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Just get the Pink moa. Sheesh…
This game is not all about Bristleback.
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You are not. You are decently correct.
Ranger is the easiest class to play. The most difficult to master. That’s just who we are even though there’s not many of those who mastered the class – which makes the average of the “class” as weak. Because simply playing the class does not give the results as playing other classes does.
Mastering the class gives close to same of not better results.
The truth is it’s by far the easiest Open World class. In and out.
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Well, when it comes to ascended gear …
… My guess is waiting as well. The potential gears you’d like are:
~ Cleric (Or expansive Zealot) / Berserker / Viper (or Sinister or Rabid) / …
Not saying to farm them all – but if you stumble over a ring or random piece of equipment of these stats (like doing Story from Dry Top and Silverwastes) – definitely find them a rightful place in your bank.
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Yup, I’ve discussed stuff with Zach in-game.
The reason why he didn’t take all the CC but went for that Condi DPS sort of healer is because they already had someone to bring an enormous amount of AoE CC which makes that form of support redundant (since daze and stun overwrites each other instead of stacking).
His goal of the build was to bring Condi DPS while maximizing the Grace of the Land potential uptime.
The only problem was that he didn’t really specify why is it okay to run the build in that way. He agreed that this is by no means the “go-to” build for any environment but he had a good point about the build that some of us already used in practice but no one saw it as a potential “mechanic”. Using CAF for proccing Quickdraw, that is.
His build indeed is able to deal roughly 75% DPS of the condition build. And he is able to use staff more often than usual builds.
Because instead of Weapon Swap, he is using CAF to proc his QuickDraw on Bonfire. And it is an interesting note to take. It’s a very interesting skill-cap mechanism that people should be aware of. And Zach would be the 1st one to bring that to forums, I have to admit.
He just didn’t specify it and we all thought he promotes a build instead of the “game-play mechanic on a completely different level”. The build itself is inferior to others but his rotation opens door to a whole new era of ideas – and the build itself just makes use of that rotation.
If you look at it from these angles of view – it makes sense.
I just wish he took the replies with more ease and chill but well… Who am I to judge.
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@Zach
I added you but it seems we missed each other in game.
Here, http://s1.postimg.org/os2rzyori/Ranger_Viper_DPS.jpg
I might be busy these few days so if you want to compare the DPS feel free to do so. The meter is called jaxnX, it’s a freeware and easy to get.
If I’m free I’ll stop by and we can have a session.
The point, however, is that you keep missing the message. I bring much more support with my current build (still in Zerker stats, don’t sue me, I still don’t feel like investing so much gold into equip or multiple stats changes I might end up needing prior to Raids)
And people don’t need me for DPS at all. But it’s simply way superior to what your build offers. If I compare how much damage I prevented with 14 sec AoE daze every 20 seconds to your dedicated healer, I guess it’s pretty much clear who takes the cookie in the end.
If I decide to support a group, I always think about what do I bring. And the amount of support your build brings is much lower than you could support the group with by pure damage.
Plus… You are most likely talking about 80+ fractals. Where everything is so overcapped by toughness that anything else but conditions is redundant. Why would you strive so much to increase Raw Damage by Both Spirit and Glyph when none of those contribute to the type of damage you all are going for?
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It may be like klonko said that it’s like the ‘30% of our damage in pets’ myth.
Um… But that’s not really a myth. It’s just a situational calculation.
Pet indeed deals ~30% of our DPS if you count it without buffs.
It’s just not a statement to be used in practical environment where lots of AoE happen and your pet is no longer a subject for boosts since it’s 6th member of the party (and everything is capped at 5).
But I get your point.
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It is our concern to raise up proud community that isn’t classified as “Bearbow”.
If apple is better than an orange (let’s go with the terminology when you started), we’ll naturally say that to all the members of the forums. Do you have any idea how many trolls from other classes come here daily? And how is our Class treated because of that? Of course we don’t want them to believe anything they see here.
If you don’t want your orange to be messed up with apples, don’t list it as such. Or if you do – don’t get surprised if people realize it soon enough.
There’s nothing wrong with a build to be inefficient. If people you play with are okay with that – there’s no harm done. Some people might not be, though.
But if you lie to people (potentially looking for apples = efficiency) about what your orange provides (like the damage boosting numbers) it’s my concern to tell them the truth.
There’s no harm meant in correcting mistakes. Since you shared your opinion on how our comment look I can share mine.
You sound like you are proud of a wonderful build and you can’t accept reality that it isn’t just as good as you expected it to be when it came to facts.
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2% is the number that keeps being repeated on the raid forum. That’s for full ascended accessories and weapons, but exotic armor. The idea is that accessories and weapons are incredibly easy to get, and armor is much more time consuming and expensive.
Hmmh. It might make sense if I count with different Power/Toughness ratio… But even so, I probably won’t be able to get to 2% damage difference whichever way I’ll try to.
But yes, indeed. If it’s only the Armor stat difference the numbers are close to being same. Be it 5% or 2%.
Thanks for the reply.
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@Fluffball
Where are 2% from?
As long as I can tell the Armor difference is 5% and Accessory,Rings etc. difference is much higher. I have sincerely no idea where 2% came from but it’s far from being correct.
Furthermore, the DPS it provides is a multiplying factor, not additive, so the DPS might get even higher.
If we are talking about Armor stats – yes. That’s correct. It doesn’t mean much. But if we are talking about a whole equipment stat quality – the DPS difference goes to ~11%.
And from 8 minute fight, that’s like 50 seconds. Not so irrelevant anymore.
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Thank you @Scrimshaw.
I wouldn’t believe I’d find someone who would give himself the trouble to explain it all step by step. I truly owe you one and I do respect your tribute.
@Zach
I’ll just add few more points to support my claims about wrong numbers:
Frost Spirit =/= 10% damage. It’s 7,5%
Glyph of Empowerment =/= 10%. It’s 5% (if we take Grace of the Land synergy into account. Without it it’s 3,75%)
Grace of the Land =/= 15%. It’s situational. If you provide full 15% it means your DPS is flat which means reducing team DPS in the end.
Sun Spirit damage is based on your condition damage for every ally affected. If you don’t know this – it again only proves you lack knowledge about this game.
Again. Not an offense. It’s a proof.
Furthermore, DPS is not measured by condition Bomb that is on 25 second cooldown for you. Perfect DPS of Viper Ranger is around 8200 (without party buffs). DPS of your build is nothing but a weak tiny bit of it. I tested it.
If we assume you’ll be using your staff to bolster CAF your DPS will be pointless. If we assume you won’t be using CAF and proc Grace of the Land from Glyphs only – you don’t need staff. And you already sacrificed more than 30% of your damage from Spirit and Trap.
Bonus: If you think Frost Spirit is so much better than Sun one (especially in high fractals) – go grab a calculator. That’s not an offense. That’s a suggestion. You might get surprised.
I am sorry for my replies sound like “grudge”. But there’s currently no other way to tell people straight when their information is incorrect. If your build is inferior to ones and it can be proven with numbers and data – it simply is.
If you want to know why – learn or ask around. Everybody will tell you that I never let anyone without an answer if the person wasn’t just egoistically trolling.
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@Zach
I did read through your post. Your statements are incorrect. You proved it with your reply. You literally have zero idea about the game, yet. That is something you can’t hide anymore. Targeting people to be “sheep” just because they have better knowledge will not help you promote the build.
I would gladly explain why are you wrong, which numbers are wrong and why is your build weaker than any of it’s fellows… But you were never interested in that. If you were, you’d ask for them instead of hating “meta” that existed for a reason.
What I have problems are not walls of text, because I did read through the one of yours. I have problems reading highly self-valued intel repelling reality or constructive criticism.
By this moment, it’s just obvious the build you provided has not a single fact or number to hold onto and can simply be deemed inefficient.
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1st: You got the numbers wrong.
2nd: A link to the actual build is appreciated. No one wants to read through walls so he can imagine what you were trying to say
3rd: Damage is way lower than you claim it to be. Main source of damage of Condi Ranger is Bonfire on QuickDraw use, Sun Spirit and flame trap. You bring none.
If you play conditions, Sun Spirit is more important than Frost Spirit. Having Both is ideal.
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People keep posting on the raid forum that full ascended is only 2% better than exotic armor with ascended trinkets and weapons, so it may be of some use. We all know how “deftly” anet can sense what 2% is…
Maybe that 2% is in the same statistic section of the ranger’s pet doing 30% of all his dmg…
It’s 5% and if I remember correctly they wanted to make it 10% with HoT (no change yet). I might have remembered it wrong or mistaken it for something, though.
It was developers’ confirmed you won’t be able to bear raids without it. You’ll either lack damage or agony might get implemented for it. We don’t know yet.
And unbuffed, cats deal roughly 30% of your DPS. Full buffed (assuming your pet is too) it still deals around 20%. When it comes to AoE, well… weak.
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I would personally use it only for commander tagging in WvW or Dragon’s Stand.
You’ll lose a lot of precious DPS anywhere else. PvE, PvP, even WvW. Staying alive is the only useful thing when being a commander. As one – you want to show people where to break enemy lines and when to strike. And you can’t do that with berserker stats because you can’t afford to go 1st.
For day-to-day content it’s useless.
Raids haven’t sounded yet, but you’ll need Ascended gear for that anyway.
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Frost Trap deserves the attention, just like spike trap.
Simply because they waste the cripple benefit from Trapper’s Expertise trait.
There’s nothing to benefit from when it comes to these 2 traps. Chill already limits the movement and you can’t move when Knocked.
Frost Trap applying +15 vulnerability, anyone? Makes sense when you think about it. Kiting purposes, being frozen does make things easier to break, would make a nice trap if you ask me.
Spike Trap with 36 sec cooldown (trait) is okay considering all the CC we can get via Druid. But I might increase the KD duration to 1,5 seconds up from 1 so you can actually make the enemy pay for triggering the trap. 1 second is way too short for you to even turn around not to mention using any damage ability.
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The fact that in any instance where you were able to utilise it to be 450% more effective, it has no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of the fight.
Just like Grace of the Land. And we all still love it.
Having that blind with Internal Cooldown per target hit, not personal makes it a pretty solid choice. I feel the difference in Team-Fight PvP.
Yes, it’s no longer a selfish personal utility or healing. But it’s mechanically balanced. As soon as there’s 2 people around you already crossed a line of Ele’s Burning Ashes. Difference? Ele can control it to perfection. Druid can throw around much more of it when it comes to team-fight.
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I am not saying that they are useless in pve if you may have thought that I did so.
Nope, I was just glad someone knowledgeable came who I can share the opinion with.
rather than improving a bit more themselfs. Similar to your sig.
Thanks for acknowledging. Hopefully we’ll get more people willing to try things out before crying out loud.
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@Yashuoa
If we assume that Druid is more powerful for former ZerkMeta than our former variation – where Ranger already was ZerkMeta member – we can gladly assume we are fine at PvE as well.
When it comes to conditions… Well… We don’t need druid for that. We cannot want druid to be best for every single freaking content.
If only more people had the general idea of how the game works… We wouldn’t have to go through topics like these.
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You might be refering to this template:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAW3YnUqAVsilsCmrAUtgl/ADet+WvrLvuMQA4JN0tGensi0NB-TJxHwAOLDI4CAA4BA8Z/BA
4sec Daze from glyph. 1sec Pull/Push from Tides, 1sec KD from Trap, 2 sec from Staff Trait, 4 seconds in celestial avatar #3 Lunar Impact.
A pretty interesting build that bets everything on synergy with control and bleeds. It has low damage output, though.
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I think this is the build Tragic is thinking of.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Build-Druid-Dedicated-Support/first
Indeed. Thanks for being quicker than me.
That is the template.
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We need pets to share 100% of all the boons and buffs we have (food, stealth and auras included)
We need to be able to send them to specific places
We need to be able to use more of their abilities
Conditions above their Health Bar would be appreciated.
These are the “dare” from me to Arena Net. These are the core problems we have suffered with for way too long. And their Wyvern attempts displeased the community even further.
While all other classes have useful utilities, damage or life-changers F1-F4 abilities, we have F2 that is not reliable and 3 other buttons we are forced to learn because if we won’t we’ll get hated in every single content.
I believe I’m not the only one who wants to be proud of his class mechanic for once.
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It was too powerful before, every reasonable player knows that. What’s the point of making it completely useless though? At the moment it is maybe worth to be a minor trait. Having it as a GM trait is just laughable…
What is laughable about a trait that has the potential to be 450% more powerful than it’s Elementalist’s counter-part (Blinding Ashes) ?
Care to demonstrate?
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Go through Heimskarl’s spirit build.
That’s the one you have been looking for. It’s simply… A superior version to everything your build provides.
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LOL – noted. Does Grace of the Land Proc from wisp? Maybe if it orbited faster at a larger radius it would help by increasing group damage?
It doesn’t. It procs only from Astral abilities. Which means CAF skills and Glyphs with Verdant Etching only.
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Heck, add the blind to the basic wisp, and change Lingering Light to proc Regen on allies hit with the wisp. Would give us actual Regen on staff, and would allow for healing of party members AFTER they leave the area of the wisp.
No, please, no more regen on Ranger. We are so overkilled by it that I can’t even contain myself.
I find Lingering Light in balanced state. Staff is my concern.
Wisp is what needs something to be rewarding. More Damage? Bonus condition glued? Bonus effect on the Wisp Heal like increased might? Anything.
Right now I don’t even know if I did something wrong when playing staff. Because everything on it except #5>#3 combo feels equally worthless.
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The whole staff feels like an Astral Bar filler.
#1? A filler
#2? Another filler
#3? Well, okay this one is useful
#4? A skill that I haven’t yet found a good use of. Immob is short and effect delay long.
#5? A deflect that is a filler
Astral Wisp is not the only problem but one to be looked at for sure.
The whole design is rather strange. You won’t be able to use CAF as often as you need to with any other weapon than staff… But Having it is good for nothing else but filling up the bar.
If #2 felt like a real ability that procced slow or blind or cleanse or whatever I wouldn’t probably find the setup as strange.
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@Dojo
There’s the difference that people simply do not want to understand.
There’s a difference in being negative and being real. If what you say nobody is able to deny, well, then it’s obvious you’re not being negative. You’re being realistic.
It’s just sad that reality has to sound negative. Developers still have a long way to go.
Offtopic: just like they believe increasing Toughness and Vitality means more fun. And burying risky (glass) 3stat DPS and replacing it with 1 stat condition meta (with close to same results) is a good idea.
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It’s good to have trained all the Gliding Mastery for Ley-Line level.
Then do the 2 hour event chain and succeed.
Just to be able NOT to use the pet ever again. Isn’t it fascinating?
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The question is… What is more probable to be correct?
A statement of player who wasn’t able to find a way…
… Or a statement of players who already play it efficiently?
Look, as I already said – Druid has issues. But it doesn’t mean it’s useless. Truth be told, I found more useless guardians in my runs than Rangers. But I won’t claim that Guardian’s useless.
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I believe it’s basically to avoid “double-tapping” the ability if you try to spam it in excitement. Yea, the prevention period is a second too long.
Never really felt bothered by it, though.
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For example, there was the guy who ran a similar “support” build to mine. A full Daze Ranger for Fractals.
And I mean yes. What do you expect? I can put 14 seconds of daze onto 5 targets every 20 seconds. Of course, I won’t do any damage at all. But do you have any idea how that helps your party go through the content?
People just clearly have no idea what’s wrong with the Druid. They expect it to be something they would like to play instead of embracing things offered.
Druid has a lot of issues. Yes. But Quality of life ones. Bugs, Synergy, Game System interaction… That’s not balance issues.
If you feel that druid is useless – you are playing druid wrong. You can’t expect the game to knock on your door saying “Heeeey brought you the money you dreamed of!”. You have to search for it.
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@Scrimshaw
I am terribly sorry for I haven’t found a way to test the on-the-move DPS of Viper Ranger (PvP gollem dies way too early to measure anything). The measurement I made from fractals (sinister) was irrelevant since the numbers are always cut down when NPC dies and lots of DPS is counted as an echo where you are not dealing DPS plus there always is a different number of targets hit.
But I can tell you from personal experience that you rarely “waste” your abilities in fractals. You are not really kiting that much and your AoE abilities like Trap and Bonfire usually ticks down till the blob of enemies is in Entangle.
Condi Ranger DPS goes down drastically if the target’s movement is Chaotic – and you can lead PvE mobs the way you please, so it’s not a real concern.
Condi Ranger suffers in Open World PvE where the NPC mobility is chaotic. The DPS there is roughly 50% lower.
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You just don’t know how to play it that’s all…
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This again… ?
People. Newcomers or not.
This game is a different game than most of other MMOs. If you glue up the 1st nonsense build that comes into your mind so you can role-play don’t expect any results. What you are disappointed with is your lack of knowledge about this game and druid and his builds as such.
Not the druid.
Druid is perfectly viable.
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Will try tomorrow Scrimshaw, it’s late night here already.
Stay tuned.
EDIT:
Test failed on my behalf.
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i go zerker in dungeons or run a condition build for high level fractals due to toughness scaling. right now people are farming open world for masteries. the build i posted works for it and is a lot of fun. on metabattle there is a Vipers(not updated on armor as it still uses sinister still) A/T Condi Ranger. that is the one that is meta.
This sounds fair enough. I just felt like having it clarified might help.
The DPS I tested was pretty much the build (with Viper’s nest in place of Frost Spirit and SotP in place of entangle) for that maximized DPS.I was thinking of doing the test for 2 million but a revenant came pulsing boons and proccing spirit so I cut the test as soon as I could to avoid averted results.
Any chance you could test on a moving target? This would be helpful for higher-level fractals, HoT maps, and raids in PvE, as these enemies do not remain still.
Which content do you want tested exactly? Will the moving gollem in PvP zone do? I’m still way too far from Viper’s Set for HoT.
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i go zerker in dungeons or run a condition build for high level fractals due to toughness scaling. right now people are farming open world for masteries. the build i posted works for it and is a lot of fun. on metabattle there is a Vipers(not updated on armor as it still uses sinister still) A/T Condi Ranger. that is the one that is meta.
This sounds fair enough. I just felt like having it clarified might help.
The DPS I tested was pretty much the build (with Viper’s nest in place of Frost Spirit and SotP in place of entangle) for that maximized DPS.
I was thinking of doing the test for 2 million but a revenant came pulsing boons and proccing spirit so I cut the test as soon as I could to avoid averted results.
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Also, I was shocked when I saw that the most amazing environment for Lingering Light trait you skipped.
You should definitely give that a go. It has cooldown per target unlike the roots.
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What is the purpose of this skill putting us into combat?
It is essential otherwise people would abuse it for mobility.
They are supposed to. Thanks to it I’m enjoying much more mobility that I ever could. I’m even able to double-blast fields ooc thanks to it.
You Grace into it, swap pets – voila – you just did a good job.
And you can get a nice 20 seconds of swiftness because of it.
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For starters – Glyph of Unity scales with power. Which means you are basically doing nothing at all with the glyph.
You’d be much better with Stability from SotP since you lack that. Also, I’d think about swapping the Glyph of Alignment for Lightning Reflexes. You are quite vulnerable to condition bombs, so you’d definitely like that retreat option that removes Immob.
Apart from that it seems fine for diving into the blobs of people. It rarely is needed, though.
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@Raven
My DPS tests with Viper stats from the other day.
Ranger: http://s1.postimg.org/os2rzyori/Ranger_Viper_DPS.jpg
Engie: http://postimg.org/image/5l4of0jbh/full/
Metabattle rotations used for both cases (even the 48 step Engie one)
About the Double GS… There is no double GS build as far as I know. I’m talking about this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ljux9o5FGM
That’s correct – it brings little Ranged possibilities but for day to day runs it’s amazing (even the pull from PoS is nice when you get used to it). Much more AoE and burst in comparison to the standard ZerkMeta Frost Spotter. Weaker tunnel phase, but much more vuln uptime.
All in all, it’s better when “on the move”. For zerking bosses down the melee LB+S/A is better. For that you are right.
But Remorseless BM build is viable for a specific content.
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@GiggleFairy
The Bleeding druid is mostly a … WvW or open world build. It is a very bad idea to play it in Fractals or dedicated content. A clear answer why is the Shortbow that is the lowest DPS weapon from all Raw and Condi weapons out there.
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For ideal perfected situation and stationary fight – the DPS keeps balancing around ~8100 in Viper stats. More if you are in a party thanks to Sun Spirit.
Without Food Buffs or Nourishment.
Here:
http://s1.postimg.org/os2rzyori/Ranger_Viper_DPS.jpg
*Note
I wasn’t using Frost Spirit because plenty of people thought that if you bring a Condi Ranger into a group – it basically means the enemies have high toughness and all of you will be running Condi stats…
If you don’t know what’s your content you should bring Frost Spirit, though.
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You as a ranger lack buffs for your party unless you bring spirits, your condition builds lack sustained damage, and your power builds require you to stand far away and contribute nothing to your team except a pet buff
Wrong, wrong aaaaand wrong.
A boosting druid brings 28% unique DPS boost for the party (Frost spirit needed)
Condition build has higher sustained and overall DPS than a sinister engineer
Full Melee Relentless build is absolutely viable and one of the better DPS builds.
Don’t mistake random comfortable builds of selfish people for “Ranger”. Those who main the class feel slightly offended by those statements and it keeps the rest in dark lies.
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It is kind of hilarious to stand in the field, rapid fire at whoever is bursting you, and watch them miss every swing. Then again, I’m forced to run LB if I want to do that. And I’d rather not run LB.
Pulsing blind lets the smoke field benefit a lot more builds. Why not?
Because having the field benefit for everyone and running longbow at the same time results in pretty much toxic “f@$k you” field.
And we would have it nerfed either in duration or cooldown. And no, neither of us wants that.
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ANet said plenty of things but as far as the ability goes, this currently works as intended.
All abilities affecting condition damage specifically state they do so.
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I’m doing just fine.
I’m even being asked to bring my ranger, lately.
I’d only say this:
It always is the people. It always has been.
For maintaining a high DPS – there are self-sufficient builds.
For maintaining a huge DPS party boost – there are builds.
For Zerk and Condi – there are builds.
I don’t know which environment is this being addressed at but PvE is just fine. I haven’t yet played much of the PvP and when I do I’m usually testing around.
Quality of life improvements are needed at almost everything but a dedicated Ranger can play around with them. They only make life uncomfortable but not non-viable.
Druid actually offered us everything we lacked.
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So, is this still viable now? I’ve started running lb/st marauder because the might stacking from smokescale is no longer as good and that reapers just seem to destroy me if I don’t have a longbow. I’m interested in hearing what others are also running.
Hitzer’s build is quite capped on might. SmokeScale change shouldn’t affect it’s game-play much. You have unlimited access to it from every single possible source you could.
I haven’t been playing PvP that much lately. New PvE content got me excited.
The ones I tried and found effective are somewhere up around this topic.
There’s also that cool Bleeding build someone (kevy was it?) posted lately.
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I admit that i agree with you, but i want my pet to look more like a beast than a baby…
… Snip …
This part makes sense. Everyone except the ranger likes small pets. The problem is that they block up all the important space on the screen that “no one is interested in” when it comes to content.
People don’t want to get distracted by pets when “Ranger” is the source they are looking for. You don’t want pets to block half of the body of a commander you are supposed to stack at or on a Druid that is supposed to heal you up.
It sounds like a trivial matter but this concept has been once discussed back at WoW days. People did find it disturbing.
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