Guild Wars 2

Arborstone prime time is between 8pm and 1am. It’s 5pm at moment.

We are still not a full server, as we have no queue on eternal battlefield even in prime time and no queue on borderland, exept on our home map and BT between 7pm and 11pm.

If they can do something like 20k points in hollow hours the last days to save their rank, they will do it. So as long as you save a lot more point during the week, you wont lose.

Vizunah showed us again that the only way to win in this game is to have many people to play in hollow hours.
It is the same for all servers (Even BT and AS). Even if you are generally better or worse at some point, as long as you aren’t doing too bad the rest of the day (like Baruch bay), if you have alot of players in hollow hours, you’re sure to win.

When you win against an other server, most of the time it’s because at some point you will have more players on your side than your opponent, not only because you may be better than them.
Elona Bief deserve more than us to be in T1 (exept for last week, we were almost 24/24 doing better than them), because they are playing the game like Vizunah (a single bus and lot of siege weapon to camp in their fortress + avoiding fighting in open field), even if they are boring, it’s more effective to play like that, but we have got more people than them last week in the night

The best way to avoid server to win only because of a bigger hollow hours population, would be to change the scoring point of every 15min to every hours.

The best thing to do is to be there before stating something or to ask someone that was there.

Vizunah always sleep less when their rank “might be in danger”. I think that you saw that they always play safe in their fortress and only seek for points. They did the same night capping plan the day before, but you didn’t notice because :
- Your night force was there and almost as weak as our, but seem like they couldn’t tell you that.
- We did a morning cap, so all what they did in the night has been erased.

I don’t think it’s really hard to do something like a 15sec delay before you log off during a fight, even if your game crash. Or at least make it cost 10 times more than a normal death, even if you aren’t dead and a lot of people will stop to alt+f4.

It’s really boring to play against VS when it’s not during the prime time, because it’s a real sport for them.

Like the 500vs500 fight in Aion with everybody on shift+F12

I really like the way you are playing [RG] and fortunatly for us (I don’t mind, because i don’t care about the score), you are mostly roaming xD

Ogre, you’r (elona and baruch) mostly fighting on eternal battlefield and all of our organised guild fight on borderland.
EB is only for our casual players or for those who aren’t playing in the main alliance, all that without any real organisation. That’s why those you are fighting against are almost as weak as baruch players and are also really slow to react when you’r attacking a fortress.

Last week as someone said previously, we were at our third defeat in a row, after 2 ugly defeat against the “number” of desolation and Ruin. Many people gave up on world vs world, at the second week against desolation.
If you’r from elona for more than 3 weeks, you should know that we weren’t as weak as last week (outmanned buff almost at every hour of the day, exept during prime time), at our previous fight in T1 when we won agaisnt VS and Elona.

We are winning this matchup because we are trying to fight like we did before, to try to not loose too many casual player before then end of the free transfer. All that because people are transfering away to the winning server when you are losing.
You may have noticed that when you do a good start after the week end of a new matchup, there are a lot more people who usually only pve who are coming in world vs world. When you are badly losing at the end of the week end, that’s the opposite.

Ele Dagger + Focus + tank build + arcane control = immortal in 1vs1, easy win 1vs2~3 average players, if you like to roam.

If you aren’t from Arborstone, i’m sorry to have to tell you that your lie wont work, because you can’t whisper anymore people who aren’t from your server by using the in game report to get their name

Most of people who were fighting last night were the core of our usual world vs world force and we usually leave the eternal battlefiled to the casual player and those who aren’t part of our alliance, while the guilds of our main alliance are dispatched equally on borderlands.
Since a lot of people (casual) from our and your server (elona and baruch) were in the pve event, it was really easy to control the borderlands, so we also did send some people on eternal battlefield to coordinate our force.

Don’t you think that even if you are angry it’s better to be honest ?

What’s really sad is that our only Canadian guild (30 people max online at the same time) left us during the first week against Desolation and Ruin and only has been there for one week (and a little part of the week before) before it, when we won against Vizunah and Elona. So they only were on Arborstone for two weeks.

It was almost one month ago http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/1/5

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Outmanned buff EB at 11pm and almost doing as good as your server.

10pm prime time, outmanned buff on eternal battlefield and on every other borderland. It’s not your great but yet non existing strategy and organisation (most of the time you use 1 ram, when you aren’t hitting our doors without using any siege weapon) who’s beating us, but your number and also because of all the people in our side who gave up world vs world (by switching to a winning server) after fighting Ruin for 2 weeks.

I think he’s speaking about your gameplay and teamplay and it’s true, you’re the weakest server that we have fought in this ladder that we have met. Even while we were in the one day matchup, every FFA server without organisation were better than Baruch.
It’s not because spanish people aren’t good, it’s because you don’t seem to have many people who are used to play in world versus world, as i can see that your official forum seem to be dead. You have got a lot of casual player, if not most of your player that are.

Both Elona and Arborstone (lost many people who left us after droping to T2, because there’s an other FR tagged server above our) aren’t as strong as they used to be, but if you ever get in T1, you will be the last server of the matchup with 100k less points as the second, because there, they will be people to fight during the night and you haven’t enough people during the rest of the day to be able to do something. And i’m only speaking about number, not even the quality.

But i’m kind of happy to have to fight you in this matchup, since Elona is really boring to fight. They only fight in their fortress, or try to rush a fortress with 30+ people and 6+ ram.
With you, because you’re not organised at all, it’s good for people who like to play in open space, alone or in little roaming group, or those who want to train their group tactics.

On arborstone we had almost 2 hours of queue at prime time and always had to wait for a few minute to get on any map when we weren’t on prime time, exept AFTER 2am. Almost never had the outmanned buff until we got to T1, but only during the night and sometimes in the morning.
Now we have got the outmanned buff a big part of the day on every map, even on eternal battlefield, untill 5pm, sometimes a little more and no queue, exept during prime time, but only on the maps where our big guilds play. That mean, no queue in prime time on eternal battlefield.

So yes, our population have changed very strongly. I will give you a little tips to help you check this by yourself, select any player of Arborstone between midnight and 4pm and try to look for outmanned buff, which wont be hard to find.

If you don’t get crused next week deso, you will stay another week in T1 again xD

- Arborstone lost too many people and we have got the outmanned buff way too often now. We almost never have any queue, no matter what time of the day/night, even during prime time.
- Elona is still organised, but too boring to play against, because they only fight in their fortress, or to rush one with 6+ rams. They could easily get in T1 if they tried, but it seem like they aren’t doing their best to avoid that …
- Baruch Bay only play between 10pm and 5am, the rest of the day, most of the time they only hold their ground on EB, with the outmanned buff on all the others borderland. They have got the worst gameplay (individually and in group, without anything close of an organisation) of the all the server we fought against (AS started from the bottom of the ladder, since it was added later, so we have seen most of them), but if you try to check the part of the spanish speaking forum, it’s kinda dead, nobody’s there.

With that setup, you’r (Deso) going to enjoy the T1 untill Baruch bay manage to get there, or Arborstone, but it doesn’t seem like we will make it, or if elona really want to go in T1.
I don’t think the servers on T3 and T4 could make it to T1, if they manage to get in T2.

BT = Number and good organisation.

Deso = Number and FFA without any organisation.
Make a lot of point during the night when there is nobody to fight and when the ennemy also give up during the day, they can also make some. That wont work against BT, so they will have to fight night and day against people who can fight back to earn some points.

VS = Good organisation, but not an international server, so far from having as much people on their side.
If desolation stop on relying only on their number, VS will be at the third place.

Hum Cabd, like this one :

Desolation fighting doors during EU sleeping time :
2012-11-05 08:05:19 91743 +625
2012-11-05 07:45:24 90875 +635
2012-11-05 07:24:14 89341 +675
2012-11-05 06:36:59 86857 +630
2012-11-05 06:18:59 85980 +620
2012-11-05 05:10:28 82698 +435
2012-11-05 03:44:04 79425 +470
2012-11-05 02:45:30 77097 +410

Desolation fighting people, while they did upgrade all the forts with all the wood they gathered :
2012-11-04 23:44:42 72879 +180
2012-11-04 23:16:03 72310 +215
2012-11-04 21:59:17 70576 +215
2012-11-04 19:19:49 66914 +225
2012-11-04 17:43:34 65239 +240
2012-11-04 16:58:56 64362 +200

Single ladder = All the US guilds who moved to EU ladder going back to the top 2 old top US servers, to be in the easy winning server. (Look at how they are stacking on 2 EU server, to be as much as possible against outmaned ennemy)
Problem solved, but the US guilds on EU ladder might start complaining, because they would have a lot more challange fighting each other.

eiennnoai.9870:

I have got an awesome idea from the previous posts. All of Europe should move to Desolation (or BT ?) ! Everyone will perpetually win. This is what have already been started, just a bit more untill everyone gets there and can share the #1 rank together. Fun US guilds are welcome too !

LoL

It’s exactly what people are thinking and doing atm, but not only from europe, because we can see that a lot of people keep transfering on those server.
In a few weeks, half of the gw2 population will be on desolation or blacktide (until they can manage to get a room on desolation), the other half on the other servers ^^

There isn’t really an average lvl of the players from a server, an alone random casual player will always be one, it doesn’t matter where he come from.

For the gameplay of a server, you have to look at the organisation of this one and of their commanders. A good commander need a good guild to have a decent amount of good and trusted players to follow him.

Vizunah Square : A strong alliance, very few skilled guilds and a single strong guild, but good organisation, mostly for managing the timing of their alarm clock. Got many FR player wanting to be in the top server since the start, so they always had a bigger amount of player than their opponent, in order to win in the end.

Arborstone : A strong alliance, on one of the newest server, that has been added few days after the release, when all the other FR server were full. It did climb the ladder from the bottom of it.
A lot of skilled and strong guilds that really help when they are playing.

FR random player keep switching to the winning french speaking server, that’s why Arborstone is actually not as strong as last week, or at the start of this week.
If you keep winning, you get stronger by the number, as a french server, but as soon as you start to loose … xD (even at 8pm, you can get in EB without waiting atm)

Elona : The best server for organisation, strategy (too repetitive and not creative, so a good server can’t lose 2 times against that server) and big battle, but the expetion to the rule, they are really very very bad in 1vs1, 5vs5 to 10vs10, because they aren’t used to it. But you wont be able to find a lot of them willing to fight, instead of running when they aren’t in a lot bigger group.

FS and Blacktide, it’s not a taunt, we may have not have the chance to meet the good guilds, but they had nothing special.

Desolation : Same lvl as Augury rock and it was the first time we fought against full bunker/defensive server, who were too shy to attak a fort with a greater number (AR had sometimes a big zerg of 40-50 players patroling between 3 camp, without seriously attaking any fort for almost a whole day, even when we had less than 20 people on the map, they were only defending) and when we got one, they were awefully ugly with no strategy/gameplay/teamplay. But we may not have seen the good guilds.
For the second week against desolation, zerg is a good definition, only constant number, not always overwhelming, but absolutly no strategy exept the constant attak. I hope to at least see “Iron” guild play once and expect they can do something else as defending or sending their lemmings like the rest of this server.

The solution is to merge US and EU bracket to make it an only one international ladder. Since it’s a 24/7 battle with people transfering to servers with an other timezone to get easy victory and saying it’s a part of the game, even if i dislike it, it’s true, so there is no point in having 2 brackets.

Actually, AS have got 1 canadian guild with something like 15-30 players every night (For AS, after 3am we aren’t really much, and after 6am, most of people are sleeping) and without them, we have got something like 20-30 players on each map.
Yesterday VS didn’t want to take the risk to to drop to T2, so they didn’t play during the prime time and they were like 50+ at 6am against close to nobody.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/1

You will win, but i don’t think you will stay more than 3 weeks on EU servers at fighting against 10 to 50 people on each map with more than 100 people on during nightime, because in less than 30min, you will own all of them and might get bored xD

But as i can see, you seem to enjoy it actually http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/15

1266 deaths and 15584 kills, with an elementalist glass cannon (dual daggers or dagger+focus), always in the front line, in front of the tanks xD

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

Click on the server that you want to check, to see how many points it was earning at a specific hour of the day. But it depend of the update of those who did send the score.

This is the stats for this week, for our current matchup http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/1