Guild Wars 2

Congrats to CHOO on their GvG.

BLNT killing spectators? Really dudes?

Ferris Bewler.9706:

Yes please enlighten us as to what other guilds BG got in the last 1-2 weeks? Seems you know more than the people of Blackgate, my guild included which is part of the war council.. So yeah please feel free to tell me who else did we massively and magically recruit in the last 2 weeks?

Also I thinks its hilarious, go back to the last 2 weeks before seasons and read all the posts from mostly these same trolls and forum wariors from JQ and SOR… Not 1 of you gave BG a chance to win in our 1 v 1 matchups much less a 3 way… Not 1 of you posted anything other to than the fact BG would get their butts kicked in seasons and the best we could do is 3rd at best! Yall remember those posts? Cause guess what… we here at BG remember them.. and whether you show up or dont show up over the season i dont really care. Beating your server to dust is still satisfying for me, Hopefully out of the rubble a real fight will arise.

Is the cutoff just two weeks? Interesting you don’t mention anything about the 12 NA guilds you bought 3 weeks ago…

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Anyone from T2 in the summer knows what a tool he is. Him and mayoken on DB were pushing guilds to join them harder than I’ve ever seen any T1 server. To the point that mayoken insulted RE for joining TC… and then months down the line joined TC and was a member of RE. Bandwaggons be foolish son.

You should’ve been there for the drama of why Mayo left CO and went to RE. Now Mayo is in PLX, kitten . Its like Noodles driving a water truck and Mayo running into him with a vinegar truck: boom! PLX.

Liquid.9672:

LOL @ EB tonight. Makes no sense but whatever.

We were farming for Jarvin’s precursor. (Congrats to you, my friend!)

style.6173:

PredatoR.5247:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vmOUghyWjM

You guys are seriously skilled. Just can’t keep track of which server you are on.

Very tight knit, good coordination, very disciplined following the leader. It’s also very easily countered.

mcarswell.3768:

as already discussed in this thread, the point per tick mechanic eliminates the balancing effect of having 3 (instead of 2) servers matched against each other.

Anet should get rid of PPT entirely!

Points should be awarded on event completion only. This would solve the coverage problems since if a server “nightcapped” everything they would only get points when they first captured each objective. It would also greatly reward defending, since a long siege can go through several defense events but only 1 (if successful) capture event.

Thoughts?

Each time you capture something, it is an event: meaning you get points on events only. The three servers are not meant for balance, they are meant for another dynamic. If you want to gang up, obviously you stop attacking the server you want to ally with.

PPT is really the only solution to track (with snapshots) what is going on at any given time. Overall, those who hold the map longest (based on the snapshots) should win the matchup. Ganging up on the weak server is usually the sign of weak and lazy commanders.

Noodica.5428:

I know DB lost everyone.. but can someone fill me in on where they went?

Long story short: DB guilds couldn’t play nice together. Guilds like HERO would specifically call out/make fun of other commanders trying command in EB; guild meetings were ALWAYS about the same things that everyone wanted to fix but no one would; no one would get onto TS and when they did they were immediately banned for being a spy. Everyone just got tired of it.

I will say that I am enjoying my time on Anvil Rock. No pressure, I don’t worry about anyone knowing anything, and I can command in EB whenever I want. And I can avoid Agg, who seem to be looking for me for some reason…

Zen.1965:

The two guilds decide they enjoyed the fight and would really like to just test their metal against each other. They go way the hell out of the way and fight it out for a while.

To this situation you respond “OMFG THEY’RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO WVW” and kitten like that? Who the hell elected you time keeper? Should these people punch a time card when they log in that you’ll check at the end of every day too? Why aren’t you kittening about ppl akitteng, or uplevels kitten ing themselves into SM, or the mass of people running past 3 superior ACs in a lords room that have 4 mins left on timer? Or why aren’t you getting anal about some other aspect of “not contributing” that takes place EVERYWHERE!?

Just to clarify: I TOTALLY support GvG. It highlights your weaknesses, makes the individuals better, which makes the guilds better, which makes servers better, which means we all benefit. Better teamwork, better cooperation, better fights, more fun. Let em GvG… they are completely out of the way, not hurting anyone, and taking a boring tues/wed/thurs night and making it fun.

And yes, I also fight non-stop for PPT. You are welcome for the server match-ups you get because of me and everyone else who fights for PPT.

UltraHiDef.4809:

I agree with war, if you still play for the PPT in 2013. You should just uninstall the game and start doing something more meaningful.

You know you have the other side that says that if you are not contributing to WvW you should uninstall the game and start doing something more meaningful.

Just sayin.

Am I the only one around here that understands that the 2 guilds GvGing would still be on the map regardless if they were GvGing or WvWing? Hence, the que would be the same? All GvG does is remove the pug equation from the fight.

Phantom.8130:

actually, it looks like if maguuma really takes it to DB all week, you guys could gain enough to get you in contention for the gold league. you’d have to be relentless and merciless this week, to get as much of a boost as possible. then the next two weeks would be a pretty close race between you, DB and SoS. so, at least for the next couple weeks, your WvW performance will actually have some significance for you three.

Just checked it. According to Mos Millenium, Mag has moved up to 7th and DB has dropped to 8th. Maguuma will just have to beat SoS which should be easy at the present rate.

Edit: SBI will probably pass DB by the end of the weekend, and EBay might pass them by the time reset comes around. Which means DB should be in 10th place by this time next week.

Great fight defending your garrison TC. You are the undisputed Kings of trolling the circle/ ressing the lord.

Loved the fights with the Agg/NS/HzH “training” crew as well. Rumor is Agg might be leaving the game forever? Please don’t leave us Jericho… we were just getting started again…

junglizm.5843:

This thread is so full of bad advice and off topic information.

1. He said he wanted to play a Tanky Support Warrior
2. He said he planned on using it for Havoc

Then you guys go on to talk about how damage supports the team better and give him all this BS frontline/backline zerg surfing advice.

LOL

The sad thing is, that even the zerg surfing advice is wrong. Frontline Warriors running glass damage specs are rally bots. Frontline doesn’t do damage, the backline does. Anyone who has ever watched a GvG of a zerg busting squad on youtube would be able to get this.

Shout warriors are the frontline, with shout guardians. They are the core of any competent frontline in any large fight. If your DPS spec is alive in a frontline fight, its not because your are a super awesome player, it is because you had better shout heavies keeping your HP up or their backline DPS was too garbage to kill you in the first place.

Finally for Havoc, and Tanky Support there is no other build that a warrior can do other than a SWH/H Shout bunker.

Do you need DPS for Havoc? Of course.

Does it have to be a Warrior? No.

Warriors are great as Roamers with DPS heavy specs, in team fights though, there are other classes that can burst better without having to risk their body in a melee cleave train. If you have good shout warriors backing you up and you wanna play a Tank DPS, go for it, there are many viable builds.

But this guy said Tanky + Support + Havoc so if your advice doesn’t cover that, it really is worthless here.

edited: you are right. go shout build.

Aomine.5012

Actually, I’m a DB native.
It almost always says “outnumbered” in EB, and other BLs.
At prime time (7~9 pm), we were actually trying to take keep and towers back with around 6~10 people only.
Most people basically just give up this week’s WvW.

The people from big city really should come out their high above heaven sometimes.

That’s weird; I thought Baritzu and HERO could cover EB no problem… Did they transfer out or something?

LOL at this thread.

So it comes down to this… do you want to be front line or back line? If you don’t like running through the middle of a zerg, you should run a shout build and stay on the back line to try and take care of the 5 people around you that can’t figure out how to put on a condition removal or push #6.

Thustlewhumber.7416:

Hi Agg.

We missed you.

Oh hi NS. Missed you too

Hi Agg.

We missed you.

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Furiousbeard.7602:

And did rB jump ship to SOR and gloat about beating on DB? That’s classy

rB, real Bandwagoners…

No, we are going to server that takes WvW way more serious than DB: Anvil Rock.

We were outnumbered on SoRBL all reset with no que. As soon as scores reset, it was a “one click” entrance… lol.

But rB had fun, lots of laughs, moral was high. Looks like about half our guild has made the transfer, the other half will go on Sunday. I recommend you guys double team DB all week… that would make our moral go even higher

Heizero.9183:

Yup, this is definitely what i wanted to see in wvw! (I’m GoM btw, y’know the non-existent server in this matchup) At least we managed to grab our bloodlust back from kain, not that it will last very long T.T

Edit: Just lost Bloodlust again.

Wow, haven’t seen Kain pull 660ppt since War Machine and Cryptic Omen ruled the server there. Of course, we pulled 695’s in those days…

Obviously this has nothing to do with the buff. Kaineng was doing this to you guys over the weekend as well. You have a rank 14 server going against a rank 19 and 21. It would be like Blackgate going against Dragonbrand and Maguuma. Kaineng also barely broke 100k last week while Dragonbrand almost hit 400k.

Although this seems like another Orbs of Power (OP) situation, it’s more of a place for sPvPers to hang out other than kitten island.

Shout out to YB, they did very well in their BL last night. Didn’t see Kain once though.

Hello to CNB from the old Cryptic Omen!

warsock.7830:

rB had a guild mission night and a review of AGGs WvW rules. Most of the guild is up to speed on what Jericho expects from us, but we do have rebels. Our next actually WvW night is Thursday. Hump day Spvp tomorrow. See ya around!

They really did make a list of rules? Let me guess…

1) We expect full access to your TS.
2) When the GVG doesn’t go our way, we will keep calling zergs from other maps until it does go our way.
3) We will only post excellently edited video’s showing that it goes our way.
4) Even when we lose, we expect to maintain #1 NA guild status.
5) If anything to the contrary shows up anywhere, we will lie about it then transfer servers.
6) If we transfer to your server, do not expect us to cap anything.
7) We will only contribute as much to WvW as the PvErs do.
8) We don’t fight sentrys, take camps/towers/etc as the NPC’s have yet to adhere to our rules.
9) Do not, under any circumstances, involve Dekar. That guy is an kitten hole.
10) 15v15? Are you cray cray?

x per fection x.2096:

I don’t think anyone should miss out on what was obviously the best part of the night.

Number 1 Portal NA – http://youtu.be/9Oc6JpT-BFU

Classic.

Darius Glazkov.9750:

Thustlewhumber.7416:

In other news:

i saw that..and was very confused..

Hey! There I am!

Tricare.2946:

I’ll be sure to post more of you getting wiped in 4v10’s

Actually, those guys were kicked from the guild for dishonoring us. Then we drove to their house and beat them with their own mothers. Then we put in a call into Jericho and apologized for scaring them with golems, and we are in the works for joining up with Agg on Sorrow’s Furnace server. We will be renamed for Jericho’s wardrobe, Dirty Rotten kitten Grabbers [DrAg]

In other news:

Aeros.2046:

So, yeah. Tonight. Once again, war was hell. For 7 hours, the brave soldiers of the pass waged brutal combat in our borderlands. The battle ended with the total cleansing of our borderlands and the capture of stonemist. Hats off to Maguuma and Dragonbrand. You are the hardest servers we have fought in months. We know the retaliation for our continued survival will be swift, and fierce. But we take heart in denying DB an upgraded SM, and Maguuma that waypoint in our hills.

Incidentally, people have asked for my picture so they can know when they have killed me. By all means, please. Come at me, I love fights and am here to deliver, even if I die horribly in the process. Here I am, sitting on your scout inside SM’s lords room that we took about 30 minutes ago.

I like you guys.

Just popping in to see what you guys did to kitten IoJ off, lol. You don’t see 665ppt too often these days…

Looking at the scores, DB has less than 1k lead, and BP is only around 2k behind Mag. I would’ve said DB was a better server than this… but…

Good fights from both sides last night on MagBL. Keep it up guys.

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Halo.8976:

Can we get back to Agg spying on DB’s teamspeak drama? That was pretty good one.

It’s just amazing to me how fast a guild can go from “respected” to “Mayoken” in the blink of one stupid troll moment. :p

So, the self proclaimed #1 NA guild gets hilariously wiped, realizes they suck, then joins the DB TS to figure out where we are so they can avoid us?

Zero respect Agg… zero.

To all: I apologize for this mucking up the thread.

Greens: I don’t care who you followed or who taught you what. Make the commitment, spend 100g, and learn that everyone who follows a commander hates their decisions. It’s the nature of being a commander.

2nd: The 2v1 thing is UNWRITTEN; meaning that if I decide to take the left side of a map, naturally whoever is on the right side knows that I am taking the left. We don’t mess with each other unless provoked. (well kitten.. now it is written…) You don’t contact other commanders on other servers to join them, no matter how out of the box you may think it is.

Here is the deal; TC will win, no one here can stop it. All we can do is decide if we want to jack with TC’s bl or Mag’s bl. Mag is hopefully cool and understands where their server is in the big scheme of things, so hopefully they understand that TC is the target. If not, they should understand they don’t have the numbers for a sustainable amount of time. As for DB, we understand… which is why we did a 50 Omega golem rush on TCBL to break all their waypoints…

Also Greens, you were TEMP banned, (which should be perma banned imho) which doesn’t amount to anything in the big scheme of things. Stop bringing this drama to the forums: you are making too big a deal over nothing.

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Thustlewhumber.7416:

So you have never had a mic, which means you are probably new to commanding. Usually if you do something stupid commanding, people just stop following you. You don’t get banned from TS unless you are doing stupid stuff on TS.

I’ve got a mic/headset, but you’re missing the point entirely. You obviously missed some of my other posts that explained this. I don’t even have a commander tag. A tag doesn’t make you a commander, it just means you spent 100 gold to put on a blue dorito hat. I’m not at all new to commanding. I was here leading my guild members in up to three teams at any given time long before any of the current commanders were here. I learned from people like Edgar the Dyslexic, Kelvingts and Miss Terribad. Try commanding three teams with text chat only and see how well you do. I did it, and so did all of the commanders I mentioned above. It’s a lot easier when you’re all in the same guild and your teams are structured and disciplined to the task at hand.
I got banned from TS because someone in the channel decided to start calling me an idiot and many other names I won’t mention and I called him on it via in-game chat. Yes, I have a mic/headset, somewhere in the 50 or so boxes of stuff in the garage after recently moving and I’m just too kitten lazy to dig through them all to find it. So yes, I did get banned even though I never uttered a word on TS. If i wanted to do stupid stuff in TS, I’d go to our own channel so as not to disrupt others efforts. Just 1-2 minutes prior to being banned, I heard the guy telling someone to ban me from the server. What I thought was funny about the situation was they were muting me in TS when I wasn’t even speaking and they could clearly see my mic/ was disabled. This is how the buddy system and abuse of privileges work. Someone gets mad and all of the sudden they don’t want to let you play with their toys. LOL.

So you have never had a mic, which means you are probably new to commanding. Usually if you do something stupid commanding, people just stop following you. You don’t get banned from TS unless you are doing stupid stuff on TS.

I will just leave this here for TC.

Here is the bottom line:

Running with a group (big or small) is rewarding. If you get over 15 people on TeamSpeak, you can take down objectives relatively quickly = more $$/exp/karma/ppt/etc. It’s fun, promotes friendship, and makes you better at WvW.

If you like big groups to do this with: go with an upper level tier. Very few PvErs, and most of the server lives for the community that WvW provides.

If you like smaller groups: go with a lower level tier. Mainly PvErs that dabble in WvW every now and then, but it is rewarding to take a garrison or SMC with 10 people.

And most important: don’t listen to Martolly; he’s either clueless or just trolling.

Ok, so.. everyone is rB is cool… we will walk up /waving then /dance-ing. Let’s hang out, keep it real.

etrigan.4213:

We also sent them Derv and GODS…and that has completely worked in our favor.

You suck! :P

Great thread. I like how you defend your build, because it shows that you put some thought/time/effort into it. It is a great example of a T1-T3 necro, vs a T4 or below necro, which have different WvW situations altogether.

Dekar is going to probably kill me, but I am going to try this build out and see how it works.

Edit: quick question; Since this is based around wells, can you tell me what wells you would use, when you would use them, and why you would use them?

670 PPT? Nice job IoJ.

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

kurtosis.9526:

The problem is, Crit Damage is the most optimal choice in terms of stat point costs for Ascended trinkets. So I’d rather go with Cavalier Ascended trinkets, Soldiers/Sentinels everywhere else, and completely sacrifice Precision, which you can get from Traits, Sigils, Boons, and Buffs instead.

Yep, well aware of how crit damage optimisation works. I think you are missing my point (which admittedly I didn’t make very well). What I am saying is you that when you try to put crit damage and precision into a tank build you are turning it into a balanced build. That is the answer to your question of “why are T1 warriors are tougher than me?”. Answer: You are doing balanced (partial tank) and they are doing full tank.

Try this: http://goo.gl/cojkHW
(also use a bloodlust stacking weapon)

Not sure how accurate intothemists.com is (and I’m not near my gw2 PC) – but that ends up with:

Health 28712
Armor 3290
Attack 3423 (not including Bloodlust stacking)
Critical Hit 4% (i.e., zero extra precision)
Critical Damage 15% (incidental)
Condition Duration (self) -65%
Stun Duration (self) -30%
Healing Power 300
Boon Duration 10%
Burst Recharge 15% (incidental)
Condition Duration 15% (incidental)

Apart from traits, everything involves stacking power, toughness and vitality in some form – then the build focuses on stun reduction, conditon reduction and dodging.

You have 3 stunbreakers (my favourite is Stomp), banner for rezzing the downies and buffing your team mates, 20% stability uptime and lots of dodges. F1 skill and weapon swap give 50% endurance return (extra dodge) and the two stances are giving you 8 seconds vigor. You have Blast finishers (stomp, warhorn 5) for water and lightning fields.

Sigil of Restoration is constantly healing you while people in the enemy zerg (that you have tagged) are being finished. That sigil keeps your sustain really high.

I haven’t had time to test the Healing Signet after the buff so I’m not sure if that would be a better replacement for Healing Surge.

kurtosis.9526:

This really depends on guild comp. If you have, say, 5 Wars and 5 Guards in your frontline, all running Soldier Runes, that’s more effective condition removal than Melandru + Lemongrass Poultry Soup.

But if on the other hand you run solo a lot, or with pug/militia zergs, or guild groups that don’t require specific builds, then Melandru + Soup + Dogged March + Cleansing Ire is a better option for dealing with conditions.

I think shout heal builds are better in PUG groups to keep the PUGs from dying. Guildies generally can look after themselves.

Melandru does stun duration reductions in addition to conditon reduction. In a T1 zerg ball the amount of warriors doing Earthshaker is usually off the scale. Reducing those stuns to nearly nothing makes a big difference to not getting steam rolled by the hammer train.

Even if you ignore the stun duration, then look at what you give up for that condition cleansing – it will be 1 to 3 utility slots taken up with shouts (depending on how many shouts each warrior runs) on all 5 of your guild’s warriors. Running Melandru means you can now get rid of your shout utility skill(s) and shout traits and put something better than a shout in its place.
You can also replace the shout traits with something useful.
Imagine your 5 condi clearing warriors now running Stomp.
Bodies flying everywhere while they use perma vigor to dodge the hammer train.

Just popped in to say that this build is probably the perfect WvW build, and our guild pretty much runs this exact build with just a few slight variations. I tried the restoration sigil and stomp last night, and now those are going to be permanent additions – great tip!

Very interested to see what happens on this matchup.

I personally love this matchup. I was with the old Cryptic Omen guild all the way to T2, and have seen matchups with pretty much every server. BG is clearly far and away the best wvw server right now, and I think we have learned alot from both BG and SOR this round.

I hope next week is SOR/JQ/DB!

Vespirisa.1497:

Looking to fight some old CO members. :>

We are all in rB and were fighting you in EB all reset.

eithinan.9841:

You are so cute. Most people with half a brain stopped caring about PPT when they started the random matches. The only place it matters is the T1 matches(rank 1,2,3 just because Anet blew up the tiers doesn’t meant the tiers don’t exist. Please don’t be stupid)

Send all your unwanted siege to me please… we (commanders) spend way too much money trying to keep our PPT up. If you don’t care, at least you can donate to those that do.

Eviator.9746:

Thustlewhumber.7416:

Words of wisdom from Queen Fifty Shades.

Uh oh, is that DB internal drama we’re posting? We don’t need that.

Actually TC/Rethesis drama. deleted though

NeptuneAvenger.6791:

I’m just going to leave this here.

Only took us a week (;

For whakittens worth, you guys were great to play against. You did what you could with what you could, and that’s all that matters. Understand that CD will go into the next matches with greater courage, greater commitment, and greater player bonds. You guys are stronger now than what you were a week ago, and that counts.

Peace out! Look forward to the future matchups with you!

warsock.7830:

rB also havin a blast :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL96eswBbsE&feature=share&list=UU9JX1_v8MMPfGMLpUPzDxGw

2:00 to 2:45 is my favorite part… with 2:30 giving me goosebumps everytime. :-) Hard to believe all this happened within just a few hours.

It’s WvWvW. You are either double teaming or getting double teamed at any given time.

I thoroughly enjoyed last night (86 badges), but I am enjoying this morning’s postings more.