Guild Wars 2

Atlanis.1473:

Err, I’m Outmanned on every bl everyday, even home at times lol.. and exploiting happens on every server mate.
RoS has a horrible reputation when it comes down to cheating (I know a lot of that is false or just due to individuals since RoS was my home..) but that sorta makes it RoS can’t complain about some individuals using “ac hacks”, because your people do literally the same and I see none of us crying about it (for a change, because I remember people accusing RoS in every matchup lol).

And yea i just replaced UW with RoS, fun eh?

See how easy it is to post some random junk, it proves nothing.

No matter how much Server X cheat’s, it doesn’t give you a freeride to cheat too.

Justifying it by saying but but but you cheat too, and your reputation is so bad, which it isnt btw. maybe in your shaded biased view it is, but only that.

I totally hate cheating, no matter if its done by an ally or by a foe, it’s foul play.

I enjoy the matchup, i don’t care who wins in the end, but stop acting like your the topdogs here, cause the few RioT i saw in eb where barley noticable.

Let the flaming begin!

Keva
[Rain]

10/10. i love you keva, don’t ever change!

And yeah, matchup thread seems to be dominated by the same few riot blowing smoke up their own kitten-holes, funny that.

Hows dat band-wagoning working out for ya scienna?

GJ so far underworld, keep up the good fighting guys!

Travlane.5948:

VaaCrow.3076:

DirtyBird.6093:

Anyone who thinks Thieves are overpowered are either extremely bad, or braindead.

Lets consider this:
pve – potentially the worst class in the game
pvp – very little play and good at ganking people who are glass cannon-ish or bad
wvw – pretty much roamers and scouts. This is the majority of my gameplay as a thief, I also have an 80 warrior, ele, guardian, and mesmer.

Guardian – super tanky and can achieve decent dps with amazing survivability, blast finishers, and group support. Also can roflstomp a thief in 1v1 1 handed while sipping a kittentail and chatting with your mother on the phone depending on their weapon selection (traits don’t even matter if you know what you’re doing).
Mesmer – the only class in the game that has probably seen the nerf bat as bad if not worse than the thief. at least they have good group utility with time warp portal null field and feedback. Still feel bad for my mesmer friends
Warrior – extremely vanilla but can still stomp a thief like nobodies business, especially if your pvt.
Ele – D/D got nerfed but rightfully so, do-it-all builds that are THAT strong need a nerf. Staff ele still has amazing group support via combo fields, heals, siege situations, and general gameplay, just kinda boring imo.

Thieves are forced to be either 1 of 2 things in wvw – a super scout with massive survivability and mobility where you get no bags and feel like some 8 yearold birthday party clown, and/or pistol dagger sleepfest, or you go massive burst, sacrifice EVERYTHING to do so, and fail 1/2 the time at what you’ve worked so hard to get, and get CRUSHED in zerg fights

Enough of this bs crying about stealth. Thieves are slippery? It ran away? Great. your still alive and just mildly frustrated. Deal with it. roll a necro and be the flavor of the month op wvw class like everybody else or gtfo. Thief was DESIGNED by their trait line to obtain massive dps through raw crit chance and overall damage buffs, and were nerfed according to people who play these classes so badly that if a thief were to play say pvt gear or knights or any survivable set, they would be doing far less dps than other classes that don’t have the lowest health pool and medium armor AND still have no group synergy. Class is bad as it stands. Play one before you kitten, learn their weaknesses and youll never have a problem with them in wvw.

TL:DR – If you think thieves are OP you don’t play one or you’re bad at the game. Thanks.

Scared our troll class might be fixed? lel. Seriously i play thief ask anyone on underworld, As my op pic proves. Its op as kitten in wvw, no challenge to play, i’m not saying i’m amazing, but i like to think i’m pretty good, and my opponents arent scaled nubs, they know how to play. all i want is for anet to make the class hard to play.. make it so we can be de-stealthed by aoe (but no reveal buff) or something, nerf our damage a little, i really don’t mind, just make the class a kitten challenge to both play and fight against.

tl;dr thief is not challenging to play. (1k hours on one, i know)
ITT thieves crying that one of their own admits its kitten op in wvw.
Seriously..

ur amazing… 76% world completion? not even half of your awards on character screen? 2 lvl 80s? you dont even have the experience to say which classes are OP and which are not! lol thats like saying well cancer hurts worse than a brain tumor…….but not as bad as a nerve disease……………but u have only had 1 of the 3 …..how can you really say? i highly doubt you have 1k hours on thief….if u do u play in a noob server or noob area idk what to tell you. but i play against plenty of people that can beat thieves quite easily.

Don’t post random hate in my thread, because my opinion differes from yours, keep it on topic and positive, and don’t attack the server i play on because you feel entitled to defend a class that is broken. As for your little compariosn of terminal illnesses and thief gameplay, it isn’t relevant atall and should not be something you bring up on the forums as it has nothing to do with gameplay and is an offensive comparison. my “lack” of awards and map completion are directly related to the amount of time i’ve spent in worldvs world as opposed to in pve. And i again wanted to say, wow, you sure are “special”!

Hey, i belong to a guild called [ape] Gorrillas on drugs.we’re a mainly wvw focused guild with a core group of 20-30 members, we have a TS/ communicate on it. Community in it is nice and when we run as a group in wvw its very efficient. we also run dungeons and guild missions but wvw does come first in the guild prioritiekitten me up ingame via /w if ya wanna chat, character name is fili shade. i can also suggest 2-3 diffrent guilds depending on what you’re looking for too.

Arganthium.5638:

VaaCrow.3076:

Don’t roll a thief, imo boring gameplay and brings nothing to small group roams, go for an engi or mesmer. both are very good in small groups when played right.

Seriously? You were the one that came to the thief forums crying for a nerf and saying that you had “over 1k hours of thief gameplay”, now you’re saying that it’s boring?

“Oh, I played a really boring profession for over 1k hours that does nothing for group roaming. Roll a different prof. Oh btw please nerf thief.”

In that very same thread you’re so expertly qouting me from i explicitly said i found the class unchallenging >>>>>>> BORING. how thick are you, lol.
In that thread I asked for a balance? I said the class is op? both valid opinions, given my experience with the class, I also said the class is unchallenging in my OPINION? Oh hurr durr quit being so kitten, lol. the 1k hours is more to do with my thief having a comm tag in wvw than it was to do with me “loving” the gameplay, it was fun for a time but i feel the class needs to be made more difficult to play, thats why i made the thread to see if anyone else shared that opinion > some did.

And instead of attacking my posts in someone elses thread maybe you should contribute > the OP asked what class to roll, he asked for opinions! I gave mine as did many others, but then again i wouldn’t expect trolls like yourself to understand that. go back to spamming heartseeker, forums are too above your capability to think.

MIrra.3604:

VaaCrow.3076:

DirtyBird.6093:

Anyone who thinks Thieves are overpowered are either extremely bad, or braindead.

Lets consider this:
pve – potentially the worst class in the game
pvp – very little play and good at ganking people who are glass cannon-ish or bad
wvw – pretty much roamers and scouts. This is the majority of my gameplay as a thief, I also have an 80 warrior, ele, guardian, and mesmer.

Guardian – super tanky and can achieve decent dps with amazing survivability, blast finishers, and group support. Also can roflstomp a thief in 1v1 1 handed while sipping a kittentail and chatting with your mother on the phone depending on their weapon selection (traits don’t even matter if you know what you’re doing).
Mesmer – the only class in the game that has probably seen the nerf bat as bad if not worse than the thief. at least they have good group utility with time warp portal null field and feedback. Still feel bad for my mesmer friends
Warrior – extremely vanilla but can still stomp a thief like nobodies business, especially if your pvt.
Ele – D/D got nerfed but rightfully so, do-it-all builds that are THAT strong need a nerf. Staff ele still has amazing group support via combo fields, heals, siege situations, and general gameplay, just kinda boring imo.

Thieves are forced to be either 1 of 2 things in wvw – a super scout with massive survivability and mobility where you get no bags and feel like some 8 yearold birthday party clown, and/or pistol dagger sleepfest, or you go massive burst, sacrifice EVERYTHING to do so, and fail 1/2 the time at what you’ve worked so hard to get, and get CRUSHED in zerg fights

Enough of this bs crying about stealth. Thieves are slippery? It ran away? Great. your still alive and just mildly frustrated. Deal with it. roll a necro and be the flavor of the month op wvw class like everybody else or gtfo. Thief was DESIGNED by their trait line to obtain massive dps through raw crit chance and overall damage buffs, and were nerfed according to people who play these classes so badly that if a thief were to play say pvt gear or knights or any survivable set, they would be doing far less dps than other classes that don’t have the lowest health pool and medium armor AND still have no group synergy. Class is bad as it stands. Play one before you kitten, learn their weaknesses and youll never have a problem with them in wvw.

TL:DR – If you think thieves are OP you don’t play one or you’re bad at the game. Thanks.

Scared our troll class might be fixed? lel. Seriously i play thief ask anyone on underworld, As my op pic proves. Its op as kitten in wvw, no challenge to play, i’m not saying i’m amazing, but i like to think i’m pretty good, and my opponents arent scaled nubs, they know how to play. all i want is for anet to make the class hard to play.. make it so we can be de-stealthed by aoe (but no reveal buff) or something, nerf our damage a little, i really don’t mind, just make the class a kitten challenge to both play and fight against.

tl;dr thief is not challenging to play. (1k hours on one, i know)
ITT thieves crying that one of their own admits its kitten op in wvw.
Seriously..

Hiya!

What server are you on? Can we duel a few times and show me how easy it is to play? I mean, I have over 1500 hours but at least to me it is not easy at all. Maybe I’m doing something wrong.

So, please let me know what server you’re on and I’ll transfer and we can duel. How about a small wager of 250g for best 2 out of 3?

I didn’t come here to ask you for a duel, 1.5 k hours, great, still find it challenging? good for you, for the players less easily appeased all i came here to do was gather opinions on wether or not the class was under challging to play, it seems like a 50/50 split. i didn’t want to start a flame war and i’m most deffinatley not going to take 250g+ transfer cost from you. i just want the class to be improved, with 1.5k hours you should want that too.

DirtyBird.6093:

Anyone who thinks Thieves are overpowered are either extremely bad, or braindead.

Lets consider this:
pve – potentially the worst class in the game
pvp – very little play and good at ganking people who are glass cannon-ish or bad
wvw – pretty much roamers and scouts. This is the majority of my gameplay as a thief, I also have an 80 warrior, ele, guardian, and mesmer.

Guardian – super tanky and can achieve decent dps with amazing survivability, blast finishers, and group support. Also can roflstomp a thief in 1v1 1 handed while sipping a kittentail and chatting with your mother on the phone depending on their weapon selection (traits don’t even matter if you know what you’re doing).
Mesmer – the only class in the game that has probably seen the nerf bat as bad if not worse than the thief. at least they have good group utility with time warp portal null field and feedback. Still feel bad for my mesmer friends
Warrior – extremely vanilla but can still stomp a thief like nobodies business, especially if your pvt.
Ele – D/D got nerfed but rightfully so, do-it-all builds that are THAT strong need a nerf. Staff ele still has amazing group support via combo fields, heals, siege situations, and general gameplay, just kinda boring imo.

Thieves are forced to be either 1 of 2 things in wvw – a super scout with massive survivability and mobility where you get no bags and feel like some 8 yearold birthday party clown, and/or pistol dagger sleepfest, or you go massive burst, sacrifice EVERYTHING to do so, and fail 1/2 the time at what you’ve worked so hard to get, and get CRUSHED in zerg fights

Enough of this bs crying about stealth. Thieves are slippery? It ran away? Great. your still alive and just mildly frustrated. Deal with it. roll a necro and be the flavor of the month op wvw class like everybody else or gtfo. Thief was DESIGNED by their trait line to obtain massive dps through raw crit chance and overall damage buffs, and were nerfed according to people who play these classes so badly that if a thief were to play say pvt gear or knights or any survivable set, they would be doing far less dps than other classes that don’t have the lowest health pool and medium armor AND still have no group synergy. Class is bad as it stands. Play one before you kitten, learn their weaknesses and youll never have a problem with them in wvw.

TL:DR – If you think thieves are OP you don’t play one or you’re bad at the game. Thanks.

Scared our troll class might be fixed? lel. Seriously i play thief ask anyone on underworld, As my op pic proves. Its op as kitten in wvw, no challenge to play, i’m not saying i’m amazing, but i like to think i’m pretty good, and my opponents arent scaled nubs, they know how to play. all i want is for anet to make the class hard to play.. make it so we can be de-stealthed by aoe (but no reveal buff) or something, nerf our damage a little, i really don’t mind, just make the class a kitten challenge to both play and fight against.

tl;dr thief is not challenging to play. (1k hours on one, i know)
ITT thieves crying that one of their own admits its kitten op in wvw.
Seriously..

Don’t roll a thief, imo boring gameplay and brings nothing to small group roams, go for an engi or mesmer. both are very good in small groups when played right.

Doomdesire.9365:

BM rangers are OP as hell in spvp. Can I get a nerf for that, too?

Oh ya ranger is my other class and you’re insulted i wanted to have thief balanced, way to go buddy +1 to your intelligence! Go ahead i play trap ranger. Seriously though quit defending a broken mechanic.

style.6173:

xmtrcv.5236:

Half the reason very few people take any posts in the Thief forum seriously is because they are a) completely baseless opinions, and b) the extreme difficulty people seem to have forming thoughts into complete sentences with grammar and punctuation.

Seriously, stop with the run on sentences. You make Thieves look bad when you post this nonsense coupled without any articulation or clarity.

“I am a Thief, please nerf me.” Yeah, OK.

Exactly. No one asks for a nerf on their own class. People who get pwned by a class ask for nerfs. The OP probably isn’t very good and is just hoping to make himself feel better.

Not very good? my thief is a badge/lootbag farming machine, i’m just saying its fruitless playing it in wvw, because 90% of the time the roaming kills ya get are easy, even if the enemy is great with his class i can just throw out blinds/burst or stealth + bleed him out. To say i’m bad at playing my class because i have a negative opinion of my own class is just silly, thief is my main, And i wish to make it more rewarding for me to play, hence the complain, if you don’t want your little d/d nub thief to be balanced thats too bad, don’t qq about it in my threads.

And i just came here to add to one of the many posts of nerf, because thief is just too easy to play in wvw, and i feel we should have some sort of nerf to make the gameplay there more rewarding/engaging. its simply too easy a class to master.. you can’t really say in its current state thief is designed, or working well in the confines of wvw. i just want thief gameplay to be less faceroll and more rewarding.. its just not fun anymore…

I don’t compare myself on this, i compare myself on utility, no defence? blinds, seriously, if you keep your opponent perma blind (not hard) they cant hit you with attack or cc, Stealth > trait for heal/condie removal and you’re golden! there is nothing we lack. it needs to be balanced better, E.g
hit in stealth = reveals me but doesn’t give reveald buff meaning i have to spend initaitive to restealth, thus losing my ability to attack as i will be ini dry due to restealthing, just a little change like this would improve the game play of thief 1000x over.
(sorry about my typing i only have one hand atm as the other is sprained so i typo alot.l)

Ehm, no not really, as i run with p/d and d/p builds, both are good 1v1-1v2-1v3. Its just silly.

Pentalic.5409:

Screens or I’m calling bullkitten on all of the above.

If you’ve played a Thief for that long, you would know that it is not a skill-less class.

Screen, and yea, maybe a little skill, but cmon man, you know we’re stupidly op compared to other classes in wvw right? they balanced the kitten class from day 1 badly, and since then have only made them worse and worse to both play as and fight, i want to feel like an assassin, not a troll when i play this game.

I’ve mained a thief, fili shade, for months, got near 1k hours on him/commander and all that kitten. but cmon man, ANET please, nerf us, its no fun to fight as a thief and its no fun to fight against a thief, the class takes little to no skill to play well and brings nothing but trolls to the game. I know anet wont touch the stealth mechanic because they lovee it but cmon, thief is just awful.

Dat teso release getting sooner and sooner….

still nope? hope this happens today..

bumping for eu servers having this.

Need rabid set on my ranger, can anyone on a realm with Crusader Benson/whispering temple up post here? i’d be eternally gratefull :S

bumpin for an answer

to the post above me, Kitten lol’d that is exactly how it is day or night, oh god my sides are in orbit, no better proof could’ve been presented. Nail on the head man!

At what point is a server considerd “greatly out manned” I was wondering at what ratio it occurs, 2:1 -3:1- 4:1? I’d just like to know as it seems we end up with the out manned buff somewhat less than we should on UW, lol. A definitive answer would be brilliant as speculation wouldn’t really help, Also ITT discuss the out manned buff and General improvements that could be implimented to it e.g those under the buff should be able to carry +100% supplies. because lets face it, if you’re out manned good luck holding onto a precious camp :S.

lordkrall.7241:

iorlas.6721:

It has nothing to do with putting the blame on other things.The spanish outnumbered us by even more than the germans.
They want to fight people who they know they will steam roll over,if it looks like they might lose they run back and hide in a tower.Never seen them take a camp with less than 20 and with the help of the “luftwaffa” nothing is safe

Actually it does.
We were clearly defeated by the Spanish because they had more and better people, and yet there were always talks in chat about how we only lost because the Spanish have no jobs and therefore can play 24/7.

And yet they have all the possibility in the world to do just that, and yet they don’t.
We are outmanned in most maps most of the time, and yet it is quite unusual that they push us out of WvW altogether even though it is most likely well within their ability to do so.

IF they only attacked when they could steam roll us, we would have been in the lead, but we clearly aren’t.

No offence krall, but you clearly do not spend as much time in eb as some of us, admitedly we arent fielding as great zerg as we used to in uw, but the drakkar are just awful, golem rush at 3am with 40 people, and in the daytime they sit in their corner till they outnumber us 3-1 then they go on the offensive, Never on fair odds > inb4 “gvg me mang rolf lol omg” GvG has nothing to do with the prestige of a realm it is simply a way to boost your egos. There is nothing skilled about how they play, they just field greater numbers.

UW should just boycott wvw for a week let drakk steamroll eb so we can tier down, five weeks against them has taken all of the fun out of wvw, no skill just numbers.

As an uw commander, i can safely say we are tired of drakkar, we build up our bl, drakkar golem rush with 20 golems at 3am, same for eb, with the occasional quent/durios loss in the daytime. GJ drakkar you really deserve to win /sarcasm. Seriously, you outnumber us all day, just tier up and leave so we can rebuild our realm.

The ranks are just there as a bonus to promote the new point system, 1 rank = 1 point, those points are used to gain bonus attributes with siege/in wvw general. the rank itself does nothing, but the points you earn with each rank speak for themselves, arrowcart range bonus is a must have!!

Currently, they’re facing Fort Ranik which is well-known for blobbing and Drakkar Lake (perhaps not as egregious with their blobbing as Fort Ranik; I can’t be sure as it’s been a long time since Aurora Glade faced them).

How is life + wvw on aurora glade? I’m considering jumping ship from uw for a while and this server has been suggested to me.

4) Underworld is at tier 6 and Ruins of Surmia is at tier 7; both are multi-national EU servers. Both used to be much further down the ladder. They’ve climbed a bit, learned a bit, and appear to be reaching a balance point.

As i previously stated i would not reccomend Underworld right now. Our alliance of guilds has recently collapsed, we lost alot of our hardcore wvw-ers and we’re perpetually out manned in this tier by Drakkar and Ranik. I’m considering a hop to Ruins of surmia currently its become so bad.

Hey, Glad to see someone agrees with me, I currently reside in Underworld (eu) t6. What you’ve been told about small groups may be accurate on the NA servers but in EU t6 is ridiculous.. Both other servers have such sizable blobs 24/7 that we’ve been able to do nothing, our skill and hard work defending is completly bypassed by sheer weight of numbers!! in a T6 server!!!! Anyway I’ll save my QQ for another time, just wanted to know if any other eu realms offer a better wvw environment (i don’t mind teiring up or down) but a server that is build on skill and resourcefullness in wvw as opposed to blobbing would be ideal.

spl.3695:

Azunai.1065:

I personally played D/D ele sicne release, got my 2 incinator and full ascended trinkets

now tell me one reason to keep playing GW2

Heh, yeah, as I wrote in my post in Fish’s thread about this, been rolling D/D since release and gathered up laurels and everything to fully kit her out in ascended trinkets. Well, except rings, which I got from FOTM. Lately, as I was getting bored a bit, I’ve been entertaining the notion to make her gearset “complete” and grind out a pair of incinerators, even started working towards it a little. Guess that won’t happen with this change, since I don’t see myself playing my main any if this goes live.

Bunch of laurels wasted anyway. Overall, this change kinda feels like a slap in the face – I did my dailies every day and everything to get the ascended trinkets, and this change makes me feel.. “why bother anymore?”. I mean OK, so, what if I shelf my main, maybe find another profession that I’ll enjoy equally (doubt it, tried everything but necro and ranger so far, my engineer’s been parked basically since he hit 80 a while back),… what’s to say that they won’t do the same to that class – so I go out, get everything I want for it, feel satisfied about the build and the effort I put into getting said gear as I want it to be, just to get it taken away by a random sweeping change which will ruin the profession,.. kinda sad. These kinds of changes should be done, well, with a much, much, much lighter touch. I really don’t care about the reasoning behind it – fact is, the class was like this from launch onwards – there was plenty of time to “fix” it earlier, or seriously say “guys, eles bla bla, nerfs incoming, be prepared!”.. this is just.. meh.. and insulting in a way.

So, yea.. I getcha.

HAHAHAHAHA. No, Syllam just no, roll a real class that cannot run away across all of the eb map to its safezone

Mubarizun.6435:

Please don’t think you are winning your 1v1’s through skill. Most of us could not see you for more than a few seconds and did not have enough aoe to burst you down before you safely disappeared to the other side of the map.

The game engine and your artificially long invisibility are the reason for your wins.

As many have said, this is not down to culling it is down to your inability to combat thieves because you are oblivious to how they work. Take your QQ elsewhere because culling has been fixed and you cannot excuse your terrible playstyle on the basis of culling anymore.