Guild Wars 2

runeblade.7514:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Warrior has some of the highest DPS, down body cleave, and rampage is still a reasonable skill.
Warrior works better in smaller fights, and is a counter to necro.
While most classes lose effectiveness in smaller fights, warrior gains it.

Similarly to a thief, you have to build a comp with a warrior in mind. It is not plug and play like the mindless top 4.

Most warrior works better against noobs. So does every other class but better.

I think you just got spanked historically by warriors in pvp, and this is your way to achieve revenge, it’s very entertaining to completely disregard your posts as troll, thanks for the laughs, you should consider doing some live standup, where the crowd would laugh at you, not at your jokes.

None because blade and soul is awful compared to gw2, truly truly awful

Spirited Was Eceni.3869:

VaaCrow.3076:

We paid a fair price for HoT.

As for very little content, New wvw map, new pvp game mode. new tournaments in pvp. 4 new pve maps and relevant content, guild halls, raids, new fractal design, new armor, new weapons, new legendaries, new events, new achievements. And not to mention the continuation of the living story when they get around to that, which was ALOT of content prior to HoT despite how you may feel personally about it. I’d say the price of HoT was fair.

I don’t have the energy to argue against this level of brainwashing. All I can say is I’m glad you’re happy and I congratulate ANet on job job well done.

Right because i have a difference of opinion with you, and point out actual fact, i must be brainwashed. I hate people like you.

The op makes me cringe truly wish he will disappear from existence, that is all.

Swagger.1459:

It’s the principle of the matter. They are a business and we are the customers… You take care of your customers period.

In other mmos festivals are the same ever year. It provides everyone with the same opportunity to complete the events, and doesn’t lock out new players. I’m sorry but the only thing they should address is make it more like the first winters day with op toy mobs everywhere.

This way everyone who plays the game gets to experience the same event and work towards rewards that they missed last year, or weren’t here for.

My only complaint is that toypocolypse isn’t party content, as i wont do it without friends.

Spirited Was Eceni.3869:

I’ve spent the weekend beta testing Blade & Soul and it was like a breath of fresh air compared to GW2. Lots and lots to do, the traits tree really does make a difference to your character skills. Fights are fast and fluid. Whether it still feels good in six months remains to be seen but the game is free and not p2w.

I logged onto GW2 for the dailies and guild events and it just felt boring and slow. ANet have removed so much from the game since launch and GW1 that it just seems like an empty shell, the GW1 skill system still outclasses GW2 with its skills locked to weapons nonsense imo. They’ve done this slowly so we hardly noticed a little bit here and there. Then they made us pay the price of a full game for what amounted to very little content and maps.

I’m beta testing Black Desert Online from Wednesday this week as my search for a GW2 replacement continues but one thing is certain, I’m here only until that replacement is found. I pre ordered Black Desert as it’s b2p and was happy to do so as the world looks huge with masses of things to do. Again, I may feel differently in six months but who knows?

Have a look around at what’s on offer in the b2p and f2p market then tell me we paid a fair price for HoT.

We paid a fair price for HoT.

Blade and soul is poorly optimized and the combat is alot less fluid than in gw2. Not to mention the art style is poor at best. The voice acting is awful, and the character design is poor. Yes it may offer quests, and in depth grinds. but it’s not aimed at the casual mmo players like gw2 is.

As for very little content, New wvw map, new pvp game mode. new tournaments in pvp. 4 new pve maps and relevant content, guild halls, raids, new fractal design, new armor, new weapons, new legendaries, new events, new achievements. And not to mention the continuation of the living story when they get around to that, which was ALOT of content prior to HoT despite how you may feel personally about it. I’d say the price of HoT was fair.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

VaaCrow.3076:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

VaaCrow.3076:

some of the bosses require condi/heavy boonstrip, you will be needed. stop using the word viable, you can play what u want, just find a good group.

Except you can’t play what you want if you want to get through raids as they’re pretty strict, besides requiring a good amount of skill and coordination.

It’s a game, find a group who aren’t strict. Skill/coordination can be on all builds, its not limited to the one ones posted on metabattle for the sheeple to worship.

Where did I say that? “Playing what you want” still won’t get you through raids, as you’re going to require minimum amounts of DPS and whatnot, so you can’t go in there with a rather defensive team because your damage will be lacking.

You imply that playing what you want means “does no dps atall” so again, op play what you want find a group of people who arent kittenheads, and have fun.

Sorry but the dishonour thing is good to stop greifing/quitters, try to get a better connection.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

VaaCrow.3076:

some of the bosses require condi/heavy boonstrip, you will be needed. stop using the word viable, you can play what u want, just find a good group.

Except you can’t play what you want if you want to get through raids as they’re pretty strict, besides requiring a good amount of skill and coordination.

It’s a game, find a group who aren’t strict. Skill/coordination can be on all builds, its not limited to the one ones posted on metabattle for the sheeple to worship.

some of the bosses require condi/heavy boonstrip, you will be needed. stop using the word viable, you can play what u want, just find a good group.

gunnars is awesome, but we lack commanders, and offpeak presence ;p

Also leveling huntsman to 450 isn’t so expensive, could always do that.

You can have more than two crafts leveled on each character by default, you must just swap between them incurring a small ingame fee, there is no need to purchase an extra crafting slot.

Oh no, you will have to play the new content, woe is me.

Buck up and do a bit of pve, it wont kill you.

fireflyry.7023:

If it’s a non-issue for you kitten and enjoy.

Attempts at invalidating others issues with little more than “..me and the missus are rocking out guild hall so kitten….” make you look like a wally.

Yeah…hypocrisy.

I actually found his point spot on, it’s about time the general population of this game actually learned how to play some of the harder content in this game without 60 other people spamming 1 and helping them. Getting guildhall stuff as a small guild is relatively easy, all it takes is a bit of dedication/work + some rudimentary pve knowledge/common sence and if you’re unwilling to commit to upgrading it then you shouldnt have it.

Fengzhou.9853:

Kulvar.1239:

Fengzhou.9853:

the problem is the quest you clear out the Exalted area guild hall for example is far over-tuned for small groups.. It’s impossible to do with 3-4 people in the time limit they impose.

My guild did it with a group of 5 people.
The event scale with the amount of people participating.
More event pop, more foes.

Very possible, if people know how to PvE and are properly geared for this.
Train yourself in Magus Falls.

Maybe 5 is the magic number, depends on group composition and gear as well.

For mine it was me and 2 other people, 3 isn’t enough for the Exalted area guild hall is my guess. I also wasn’t in ascended or exotic gear.. which can certainly play another factor in it.

My personal skill isn’t a factor in the issue with this either.

Your personal skill and gear is most definitely a factor in this, you were not using gear designed to be used for the content you were playing ( exotic, ascended). exotic is cheap to acquire, and appropriate for areas with level 80+ mobs. If you had the personal skill you speak of you would have a properly geared character ready to tackle the content, that fact that you did not, makes your complaint more of a joke.

As for people, we did lost precipice kitten -6 (one dc’d) and had no issues with it being difficult, we failed once, got it 2nd try once we saw how the mechanics worked, and realised what we had to do, which mobs we had to kill first, etc.

I’m sorry if my comment reeks of attitude, and i don’t mean to insult with this post. But how can you expect to withstand level 80 mobs in substandard gear with a lack of understanding for the pve mechanics. I think you need to log off the forums, re-evaluate how you approach end-game content, and Google how to gear a level 80 character.. As having someone running around in yellow/blue/green gear is more detrimental than helpful….

slamfunction.7462:

Vayne.8563:

We have a monthly sub. It’s called the gem store. You can pay $15 a month every month if it’ll make you happy.

I was looking for a better package deal. >_>

Anyhow, “optional”, so no, its not required. You can still play the game freely, but for those of us who want a monthly, can reap better rewards.

Also, the game has been P2W for a while now. You can pay tons of money to get your crafting up, and then tons more to get ascended crafting materials, sans the BoA materials that are fairly easy to farm.

Nope, no support. You want subscription with bonuses, spend £15 on gems each month and buy boosters/convert to gold. the subscription idea you presented is another example of people with wealth believing they are entitled and consequently more important, because of that wealth, in the world today. I’m sorry but just because you seem to have a little extra money, does not mean you are some super special snowflake deserving of more than others.

Vayne.8563:

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

Astrella.8930:

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

social justice warriors.

Do tell. Is it the fact that they acknowledged that hey, lesbians and disabled people exist???

No, the fact that they beat us over the head with them using pretty stereotypical blunt force theatrics. “Oh, lets go pick out curtains” Really? I am disabled BTW. Tiami makes me a bit ill in both design and characterization. Designed to be pitied. No thanks. Honest, subtle integration would have been far better. Obvious tokens are tokens.

They only beat you over the head with it if you’re sensitive to that. I never felt beat over the head with it. Because when I see someone who’s a lesbian I see a person and when I see a handicapped person, I see a person. I just see people.

It’s sad that so many people feel beat over the head with labels.

As for exaageration in the genre, it’s the rule for a reason. Half the people skip cutscenes and don’t read text. What you see as beating over the head, I see as making accessible to those not paying attention.

Why should i be forced to pay attention to it, i don’t care. I don’t care if the characters are lesbians, thats great for them. i don’t care if taimi is disabled. I see them just as normal characters, i don’t want stereotypical nonsense thrown in to make their appearance change from just “ohey this is different, nice to see this becoming normalised.” to “wow, token and tacky” throwing in gimmicks to constantly draw attention to the fact that they made a solid effort to put dynamic personalities into the story is just silly.

DaniTheHero.6318:

The new guild system hinders small guilds rather then helps them. Each upgrade has a minimum price of 300G to make.

The missions aren’t the issue, they required the same amount of people before HoT. But now the upgrades are impossible unless every guild memeber showers the storage with 100G each.

it does not cost 300g per upgrade… seriously do you pull these figures out of your kitten?

Your thoughts on druid are silly, because it is supportive/does less overall dps it cannot compete? They’re taking away the zerker meta bit by bit. you can’t judge things on dps alone. Today on my druid got alot of kills roaming in wvw. and for daredevil i’m running a p/p sbow build with very little stealth, so being spotted is fine, because i have so many evades… you need to play these elite specs to have a valid opinion on them. it’s just not the same as watching them.

Iason Evan.3806:

We talked at length about this in the guild hall cdi. i posted over and over again how this type of system would really be detrimental to smaller guilds because the costs would be so prohibitive. Why shouldn’t all guilds get to build up their hall? Why could content have been made to earn this just like the content that was made to actually get the hall. All my guildies really enjoyed the difficulty of getting the hall. It was difficult in a good way for a smaller guild. Building the guild hall should be the same thing. You get a mission to get supplies for your tavern. You complete that series of missions and you get all your materials! You can’t sell them so it doesn’t affect the economy and it gives guilds content to play together.

Instead they decided on a massive gold sink for everything that leaves small guilds out of a way to build a guild hall for their guild. It’s awful.

The game NEEDS gold sinks, this was a good idea, it doesn’t shut you out, you can still farm these things. It just means you can choose between, A: pay high price and get stuff quick, B: farm gradually and unlock slow.

It is not locking small guilds out of the content, it just may take them longer, As I lead a small guild personally I am OK with this as it gives us something as a guild to work towards with continuous small contributions. It’s actually had a very positive effect on the guild, people are running around in pve farming in groups for mats while in hot area. Others are throwing some hoarded mats in, some are doing dailies for quartz crystals, everyone is contributing a little and it’s having an overwhelmingly positive effect on the social atmosphere of the guild. We all want to have an epic guild hall, and we’ll work together to get it.

Please don’t paint all small guilds with the same brush,some are clearly not as impatient or short-sighted as others are, apparently. Just because you don’t like this system, does not mean we will all share that opinion.

my guildis relativley small, 30-40 active members, we’re allready at the phase of guild workshop, we’re all throwing small amounts of relevant materials in that add up.

I hope you do this and get banned, it’s kittens like you that ruin both real life and now video games for other people.

mcwurth.2081:

either way, legendaries are useless.
do not get me wrong, they look cool and all, but as far i understand with the new system we are forced to go in pvp and play that to be able to make a “new” legendary weapon… sigh. yeah forced.

/sigh, just like we pvpers/wvwers have been forced to step into pve for the last 3 years in order to make a legendary…

rajule.8054:

Kicast.1459:

Arnath.2319:

Just want to say that there are those who love Dragonhunter.

Traps are AWESOME! Crazy powerful.

You have already lost all credibility.

Thematically, they are similar in concept to Necromancer marks, but use Smite magic fitting for the Guardian.

Except Marks are far superior in every way.

Spear of Justice is vastly superior for a condition build.

This is proof that you do not understand this class, Spear of Justice is TERRIBLE for condi builds. To play a successful condi Guardian you go Virtue traitline and NEVER use your F1, you rely entirely on the passive effect and the traits that buff that passive.

The Dragonhunter traitline is very good.

Stop… please stop. My head hurts.

This
I am really concerned about these people feeling dh is somewhat good.
It is as if we do not play the same game.
I am mostly pvp / wvw (roaming and raid)

I have been trying kitten dh with meditation with traps or even with shouts on tanky and dps builds…everything is just a huge blast of innefficiency.
Crappy damage at the cost of loosing efficient sustain and support.
I still don’t get how people manage to get high damage on longbow 2. With the time of chanelling I have same dps landing two aa in the same time.
Virtue casting time is a massive nerf to our survivability. (remember that positionning in gw2 is of very litlle added value with all insta teleport flying around)
Rooting skills is just a nogo on any semi correct oponent.
Traps…I see one thing efficient for trap which is bad design to be honest : test of faith with 10 dh staking it it can be a zerg killer. While subpar in almost all other scenario it will be nerfed to uselessness without compensation as usual.

How on earth can people enjoy the hypothetical new content that is about to be given to us ? I really hope I am mistaken…because otherwise hot will just be a “thank you guy but reroll to enjoy”
This I am not pleased to feel forced this way and will not commit.

I can’t stand crap like this. You are perfectly welcome to not agree with his opinion or assessment of the DH, but people are allowed to enjoy things you don’t. It has no affect on how you play the class so lighten up.

This, so much this. Just because you don’t like it does not mean other people are not allowed to like it, you people need to get over yourselves, the game is not designed specifically for YOU.

@OP, glad you had fun.

Junkpile.7439:

zinkz.7045:

mordran.4750:

^ This . Really guys, this is some form of open world pvp and if you believe in some bizarre honour codex…

Don’t think it has a huge amount to do with “honour” as such, it is more about fun, if I 5v1 some guy what is the point, there is no fun gameplay, I guess there is a “point” for PvE PPT heroes who think they are protecting a camp or whatever, but for an actual PvPer it is worthless, I’d rather 4 of us stand back and 1 of us do a 1v1, then at least one of us will get a bit of fun.

If enemy wanna fight some 1 vs 1 fights it’s very fun kill him 15 vs 1. It’s even more fun when he whine about it.

This is the best, juke the enemy into thinking you’re alone, soon as he’s in combat rest of you appear and bam, instant qq. this honour code some people seem tohave for their wvw game play is utterly ridiculous lol.

Nah, i’m from Gunnars Hold, we get alot of roamers here, still kill them with people i’m in a party with, why? because their on my home bl, i don’t care if they don’t have fun. Also OP i don’t know why you try to belittle the defending of ones home bl, just because you don’t do it or enjoy it doesn’t mean that others don’t love it, and play wvw daily for home bl. I don’t care if we 100v1, if you on home bl red=dead.

Only thing that needs to be killed is stealth, killing those pu nab memsers is easy (i play necro) full sinister with traited/signets for condition transfer. they literally kill themselves

Looking to see if there is anyone has had success with staff when roaming, if ya have post build, looking for a change up and i’m terrible at working out guardian builds myself, I just never see staff outside of zerg and am curious if ya can get it working on a decent gs/staff roaming build.

xaviarrob.1760:

I don’t think anyone understood the main point of this, I’m not saying the ‘Karma Train’ doesn’t have it’s place, I’m just saying that the place for that should not be a PvP zone. The point of PvP and more-so the original point of WvW was to beat out your opponents, to receive bonuses for your world. I have no doubt that 90% of the people from EOTM should this happen, would move strait to silverwastes, or whatever end game zone allowed this with the new expansion. I understand many of you find this type of thing fun, I’m not trying to take it away.

On the point that people would move to WvW for a k-train, this is untrue. With improvements in defense giving players real reason to defend a camp, tower, or castle, this will keep players from just rushing. Yes there will still be a main zerg, but this doesn’t mean they’ll be able to move around as fast when things are actually being defended. Additionally with GW2 being free, more players will be running around (eventually) making more defense/offense as well.

Lastly, EOTM is Chaotic, it IS great for leveling, but there is nothing strategic to it,it’s very much a grind, and it really can’t be called WvW at all (What player battles exist are groups of people mashing into each other and dieing, no strategy at all). For World Vs World to be what it really was meant to be, PvE needs to not be there, in the way it is in EOTM. I’m all for a fast paced WvW, but how it is now is NOT how it needs to be. Like I said above, I don’t think this needs to happen now, I think we would really see benefit of this happening when other things are fixed.

It’s part of many things (Zombie Zerging mentality, People PvEing in WvW, need of players, need of better defense, etc) that need to be done.

I myself would be one for 1 much larger map with combined servers(Like get it down to 3 total ‘Servers’ since they don’t really matter with megaserver, other than WvW), and much more emphasis on Guilds, and their emphasis in the world, but I understand there are technical limitations and that’s just my opinion of course

Uhm, no thanks, I like my server, and it’s community, and I like having multiple maps to play on. Megaserver doesn’t belong in wvw. I like my server, i would not play on another.

OP why are you afraid to do something in a video game? This is literally the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever heard. You can do/be whatever you want in video games, especially ones when rp is involved. so seriously, what on earth is there to be afraid of, lol.

gennyt.3428:

VaaCrow.3076:

Chaba.5410:

Obviously this is taking an idea to the logical absurd extreme.

Maybe on the other hand it is time to have a map with an SMC on point cap A and another SMC on point cap B and all your skills are removed. You can only use siege to attack and defend. Then players can show off their commander siege skills.

See how this works? Not constructive at all, is it?

I was giving my opinion, using siege is apart of wvw, whether taking/defending objectives to open field fights. If it’s been 3 years and people still cannot accept that having a problem with siege in wvw is fundamentally silly, unless it is troll siege ofc, than maybe it is time for those people to either try pvp or try a different mmo, as clearly their perception of what wvw should be in their opinion, and what it actually is are very different.

Yes siege weapons are a part of WvWvW and personally that’s not what I take issue with. It’s that people overuse them because they can. See pic below. Does that seem like a fun time for an opposing team (if you do stuff like this, don’t complain if no one wants to deal with that and there are less people for you to play with). Player weapon skills are also part of WvWvW but learning how to make the most of those becomes a less attractive option for some when they could just sit in relative safety and hit like a truck.

http://i.imgur.com/MIuv7JI.png

I’m sorry all i see in that picture is the potential for alot of fun, both for attackers and defenders, that siege forces you to use sneaky tactics like flanking portal bombs or stealth jumps when you’re attacking, and it allows the defenders ways to create time to get a reactionary force back there to defend, or it helps them to slow/whittle down a blob with larger numbers, neither of these are bad things.

and yes it really can be fun to fight things like that, the harder the challenge the more fun it is to overcome, because when you finally conquer the defenders after they have all that defence you know you’ve played much much better, and you’ve had an epic fight there.

I’m sorry that you feel like you’ve been wronged because people use siege, sure it can be annoying, but this is wvw, a war, it is not meant to be fair or balanced, it is meant to be won. And if you’re not utilizing all of your options to both secure a win in a fight, and have a blast at the same time, then maybe it is time for you to take a step back and question whether you want to continue playing or not.

Once again, fair fights are fun, yes, but in wvw there is no such thing as fair, and it won’t make you happier if you’re letting a misguided sense of honour alter your perceptions on how you think people should and should not play a game.

atheria.2837:

xaviarrob.1760:

I’m sure people have suggested this before, but hadn’t seen it so here it is.

World Vs World right now has become something really, well, what’d I’d call almost ridiculous. I’m a GW1 Vet(Played in it’s alpha even in Pre-searing!) and even played in the GW2 very early betas. When I saw footage, and played World vs World originally I was in awe, the idea of this in a Guild Wars game was really great, and exactly what I wanted.

When playing it there were many problems as I’m sure many of you know, originally arrow carts were ridiculous, there was still a zerg, but it was FUN. Our group of 5-8 could go around, build trebuchets, or what have you, seige the side of castles and open up holes for our zerg while also contributing to taking supply camps, small towers etc.

With Edge of the mists this was Killed. Player count in WvW which you used to have to Queue up to every map for (Which was good) was decimated by people farming in the new map. The new map just consists of the zerg running around and farming events, and has nothing to do with world combat. This takes completely from WvW total players, and if these people do want to zerg it would at least be 100% better (With the changes coming in HOT) to have these people in the normal maps. This will in turn push some of the zerg, off of it, and back into the defense, etc to make the WVW experience much better.

TLDR: One thing WvW misses right now is Players. Sorting this would make the combat a lot better.

Second point I think is Autoloot, If this were real life — yes, stopping to loot things and ‘Pick them up’ would make a lot of sense, but when people aren’t smart enough to go back to get their gear AFTER the fight, what happens is it causes both the zerg, and normal people to either:
A. Spam f while in combat
B. Stop mid chase to loot

Both of these are bad for the overall for the WvW experience I think, and I really hope for the first one at least this gets considered for the HOT release, because if not WvW will likely stay empty other than the zerg.

This WvW siphon is hard for lower servers but impossible at the top three.

EOTM was never a good idea.

Join me in the Silverwastes, I will show you fun that we’d not want taken from us as players who can show what real teamwork can do.

This is the event to teach how to progress through events, and if done correctly you get quite a bit of things you need for every aspect of the game.

They finally found a way to buy that Pre-Cursor you have sitting in the TP if you just abandon EOTM, come to WvW for raids and ask that Anet keep the Silverwastes as a permanent feature of Guild Wars 2.

I will teach anyone who thinks that they are having fun in EOTM that they really aren’t, well, I am sure there may be a few who don’t like being able to make gold and get to ascended with all characters without massive pain again, finally.

Yep, the fun finally is back in events, but it certainly isn’t in EOTM.

Come back to WvW, your server needs you.

Come to the Silverwastes with empty bags and MF food.

I’m sorry but all i got from your post was condescension and “your opinion is wrong nd mine is the only right one” attitude. You cannot tell me what i do/do not enjoy. So do not try to do that.

As for taking away eotm? Why? Lots of people, judging by the amount of people you see there, enjoy it.

Some people have alot of fun in eotm. What you are suggesting is not taking into account their idea of fun, only yours, which seems rather sad really.

90% of the time i play in home bl, though sometimes i like to run around in eotm collecting some bags/zerging/trolling with fear on my necro. I would be upset to lose my eotm time.

MattyjRulz.2840:

I don’t typically roam, but when I do it’s always solo.
With so many players grouping up and/or running cheesy builds I’ve found a way to still have quite a lot of enjoyment out of roaming

So when I do come across other roamers, I tend to have my fun in the chase and to (in a way) waste our time. If you think about it, I’m stopping them from doing anything meaningful so it is helpful in a sense :P

The main idea is to be on a high mobility class, with tanky stats, decent condi removal
(variations of a Nike warrior is good for this), when you find other roamers / a group of roamers, get them to take chase. The only time I find this a challenge is when groups chase me, but that’s okay, I slow down my pace a little for solo roamers

There’s a delicate balance to it, you don’t want to get too far ahead or they’ll smarten up and stop chasing, but you want to draw out the encounter as long as humanly possible. I’ve once got a solo thief to do a full lap around the northern half of a borderlands map :’)

I find roamers typically much better squirrels than zerglings, and to me it’s certainly much more satisfying than fighting cheesy builds or groups of roamers.

Considering how often I find others who are willing to chase me for a decent cross-country, I’d guess they have fun also, otherwise why chase for so long.

People like you are exactly why myself and a few of the people i roll with in wvw tend to slot alot of hard/soft cc. We don’t usually allow you to get your giggles with the “chase me chase me” part, we usually force you to skip ahead to the “OMG THEY CAUGHT ME, ALTf4!!!!!!!” lol.

Chaba.5410:

Obviously this is taking an idea to the logical absurd extreme.

Maybe on the other hand it is time to have a map with an SMC on point cap A and another SMC on point cap B and all your skills are removed. You can only use siege to attack and defend. Then players can show off their commander siege skills.

See how this works? Not constructive at all, is it?

I was giving my opinion, using siege is apart of wvw, whether taking/defending objectives to open field fights. If it’s been 3 years and people still cannot accept that having a problem with siege in wvw is fundamentally silly, unless it is troll siege ofc, than maybe it is time for those people to either try pvp or try a different mmo, as clearly their perception of what wvw should be in their opinion, and what it actually is are very different.

They are playing the game as designed by using siege, sorry if thats not your personal idea of fun.

Thanks for another terrible match up anet, truly a great system for it you have here. I await my infraction for this with baited breath, clearly you won’t allow anyone to speak their mind about how the mu’s are generated.

roaming with a few guildies is the best way to fight, sorry if you don’t have any friends op.

THIS IS AWFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. GH is stuck fighting 2 dead servers……………………. we just had epic week with AG/AR, and before that AG/AM.

Jayne.9251:

MaximillianVonSchatten.6278:

Jayne.9251:

MaximillianVonSchatten.6278:

Jayne.9251:

You realize statements like these will make your entire guild KOS to enemy servers right?

What you’re describing and admitting to is trolling/purposefully griefing. And I believe you can get banned for that.

I don’t see how he can get banned for doing what you are supposed to do in WvW

She’s admitting to being purposefully disruptive and attacking teammates in order to get them to leave. It’s griefing.

Nope, they were wiping out the enemy on their map who happened to be trying to GVG their teammates. You are supposed to wipe out the enemy on your map and no amount of make-believe GvG etiquette rules can change that.

Obsidian Sanctum has lovely locations for GvG; in BLs, disruptions should be expected.

Yes, but she didn’t say that did she?

I made sure what i was doing wasn’t breaking the rules, i was using siege to kill enemies, i was using traps to kill enemies, we were tagging up to lead our zerg to wipe enemies. Just massive coinsidence those enemies were choosing to GvG. And as for being kill on sight, i welcome it, when they can’t kill us and die it makes it even better!

Nice video, looked like alot of fun, shame there was no equally skilled enemies in the ones that came to that camp though, would have made the video a bit more interesting.

Well there used to be a few guilds like you described on gunnars hold, they were abusive in team, did nothing to help out home bl in primetime when they were wasting slots, and in their offtime they trolled our commanders/other guilds. They were wasting slots on the map in primetime and not defending, so we were losing the whole map alot of the time b/c we simply could not get enough actual defenders in.

So myself, my guild, and quite a few other just decided to do what we could to make them leave, we’d treb their fights, stealth trap the enemies they fought, hit with siege, call ppt zerg to wipe enemy, basicly we made it clear we did not want them on our home bl, and we didn’t stop this until they left, it took about a month. It was worth it.

100% worth doing if they are becoming a detriment to your server, if they do nothing to assimilate into the population and do not play to help the server then you should do what you can without breaking the rules to get them off ya server, ruining their fights and using siege to kill the enemies they fight, running over their fights with ppt blob, all things you can do that break no rules. It’s also ALOT of fun doing it, lol.

Jayne.9251:

And I think I’m done with this thread. I’m starting to repeat stuff, which is a colossal waste of energy.

I think your whole history of posts to this thread were a colossal waste of energy, all ya did was qq and proclaim that no one has the right to interrupt your duels. then throw out false information about duellers being the super hardcore scouts of wvw. Whatever will we do without the input of one super speshul snowflake.

Jayne.9251:

sigrdrifumal.3752:

Jayne.9251:

Scroll up in this thread for why I don’t use OS.

Honestly you don’t need a reason to not use OS. OS is not for roaming, it’s for premeditated duels and GvGs. What is fun about roaming in WvW, as opposed to, say, SPvP or OS, is that the fights are spontaneous and organic. It’s the same reason why people play PvP servers in other MMOs. Sometimes duels happen, and it’s toxic behavior to not allow players to enjoy duels that have no affect on their server’s performance at all.

Well what I think these folks who are saying “if it’s red it’s dead” don’t understand is that the bulk of these duellers/roamers are your server’s scouts who do all the grunt work others won’t do. If you continue to tick them off by not being respectful of alternative gameplay, a tiny bit of a break from the crap jobs they do, you’ll find your towers/keeps are not upgraded, siege is not built or refreshed, and then the enemy will just swoop in and take your stuff with no resistance.

I am a scout, i upgrade and roam, as do 90%of my guild, IF someone interupts our fight, weather it is fair 1v1 or 2v2, it is just “/shrug” then finish fight fast and stomp the enemy then move along. For alot of us, fighting is alot of fun, but denying enemy groups caps/objectivs/of their fun, is alot more entertaining. I’m sorry but plz don’t try to speak for me/the roamers/scouts, let people give their own opinions.

As for not affecting their servers performance, sure they do, that is 10-12 people sat around doing nothing, they could be killing enemy yaks/zerg tails, capping camps/towers/contesting keeps. WvW is a game mode where you are supposed to be thrown against chaotic odds. it is NOT balanced for 1v1, i don’t know how you are so dense as to not see this. And if i see a duel/fight/anything where i see a server mate either losing/close/about to be ganked, i will jump in, gank the enemy, then corpse jump. or if they duel close to a friendly dolyak, or if there’s nothing else to do. lol.

Puck.9612:

What ever you need to tell yourselves to justify ganking someone that is clearly dueling instead of waiting your turn to fight them 1v1.

don’t need to justify it atall, this is wvw, there are no rules in war, sorry if you have some misplaced sense of honor, but not my problem.

Absolutely any time any place, If they are in bl/eb. Duelers/gvgers got given obsidian sanctum for this stuff, not my problem if they don’t use it. I especially enjoy it when it is just a bunch of enemy thieves waiting for duels (this is the case more often that not) or d/d eles. The salt these guys throw at you in /w after they get ganked is priceless.

I’ve played wvw for nearly 3 years and i’m fed up of seeing GvG people asking Anet to pander to their needs. You bugged and bugged them and wasted lots of slots on our bl in prime time over those years, costing us many upgrades. You even had a dev tell you he didn’t like what you were doing in wvw. Then you got given obsidian sanctum. You got your gvg area, be happy. The gvg community I’ve witnessed on GH has been rather toxic, we’ve had guilds pass through who flat out enjoyed trolling us with their gvg’s knowing it was costing us wp’s, offering no help and being rude to people in /t non stop, so i’m content with them being on a different map having absaloutley 0 influence on my servers performance.

You’ve been given OBSIDIAN SANCTUM. An area designed for gvg/scrims. Why can’t you be happy with that, yes sometimes you have to wait, but so do REAL wvw players when they queue for a map. No it might not be big enough, but asking for instanced content for one minority group of players is just silly when there are so many existing things in wvw that require dev attention.

Edit, removed offending guild name to avoid name/shame

uknortherner.2670:

OP, who is this “we”?
The entire GW2 playerbase?
You and your guildies?
…or just you?

I certainly don’t recall wanting capes, so you’re not speaking about me.

I agree, Please OP don’t pretend to voice my opinion for me, I for one certainly do not want capes in this game.

I don’t see the point in anet bringing back stuff like this and limited edition skins. it was here and now it is gone, ya had a chance and didn’t get it. So what if you view the people who have it and would like to look unique as “self aggrandizing” not everybody wants to look live every other sheep out there, mmo/rl are both the same in this aspect, people like to look unique. no reason to ruin that, just to cater to envious other people