Guild Wars 2

Kingface.9781:

Truebanana.5936:

They did transfer to Vizunah from Arborstone because they wanted to be on the easy winning side, even if that would mean to have an overwhelming superiority number against their enemy most of time.

During a GvG, they might not have enough people to fight (why not transfering to a server where you could do evenly matched fight, instead of staying on the already full “Vizunah” when you did go there ?), or even worse, being outnumbered.
That’s why they were mad and are going to do it as much as possible.

A little just like Option jumping on SFR to leech a semblance of notority. At the difference, MoS reached their goal, you don’t.

If that really was the case, we would have already joined them and as you can see, we are still on SFR since January (to play as a guild), when Mos has join Vizublob.

They did transfer to Vizunah from Arborstone because they wanted to be on the easy winning side, even if that would mean to have an overwhelming superiority number against their enemy most of time.

During a GvG, they might not have enough people to fight (why not transfering to a server where you could do evenly matched fight, instead of staying on the already full “Vizunah” when you did go there ?), or even worse, being outnumbered.
That’s why they were mad and are going to do it as much as possible.

Fureur and LNM members also said that they would do the same.

Elona never cease to amaze me. I didn’t know that a server had still that much people using alt F4.
It’s really pitfull to see people losing like 5 times in a row even in 2vs1 and then manage to kill you while they were going to lose (the same who died 5 times) because of an other guy from their server coming into the duel and then still manage to /laugh xD

You won a perma contest of Valley for this week while i’ll play ^^

edit : LoL, alt+F4 again, 6 times in 45min, from 4 differents players.

Zap.6459:

Truebanana.5936:

The thing i don’t understand with their logic, is they are against GvG when they are on the map, but they also did a few GvG. So does that mean that’s ok as long as it’s your guild ?

You know very well Truebanana what we are worth in terms of gameplay since we played together as allies and we crossed as rivals. About GvG, I think now that everyone knows our position. When you say “a little”, you should refer to the night we faced after you wander on an empty card players. Nothing to do with all these organized GvG not absolutely reflect players McM.

For your guild gameplay, let’s call it “teamplay” ( individually, seem like you forbid your players to roam, because there isn’t any player from your guild outside your guild raid hours, so only god know), i agree, you were way above most of Vizunah guilds.
Since WL has quit GW2, to me you were (I only roam alone since almost 3 month, so i don’t take part of most of big fight and i don’t know if there is anything new) the last remaining decent guild who can gather 20-25+ players at the same time (FM guild, don’t remember the complet name, was the third and last decent guild, but not as much players in their raid), the others are just a pack of pugs with the same guild tag, following their commanders.

If you were mad because there was nobody to fight, what was the point to join the easy winning server, with no challenge as a guild (because VS is all about number and how to lead as well as possible the pugs) if there is not enough people to fight ? Or was it an other reason ?

The Emperor Glory.3927:

The EU way of playing with separate guild groups and separate Teamspeak servers works for the servers. The US way of playing with all on one TS all on one leader all in one blob generates lag.

EU makes fights, lose get better work harder.
US makes blobs – lose bring more lose bring even more until the whole map is with you.

Seem like NA servers are like Vizunah and i like to contest their keep to block the warp.
If my guild ever stop to play at gw2, i would transfer to a NA and roam alone, to block the zerg by myself whenever i’m online xD

They did an advertisement video for their guild in the french gaming community few month ago, with really bloody hardcore from hell full mouse click. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gjMxoNBuZs
It only was one guy (found an other from one of their member, but it got deleted after we started to make fun of them) they aren’t really all mouse clicker, but it was funny to see a guild to try to recruit new members with that kind of video.

The thing i don’t understand with their logic, is they are against GvG when they are on the map, but they also did a few GvG. So does that mean that’s ok as long as it’s your guild ?

I play D/F ele and all what i have to do against perma stealth thief is to take 20-40% of their health and then have a good timing to interupt them while they are starting to cast heal or a stealth, then kill them, or make them run away, since i can’t really chase with a focus :s

Stealth is stupid on gw2. Usually in other mmorpg, when you hit someone in stealth, he’s isn’t anymore in stealth, same if he had a damage over time skill on him.
The problem seem to be the dev who are playing them …

Interrupted by mos click ?

When i’m roaming alone and there is too many people in the enemy zerg, i roam near their war camp and keep contesting everything, but my main target is the fortress with a warp.
I think that 1 guy who block a portal and kill every dolyak is more usefull than 5 guy who follow the commander and die from an arrow cart, because there is no daily for dodging.

An ice field would be great ^^

Very boring to try to fight BB during the night when you have the outmanned buff and they manage to do 2 orange cross at 2 differents place at the same time between 3 and 4am.

Even when there is close to nobody (like now), that mean 5~6 vs 20-30 BB and we start to do a 1vs1, they have to all come and attack to interrupt the duels.
That’s why most of your guys are individually bellow average, because you can only fight your enemy with a superior number or in guild versus pug (at night, no guild on the others servers) and then fear the 1vs1. You should allow people from your server to individually improve and let them fight alone or at least come at 2vs1, stay away with your 20+ mate, watch and learn.

I don’t know much about my guildmate because i don’t play with them since 2 month (i only do my daily and 1-2 hours roaming during the night then log off and we have almost no roamers in Option) and i never use emote to taunt.

The “worst” that i do is when i manage to kill “roaming” brave groups like yours (didn’t manage yet with your guild, since you are above average, it’s harder) of 3-4 people who fear 1vs1. I don’t kill the last of them when he’s on the ground, but i don’t let him rally either, i wait untill he give up and die slowly or let him rally and down him again untill he can’t rally anymore and die.

Try to fight people alone if you are running with 3-5 people against one if possible in offprime.

I have to say it’s funnier to play agaisnt Vizunah when you are roaming alone, as Kodash and desolation almost only roam in group of 3-5 people, with at least 2 thief in them.

Vizunah haven’t really much roamers, but killing those who are behind the zerg is almost the same as collecting mithrill

They are now flying and even crashing on the ground sometimes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unU_gR_Enu8&feature=youtu.be

I killed this one and his friend 5-6 times (with the help of the guards xD) but they got me once.

Desolation has a lot of group of 2-3 thiefs roamers to “challange” solo roamer, but not much solo roamer.

I like to roam alone because most of time it’s easier to win alone than with more people, because when they die, they rally those who were about to die, that i could have beaten in a 1vs2 or 1vs3 alone.

What really feel good is to be killed by a 3-4 players group of roamers from the same guild while you were already dueling someone and then come back and kill them all by yourself while they have no back up. They usually have some pride and don’t run away

I really like to play with the roamers that does duel on our servers (if they are 3-5+, they ask for duel against the guy that run alone). It’s not as boring as the matchups with Jade sea or Vizunah. They had very few of them and most of them were disappointing.
It’s good to play an other week against desolation, as i managed to be bored after endless weeks of fighting against them and the same people, it seem like they have some new face who doesn’t run with the blob.

They wont nerf something that nobody is using ^^

vanensang.1389:

Alright, its the last day we match with Jade Sea. After several weeks and months matching with you lads I still have just one question left to ask. Why are you guys so little PvP interrested in WvW?

Don’t get me wrong, its not a flame. But after fighting with Elona and SFR I saw much more PvP orientated guilds and players than I ever met on Jade Sea. I played … a lot during our matchups on every Border and on Eternal Battlegrounds … The only – more or less – PvP enthuisiastic guild on Jade seems to be [DEX]. To be honest … I roam pretty often alone. And everytime I saw some solo player of Jade he avoids fighting at all and tries to escape. At least it was like this in most cases.
So … Why is there so little interrest in PvP aspects on Jade Sea? :o

Anyway … Have fun matching with New Vizunah Square (also known as Elona Reach) and Old Vizunah Square this evening. :P

So true. I roam alone most of time and when i fight a Jade Sea player, i’m mostly chasing him and killing him while he run away without trying to fight back, even if he was running alone, so also roaming. Sometimes even groups of 2-3 players run away at the sight of an ennemie …

Yesterday i tried to fight 3 JS, but with a setup with thief + ranger + gardien, it was impossible to stomp/finish any of them, but it was also impossible for them to kill me. I tried to duel them (even a 2vs1 would have been ok) every time they ran away, but they would give back up to the one fighting alone.
After a few minutes of hit and run, finally one of them decided to fight me alone. After something like 20sec he lost 50% hp, his mate came to help him again and that time they ran away for ever wihout looking back xD

Jade Sea has close to no roamer during the night, even if they have an overwhelming advantage in number. Kodash also has almost no roamer during the night, but when you meet one of them, he keep fighting and come back to fight.

Reporting in game is useless, as i did report a speedhacker for almost 2 weeks, 10-20 times per day few month ago and fought him day after day.
Few days ago i did a report a zoom hack user with 2 videos, a screen, the extact time of when it happened, the exact time when i also did a report in game and something has been done by anet this time (confirmation from Jade sea community), but i still got a reply from anet support to ask me to report in game if possible

The best way to make people want to accept, is to invite them once they are down, if they decline, that mean they don’t want to duel anymore and you can finish them

You don’t risk anything by accepting (exept a free report if you have to), but declining is not a big deal either.

Keep the pressure and close combat fight.
You shouldn’t be able to die against a ranger, as ranger, necro and warrior are the 3 classes against wich the fight shouldn’t last more than 45sec most of time and i’m not even considering about losing !

It’s really a lot funnier than T1, because people are actually fighting instead of running away from fight there ^^

http://www.twitch.tv/optiontv/b/402753438 Start the stream at 2 hours and 27 minutes 30sec
In those kind of fight (25-30 Opt and pugs against 50-60+ JS) Vizunah would have fought 1min, wipe and then wait or run away. It lasted almost 10min even if we had lost most of pugs in the first minutes.
When JS tried to build arrow cart even with their overwhelming number against a lot less people, it was still fun as it failed xD

Edit : And some zoom hacking from Jade Sea early morning commander :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmGCUb2ydcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ntd0E0X58M
It was impossible to defend, so i gave up using my commander tag and trying to defend the others thing that we had. If he wasn’t even trying to hide it, he would have used it everywere and on anything.

I’ll help Desolation to have a NA timezone coverage. “There’s a lot of oil on Vizunah”

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

I have no desire to see another players title.

I don’t care.

I don’t care about your title.

I don’t care that you really really want me to see your title.

I don’t want to see your title. It adds more clutter that I don’t care to have.

+1

If you want to see your enemy title, select him, but we don’t care about your title, so keep it for you.

Qwixx.5923:

Truebanana.5936:

I was on Arborstone and i’m on SFR since mid January.

What he is talking about goes back much further than mid-January.

That’s why i said “i was on Arborstone” on your quote. Even in October they were fighting like they are doing now, but with culling and as i said, it’s not because of SFR, it’s only an excuse.

Dagger/focus elementalist, really high survivability, immortal in 1vs1, good in 1vs2~3 and can survive in the middle of a zerg.
Even more harder to kill if you go for for scepter/focus, but you wont kill anyone with that xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osTeVNUuX4w (only 1328 toughness on the vid)

I was on Arborstone and i’m on SFR since mid January.

Exept for FM, they are no guild who did run by itself with a “20-25 players group” (even now, with almost no resistance from SFR and Desolation, they are still running with 40-80 zerg against people with outmanned buff) and a few pugs following in the past on Vizunah, it’s not because of SFR or any other server. The only difference is that with the end of culling, we can see the whole blob.

The night population of Vizunah is mostly french. They are more than any server during the night because it’s the most stacked server, as every french bandwagoners ended being there month after month.
If a little part of your server population play at night and the same average % of people play at night on any server, with a lot larger player base, Vizunah have a lot more people.
Since most of them are used to run together and avoid fighting alone or groups of equal force, it end up being a permanent zerg anywhere they are playing or a hide and seek game near the safe zones if they are not at least 2,5x more than their opponent

Anyway, seem like SFR will finally drop to T2 at the end of this week and Jade Sea will go to T1 after Bief, as they will make a lot of points from SFR and if Desolation players are smart enough, they will try to drop against Vizunah and Bief. So T1 situation will be solved.

1800 hours of playing, most of it on world versus world roaming alone (only a little bit more than 40k kill). In every game i always play the “sorcerer” class or the thing the closest of it.

The patch doesn’t affect me much, as i only use d/d while moving and use it to fight only if i didn’t have enough time to switch back to dagger/focus.
The nerf isn’t that big, but it will decrease the number of elementalist and people will start to think they are freekill again, like in the first month after the release, so we will get more fight ^^

I saw a lot of people complaining about the majority of roamers player being thief/ele and mesmer, but the true solo roamers are 2/3 thief and ranger (don’t know why ranger lol) and the last tier are elementalist and mesmer as i don’t see much of them alone. They roam in group.

Going on an outmanned borderland alone against outmanned desolation players and full Vizunah blob (They don’t even have roamers when there is no opposition against them) during prime time, contesting everything and watching the blob running everywhere without fighting anything else as roamers is priceless

Did a little one of over 3min 15min ago, i’m uploading it. Not on dual dagger; but on dagger/focus, so with even less mobility. Will i earn some gold ?

edit : It’s up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osTeVNUuX4w
As you can see at the end of the video, i roam with 1328 toughness even if i don’t have a lot of mobility.

It’s not going to happen as they like to be part of the server that win, even if they can’t fight much because of the queues. They aren’t looking for good fight, they only want to win, even if it’s boring.

Yesterday one their supposed top guild refused to GvG. At first it was because :
- The leader was faking afk, even if he was fighting us while leading his guild raid with the whole map following him
- After 15 min, a reply as they were not enough (20+ in a 80+ blob lol, while we were 27 from our guild and like 40+ on the map with the pugs)
- Then we couldn’t GvG because they had pugs on the map. Yeah, like it could stop the others guilds that did GvG in the past.
- Then it was because they would lose the whole borderland if we were to GvG. Yeah, like the 10+ pugs against the 60+ remaining Vizunah blob and the few desolation roamers would make it (we only had the first tower every 10min, as we kept losing it and taking it back).
- Then it was “maybe tomorrow”. Yeah, like we can trust a guild that fear the fight that much.
- Then from our part with no queue on every borderland + 5min queue on EB, we left them to PvD during prime time with their guild raid on a map against few isolated roamers xD

For SFR and desolation guilds, there is nothing left to fight in T1 exept blob and the few rares guilds that accept to leave the blob to fight. (If you are scared to GvG, you can still turn off your commander tag to try to not have an overwhelming number avantage against those you are fighting)

I was already ready, since i almost don’t play dd anymore since January (D/F now), i can still heal while being invincible with a focus.
The main problem will be the sigil of energy nerf, as it will get a nerf but we don’t know what yet.

It’s true that your zerg are the same that since the start, the only difference is that now we can see them without the culling.
Every server has his own zerg at some time, but some can’t play without it and even with those, don’t try to fight because it doesn’t make your earn “precious points” and hide if they don’t have an overwhelming number advantage to their side.

Most of french bandwagoners are on Vizunah. It could even be possible that vizunah has more than half of french population on itself.
If 10% of your total server population play during offpeak, the same 10% of Vizunah isn’t the same, that’s why there are so many of them at any hours of the day and night.

The longer are your queue, better are your chance to be a winner, even if you can’t take part of the battle. That s the way of thinking that lead some French guilds and players to keep joining Vizunah and the queue.

I use dagger/focus since 4 month (still using dual dagger when i have to move fast) because i find it funnier to play.
You mostly lose mobility, but i only attack people who are alone or groups of 3 players. If i can’t run away because they are too many people (6~15), i can kill at least one of them if they are just a bunch of random who wont try to heal the guy on the floor all together our hide him with a thief.

For dueling or fighting 1-3 people, it’s a lot better than dual dagger, but for “general situation” in roaming, it’s not.

Desolation only have 2 guilds, the zone blob and Coin, as coin sometimes leave the blob and fight by itself.
The only difference between Desolation and Vizunah is the coverage.

Desolation only have 2 guilds, the zone blob and Coin, as coin sometimes leave the blob and fight by itself.
The only difference of way of playing between Desolation and Vizunah is the coverage.

They don’t lose because they blob, as every server blob, they lose because they don’t make as much points as possible when they should dominate both others servers, when they have more people.

This week i play on SFR home map and EB when i’m roaming. Vizunah focus us on those map (i don’t know how is it on other map, but last week it was the same on Deso borderland), even when Desolation have the outnamed buff, same for Desolation when Vizunah got the Outnamed buff.
We may have a low ptt when the player from Russia log off during european prime time and then we don’t have enough people to defend, but both Deso and Vizunah only share those points and don’t attack each other as long as we still have something on the map. When we get stronger, none of them got much ahead because of that.

About the focus, i understand it, as when desolation isn’t on us we do it on Vizunah and when we got back to T1, we also did full focus vizunah and killed once vizunah in front of their warcamp in EB, while Desolation was fighting them in their keep, because we knew that with a defense near a warcamp, it’s really hard to capture a keep when all servers are at full force.
Desolation and Vizunah are doing the same thing everyday in on our map, like 2 days ago, desolation zerg (80+) was defending the corpse of our garrison lord for 2-3min (standing on it, not chasing people around, only waiting) on the bridge near the north west inner gate, while a zerg as big of Vizunah was fighting us in the circle. The fight in the lord room did last for almost 30min as we kept ressing the lord, without vizunah and desolation attacking each other, but they fought once Vizunah got it.

Sharing equally the wxp between the members of the zerg should be enough. Like an event who actually give 75 wxp would give 1 wxp per person if it’s a 75 players zerg, with 1wxp as a minimum, to allow 75+ zergs

I think the world versus world is already perfect how it is actually. People can play as they want. Zerg, small group or alone.

I almost have been playing 1700 hours at gw2, because i play while i’m at work and also during most of my free time at home, as i start working at 7pm untill 7am, even when i don’t work, i don’t have much thing to do during this part of the night.
Most of those hours were spend in solo roaming (d/d while moving or to fight 4+ players, if they are 3 or less, i go for d/f), not because solo is better or cooler, but because when you play with someone else, if that “someone” does something stupid, it’s annoying. It’s better to play by yourself, because if you fail to do something, you can only blame yourself.

But i still play world versus world with my guild a few hours per week. Not much (10 hours per week), because i quickly get bored, but i still have 38k kills and i turn on my commander tag during off peak when there is no commander on the map, only when we have to defend something and when the attack is repelled, i turn it off and go back to roaming.

The only thing that i think is annoying and should be removed, is the emotes, because those who abuse them are usually group or zerg members or those you were about to finish and were saved by a zerg, even more when they kill one solo roamer, they have to spam it.
But it’s also funny to fight those guy, because when i manage to kill them, i try to keep the last of them (or one of them if i can catch him alone) at 50% hp while they are laying on the ground and don’t leave them the possibility of getting up, untill they give up and die slowly. If the target doesn’t have a good mobility class, i pull him a mob and look at him trying to kill it. If he manage to do it, i down him once again and do the same cycle over again, untill he get bored. All that without emote from my part, because it’s evil ! xD

Split wxp between the people who are hitting a target. 60 people attacking a lone roamer (with full wxp) would get 1 point, while the roaming would get 60 for killing one of them.
If they are more people than points that the target will give as a reward, only the first or the higest dmg dealer would get their share.

Guild versus server : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC_Mpvx4sSA&feature=youtu.be

Bay as a gift, on Desolation borderland : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VSq9FaiguE&feature=youtu.be
At that moment, it was the last thing SFR had on the map, that’s why they left it for free.

Mine died too on my laptop (Clevo P150HM with a 6990m) sunday, but the warranty is still on. The problem is that i play at work and while i wait for a new one, i can’t play anymore

Genev.2450:

As found in another thread, posted by ANet:
“For the next week, all the medium population servers will be free to transfer to. Might be worth giving one of them a look!”

Enjoy the influx, SFR? :p
(at 9 am this morning you were Medium. Desolation was Very High. Didn’t look at Vizu, sorry.)
Score PPT:
SFR: + 360
Vizu: + 180
Deso:+ 155

Where did you see that ? Vizunah is at Very HIgh, few weeks ago it was full even in the morning.
All NA server exept 3 of them are at Very High. It’s time for them to come in EU if what you said is true

He will back off and put back his guild tag. then they will say they are sorry for it and against it and that they are reporting him, then he will be back later

Like all the zoom hackers, it’s pretty convenient. A sorry doesn’t cost you much anyway.

7 month for culling, wait for an other 7 month for the end of skill lag when they will get a Pentium 3 for their servers.