’re losing more people this week. I do not care about winning, I do care that I cannot even set foot outside a spawn. But yeah sit on the high horse, tell us all we should do this or that.
My high horse? Ive played on kaineng from the beginning, we were camped for FOUR WEEKS into our spawn, I dont want to hear it from you. DId you know there are at least 3 ways out of the spawn room? Do you know we used them to take supply camps, and if the enemy was responsive we abandoned them and took another, and another, if they werent we camped them killing the enemy 2-10 at a time as they tried to retake it.
It was lots of fun. So please refrain from telling me to get off my high horse, ive been ‘spawn camped’ far more than you have.
The majority of the problem is player morale, like you demonstrate. Players with thin skin that cant think outside the box other than to attack head on the siege that is camping them instead of simply going around it and having fun actually playing the game.
I bet you wouldnt be spawn camped if people like you didnt log into your spawn and instantly give up, repeat that x50, and you probably could have had a force running around that could take towers and threaten forts.
Oh boo hoo i’m camped by siege, ive had worse.
Fair enough. I did say we are being camped at every exit, and truth be told, due to some bug? no one can leave through a front gate due to loading screen errors. This also might be due to my servers inability to field more than 30, in total.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Sitting on your hands is your choice.
On my server we dont sit on our hands and we have fun every single night. Its not all about winning. Play the game, winning is only a bonus.
Every exit from any starting point in any BL is currently being camped by 20+ with siege, for the 2nd week in a row now. Our server died last week and we’re losing more people this week. I do not care about winning, I do care that I cannot even set foot outside a spawn. But yeah sit on the high horse, tell us all we should do this or that.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Go back to 24 hour matches until you can fix this stuff, getting blown out and sitting on your hands for 6 days is old. You will kill the populations of losing servers if you do not do something fast.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
Oh and for clarification, behind this spawn camping ball of awesome we have siege!
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
I loved how all last week, YB went on and on about being spawn camped, how it was bad play. So this week, I figure us here at GoM, even though we knew we would be out numbered by quite a bit(We lost most of our WvWers after last weeks blowout) atleast would have some good clean play.
And then there’s this.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
The entirety of the server is not responsible for this. In fact, some of us were actively trying to get people to abandon towers and let both servers gain some ground in the EB so that we could encourage more participation from all servers vs. just spawn camping.
It sort of worked for a bit for Yaks, they took a few towers to the north, but then some people got angry at the suggestion of letting Yaks gain some ground, and zerged back. (they felt that because people spent coin on upgrades, we should defend everything to the last man instead of trying to promote some fun in WvW). I actually angered a few people suggesting we hold back a bit.
SoR as a whole isn’t responsible for camping and the like. Many of us spent the time doing map completion and jumping puzzles. There are a select few who felt the need to inflate their egos a bit but we can’t control individual players on our server. I was even told I was growing overconfident when I suggested we let GoM and Yaks take their respective corners of the EB when we had a 250k point lead that technically wouldnt have been overcome in the amount of time left in the week.
You guys could have easily left your spawn using the other 2 exits, but a vast majority of players felt the need to run straight out to the awaiting campers. We can’t be blamed for players who couldn’t learn to, you know, use a different exit and not die like a lemming. I’m not defending the campers at all, just pointing out that theres 3 exits to the spawn, use them.
I understand that and the few players we have left do as well, in regards to exits from camps. Those who do crap like camping points on the map after a blowout win, know who they are. No one is blaming the entire server, regardless you all benefited from this type of play.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
TW video above shows good tactics, to break aggro to heal is one everyone can learn from, your not doing your team much good in downed state. Some good tactical books for study: the Bible, U.S. army ranger hand book, Combat Techniques is the modern spec ops basic hand book. My favorite is “How to win on the battlefield” it shows 25 key tactics from history why and how they worked so well.
Out of curiosity how does the Bible help with tactics? I don’t recall ever seeing it referenced for tactics. Just asking for clarification.
I think the only book about 80% of the people I’ve seen on your server have read is “How to Zerg by Zergy McZergienstien”
They only zerg as there is absolutely nothing left for them to do, its either run around as a mass pack killing champion mobs, or spawn camping really. Normally we’re semi-organized, but this week hasn’t really allowed for much to go on. If the enemy only holds a handful of points (usually 1 or 2) what do you expect them to do? trickle in one by one?
I would expect them to understand satire.
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack
TW video above shows good tactics, to break aggro to heal is one everyone can learn from, your not doing your team much good in downed state. Some good tactical books for study: the Bible, U.S. army ranger hand book, Combat Techniques is the modern spec ops basic hand book. My favorite is “How to win on the battlefield” it shows 25 key tactics from history why and how they worked so well.
Out of curiosity how does the Bible help with tactics? I don’t recall ever seeing it referenced for tactics. Just asking for clarification.
I think the only book about 80% of the people I’ve seen on your server have read is “How to Zerg by Zergy McZergienstien”
When you are out numbered, and the situation is hopeless, you have no option-you must attack