Guild Wars 2

Who cares about the double team.

YES JQ will target us over SoR because we are the softer target and JQ lack the power to really fight any of us at the moment by them self. It sucks because a 3 way fight is more fun, but that is not how this system works.

Honestly i like it this way. Running fewer numbers into a giant mob only to break a Treb to buy a few more mins is awesome. Fighting off giant zergs and bogin them into slog match is more fun to me then any thing else.

Last week we had no one to fight during EU prime and the little time i had to play was a boring drag with no one to fight. SO i say bring on the 2v1 and have a blast with it.

I would rather lose every fight as long as i have some one to fight. There is nothing worse then running out of targets and challenges.

It was the same in Warhammer the most fun i had was being outnumbered 3-1 and when that turned around we started winning that game lost every thing that was fun about it as the enemy zerg’s got smaller and we ran out of people to fight.

During EU it was a massive zerg in both BG and SoR.

So many Trebs to take one tower.

Flagship?? Really?? More like one of the most loudest guilds on there server that likes to talk a lot of crap.

I have not fought them in some time after IRON came over because they kind of went away from EU prime during that or there numbers where to few to really spot so i can’t speak for there skill level now vs before.

They have good movement, but they tend to be very against getting stuck in a solid slog match and they tend to use very mobile charges with small gatherings in between. Stop and push more or less. There biggest weakness is that they tend to be very obvious in there movement favoring stacking, might with Hammer charge following in and of course they long drown out fights are something they tend to stay out of. IF they do not get the upper hand early they will not stick it out.

This is not a value judgment or any thing of that strategy.

They will siege and stay in that, but every time we have hit them on open ground they tend to break off rather then fight to the end. It makes sens to a degree i guess.

Selwynn.2758:

Waage.2047:

Any chance DB have some solid EU guilds for my to kill?? If not i will have to burn all of JQ to the ground in a fit of rage.

JQ kind of lacks EU unlucky so DB your my only hope.

Me and my rag tag group of people who are staying up way past their bed time get regularly crushed by you! Believe me, we all wish we had better EU coverage hehe

Yeah i have noticed that there are some scrapy JQ willing to try things, but you are outgunned at late EU prime. It is to bad.

Offski.4897:

This thread has to be kept alive, adding RNG into the match ups was mindless(or economic, more gems to pay for transfers). I find it unbelievable that one up one down was not introduced.

Elona, SOR dropping tiers = a joke
SOS fighting the 1st and 4th servers = a joke
The match ups are so uneven it is a joke.

But hey when has Anet ever listened to what we, the people who play wvw have to say?

The Anet employee’s come into wvw drop an ac, get a few bags and think that is how wvw is played. They try and keep the tiny minority of outmanned servers happy by making ac’s op etc etc etkittenil the company gets a true wvw player or two as advisers this crap they introduce will never end.

My rant could go on, but its just absurd atm.

The tiers are only broken because we Broke it. We kept taking more and more guilds in every where from server to server we are all part of the problem.

Tier 1 broke the system by our greed and now we will be punished for it. Well you will i still have JQ to fight, but it is all good. Maybe it will slowly make some tiers better.

Over all it is a good thing.

kevinskyrider.3271:

Waage.2047:

Any chance DB have some solid EU guilds for my to kill?? If not i will have to burn all of JQ to the ground in a fit of rage.

JQ kind of lacks EU unlucky so DB your my only hope.

I could be mistaken, but didn’t EMP have a decent EU force back in JQ? Not sure if they still do as [RE] on DB.

Yeah back in the day they did, but i don’t know if it was dedicated EU or runoff from other timezones.

Elano.2014:

showatt.9413:

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Isn’t he in JQ?

Waage.2047:

Any chance DB have some solid EU guilds for my to kill?? If not i will have to burn all of JQ to the ground in a fit of rage.

JQ kind of lacks EU unlucky so DB your my only hope.

Nope, sorry, we always lacked that. Back in T2, once we were ticking +500 PPT then went down to +50 in 3-4 hours after our SEA logged. :P

Thats to bad. Well we RK is not that big 15-20 max so a large enough pug army can still take us. SO if you dig in and fight you can still crush us…. Hopefully there will be some decent fights.

Gellor.6497:

Waage.2047:

Any chance DB have some solid EU guilds for my to kill??

No chance

Dam. OH well do you have a TON of crappy EU guilds i can fight instead?? Like if there is enough of them it should still be a challenge.

Any chance DB have some solid EU guilds for my to kill?? If not i will have to burn all of JQ to the ground in a fit of rage.

JQ kind of lacks EU unlucky so DB your my only hope.

VoxShatterfall.5470:

Ah hoots don’r worry about that guy.

I know you folks do indeed have alot of skilled players.
Heck TSYM was on SoS for many weeks – and I believe they were very skilled.

BTW this afternoon on TS we were talking about who to be worried about – guild tag wise – and your guild name came up.

It is not about that. SoR have gotten a bunch of guilds into there server, but because we in BG have done the same somehow we are only built on getting more new guilds in every 5 mins. It is more or less TW and a few other forum warriors way of felling special by talking crap. It is why Tier 1 was so toxic. Now that SoR is gone it is kind of nice there.

Raven Paradox.1860:

Forget the ranking system. BG is only a high tier because they recruit everyone possible rather than try to better themselves. SoR is number 1 because it grew based on skill.

Yeah all the guilds you have gotten to SoR are not important in any way. IRON is so not the largest European guilds on a NA SERVER in any way shape or form. I mean we RK is only numbered 3 to 1 by them.

All the other guilds that have joined SoR over time they are not real guilds at all. No you grew in skill only…

Fixeon.5076:

Aieo.2815:

Did SoR changed their gameplay back when SoS was still in T1? I remember they were passive and keeping their own corners and not really playing for ppt.

In a manner of speaking, yes we did change our gameplay. We have to be very aggressive now in order to get any fights at all. Most of the time if we sit in our corner and do nothing no one comes to us. There is no action no fights. When we first came to t1 JQ and SoS were more than happy to come a knocking at our door, or in a field of battle. Now more than anything we are spotted and the enemy zerg runs into their tower or keep 90% of the time. So, in return we have begun to just bulldoze everything in our path to make sure we get our fights/loot bags every night. I wish it was different I really do. But I honestly think that the fact that SoR BL is red 90% of the time a day after reset is an indicator that JQ and BG would rather not fight us. It is true however they are more than willing to send 10 omegas into SoR BL every so often to catch us off guard, which works 50% of the time. (mostly because finding scouts who want to sit and watch a gate for hours at a time with little prospect of it ever being hit is difficult) Most of the time SoR BL= Karma train of camp and sentry post with an odd tower thrown in from time to time.

I miss the good old days where no matter what BL you were in that night there was good fighting to be had. While I don’t think any t2 server would have the coverage to win in t1 I would like to give them all a chance, you never know it might be surprising. At the very least it would be a change of faces and hopefully some renewed action.

There are few people that know how to break a tier 3 defended keep against entrenched forces. After the you need the right numbers to do so.

The issue is that we in RK is mostly needed some where else. So the question is do we spend 1-2 hours hitting a keep that will be hard to take even if it goes our way or do we help our own guys in another Borderland that is under attack.

If i had time i would be sieaging your borderland for the challenge, but i have to help my server first over all.

When JQ had the upper hand during Asian RK often enough logged on and took our borderland back and started the process of building it up so that NA was free to attack the other two sides.

There is also the issue that right now you can break the camera with a hack and use it where ever you want. So you can target things that you normally can not with a AC and there by make defending something impossible.

Ahh man RK, ION and a few others took tier 3 JQ Hills in BG.

JQ got super unlucky in that fight. There North scout was away for a few so we manged to take out there hills FAST by pure dumb luck. Scout noticed us to tale giving us full power to go in with a ton more numbers cutting a lot of them off from siege.

Bad luck and timing for JQ.

After that i was going to hit bay agian this time with my full forze that had started to gather under my command and the words “Reset in 3 mins” came up and that was it for RK for the night.

OH well had some awesome fights inside BAY!. Great fun wiping people that got over aggressive vile ramming outer down from the inside.

Kryyg.8576:

Waage.2047:

Jahn.7019:

Waage.2047:

Jahn.7019:

Kaimick.5109:

Jahn.7019:

Kaimick.5109:

I have gotten use to the Poor NA attitude in fighting on BG, we have some good guilds but yet we go out manned everyday on maps and we are not getting people on to work together. I have also gotten use to the Double Team, and to the JQ person askign why are BG and JQ not Double teaming SoR welll good question. I am sure SoR would love to have the challenge

Sounds like a core problem within BG. I agree with the poster above that BG probably has absorbed a lot, if not the most, wvw orientated guilds of the 3 servers yet their performance does not show. It seems that the entire atmosphere of BG is toxic. You need a strong leader to step up to re-organize the server or the current active wvw guilds should start over somewhere else to be quite frank. It’s obvious the current “eat up as many servers/guilds as possible and we’ll be ok” strategy isn’t working for BG.

That being said, if it requires a 2v1 against SoR, then it requires a 2v1 against SoR. I think most Rallians are used to being the underdog by nature, so a 2v1 would bring that back for them since that’s where they thrive.

You have to realize that where BlackGate has a lot of WvW guilds we have a lot of PvE and PvX guilds. Which might I add also tends to out number the WvW guilds. Even though they should never really matter, some of the WvW guilds are fair weather and negative to a lot of things and eventually that ends up affecting other guilds. I would love to be rid of them but what can we do, hopefully we can eventually get rid of them only time will tell.

That’s a core issue then to be frank. Look at the list which I posted. You could probably even make the argument that BG has the most WvW guilds of any server in any tier and yet they still go out trying to buy guilds over to their server. You should do the right thing and send some of these guilds to other servers that need them more(ie JQ for T1 or FA for T2) and work out your issues within your server. It’s obviously not a population or coverage issue that BG has.

Yes we are the toxic ones. I mean you need to be here on this forum spreading lies about BG because your leadship is so great. I can see how SoR is a great server by your actions alone.

We should learn from you.

psht i heard that IRON was given gold to help move over to SoR so there for SoR BUGHT IRON and that is slavery. SoR is pro slavery.

Two different people who play on BG have come outright in the last 2 pages and said you have issues over there. I’m just analyzing it. If you have a problem, talk to your fellow BGers. You can blame me and paint me to be a bad guy all you want, but it’s not going to fix the problems your server has internally.

edit: Correction 3 different BGers have come out and posted that you guys have severe issues on BG. One of them even going as far as saying they hope some of their WvW guilds leave the server because they are so toxic.

No what they said. What most of them talked about was not issues with in BG as whole, but the fact that where having issues with the new TS! As in because we use a new TS it had made it hard to deal with things.

Also if Kaimick is who i think it is i still don’t care. He is from one guilds and his opinion is his to keep, but most of the others where touching on basic issues like the fact that we have a lot of PvX. LIKE SOR.

Remember how most of SoR stopped showing for a bunch of weeks in a row. SoR always had a strong NA and now you have a STRONG NA and EU. The strongest and yet all you do is sit here and lie. WHY??

You’re always angry, why?

I am not angry. Not every one in the world walk around with there head in the cloud smiling from ear to ear about every thing. I call a tool for a tool.

Hoots.9564:

Evalana.5480:

Wait wait waiiit! We were promised ‘things’? Mmmm nope. They offered to help us xfer but we paid our own way. We have been having tons of fun here. Stop speaking for BG. You’re not even here. Go play in your sandbox and stop peeing in ours. Thanks! <3

Well looks like someone got played! As effective as your guild has been since arriving, its a shame BG did not give you the same deal as the other 2-4 guilds before you that are now dead. Who knows maybe its not too late for BG to pay up!

Hey TW why did you pay to have IRON come over to help you during EU?? I know we RK guys kept beating you and you could only do quick strikes, but did your server really have to pay for transfers to win.

That is really sad TW!. WHAT it is not the entire truth and i am making things op….

Jahn.7019:

Waage.2047:

Jahn.7019:

Kaimick.5109:

Jahn.7019:

Kaimick.5109:

I have gotten use to the Poor NA attitude in fighting on BG, we have some good guilds but yet we go out manned everyday on maps and we are not getting people on to work together. I have also gotten use to the Double Team, and to the JQ person askign why are BG and JQ not Double teaming SoR welll good question. I am sure SoR would love to have the challenge

Sounds like a core problem within BG. I agree with the poster above that BG probably has absorbed a lot, if not the most, wvw orientated guilds of the 3 servers yet their performance does not show. It seems that the entire atmosphere of BG is toxic. You need a strong leader to step up to re-organize the server or the current active wvw guilds should start over somewhere else to be quite frank. It’s obvious the current “eat up as many servers/guilds as possible and we’ll be ok” strategy isn’t working for BG.

That being said, if it requires a 2v1 against SoR, then it requires a 2v1 against SoR. I think most Rallians are used to being the underdog by nature, so a 2v1 would bring that back for them since that’s where they thrive.

You have to realize that where BlackGate has a lot of WvW guilds we have a lot of PvE and PvX guilds. Which might I add also tends to out number the WvW guilds. Even though they should never really matter, some of the WvW guilds are fair weather and negative to a lot of things and eventually that ends up affecting other guilds. I would love to be rid of them but what can we do, hopefully we can eventually get rid of them only time will tell.

That’s a core issue then to be frank. Look at the list which I posted. You could probably even make the argument that BG has the most WvW guilds of any server in any tier and yet they still go out trying to buy guilds over to their server. You should do the right thing and send some of these guilds to other servers that need them more(ie JQ for T1 or FA for T2) and work out your issues within your server. It’s obviously not a population or coverage issue that BG has.

Yes we are the toxic ones. I mean you need to be here on this forum spreading lies about BG because your leadship is so great. I can see how SoR is a great server by your actions alone.

We should learn from you.

psht i heard that IRON was given gold to help move over to SoR so there for SoR BUGHT IRON and that is slavery. SoR is pro slavery.

Two different people who play on BG have come outright in the last 2 pages and said you have issues over there. I’m just analyzing it. If you have a problem, talk to your fellow BGers. You can blame me and paint me to be a bad guy all you want, but it’s not going to fix the problems your server has internally.

edit: Correction 3 different BGers have come out and posted that you guys have severe issues on BG. One of them even going as far as saying they hope some of their WvW guilds leave the server because they are so toxic.

No what they said. What most of them talked about was not issues with in BG as whole, but the fact that where having issues with the new TS! As in because we use a new TS it had made it hard to deal with things.

Also if Kaimick is who i think it is i still don’t care. He is from one guilds and his opinion is his to keep, but most of the others where touching on basic issues like the fact that we have a lot of PvX. LIKE SOR.

Remember how most of SoR stopped showing for a bunch of weeks in a row. SoR always had a strong NA and now you have a STRONG NA and EU. The strongest and yet all you do is sit here and lie. WHY??

HB is not active during EU PRIME. They have a few people still, but they do not have the numbers for a sustained attack during EU that is only RK and we can only field 10-15 people. Iron alone outnumber us 3 to 1 in most cases and stay active for longer then we can.

Now answer me this how is this any different from all the guilds your server has eaten.

Liquid.9672:

Jahn.7019:

Sounds like a core problem within BG. I agree with the poster above that BG probably has absorbed a lot, if not the most, wvw orientated guilds of the 3 servers yet their performance does not show. It seems that the entire atmosphere of BG is toxic. You need a strong leader to step up to re-organize the server or the current active wvw guilds should start over somewhere else to be quite frank. It’s obvious the current “eat up as many servers/guilds as possible and we’ll be ok” strategy isn’t working for BG.

That being said, if it requires a 2v1 against SoR, then it requires a 2v1 against SoR. I think most Rallians are used to being the underdog by nature, so a 2v1 would bring that back for them since that’s where they thrive.

The atmosphere isn’t toxic at all. We have some kinks to work out with communication on our new TS setup, but other than that the environment is as friendly and organized as it can be. Sure there are frustrations at times, but I don’t believe any server is immune to that and it’s perfectly normal.

Why player activity dropped for certain guilds that transferred to the server is anyone’s guess. My personal feelings on the matter is some of those guilds were already hurting, and some players just wanted a last hoorah with a T1 victory before calling it quits on the game. The players that remain have been reorganizing and rebuilding their rosters, but that takes time. In the meantime, the core is still there doing our thing and leadership is still strong and doing their thing. But on many days and certain times we simply haven’t been able to sustain the same numbers in WvW as SoR.

I am one of the most Arrogant, loudest, angriest and most bullheaded commanders on BG. I have yet to see any thing wrong with BG in any way and if i had any issue then every one would know.

I like how quick SoR forgets why they are back as number 1. IT was not them coming together at a server and really fighting you got new numbers in. Even before IRON you got some smaller reinforcements in.

How quick they forget.

Like how the fact that RK was the only active EU guild from when HB lost a lot of there officers to real life and yet the news that came out was still. OMG BG SO STACKED!!! 15 active RK was all that was there for a long time and it is only recent we have gotten help.

Offski.4897:

Waage.2047:

Wrex.6798:

To be fair, we had some great fights in Bay, we actually hopped to EB cause we changed commanders and thought we might have some fun on EB. If you ever see us on a map / disappear from a map and want to fight just give us a whisper

No worry’s that is what i thought. Every one moves like they wan’t to i don’t mind.
It was fine for us we where only there for another 30mins after all RK can only be active for 3-4 hours a night because we are still a small guild. Very active, but no numbers to stay active for long.

Now i will ignore offski for now because every guild have blowhards with little sens who can’t see the bigger picture of a fight.

The two best fights was the fight in between bay and garri when we where staring one another down for a bit to see who did what. I was trying to get you to charge us, but in the end our vale faint worked.

The other fight is when we went inside BAY with your forces on the Bridge and took the top of the walls. You sent +10 around back to flank.

My plan was to let your 10 get closer, charge them in a faint and then come plug op the stairs and it worked, but you where to many. At least we manged to down a ton of yours so it was all good.

Thanks for the insult Waage, I’m not sure why you considered my response rude. It seems some people like to interpret a post in any way they see fit.

I was the one commanding tonight btw, but hey i’ll take your rebuke on the chin, for whatever imaginary slur i gave you. All I was saying was that we left the wall down at bay and did not build one piece of defensive seige so that we could have an even fight.

You insulted me, RK and Merc first.

This first.
we got tired of all BG and JQ running in to their towers as soon as we approached so we hopped border.

From your mouth and then there is the post you edited down.
Where you where talking about us running away and the commander calling for there to be put walls and marks so we could not run away written in CAPS!. Now you have edited that out.

That did not happen the 2 hours RK was in the zone we never ran . Before RK arrived in BG MERC was the only force there mostly made up at 10-15 Militia with a few Merc in between. Ralikh did a great job.

RK was called into help BG border and we had 15-18 RK on at our most powerful supported by a few EK and later on a few JL. We never had more then 25 at the most because we needed scouts every where to stop SoR and JQ havoc.

I the commander of RK that actively threw my guys at you several times to give you a fight knowing full well that you had at least 10-15 more then me. I actively took my guys out into open paths and into your bay knowing full well that it was a death sentence every body from RK. We did know about your arrow carts on the bridge.

What do you think i took 20 people into a choke vs more numbers in a effort to assault bay?? I went in there because i was testing your strengths and working on counters while also giving you the fight you have asked for and getting to have fun and your response to that was.

YOU RAN AWAY!! A direct lie and after the fact you edit your post down to remove your very rude behavior dose not mean that i will forget it. I guess when people come to fight you like you asked then you will show nothing, but contempt and i will take that into consideration.

EDIT: I Though i remembered Offski saying it, but i was mistaken that was Wolfbryn. Sorry Offski i called you out mistakenly. Sorry.

Wrex.6798:

To be fair, we had some great fights in Bay, we actually hopped to EB cause we changed commanders and thought we might have some fun on EB. If you ever see us on a map / disappear from a map and want to fight just give us a whisper

No worry’s that is what i thought. Every one moves like they wan’t to i don’t mind.
It was fine for us we where only there for another 30mins after all RK can only be active for 3-4 hours a night because we are still a small guild. Very active, but no numbers to stay active for long.

Now i will ignore offski for now because every guild have blowhards with little sens who can’t see the bigger picture of a fight.

The two best fights was the fight in between bay and garri when we where staring one another down for a bit to see who did what. I was trying to get you to charge us, but in the end our vale faint worked.

The other fight is when we went inside BAY with your forces on the Bridge and took the top of the walls. You sent +10 around back to flank.

My plan was to let your 10 get closer, charge them in a faint and then come plug op the stairs and it worked, but you where to many. At least we manged to down a ton of yours so it was all good.

Wolbryne.4037:

Waage.2047:

Hey IRON where did you go.

I and RK was not done fighting you guys. Any way nice to get a chance for some prolonged fights so i can test out my ideas finally.

we got tired of all BG and JQ running in to their towers as soon as we approached so we hopped border.

Why do you lie??

We where the ones running into bay that you controlled over and over and over again with the support of some MERC.
We also rushed your catas, trebs and all manor of things a ton of times.

So again why do you lie?

Hey IRON where did you go.

I and RK was not done fighting you guys. Any way nice to get a chance for some prolonged fights so i can test out my ideas finally.

Masori.3528:

Waage.2047:

Kryyg.8576:

Waage.2047:

LetoII.3782:

Waage.2047:

Masori.3528:

showatt.9413:

Masori.3528:

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We never ever stated we carry SoR. For all i know th reason we have it “so easy” is because SoR’s SEA and Oceanic.

But i was scouting yesterdays JQ zerg in Eb yesterday. They ran with atleast 60 players taking every BG they could consume. We even circles around the BGkeep to catch them. And we were 25 iron with 15-18 allies..
Still they ran towards bravost and stayed in. We started trebbing them. And instead of coming out, they start counter trebbing.

On BG border earlier that evening we had no competition. Thats the only reason we went to EB.
Guesz we’ll get some good fights this weekend.

Ohm you guys brought over a massive army that no one have numbers to compete against. RK is the only active EU wvw guilds on any of the servers that have numbers close to yours and you outnumber us by 10-20 people in most cases.

This information was available to you when you transferred over. When BG goes down a tier or get mixed out there will be no forces left to fight you. We have the latest Asian going into EU. This was all known information.

You’re not the only EU force on JQ. You have near a dozen board contributors from EU kitten . Between you and BG sea stripping us during this time… How do you not drown in so much bullkitten? Lol

RK is in BG not JQ. Yes there are other smaller forces like SF on JQ that run some stuff during EU, but they tend not to have more then 5-10 and ohter then that there might be a few here and there, but nothing massive.

It is not until at the end of the night the NA guilds start arriving that we see JQ forces out in force. Now for BG’s SEA the issue is life.
They can not push them self to my hour every day and RK can not stay active for longer then we do. We are a limited guild with limited number.

Yes sometimes we have help, but when we come on BG we are the only force with numbers. Yes there are others, but they do not have the numbers we do and IRON still outnumber us with 10-20 people.

Are you really crying about being outmanned by 10-20 ppl?

JFC, BG get your kitten together and help us out, putting us into a 1v1 against SoR because you guys are too busy crying into your pillow is making this a crappy tier right now.

No i am explaining numbers and how things are. Yes 10-20 is not a lot if you have a 100 people, but when you have 15 then 10 more to the other side of dedicated and skill wvw’s is a big hump to overcome.

Numbers are important to understand how army’s move and how servers can move. I was more responding to the one IRON complaining about lack of fights. It is common sense. Understand this i have and will continue to rune RK into army’s 2-3 times out own numbers like i did yesterday and we will have a blast doing it.

Also why should we start fighting harder so you can have a easier time?? What is in it for me. We fight all or no one because that is the RK way.

I never complained about the lack of fights. Never did I say such a thing.
I just said we didn’t have competition. Either it was people running away and hiding in their garrison or we indeed outnumbered the 5 man roaming groups.

Reading your post history all I see is bitterniss and salty tears.

Where is the RK that wanted to fight us 2 weeks ago?

We only have 15 or so out on average. We don’t mind fighting you at all, but RK is not that big a guild so our numbers are limited and so is the time we can stay active for ever. We have hit SoR BL most days so far with only a day in BG and a Day in EB this week, but we are stuck fighting larger numbers.

We have fun, we get a ton of bag’s, but at the end of the night we tend to lose most things because we have a deadzone.

What where you expecting from people in a time zone with few active dedicated commanders with guild support?? I mean do you not understand how pugs work? Yeah there is no competition because there where no one for you to fight other then our late night and us in RK. Again you are 2-3 times larger then us… so what do you wan’t us to do??

Kryyg.8576:

Waage.2047:

LetoII.3782:

Waage.2047:

Masori.3528:

showatt.9413:

Masori.3528:

Man refreshing the topic and went back a page. Moderators are busy bees again.

Anyways you should know that wrex was doing this for the laugh and trying to get some fights. Instead of the cat and mouse games.

And he chose a really poor way to do it.

You know, I have always hated JQQ. I think they’re the biggest bunch of whiners around and i love seeing them lose but the rubbish that comes out of your guildies’ mouths are pretty cringeworthy considering you’ve just transferred and already you’re acting like you carry the server while SoR had been competent to begin with.

Winning, losing, it don’t matter. I’ve seen server come and go, from back when Henge was dominating to the rise of JQ to SoS. Look at Kaineng and where they are now. Nobody wins forever. No one lose forever. The only thing that matters is how you present yourselves. Sure, it’s all for giggles. Sure it was just trolling to get the blood pumping. That doesn’t stop you from being a prik though.

There are better ways to go about getting a fight; being a forum warrior isn’t one of them.

We never ever stated we carry SoR. For all i know th reason we have it “so easy” is because SoR’s SEA and Oceanic.

But i was scouting yesterdays JQ zerg in Eb yesterday. They ran with atleast 60 players taking every BG they could consume. We even circles around the BGkeep to catch them. And we were 25 iron with 15-18 allies..
Still they ran towards bravost and stayed in. We started trebbing them. And instead of coming out, they start counter trebbing.

On BG border earlier that evening we had no competition. Thats the only reason we went to EB.
Guesz we’ll get some good fights this weekend.

Ohm you guys brought over a massive army that no one have numbers to compete against. RK is the only active EU wvw guilds on any of the servers that have numbers close to yours and you outnumber us by 10-20 people in most cases.

This information was available to you when you transferred over. When BG goes down a tier or get mixed out there will be no forces left to fight you. We have the latest Asian going into EU. This was all known information.

You’re not the only EU force on JQ. You have near a dozen board contributors from EU kitten . Between you and BG sea stripping us during this time… How do you not drown in so much bullkitten? Lol

RK is in BG not JQ. Yes there are other smaller forces like SF on JQ that run some stuff during EU, but they tend not to have more then 5-10 and ohter then that there might be a few here and there, but nothing massive.

It is not until at the end of the night the NA guilds start arriving that we see JQ forces out in force. Now for BG’s SEA the issue is life.
They can not push them self to my hour every day and RK can not stay active for longer then we do. We are a limited guild with limited number.

Yes sometimes we have help, but when we come on BG we are the only force with numbers. Yes there are others, but they do not have the numbers we do and IRON still outnumber us with 10-20 people.

Are you really crying about being outmanned by 10-20 ppl?

JFC, BG get your kitten together and help us out, putting us into a 1v1 against SoR because you guys are too busy crying into your pillow is making this a crappy tier right now.

No i am explaining numbers and how things are. Yes 10-20 is not a lot if you have a 100 people, but when you have 15 then 10 more to the other side of dedicated and skill wvw’s is a big hump to overcome.

Numbers are important to understand how army’s move and how servers can move. I was more responding to the one IRON complaining about lack of fights. It is common sense. Understand this i have and will continue to rune RK into army’s 2-3 times out own numbers like i did yesterday and we will have a blast doing it.

Also why should we start fighting harder so you can have a easier time?? What is in it for me. We fight all or no one because that is the RK way.

LetoII.3782:

Waage.2047:

Masori.3528:

showatt.9413:

Masori.3528:

Man refreshing the topic and went back a page. Moderators are busy bees again.

Anyways you should know that wrex was doing this for the laugh and trying to get some fights. Instead of the cat and mouse games.

And he chose a really poor way to do it.

You know, I have always hated JQQ. I think they’re the biggest bunch of whiners around and i love seeing them lose but the rubbish that comes out of your guildies’ mouths are pretty cringeworthy considering you’ve just transferred and already you’re acting like you carry the server while SoR had been competent to begin with.

Winning, losing, it don’t matter. I’ve seen server come and go, from back when Henge was dominating to the rise of JQ to SoS. Look at Kaineng and where they are now. Nobody wins forever. No one lose forever. The only thing that matters is how you present yourselves. Sure, it’s all for giggles. Sure it was just trolling to get the blood pumping. That doesn’t stop you from being a prik though.

There are better ways to go about getting a fight; being a forum warrior isn’t one of them.

We never ever stated we carry SoR. For all i know th reason we have it “so easy” is because SoR’s SEA and Oceanic.

But i was scouting yesterdays JQ zerg in Eb yesterday. They ran with atleast 60 players taking every BG they could consume. We even circles around the BGkeep to catch them. And we were 25 iron with 15-18 allies..
Still they ran towards bravost and stayed in. We started trebbing them. And instead of coming out, they start counter trebbing.

On BG border earlier that evening we had no competition. Thats the only reason we went to EB.
Guesz we’ll get some good fights this weekend.

Ohm you guys brought over a massive army that no one have numbers to compete against. RK is the only active EU wvw guilds on any of the servers that have numbers close to yours and you outnumber us by 10-20 people in most cases.

This information was available to you when you transferred over. When BG goes down a tier or get mixed out there will be no forces left to fight you. We have the latest Asian going into EU. This was all known information.

You’re not the only EU force on JQ. You have near a dozen board contributors from EU kitten . Between you and BG sea stripping us during this time… How do you not drown in so much bullkitten? Lol

RK is in BG not JQ. Yes there are other smaller forces like SF on JQ that run some stuff during EU, but they tend not to have more then 5-10 and ohter then that there might be a few here and there, but nothing massive.

It is not until at the end of the night the NA guilds start arriving that we see JQ forces out in force. Now for BG’s SEA the issue is life.
They can not push them self to my hour every day and RK can not stay active for longer then we do. We are a limited guild with limited number.

Yes sometimes we have help, but when we come on BG we are the only force with numbers. Yes there are others, but they do not have the numbers we do and IRON still outnumber us with 10-20 people.

Masori.3528:

showatt.9413:

Masori.3528:

Man refreshing the topic and went back a page. Moderators are busy bees again.

Anyways you should know that wrex was doing this for the laugh and trying to get some fights. Instead of the cat and mouse games.

And he chose a really poor way to do it.

You know, I have always hated JQQ. I think they’re the biggest bunch of whiners around and i love seeing them lose but the rubbish that comes out of your guildies’ mouths are pretty cringeworthy considering you’ve just transferred and already you’re acting like you carry the server while SoR had been competent to begin with.

Winning, losing, it don’t matter. I’ve seen server come and go, from back when Henge was dominating to the rise of JQ to SoS. Look at Kaineng and where they are now. Nobody wins forever. No one lose forever. The only thing that matters is how you present yourselves. Sure, it’s all for giggles. Sure it was just trolling to get the blood pumping. That doesn’t stop you from being a prik though.

There are better ways to go about getting a fight; being a forum warrior isn’t one of them.

We never ever stated we carry SoR. For all i know th reason we have it “so easy” is because SoR’s SEA and Oceanic.

But i was scouting yesterdays JQ zerg in Eb yesterday. They ran with atleast 60 players taking every BG they could consume. We even circles around the BGkeep to catch them. And we were 25 iron with 15-18 allies..
Still they ran towards bravost and stayed in. We started trebbing them. And instead of coming out, they start counter trebbing.

On BG border earlier that evening we had no competition. Thats the only reason we went to EB.
Guesz we’ll get some good fights this weekend.

Ohm you guys brought over a massive army that no one have numbers to compete against. RK is the only active EU wvw guilds on any of the servers that have numbers close to yours and you outnumber us by 10-20 people in most cases.

This information was available to you when you transferred over. When BG goes down a tier or get mixed out there will be no forces left to fight you. We have the latest Asian going into EU. This was all known information.

Lead.1784:

pot.6805:

This is straight up boring. I miss when first and second were only 10k away from each other going into a Tuesday. At least there was some excitement going into the final stretch of the week.

Maybe if BG was actually showing up it would be more interesting. Just throwing it out there. JQ has been around, they are fighting harder than I have seen them fight for a while now! People here are right, you should take a page from SoR, and play no matter what. Then again, this is what happens when you build a server around being in that green spot, can’t say I’m surprised.

As some one who have lead BG EU for long time this is fun.

SoR and fighting no mater what is not a realty man. Yes when you are flushed with wins then you will come out, but when BG played over time where where your SoR then?? Sorry, but with how it is now we are busy trying to keep our own stuff and that takes away any chance of us starting a massive fight.

As a officer you should know better then this and have a understanding of movement and troop deployment. If you are a PvE officer then i understand why you would lack this very basic knowledge pertaining to deployment’s in a zone’s and how fights flow.

sostronk.8167:

aelflune.8590:

Waage.2047:

See you took it personally as an attack on your guild and you so there most be some truth to it. Now i will not make a judgement call on SF and how great of zerg breakers you are after all i have only seen small squads of yours and i will not make a judgment on something that is below full strength.

The simple truth i said. JQ lack guilds willing to take on SoR in there borderland. If you think i am talking about you then YES i am talking about you.

Often enough RK is the only force in SoR and taking them on and we have a blast doing it. See the thing is that we in BG will attack every one. Yes we JQ BL we will target JQ over SoR in the same way you and SoR do in BG BL. That is how the border maps work.

I want JQ to hit SoR border harder so i can use them for my own benefit. Nothing more.

Wait, so JQ is supposed to be working for BG’s benefit? lol!

But I did spend some time at SoR bl yesterday towards the end of and after JQ prime. Every time a tower was hit, a big SoR zerg would come. It was practically impossible to capture even one, but there were still JQ players there trying or, when we were outmanned, flipping camps. But guess what BG guilds were doing? Instead of taking on SoR, [BRO] and [Pro] were trying to spawn camp JQ trying to 6v1 for kicks.

Maybe you should look into procuring these things called mirrors. They’re pretty neat.

I was just in SOR borderlands. We did a breakout with about 15-20 players. BG came along with around a 50 player zerg and defended SOR’s tower and then left. They didn’t try to take the tower. They didn’t let us finish the walls/gates which were at about 20% and then run over us to take it themselves. They just attacked us and wiped the siege and then left. SOR got there towards the end. If we didn’t have BG there defending the SOR tower, we could have flipped it and bought time for BG to try to take the bay or something for themselves. We ended up taking the tower about 5-10 minutes later. That time BG could have used SORs reaction to take something themselves. But thats pretty much how the SOR borderland has been. Everytime we have try something BG will be there and eventually SOR as well. That said, there are alot of bads in this game with not a single tactical braincell. BG are pretty much digging their own hole right now.

Did not see that fight, but chances are it was actually there tower, but you could not see it. I have noticed a BUG in SoR where it will show the wrong color for you. I have had several in my guild report that the tower was green to them even as we where inside after taking it.

Now if it is not that then they did it wrong. Now this is par for the course for every server. We are Trebing SoR BAY we have had JQ coming in and after getting pushed out they built AC’s and Batista’s on Vale hill to take ours out. This was a TIER 3 keep we where trebing and working on taking.

My point is that bad moves happen all the time.

BloodRavenz.6084:

Waage.2047:

BloodRavenz.6084:

Waage.2047:

That is why we in Black Gate are stuck in a bad position.
Right now there are only 2 active Borderlands SoR and BG. So we will be hit by both SoR who now have the strongest EU and JQ who are hungry for scraps.

The thing JQ lacks are guilds willing to duke it out with a SoR zerg and they go for what is easy and SoR have no choice, but to go to BG.

Overall it is a small mater. If i am i am no longer sick in a few hours then i will come on and go after SoR like i always do. After all there is no fun in fighting some one who do not have more numbers.

Who exactly are you trying to kid

JQ does not avoid fights with SoR. Reset night for example SF and friends took Their home map hoping Their N/A best was there. We cheered when we found TW in hills. We knew it was on…and some great fights were to be had for the rest of the night.

What happened? While I was working on inner hills about 10 minutes after reset, Blackgate ended up ignoring everything SoR…and coming into the hole i made in hills…and attacked JQ

Then kept attacking us for the next 2 hours while doing their best to ignore or avoid fights with SoR. In fact each time i figure i’ve given Blackgate enough of a beating and i switch to attacking SoR..you guys come right back for more and hit JQ

So forgive me when i laugh at you here for even making this post. And forgive me for making a point in flipping Blackgate’s garrison 3 times so far this week and everything else i see of yours paper because of your laughable tactics on reset night

Did i hit a nerve or something. I don’t do or care about reset. It is at 2 a clock at night for me and if i am op that late i better be nekkid or drunk.

Also that was 3 days ago. Now i do not really care who i fight. Hell today i brought a entire BG zerg into JQ keep in EB to wipe SoR for no other reason that it was funny. If i had the supply i might have sieaged and tried to take the keep, but it was more fun to have a bit of a 3 way fight and wipe some SoR.

Now i will always push who ever i think can give me the best fight. Why waste time on a empty keep when i can go knock on BAY and see the SoR zerg come rushing out.

Also your attack on a BG garrison as some kind of insult to me is kind of weak. I mean why would i care and it kind of contradicts your message of “WE FIGHT SOR”.

Like i said JQ lacks guilds who are willing to try and break the SoR zerg. Hell there borderland is empty half the time and ripe for plundering so RK tend to end up there.

Now don’t get me wrong i know why this is. Taking on SoR is hard so you would rather fighting in BG. I get it taking tier 3 is hard.

You didn’t strike a nerve at all unless it’s the one that causes me to laugh at you.
Ask TW, Choo, Tsym, pick one…..SF is more then happy to fight them and have a better record then most at breaking zergs.

But to answer you….we do fight SoR…..we fight Blackgate….Right now, i am stuck having to delete you guys from the map each time i pin up because your commanders are focusing JQ above all else and at the expense of common sense.
It’s either beat you back to your spawn before going and having enjoyable fights with SoR…or end up dealing with you guys hitting JQ the moment SoR and JQ engage in a fight.

See you took it personally as an attack on your guild and you so there most be some truth to it. Now i will not make a judgement call on SF and how great of zerg breakers you are after all i have only seen small squads of yours and i will not make a judgment on something that is below full strength.

The simple truth i said. JQ lack guilds willing to take on SoR in there borderland. If you think i am talking about you then YES i am talking about you.

Often enough RK is the only force in SoR and taking them on and we have a blast doing it. See the thing is that we in BG will attack every one. Yes we JQ BL we will target JQ over SoR in the same way you and SoR do in BG BL. That is how the border maps work.

I want JQ to hit SoR border harder so i can use them for my own benefit. Nothing more.

BloodRavenz.6084:

Waage.2047:

That is why we in Black Gate are stuck in a bad position.
Right now there are only 2 active Borderlands SoR and BG. So we will be hit by both SoR who now have the strongest EU and JQ who are hungry for scraps.

The thing JQ lacks are guilds willing to duke it out with a SoR zerg and they go for what is easy and SoR have no choice, but to go to BG.

Overall it is a small mater. If i am i am no longer sick in a few hours then i will come on and go after SoR like i always do. After all there is no fun in fighting some one who do not have more numbers.

Who exactly are you trying to kid

JQ does not avoid fights with SoR. Reset night for example SF and friends took Their home map hoping Their N/A best was there. We cheered when we found TW in hills. We knew it was on…and some great fights were to be had for the rest of the night.

What happened? While I was working on inner hills about 10 minutes after reset, Blackgate ended up ignoring everything SoR…and coming into the hole i made in hills…and attacked JQ

Then kept attacking us for the next 2 hours while doing their best to ignore or avoid fights with SoR. In fact each time i figure i’ve given Blackgate enough of a beating and i switch to attacking SoR..you guys come right back for more and hit JQ

So forgive me when i laugh at you here for even making this post. And forgive me for making a point in flipping Blackgate’s garrison 3 times so far this week and everything else i see of yours paper because of your laughable tactics on reset night

Did i hit a nerve or something. I don’t do or care about reset. It is at 2 a clock at night for me and if i am op that late i better be nekkid or drunk.

Also that was 3 days ago. Now i do not really care who i fight. Hell today i brought a entire BG zerg into JQ keep in EB to wipe SoR for no other reason that it was funny. If i had the supply i might have sieaged and tried to take the keep, but it was more fun to have a bit of a 3 way fight and wipe some SoR.

Now i will always push who ever i think can give me the best fight. Why waste time on a empty keep when i can go knock on BAY and see the SoR zerg come rushing out.

Also your attack on a BG garrison as some kind of insult to me is kind of weak. I mean why would i care and it kind of contradicts your message of “WE FIGHT SOR”.

Like i said JQ lacks guilds who are willing to try and break the SoR zerg. Hell there borderland is empty half the time and ripe for plundering so RK tend to end up there.

Now don’t get me wrong i know why this is. Taking on SoR is hard so you would rather fighting in BG. I get it taking tier 3 is hard.

Like i have said. Right now i am having some of the best fights ever and i have so many targets to pick from. IT IS GLORIOUS!!. It is also the perfect time for a guild like RK who thrive on this kind of thing.

Aurust.8961:

Waage.2047:

Aurust.8961:

syNc.5840:

I don’t mean to butt in but, where is BG SEA? You guys aren’t yourself atm.

BG SEA used to be heavily supported by MERC as well. Seems like MERC doesnt feel like completely carrying the server as much as they used to.

There is currently a huge BG zerg on EB, im sure all of their current active forces, but that is probably because they only have 2 viable targets to defend atm, and no one wants to go to DC bl to try to cap their hills.

That is why we in Black Gate are stuck in a bad position.
Right now there are only 2 active Borderlands SoR and BG. So we will be hit by both SoR who now have the strongest EU and JQ who are hungry for scraps.

The thing JQ lacks are guilds willing to duke it out with a SoR zerg and they go for what is easy and SoR have no choice, but to go to BG.

Overall it is a small mater. If i am i am no longer sick in a few hours then i will come on and go after SoR like i always do. After all there is no fun in fighting some one who do not have more numbers.

Also a side question for SoR are you actually getting real fights. I MEAN REAL FIGHTS! not getting stuck outside a slow siege, but a moving fight.

Yea, we are getting great fights! So don’t expect us to get bored.

Like what? I am actually interested because it dose not seem like there is real resistance. I mean fights as in driving off 3 times your own numbers, choking a zerg in an ambush and countering a entire zerg with only 15 people.

I know people like me are rare, but i can’t be the only one that hate being the top dog. I mean who cares about wiping smaller guilds and randoms. Taking Keeps or towers with only token Resistance.

NO the fun is when you are out manned and have to fight for every skill.

Aurust.8961:

syNc.5840:

I don’t mean to butt in but, where is BG SEA? You guys aren’t yourself atm.

BG SEA used to be heavily supported by MERC as well. Seems like MERC doesnt feel like completely carrying the server as much as they used to.

There is currently a huge BG zerg on EB, im sure all of their current active forces, but that is probably because they only have 2 viable targets to defend atm, and no one wants to go to DC bl to try to cap their hills.

That is why we in Black Gate are stuck in a bad position.
Right now there are only 2 active Borderlands SoR and BG. So we will be hit by both SoR who now have the strongest EU and JQ who are hungry for scraps.

The thing JQ lacks are guilds willing to duke it out with a SoR zerg and they go for what is easy and SoR have no choice, but to go to BG.

Overall it is a small mater. If i am i am no longer sick in a few hours then i will come on and go after SoR like i always do. After all there is no fun in fighting some one who do not have more numbers.

Also a side question for SoR are you actually getting real fights. I MEAN REAL FIGHTS! not getting stuck outside a slow siege, but a moving fight.

Sightblinder.4273:

Renny.6571:

Update. I’m assuming the lack of red on green bl and vice versa is because blue bl is shaped in a way that they’re naturally 2v1’d or some kitten.

Oh look, BG garrison is green again.

So? I am cooking spare ribs right now with no care in the world.

Neuromancer.2148:

Aurust.8961:

Neuromancer.2148:

Well, the truth is for every guild we received, it seems two go on hiatus or quit the game entirely. Or a commander needs to focus on real world responsibilities. This has nothing to do with how great or poor a community we have. People have lives outside of a game (even if it is just other games) and will move on sooner or later. WvW is a game of ebb and flow, and the long-standing members of BG know and understand that. We’ve dropped out of T1 the most out of any server, but never crumbled. Guilds in the past have used the server to railroad on their way the top, but that is more an indictment on those guilds rather than the core of the server. Blackgate has paid its dues and no troll talk can ever take that away from us.

Keep in mind that an infusion of fresh blood is healthy – even our own bodies need to produce new cells in order to maintain peak condition. SoR is enjoying this new vigor, and I’m happy for them as they have worked hard to stay afloat in the top tier. But SoR’s achievement of more efficient type of coverage, continuous and uninterrupted, will eventually be met by the other T1 servers. It’s just a matter of time. Remember, this is a game of ebb and flow. Don’t fall into the trap of taking yourself too seriously just because you’re on top for the moment. Many servers have been there before, and many servers will come after..

I beg to differ, a truly strong community, and one that produces a fun environment to play in will greatly reduce the attrition. Thats why guilds on SOR actually grow instead of die out.

You’re right. Next time, I’ll tell my guild that if a member chooses to take care of his sick family member over playing GW2 with us that we’re to blame because we didn’t make the game fun enough for him.

Seriously, just re-read what I previously posted. The reasons may not always be as drastic or dramatic, but you’re arguing for the permanence and consistency of a virtual server on a game just almost a year old should overcome real life situations.

Enjoy your stint at the top, or wherever you are really. Just don’t presume to think you have it all together and figured out the winning formula was because of how amazing you are, and everyone else who isn’t on top right now is falling short of these imaginary standards you’re setting.

He is right we should all stop living our life for the server. I am going back to school soon and it might limit my time.

The only reason i am going back to school is because of how rude and horrible every one on BG is, not because i manged to study enough to pass a entrance exam so i could get in.

Or i guess now that IRON is the big powerfull guild on SoR the member from Choo want’s some attention by being a troll.

This is awesome.

Today RK with the help of EK tore through the SoR zerg in SoR borderland. About 15 in all with a few militia going with us.

IN the end we where outnumbered 3-1 in most fights and still manged to murder and even win a ton of fights. Seeing a entire SoR zerg staying in there keep in fear of 20 people when they have double that supported by arrowcarts is priceless.

Ascii.9726:

VOLKON.1290

Show me one week, any week at all, that didn’t have opportunistic 2 vs 1 play.

Yea but I’m predicting a lot more outside the normal considering the circumstances of next weeks matchup. (DB scratching at the door, BG dropping to the blue spot, JQ not losing by a lot this week and SoR wanting to hold onto its record of only ever dropping a rank position twice out of 33 match-ups).

Score update.

Yeah us in BG will be hit hard. We are the only ones with some EU presences so both you guys and IRON will be going after us. So we can not reinforce our borderland going into NA.

JQ and SoR have more east coast NA then us and there for depending on SoR’s EU attacks and how tightly we can hold our own our border will most likely be the soft border so we will be stuck in a 2v1 after all we are the more vulnerable server.

That is my prediction. Now before the blowhard come in to pick a fight about 2v1. This is what i would take advantage off and i know how both JQ and SoR works as servers.

Malferian.7205:

I love how RK is being such a good sport! kudos to you guys.

Well i like fighting you guys. I wish i had more time to devout to countering you guys so i could figure out your weak sides and break you, but we are a bit understaffed in EU so we are stuck in fights to often to kick you out of our keeps.

Let’s hope that we can get some good fights in so the move was not in vain.

Ljiona.9142:

What I have seen from IRON, they are able to cover 2-3 maps with 20-25 people. I played at lunch the other day in JQ BL. We had out-maned buff. As soon as our keep got hit from a large force of 25+, IRON ported in and defended. The enemy was wiped, they ported to another map and we had out-manned buff again. They really don’t have that many. They are super organized and have fast reaction time. I think the other servers just need to adapt to their play style. Defend what you have and take stuff in other maps that is not defended.

The old days of taking everything on a map then moving to another map isn’t going to work with IRON.

Are you even in IRON? Or even a major commander during the EU time slot?? And do you not know about the other guilds that are active during EU prime.

Zaeon.3846:

Lol. I can’t stop laughing. The most I’ve seen IRON fielded was 20-25 member per map and yet you read about all these QQ’s and panic and ‘omg their eu coverage is now superstacked’. This is just priceless. BG got thousands of new transfer several weeks ago. Now SoR got no more than 70 IRON’s and bam! the paranoia and panic ensues.

Just have fun and play for the moment.

Zero drama forever

Yes and RK has 15-20 members on one map during EU and we are the only active EU guild on BG that can do things alone on a larger scale. IRON have +30 main roam force with 5-10 members they leave as a defense and scout force.

Then where is TW 15-25 man force that is also active during a lot of EU prime.

There is also a handful of other SoR guilds, but IRON and TW are the big bad during EU prime. They are great fun to fight and i take great pleasure in being the underdog in EU.

I like that there is a ton of no name forum warriors out and about for SoR.

Now the first things first the rumor that BG is not playing and will not be on is silly. I am the main RK wvw commander i lead the last 2 days (not today) and for those who don’t know RK is the only large force EU guild on BG and Iron outnumbers us 3-1 in battle most days at the moment. We will fight no mater what honestly after IRON came over our activity have increased. They are a good fight.

Not only that i was personally in contact an IRON representatives who even ran with RK during the last week. I advised them not to come to BG because it would unbalance things and i suggested tier 2 server. Now to get all of BG to merge with TC.

Now i fell bad for IRON at the moment because i can not provided to resistance they where hoping for from us in RK. We both know why that is and it is to bad because i fell we in RK got the best thing out of this deal. I get people to fight and yesterday alone i had one of the best days in WW in months all thanks to Iron and TW.

RiWiJo.7502:

I have played WvW every day since the Arrow Cart buff. I have been involved in many sieges of towers and keeps, offensively and defensively. I have rarely been killed solely by an arrow cart. I see the ring on the ground I move, dodge, back up, step out, roll out, shift right or left—get it. When I die it is usually because enemy players have also jumped me.

Seriously siege in this game is ridiculously underpowered. I mean a treb or cat can hit me directly and I get damage and knock back—it should kill me instantly. I can get a ballista bolt in the chest and shake it off and keep moving—what is wrong with that.

Defensive walls and towers are suposed to give the defender an advantage.

Before the Arrow Cart Buff:

Defending walls against zergs was impossible because of the AOE thrown up on them from zergs shooting up from the wall base. Arrow carts, the only siege defense for this zerg AOE stratagem, were useless. People would just stand in the ring and fire 2 to 5 AOEs and then move back out of range a little. I guess this was great fun for a zerg steam rolling towers, but other than that it wasn’t very realistic and zergs were ruining the game.

After the Arrow Cart Buff:

Now there is serious damage around defensive walls. An elementalist can’t just run up to the wall and unload his AOEs. Zergs can’t just mill around the gate or walls pulling people off the walls, knocking them off the walls, and making the defensive walls an impossible place to survive. Rather than backing up a few feet, dancing in and out of arrow cart range to unload AOEs, attackers have to move further away to get out of Arrow Cart range, exposing them to other siege. They have to reorganize and plan anew.

Yep the arrow cart has made this a much better game except for those who just love the mindless zerg.

I do wvw as a organized guild on a tier 1 server. From large to small scale.

I hate arrow carts. Right now they can more or less shut down any assault on a tower that is not based on Trebs. With the 5 points in AC they now have close to the range of Catapults, but far more deadly and useful.

Rams are useless at the moment because they die to fast to AC’s and even with the new change they might not die to AC’s any more, but no one can take the Damage 4-8 AC’s throw out at you at a place like hills. AC’s where always strong and usefull and maybe a bit UP, but right now they are the most deadly thing in the game and so useful they make every thing else then trebs worthless.

Doomdesire.9365:

Mmmm I love it when EU takes us into NA

:P

Side note: If anyone is interested in a 1v1 whisper me

Well you have the biggest EU for now and maybe you might even take first, but i can’t say that i care. Win or loss i could not care.

IRON ran with RK a few nights to see what went on. I wanted them to go to TC so they could help bring them over here.

Orion.9075:

DKNS.2135:

Orion.9075:

DKNS.2135:

fade.8603:

Scores are very close with few more days to go, keep fighting all 3 servers!

Well JQ can maybe come out and try to put up a fight atleast (if they get their energy back after the weekend overtime); SoR: not really.

Just sucks that our NA is so strong, but them other servers (cough BG cough) have to buy guilds to stay competitive. In actuality, if we had any EU/SEA presence (compared to JQ/BG) this whole thing would be a different story.

uhmm https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/69025/full.jpg

You know i can go and say a kitten tons of things to this comment but i am gonna stop before i get another match thread locked

And i have NEVER liked SoR, but good job for still putting up a fight. Hold on and you will eventually start getting guilds and then we will have a perfect NA T1, but a part of me also wishes that you get kicked out and we get DB instead because of all your kitten Forum warriors. Anyways, we will see what happens.

Honestly, I’m pretty sure we’d prefer to be the underdog and if guilds want to transfer to us, that’s great. Our NA is usually top PPT every time. It’s the lack of Oceanic/EU players that keeps us 2nd or 3rd. BG got a little advantage from buying a few guilds, but still that only works for their EU/Oceanic timezone, cuz they just get wiped over and over during NA.

You actually do have players on and you have more players online then we had not long ago even during EU, but the problem is that you do not hold land.

I used to come online as one of the few EU commanders during the massive JQ push against us. We manged to take back our borderland every night even with massive attacks from JQ and SoR.

That was with 20-30 people at the most. Sometimes we where lucky and we had a guild help us, but most of the time we where on our own. You have numbers and guilds, but they tend to not take land or dig in around it.

Only a wvw player knows the pain of having 5 supply to little

Splits do work, but they can only be done with either a large organized wvw guild or 2 guilds working together.

I have done it a lot with different guilds on BG, but yeah spiting dose not work if you are running a 20 man guild vs a 30 man zerg. Every tactic have it’s uses in different fight.

Well i got to lead in BG borderland tonight for some 4 hours. It was fun holding our land.

Liquid.9672:

magikfox.9658:

Cuddlestrike is BG’s one redeeming quality.

What? BG can also make a mean clam chowder. I’m talking sourdough bread bowls and everything. So that’s two. Don’t sell us short bro!

And we have the greatest commander of all the servers. Waage the GREAT.

If i lead a BL i have to take you out.

I don’t mind dueling, but a single talented person can take out a camp or a dolly. I can not take that chance if you are in a area i need my supply to pass through.