here are some pics of nsp and hod going at it.. we watched for as long as you would let us before you killed us.. but i thought maybe you would like to have an audience point of view so i took them for you.
was fun to watch too.
And yes, that fight was amazingly fun. It looks like a lot more because of all the xoxo mesmers.
:)
To the solo Ele I ran into around Speldan, from NSP (Guild was [Os] I believe.) What an epic fight, lol. That’s the kind of solo stuff I like.
Was it a female ele with arah armor and a toy staff?
I forget if it was me or not. but it sounds like something I would do…
I saw the toy staff, but when I target you, I don’t see an Arah headpiece, but instead a wrap that I don’t recognize. Anyway I like the wrap, just wondered what it was. (Hope I’ve got the right player: Os ele, commander, fond of GoM Hills).
Yup. Very fond <3
And it’s devout. It’s not the full arah set skins, but it’s what people can recognize as arah.
:) Dats me!
D: I forgot our fight, but I have so many every day that it all blurs together what with not sleeping ever and all that. I’m sure it was as epic as you say and we both left happy!
Edit: And I am really frickin’ glad you like the wrap. some of my guildies tell me it’s booty, but I LIKE IT!
<3
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ZoS is endorsed and well loved by everyone on the server, the end.
I also want to make sweet sweet love to several of their ranking officers.
Oh my…
You are at the top of my list…
BE WARNED.
I’d say that to your guildies, god kitten xD I mean, hell, I don’t have a problem with you guys but there’s a couple right now who are just being so obscenely obnoxious in map chat. It’s cute, but their egos are a bit inflated.
Let me guess, they were talking about a zerg related topic?
Actually, they threw this huge fit because my guild and I were taking a tower and apparently we only play for points and “what have points ever gotten us?” It was pretty funny, considering the only reason we were capping that tower was so we could provoke more NSP zergs to come at us for more kills, and that’s all the PAXA people were saying they were there for. They were bragging about how they go 4v10 and kitten everyone and how they get 4x our kills every day, etc etc. Considering my guild and I are pretty well known among our server for wiping zergs twice, thrice our size, their huge egos made me chuckle.
They are your problem now! MUAHAHAHAHAH!
To the char warrior at 3AM est who I waved at from the WvW guild.
I didn’t mean to hurt you. I just wanted a hug, I swear.
To the solo Ele I ran into around Speldan, from NSP (Guild was [Os] I believe.) What an epic fight, lol. That’s the kind of solo stuff I like.
Was it a female ele with arah armor and a toy staff?
I forget if it was me or not. but it sounds like something I would do…
ZoS is endorsed and well loved by everyone on the server, the end.
I also want to make sweet sweet love to several of their ranking officers.
Smitry don’t sell yourself short as a mesmer , I’ve seen you play and we’ve had some serious fun. I wouldn’t consider that a fail at all. Torwynd , thank you for the props for our guild, these guys I play with in XOXO do something everyday that makes my head spin, really a group of creative skilled players.
As for killing Carebears lol. I’ve played with fee enough to know that we are meant to have picnics and pancakes on the battlefield side by side.
Love ya
I can openly say I’m in love and want to marry every single one of their members.
Every single kitten one.
to the oS guild… i tip my hat off to you. impressive stuff
Thank you!
The tag is [Os] Sorry, I’m a woman, nitpicky and all that. We work very hard to take your things.
Seriously??? First thread closed to another PAXA vs. Os forum battle? Wow…
And I wasn’t there for it? Shame.
D: I’m always at least mentioned. Lemme go back and read it.
Nuts to that thread, this thread has hookers!
They did bring me up!
I’m popular now, just like PAXA!
WHOO!
Also, too busy sleeping, almost rank 30, hard to make levels when commanding though.
Seriously??? First thread closed to another PAXA vs. Os forum battle? Wow…
And I wasn’t there for it? Shame.
D: I’m always at least mentioned. Lemme go back and read it.
Hey guys, Just letting you know, the glitch where we couldn’t get into our keep in NSPBL2 because the doors were blue has been fixed.
:)
Is it just me or did Os grow exponentially. You guys will not leave our BL. Great dedication and good fights! Also, props to your Ele commander that has like rank 20+, thats pretty incredible. And as always, a load of fun fighting XOXO. Sorry that our 2 duels got interrupted Dank. Maybe next time =p
Actually, no we have not.
We have about the same numbers as usual 20-30 reset night peeps. It just looks like more because we usually have a good portion dispersed throughout the nsp map defending. Here we only had to hold a few places and you could see all of us in one spot.
:) glorious isn’t it?
I am also said Ele commander. Working hard for my money.
Ahh, that is you. Now I can put a name to a face. I’ll expect you to have a new title when I see you out and about tonight =p.
You got it. Scout, almost level 25. But guild missions keeping me from my level
Is it just me or did Os grow exponentially. You guys will not leave our BL. Great dedication and good fights! Also, props to your Ele commander that has like rank 20+, thats pretty incredible. And as always, a load of fun fighting XOXO. Sorry that our 2 duels got interrupted Dank. Maybe next time =p
Actually, no we have not.
We have about the same numbers as usual 20-30 reset night peeps. It just looks like more because we usually have a good portion dispersed throughout the nsp map defending. Here we only had to hold a few places and you could see all of us in one spot.
:) glorious isn’t it?
I am also said Ele commander. Working hard for my money.
It’s just ANet’s way of telling us how to play the game and not zerg. You should complain to them and tell them to stop telling you how to play the game.
They aren’t.
If you ever kept up with the updates, you would see custom arena’s coming out in the future. You also see SPvP, another form of small man group play.
Arenanet doesn’t make this game for you.
None of us are that special, especially one guy out of thousands.
You can wait, until then, you have the forums for your small group PvP, eh?
-woosh- right over your head.
:P Sorry, meant to reply to 500 of your earlier posts telling The rest of the server how to play the game, my bad!
I’m going to break it down for you.
Growing Alliance We have a council for the server and an alliance for WvW with several of the servers most dedicated groups, many of us having been on this server since the beginning. The [NSC] features the guild leaders in the council and the [Res] (Resilience) Alliance features our commanders and representatives for easy communication in WvW. We have tons of fun together holding our maps down having cross guild events together.
No Ques That’s right, you will almost never have to wait on getting into WvW, even during prime-time. We do have a que in EB occasionally, but often, it is easy to get in and participate.
No Quitters We are here to stay. Many of our guilds have been here since the beginning including [Zos] Zealots of Shiverpeaks, the first Gw1 guild ever. We aren’t going anywhere so you will always have an active WvW population.
Community Ventrilo We have a community Ventrilo server to help smaller guilds as well as solo players get organized in WvW. This is in addition to our guild vents, which people are always welcome in if they want to coordinate for WvW.
Server Forums Shiverpeaks.com is the official NSP forums, made for our server to have happy discussion with one another and post on our successes together!
Multicultural Server NSP is wide open for multicultural guilds and players. We have a hefty French speaking population with many Quebec guilds available for players to join if interested.
Free Transfers (Limited Time) During the night, you will find transferring to NSP completely free until April 1st. We are considered a Medium Population server and are always looking for new people interested in transferring here.
Happy People We as a server are some of the funnest bunch around. Even those who have left the server guest to our Lions Arch for our famous shenanigans. Sometimes even the servers we fight send people on over to Lions Arch to join in on the fun! You can’t go wrong with happy people on our server!
So come on down to NSP before the free transfers are over!
Want more information?
Please feel free to contact me or any other member of our server for more information. Mail me here or in game; send me a PM or even contact me for Ventrilo information and I can have you come on in and talk personally to some of our guild leaders and server members.
:)
My rank is 20, highest on SoR server (that we know of) is 24.
Going for supply cap I see?
Most possibly, alot of people in Tier 1 are saving there points until we know exactly what is the best to level up (i.e. most game-changing/ bugged ect)
Rank 2 Ballista Mastery with Rank 5 Siege Mastery for 30% more damage on a Superior Ballista does seem to be pretty deadly.
Depends on your class.
I am an ele, so my job is CC/aoe/healing, not necessarily the best to be sitting on a ballista, I let the heavies do the dirty work.
I am going for guards simply because if these zergs calm down (Which they are starting to) I can always flip camps 5% faster for faster Wxp
^ that guy. Right dere.
18, To my knowledge, highest on NSP.
D:
It’s harder in the lower tiers.
It’s just ANet’s way of telling us how to play the game and not zerg. You should complain to them and tell them to stop telling you how to play the game.
They aren’t.
If you ever kept up with the updates, you would see custom arena’s coming out in the future. You also see SPvP, another form of small man group play.
Arenanet doesn’t make this game for you. None of us are that special, especially one guy out of thousands.
You can wait, until then, you have the forums for your small group PvP, eh?
Just wondering if HOD ever attacks NSP or is the sole focus on GOM?
Believe me, at 1 AM they still had a 30-40 man in our BL.
I don’t know how many times they got to inner BAY
They also took our garrison because no one checked the swords while we were in GOM BL and someone told us they were in… When they were in…
So, yeah Lazy at scouting this week.
Join us!
We have some of the most interesting times with great match ups and very special (Special) people!
Join NSP!
Shiverpeaks.com yo!
[Bs] [DN] send me a pm if you get a chance. Like to be able to fight (non carebear set up) without 400 adds.
No thanks dude, you guys are quite annoying to fight. Bunker warrior guardian for CC + a DPS thief in perma stealth.
We don’t set up 1on1 matches. We aren’t about our “image” or “pride”. We WvW to have fun, and frankly, facing you isn’t very fun. Last time I went 3on3 with you guys it lasted about 10-15 mins with no results, until more of my guildies came and your thief just picked us off one by one while when you got low on health you just ran back into your spawn.
Again, no thanks. We’ll fight when we randomly run into you, just like everyone else.
So basically you didn’t like losing. Got it. By the way, find me the bunker spec for warrior that is group spec and let me know. All PAXA members run group specs, our guardian runs buff condition removal… How dumb do you sound saying he is bunker. 3 of us beat your 6… Sorry were not sorry
Edit: My intention was never to take the above approach. In fact wanted to compliment you guys on being some of the most competent well organized group we’ve fought in a while. But then you decide to take the approach you did at the same time xomplaining we run bunker builds which non of us run. Thus my response.
Umadbro? I’ll gladly 1v1 you anytime you like. My name is in my sig. PM me. I shall not however, speak for the rest of my guild, or hide behind them as you seem so fond of doing.
Honestly why is it that as soon as we challenge a guild to fight us they start throwing down the 1v1 gauntlets? We didn’t challenge you, nor did we challenge your Mesmer, your ele, or even your guard. We challenged all of you. Now either man up and fight or don’t…but don’t “hide” behind that 1v1 kitten.
I challenge paxa to a 20v30. Because that’s what we fight on a daily basis and build our characters for.
Why should we be forced to fight under your terms?
I DEMAND A 20 MAN PAXA ZERG!
This is for u braveheart
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
you are 1k ahead of me…
We will just have to deal with that!
NO SLEEP GOOOOOOO!!!
[Os] sends 5, got absolutely smoked. Sends 20 to compensate!
Pics plz.
All I saw was Dead Paxa
Yea after you rallied 20 to come find us. You’re garbage in combat lol. Including your bunker warrior and guardian tandem “Spinny spinny spinny” just like ALS.
Pics? All I have is a fraps of us rolling over your dead bodies with the 30 people we killed you and TCMM’s golem rush with.
We are so bad for playing WvW like WvW is supposed to be played.
[Os] sends 5, got absolutely smoked. Sends 20 to compensate!
Pics plz.
All I saw was Dead Paxa
Robert, didn’t you quit GW2?
He is Irish, the Irish speak Gaelic. Robert is in fact, a Germanic name, which isn’t even the same language base as Gaelic, which is of Celtic base. So with that being said, you should at least understand a little bit, as to why his full name isn’t Robert.
Roibeard, didn’t you quit GW2?
As-if.
Yes, he is on hiatus for a while, still making the forums happier with his irishy rants of hilarious goodness.
:)
What do u expect lol, im an engineer if i had stealth and clones i wouldnt have to run either >.>
And engy stealth doesnt count >.> 3 sec every 1 minute.
well..i can teach u to run if u want, that seems the one thing you lack
This is so true. I always believe I’m immortal and bam… I’m dead x.x
Also… I prefer teleporting into the wall, at Hills for example. Haha I hate Phase Retreat sometimes >.<Do you find yourself yelling at the monitor, ‘come get some! You can’t kill me, you stupid -edited for tv-’ right before you die? Or does that only happen to me?
I’m super concentrated and serious when I engage someone else ( or a group). But when I put some music, I start singing and I feel like I was immortal. Probably because I’m enjoying more the song than the game ahah.
Anyway. I had a nice afternoon in GoM borderland with XOXO mesmers. Fun fights and all. And <3 to this ASH commander who seems to really really like me :p
Watching people fight you, Obs, and Andro. is hilarious. I’ve learned from the first several encounters that chasing is always a poor decision =p
I’m still trying to decide if it was funny or just plain ole sad. The effort was certainly there, Looking back on it , its just another fun afternoon for us.
I just enjoy coming in and checking the status of NSP BL to hear “Yeah, We are just farming the lot of them, you can go back to HOD, We got it with all 2 of us”
Warms my heart.
Had some fun times tonight!
Where Jovolt almost kills your engie in the middle of 4-5 others.
Only fair fight in this vid, I think.
Jovolt fighting anything less than 3 people is really unfair on their part.
Toble, I think it is pretty funny how you keep mentioning 1v1s since none of us care about them and are built for group situations. Yes, they are fun but you act like we ask everyone for 1v1s and don’t think you’re good unless you 1v1 haha. 5v5s on the other hand, since it looks like you’re offering we would love to see you out there with one of those!
Time and place!
Today would be best since some of us might have vacation starting tomorrow (Me)
(Fight clubs are always so fun)
You think we can get a 20v20 going as well since thats what we practice on a daily basis, or…?
Toble: quit throwing gas on the fire
D: But I’m at work and can’t play….
I like to see threads burn.
I… probably shouldn’t even bother, but inc another drama post!
I don’t know why you two (Osif, Jscull) are so hung up on this anti-zerg thing.
You still haven’t realized this is a Casual, Mass Scale, PvP environment? The goal is objectives requiring large forces to take, just because we prefer smaller fights and flipping camps doesn’t mean everyone does, in fact lots of people probably came to this game specifically for the large battles. It would be like playing Planetside 2 and complaining about everyone sitting in tank columns and zerging Tech Labs instead of fighting 5v5v5 inside an empty facility because you want k/d.
Despite your best efforts I don’t think this game is going to be DAoC 2.0…Also it looks to me that Toble and others have invited you to have some organized 5v5s, yet you’d rather their guild give up on their overall objective and run around in small groups all night just to please you… come on, how selfish is that?
This stuff is seriously getting childish, everyone just play the stupid game the way they prefer or yell at each other in tells if that’s too complicated.
On that note time to stop feeding the trolls.
Cheers,
Glaez, you’re a cool dude. But if you’re going to include someone in a post, you should probably actually read their posts rather than taking the word of someone that pretty obviously doesn’t like us (in this case me specifically). I have never once complained about zergs. I just respond to the individuals like Plok from BP that gloat about beating us 15v5. I’m completely fine with losing those fights, but I don’t think that it’s anything to gloat about… just as we don’t gloat about beating those solo roamers or smaller groups. Here, I’ll just leave you with a quote of mine from the previous page:
I’ve always said “to each their own” when it comes to what they find fun.
In short, don’t respond with names unless you’ve read their posts.
I like you. Os likes you. We like the fun battles and the trolling we can do. Somehow things such as this are fabricated. So far the things that have been fabricated are pretty lulzy, but you have to understand that a lot of this is the active player imagination here. (Commander tryouts? What is that even? LoL)
I think you guys are absolutely silly and hilarious to do forum battle with, but to get to the “Not like” Level of my book it takes a lot.
Also, what he means is he is reading Jscull’s posts and he is representing you and all of PAXA.
I’m glad you mentioned that you are not a part of that and am glad to know you do not agree with everything Jscull says to try and lure us from our WvW duties, but maybe Jscull doesn’t know he shouldn’t be speaking for you and the rest of paxa?
He kinda makes you guys look silly. :o
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I’m sorry, server. I really should stop, but it is so fun while I am at work to get him to say really stupid stuff.
:)
Tobs, I don’t like that you come on the forums beating your own drum about how your 30 help the server with keep doors…. And yet you don’t even HAVE a drum to beat about other players… Because you don’t fight them unless youre on siege or have a keep door to run into. What you do takes numbers only and less everything else- skill, focus, organization. It’s incredible, in a real pvp environment your 200 person guild minus the few good players we have come across who we have mentioned would be laughed right off the server. Trolling isn’t my goal, making you and robert eat kitten for the crap and slander of other nsp’ers you throw on here daily little girl… Is.
Hey guys. I have been trolled into silence. Os guild doesn’t help this server Win at WvW at all. None of our guilds help.
Also, PAXA has yet to accept my offer for a fight club.
Also, it takes a lot more organization and time and effort to run a 200 man guild and get everyone organized enough to successfully siege than it is to run around and PVP in a group of 5.
Everyone knows this.
No offense, but we could take a 5-man out and do what you do.
You can’t take a 5-man out and do what we do.
Do you even lift?
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HoD, you succeeded at getting our attention.
So for a few moments, we redirected our focus to you.
That’s what we call a BACKLASH. Action, reaction.Yours truly,
-Shiver
NOTE:
I guess old habits die hard, and you went back to allowing the server with a strong lead to rack more free points. Maybe it was not your goal, but that is what you achieved all night long. Playing for 2nd place.That’s sad, come on, play for 1st and lets have a healthy matchup.
Enough of the play for 2nd talk, I had enough of it in the NSP-AR-BP threads when that was going on.
Truth of the matter is people take what they can take. Most of us here just looking for some fun and stuff to kill. We try one thing if we get smashed or just overwhelmed in numbers, we try something else. I cant count the number of times this week Ive seen NSP rolling one side of HoD eb, while GoM rolls the other, not trying to attack Nsp at all. I know points matter and people want to win, but unless the march update changes something to where winning matters I don’t see it changing much. And really I hope it doesn’t. In the lower brackets so much of winning is purely a numbers game and coverage holes. I’d hate to see people start getting awards for that.
Well, you guys did start to push into our borderlands.
We didn’t like that very much and thought your forces would still be as large as they were when you were attacking.
D: Sorry, but points that aren’t GOMs are the best type of points.
@ toble.. i agree alot with what you say.. but to me.. i consider PVDoor not so much undefended but there are not enough defenders to resist your force.. where there really isn’t much of a fight.. sure some defenders would abandon ship but sometimes i dont.. so come get your loot prize with your cap..lol
and as for small scale fights.. well you cant run your wvw build in spvp which is why alot of people go to wvw looking for small scale and 1 v 1.. wish anet would do something about this so people could have duels with their wvw builds without hurting the wvw populace.
ive dueled some PAXA 1 v 1 who were solo roaming.. 1 was a sylvari mesmer which was a long fight and i barely won in the end.. ive also 1 v 1 i think a guardian from Os which was very tough fight.. unfortunately it was in the eb jp and the guardian attacked me first after i ran past but it was still fun.. but it was at the beginning too so i guess it was no big deal anyway
:o I try not to attack people in JPs so wasn’t me! They are making custom arenas for that, so soon we can have GVGs and such! It will be nice.
I understand what PAXA is doing and have never had a problem with it. They apparently don’t like actual WvW though and therefore hate us because we like actual WvW or something like that.
No I dont like people running with 15 around them calling themselves good when they kill 3-4 people. Toble, funny, you have never actually come to find us with anything less than 10. Here’s what none of you [Os] folks ever admit….you will not compete nightly with us fair or even as Osif says….fairish numbers. Because of that reason ALONE you will find no respect from our camp.
Trolling was developed by the WoW creators who allowed 8 year olds to pvp and get away with killing people with 3 buttons. Stealth, Nuke, Stealth. Thus trolling. Unfortunately all the real pvpers have mostly left this game and we’re are left with what every mmo for the last 7 years has been left with after 6 months…carebear zergers. Pvp started in open world settings…not warfronts, so telling us to go back to instance based pvp isn’t where we are from amigo. The only difference is that Anet allows your 30 man protection of just that….having 30. Where I am from, our 8 would have S M O K E D your 30 guys in a 1 minute fight. Anet doesn’t want that because YOU will all leave if we did that on a nightly basis. Cheers…the finance team at ANet favor you baddies.
We run that large because you need that many to take objectives and fight larger zergs.
Yet again, if you want a fight club to prove yourselves, go for it. Other than that, we will continue playing WvW the way it’s meant to be played. We are not going to go out of our way, break up our groups to go 5v5 camp flipping when we have towers to take. You guys really are just trying to distract us from our major objectives.
You play your way, we will play ours. The 1v1’s and 5v5s are open to you if you want, all you have to do it ask. Other than that, wait for custom arenas, then if you are still in WvW and crying about people actually playing WvW, then you really just like crying on forums about people playing the game as intended.
And yes, we are good at WvW. We take objectives, command every day and try to keep the server involved as best we can. I would say that along with a few other guilds on this server, we play very well in WvW and you guys seem to be the only ones not liking it.
Also, Anet didn’t make this game for you. People made this game with the challenge of 30+ people working together at once since there are dozens of games with 5-10 man pvp situations. Anet isn’t going to tailor something already found in another section of the game as well as in other games. They made something new that we are playing correctly and doing well at playing correctly.
As you said about the numbers thing, if the situation was reversed, you would to. Not to mention, you do.
There are plenty of nights you kill solo or duo roamers with groups of 5, so please, leave the numbers game out of this, you play it too. Don’t make me link the video again.
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Work time over, time to actually play! WHEEEE!!!
I love PvForums.
You may never speak on outnumbering. Welcome to PAXA on a nightly basis. Flipping camps, killin’ noobs.
Oh the glory!
And if he killed one or some of us I would have been very impressed! We never stated that we don’t kill when we have more numbers. Why should we not kill solo roamers when they’re perfectly content with killing us if the situation was reversed? We hit larger numbers just as fast as we hit the smaller. You can ask Awakened from [PHZE] who ran with us last night what we did to a much larger Os group. He seemed to enjoy it.
Then you can’t complain when we kill you with 20+
Because by your logic, when the situation is reversed, you would do the same.
So quit complaining already.
Good day! I am the bad Charr Guardian from Splat.
I don’t even know if people know/care about my guild, we are pretty small and casual, but I just feel the need to say a couple things.
@Toble, for what it’s worth I run with an average of 3-5 people a night, we like small man fights, and aside from camps would rather kill enemies than attack objectives. That said, I appreciate the larger guilds such as Os because without those larger guilds to focus on the bigger picture and keep the other large guilds busy, we would just get run down by enemy zergs constantly.
Zerging is part of the game, it always will be and I for one completely understand it. WvW is casual man’s PvP, it lets inexperienced people participate without a ton of pressure on themselves.
I also enjoy the unpredictable nature of it, and the fact that not all fights are created equal. I get annoyed from time to time getting chased down by 20 bloodthirsty people, but that just means my group has overstayed our welcome and got caught. Also let’s be honest, more often than not when my group kills 2-3 times our numbers it’s due to less experienced players or upleveled players on the other side, so advantages go both ways.In the end this is a large scale casual PvP game mode, why does anyone have the right to tell others that their way of playing it is wrong, or makes them a noob, and so on? Everyone has their own perception of fun, and people should do what they prefer.
@PAXA, I love you guys, I don’t always agree with your philosophy, but I enjoy playing with you. I personally love when we get 10-15 people together and go bust the 30 man zergs, I mean you play with what you’re given, and if all you’re given is zergs it’s time to go kill them! Yesterday 6 of us couldn’t find any small fights to save our lives so we zerg busted GoM with some people from our server for over a half hour in the hills/fishing camp/tower area, and it was glorious.
I’ll try to get 5-6 together (Thanks Wafflez/Dravul) and kill your 5-6 more often if you prefer Henge though.I think it’s time NSP stop infighting so much and just go kill the enemy, whichever way they prefer to do so.
Have a wonderful week!
I <3 Wafflez.
But yeah, I agree with stopping the infighting, but PAXA is no longer on NSP.
LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE!
Fair enough, I guess until (if) they come back they’re fair game! Funny video btw.
Thanks, I’ve been holding onto the clip for a rainy day, felt it was a good time to put it up.
:P
People who say go to spvp clearly haven’t played spvp, so I’ll break it down for them.
Its not 5v5 or 8v8. Its 2v1, maybe 3v3 occasionally, and the goal is not to kill players, its to stand in a ring the longest. So the best builds are ones that can keep people out of the ring and live a long time. It is also under a different ruleset than WvW, so certain classes and builds are completely useless there. And finally the gear selection is nowhere near what it is in WvW, which makes getting certain stats impossible.
Also, the only person in our group who can really be considered a bunker is me, the full support guardian. The other people just know how to use abilities to stop incoming damage. And none of us run a “kite and run” build, it would be worthless to our group.
We come to WvW to fight players. To do that we usually have to run around and take camps and sentries and hammer on tower gates and occasionally build siege. None of us like doing these things, we do it just to get you guys out of your towers. And in response, you guys usually throw out 3-4 times our numbers to deal with it.
Do you know how sad it is to run around a few hours a night and find groups of 20+ much more easily than another group of 5? Its so sad we had to transfer to another server just so we could fight our own guild and friends.
The only SPvP I have done has been to do 1v1s, so you are right, I don’t know. What I do know is that you can’t complain about large zergs in a large zerg world.
Also there are plenty of times you have to kill people with 3-4 times their numbers, you you really can not speak on that subject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5IwBHzDk-8&edit=vd
I’m sure a good portion of your time is spent killing under geared or under levelled players as well.
No one ever told you what you do is unacceptable, so who are you to tell us that doing what was meant to be done in WvW is?
No one has ever had a problem with your little 5 man. People think your attitudes suck, but no one has told you what you are doing is wrong, that is, up until you wanted to call out larger guilds for “PvDooring” and the like.
@ toble.. i agree alot with what you say.. but to me.. i consider PVDoor not so much undefended but there are not enough defenders to resist your force.. where there really isn’t much of a fight.. sure some defenders would abandon ship but sometimes i dont.. so come get your loot prize with your cap..lol
and as for small scale fights.. well you cant run your wvw build in spvp which is why alot of people go to wvw looking for small scale and 1 v 1.. wish anet would do something about this so people could have duels with their wvw builds without hurting the wvw populace.
ive dueled some PAXA 1 v 1 who were solo roaming.. 1 was a sylvari mesmer which was a long fight and i barely won in the end.. ive also 1 v 1 i think a guardian from Os which was very tough fight.. unfortunately it was in the eb jp and the guardian attacked me first after i ran past but it was still fun.. but it was at the beginning too so i guess it was no big deal anyway
:o I try not to attack people in JPs so wasn’t me! They are making custom arenas for that, so soon we can have GVGs and such! It will be nice.
I understand what PAXA is doing and have never had a problem with it. They apparently don’t like actual WvW though and therefore hate us because we like actual WvW or something like that.
I like PAXA , I’m saddened that they moved to HoD. They certainly try to get under the skin of the bigger guilds they fight. They also have some skilled players so its not like they kitten talk and can’t back it up.
But in this instance I think they are wrong, Os is a pretty solid wvw guild, even though they refer to the smaller guilds as pugs. Which might come across as offensive to the little teams doing thier best for NSP. Maybe that’s where the friction starts I’m not sure.
Toble take this from me a troll at heart. He’s trying to troll you into making killing them more important then the WvW objectives. Which is a smart move to get into your enemies head , so they push with there anger instead of a clear head.
Nobody thinks of Os as a guild of baddies so I’m not sure why you’d feel the need to explain that much to an Obv trollol comment.
:) Well that’s okay, the post was more for others to debunk the “Commander tryouts” and the like.
It also makes him look stupid for not knowing what Pvdoor means.
Pug means pick up groups. Os when we are not organized are considered pugs as well when they are alone. It’s not derogatory really, it just means they aren’t in vent and aren’t organized with a larger group. Everyone seems to think we have this high and mighty opinion of ourselves. Personally that opinion was by other people putting us in the high and mighty view. We cherish our pugs and need them for this server to survive!
Also, we may have fun killing PAXA on the side, but when our commanders call us back, fun-killing is over, back to work!
And PAXA is serious about not liking us. Dunno what it is, but it was hate at first name-calling when I asked them kindly not to break up a fight club one day and they called me a care bear. Since then, the love of Os has grown and grown!
<3 I just had extra time on my hands and put it to good use.
Good day! I am the bad Charr Guardian from Splat.
I don’t even know if people know/care about my guild, we are pretty small and casual, but I just feel the need to say a couple things.
@Toble, for what it’s worth I run with an average of 3-5 people a night, we like small man fights, and aside from camps would rather kill enemies than attack objectives. That said, I appreciate the larger guilds such as Os because without those larger guilds to focus on the bigger picture and keep the other large guilds busy, we would just get run down by enemy zergs constantly.
Zerging is part of the game, it always will be and I for one completely understand it. WvW is casual man’s PvP, it lets inexperienced people participate without a ton of pressure on themselves.
I also enjoy the unpredictable nature of it, and the fact that not all fights are created equal. I get annoyed from time to time getting chased down by 20 bloodthirsty people, but that just means my group has overstayed our welcome and got caught. Also let’s be honest, more often than not when my group kills 2-3 times our numbers it’s due to less experienced players or upleveled players on the other side, so advantages go both ways.In the end this is a large scale casual PvP game mode, why does anyone have the right to tell others that their way of playing it is wrong, or makes them a noob, and so on? Everyone has their own perception of fun, and people should do what they prefer.
@PAXA, I love you guys, I don’t always agree with your philosophy, but I enjoy playing with you. I personally love when we get 10-15 people together and go bust the 30 man zergs, I mean you play with what you’re given, and if all you’re given is zergs it’s time to go kill them! Yesterday 6 of us couldn’t find any small fights to save our lives so we zerg busted GoM with some people from our server for over a half hour in the hills/fishing camp/tower area, and it was glorious.
I’ll try to get 5-6 together (Thanks Wafflez/Dravul) and kill your 5-6 more often if you prefer Henge though.I think it’s time NSP stop infighting so much and just go kill the enemy, whichever way they prefer to do so.
Have a wonderful week!
I <3 Wafflez.
But yeah, I agree with stopping the infighting, but PAXA is no longer on NSP.
LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE!
Osif, I know it is hard to understand, but you spend half your day on forums kittening about PVDoor when there is a place that was made without PVDoor for 5-8 man small scale PvP that you refuse to take advantage of. It is called the mists if you didn’t know about it.
Also, some of our members have taken your guys alone and have killed them plenty of times. They do it with the utmost respect and take time out of our siege schedule to indulge your 1v1s that you refuse to set up and when members of Os that play hard win, you seem to never mention this. They don’t sit around and gloat about it either, they are very kindly in guild chat and say “I just had a 1v1 with that Paxa again, I won, but good fights all around”
I’m confused why my name popped up in your rant and why you’re taking shots at me specifically since I hardly ever talk about pvdoor. I’ve always said “to each their own” when it comes to what they find fun. Doesn’t mean that I will give them props for sitting on a tower shooting cannons instead of having an actual fight, and I will occasionally poke fun at them for it.
The only time I’ve ever talked about Os was when you decided to insult us on the forums for ganking a fight club, and acted like a bitter little child.
I also think it’s clear that we do give compliments when it is deserved. Jscull even took the time to compliment some Os on the forums, seems like you decided to ignore that part.
I have nothing but respect for Aiden and Dragear, and I’m sure there are other decent players in Os as well. Just like any large guild though, the majority of Os don’t know how to PvP. It’s just a fact. Many of you are bad. Hell, I’d be impressed if any guild of 200+ individuals were skilled as a majority. There’s nothing wrong with it either, numbers in this game accomplishes Anet’s design for WvW, and it’s needed.
I’ve stated plenty of times why we don’t sPvP. I’m getting a little tired of stating over and over again why, so I’ll just sum it up as it’s boring as kitten. Oh, and we enjoy wiping guilds like Os who outnumber us 3-1 most of the time after running their mouths at us. Lol Anths, what a generic e-tough guy.
You may never speak on outnumbering. Welcome to PAXA on a nightly basis. Flipping camps, killin’ noobs.
Oh the glory!
Like [ALS], don’t like people and guilds that run 20-50, run their mouths all up and down the forums slandering others, and boasting about how they took a door down and some “fortified” keep. Or how they killed 1-2 out of the 5 man their 30 hit and brag about it. [ALS] did it and [Os] is the same way. Host “commander tryouts”, go around proclaiming that your commanders are the only ones on the server worth following to absolute pvp noobs….When the truth is the commander tag in the first place is an absolute joke to pvp, let alone fight clubs to test your carebear bunker builds.
Toble since you and “Rob, that isn’t short for Robert” sit in LA on the forums and mostly pvdoor in EB, we haven’t had the fine pleasure of testing your merit as players. But as for the rest of your guild, (and truthfully there is an [Os] condition ranger and a blue dyed guardian that are very solid players, props to you defying the 400 person guild persona) we haven’t come across a fight under 10 that would ever get you close to “smack that’s backed up”.
You don’t know what PVDoor is.
PVDoor is when you take objectives undefended. This is not what we do. Most times we are fighting zergs of 20 as well. We never field more than 35 people, so the 50 is flattering, but not yet.
We never said our commanders are the only worthwhile ones and welcome other commanders to maps constantly and work with other commanders when they or we need help. We have never held commander tryouts, it was commander training for new commanders or commanders who are unaware of certain siege spots.
You say carebear bunker builds when most if not all of your members play bunker type or kite and run type builds. Some of us play bunker because we do actually have to sit in the middle of 20-30 man zergs alone and it does some of us well to be bunker.
Also, the only one who boasts about taking keeps most time is Bird, and he can afford to do that when he is on early morning fighting an organized zerg of 30+ with around 15-20 completely pug characters. him taking a fortified keep like that is something to boast about. The fact that you run around looking for an spvp type fight in a place where people are caring about objectives is not something to boast about. Other than that, there are 200 members in Os. Out of our guild and your guild, a much higher percentage spend their time on forums boasting in your guild than in Os. Please See AR/BP/NSP threads.
WvW has less hardened pvpers who play a different way than SPvpers. Why you want to come in here with a 5 man team verses test your skills against actual Spvpers is beyond me. Osif, I know it is hard to understand, but you spend half your day on forums kittening about PVDoor when there is a place that was made without PVDoor for 5-8 man small scale PvP that you refuse to take advantage of. It is called the mists if you didn’t know about it.
Also, some of our members have taken your guys alone and have killed them plenty of times. They do it with the utmost respect and take time out of our siege schedule to indulge your 1v1s that you refuse to set up and when members of Os that play hard win, you seem to never mention this. They don’t sit around and gloat about it either, they are very kindly in guild chat and say “I just had a 1v1 with that Paxa again, I won, but good fights all around”
Overall, somehow there is this vision of us as a guild full of baddies that does nothing but gloat when in reality a lot of this is propagandistic, a good portion it it coming from PAXA and related guilds. The reality is, we are a large guild who has a world vs. world focus. We work with many other guilds in order to take large objectives and play and have fun. We do not go into WvW to flip camps or face small groups. Even if our players do kill yours, chances are you are not getting the best fights you can have because many of us run builds for large scale WvW. (Portal mesmer, pure support guardians, staff eles, so on)
If you truly want good small man fights, why is it that you don’t go into SPvP and create a team there to fight people who breath small man pvp and are always on or above your level in every encounter?
It is a serious question and I don’t know why you are allowed to insult having large guilds in a large guild arena when you have a small SPvP interested guild in a large guild arena instead of the mists, where you could achieve what you claim you want all day every day.
Had a decent little fight club going on until some NSP decided to wreck it. Fun while it lasted, though. Let’s host the next one at Lowlands Keep.
We are sorry for the kittens of NSP.. Those where some 10 year olds that need to do that to feel like pros… That guild no longer has any respect, rest assured..
Was fun well it lasted though. Lots of fun.
THAT DOESN’T EVEN MAKE SENSE
You know Paxa moved to HOD, quit lying!
Can’t tell if troll or not.. But you know that wasn’t paxa, right?
Don’t mind Toble, she has some strange fixation with PAXA. :P
And trolling, apparently… *whisper’s.. I think he like you…
She* I love Osif.
And Jscull and Waffie. When I have fight clubs, they show up and break it up.
Cept for recently. They can’t find the fight clubs anymore.
They don’t like me very much, something abut being a a guild with more than 5 people or something, but I still love em.
:)
Well they’re right. I’m not going to name names, but I know exactly who did it, and it was just a well-intentioned NSP player. I wouldn’t call them a WvW noob, but not knowing about the siege cap is probably more common than actually knowing about it. Honestly, if more than 30% of the WvW players at any given time are aware of the cap, I’d be shocked.
I don’t have an NSP or guild tag on my account either, are you going to try attack me and claim I’m some imposter too? Have fun trying to claim you’ve looked through my post history and that somehow proves something.
As for your New Player “facts,” well:
“-Can afford siege.
-Must have paid with gold, not enough time spent in WvW to acquire badges.”A huge number of non-WvW players have significant amounts of siege from completing the jumping puzzle for badges. While these facts might make things slightly less likely (and remember, I pointed out this wasn’t a strictly “new” player, just an uninformed one) it doesn’t even make it unlikely much less impossible.
“-Knew about 5 pieces per space BEFORE he began placing them. "
Don’t know where you would possibly get this idea. If you go look at the placement (namely the ballista on the back of the keep) it’s pretty obvious this isn’t true.
“-Not a part of a large guild.”
Another completely fabricated point with absolutely no logic backing it.
“-Pug must care A LOT about NSP, yet has not come forward to physically say sorry”
The person has come forward, that’s how a number of us know about them. No, they didn’t come out on the forum and reveal who they are and your post is a fantastic case study in why. It’s all but guaranteed kitten like you will immediately and continuously harass this person in game for a little mistake they made. Yeah, they kittened up, and feel bad about it. They’ve apologized to people who matter, and some of those people have relayed that to the rest of the server. There’s absolutely nothing that can be gained by them coming here and revealing to everyone what their account name is, and there’s plenty to be lost. It’s a game, get over it.
“Not to mention, this massive amount of siege has been here since last night. Someone is actively tapping it, all of it.”
Anyone who has played more than 20 minutes of WvW knows this isn’t true. Have you even played this game? I mean seriously? Looks like you know even less than this person about how siege in this game works in relation to cap, spawn limits, and despawn behavior. It’s a known issue that only certain types of siege always despawn, and other types of siege will despawn under certain conditions but not under others (placed on a wall versus placed on the ground, etc). In addition to this, it’s essentially habit for many WvW veterans to touch every single siege weapon they pass. With the siege in question all being in the highest traffic area for NSP on the entire map, you better believe there’s a lot of people refreshing the siege.
Finally, the siege cap that you tried to claim so much about isn’t 55 units. God only knows how you decided to fabricate that number. According to Mike Ferguson:
MikeFergusonThere is also a hard limit to how many weapons can be placed on the map. This map limit is a bit harder to explain as it is based on some internal concepts that don’t translate well to laymans terms, but basically anything that is not a ram counts towards one ‘limit’ for the purpose of this explanation and each team can have up to 100 of these types of weapons out at any time per map. Each team can also have up to 100 rams placed on a map.
So no, there isn’t a “55 siege cap limit.”
Doesn’t know about 5 pieces of siege per certain amount of area yet places all siege in clusters of 5 very tightly.
Keep trying to debunk it.
Also, if you ran the JP’s for achievements, you would be running 4 total. That is 2 pieces of siege per which is 8 pieces.
So you are saying this person does WvW jumping puzzles for fun without actually caring about WvW well over 15 times extra. (Given the amount of golems and trebs and rams he must have gotten)
Keep going. I like this story. It’s quite out there.
Okay, the keep wasting siege mystery has been solved. The NSP server has the person who did it and apparently it was a mistake and they’re very sorry and remorseful. It was a misguided but well-intentioned new player unfamiliar with how WvW works. They wanted to “pimp out” the keep to make it look cool and didn’t realize that putting up siege would waste the supply. So looks like GoM is off the hook for that. Golem suiciding and spies leaking intel still needs to be addressed and we still need to make sure sabatours and other disreputable types don’t ruin the matches but I think we can lay that mystery to rest and focus on the good fight ahead.
So you are saying, proud member of NSP without forum tag detailing your server and guild, is that there is a person who had 20+ gold worth of siege to spare, time to build it all, unfamiliar with WvW player who knew that you could only build 5 pieces of siege in a certain amount of space did not know about the 55 siege cap limit?
Makes sense.
Let’s tear this apart point by point.
“New Player”-
-Can afford siege.
-Must have paid with gold, not enough time spent in WvW to acquire badges.
-Knew about 5 pieces per space BEFORE he began placing them.
-Not a part of a large guild.
-Pug must care A LOT about NSP, yet has not come forward to physically say sorry
“You”
-“Proud member of NSP”
-No guild tag in your comment
-No NSP tag in your comment
-Have not posted often before this incident
I don’t think this has quite been put to rest when you look at the facts.
Not to mention, this massive amount of siege has been here since last night. Someone is actively tapping it, all of it.
I’m just wondering if they finally amped it up yet.