Guild Wars 2

Scores say nothing.. If people get scores for things as solo destroying the doors in Foefire thus making sure theyll pull at leasst 2 people of points to make sure the sologuy doesn kill the lord. Allowing his team to 3 cap eveytime he charges back to the enemy lord.

Once you get points for that kinda stuff like lettig people chase you to keep them away from points…. Only then points say something

Well… Ive seen some great masterfull necromancers with strong builds in tpvp. Gusy stacking more condition dmg then i could ever dream to cleanse.. And i have an full cleansing engin, minionmasters which did vey nice dmg and he managed to down 2 people while being attacked by 3 and actually managed to get away (i was standing on a ledge on that pvpmap… I love letting people 1v1 even though i usually get cursed at for not helping them if my teammate dies)

Necromancer however is hard to build and almost harder to play. Yust like ele’s kinda stuck in an “use this hard to use build to be on par with avarage people with other proffs or you are doomed!”.

At least my personal list of the proffs from the view of an condit engin:
1. Mesmer
2. Thief
3. Condition engineer
4. Bomb/grenade/kitusing engineer
5. All others

Problem with thiefs isnt dmg or anything.. But the fact that they always attack when ur defensive skill is on cooldown XD
Mesmers.. Well obvious, as cond single target dmg i cant kill the clones etc fast enough to be able to succesfully keep hitting the mesmer.. But ey, thats the sacrifise i had to make to defeat all other proffs

Thief.. Meh, not OP.. Guardian.. Meh,not OP

Mesmer.. Well urgg problem is i have an single target condition build so Mesmers are my counterproff… For me they are really really strong.. BUT if i were to make an build more focussed on direct dmg and some areadmg i think people will be able to counter Mesmers
Een though i have to admit Mesmers will always be hard to beat if it stays like this.

Mesmer.. Well urgg problem is i have an single target condition build so Mesmers are my counterproff… For me they are really really strong.. BUT if i were to make an build more focussed on direct dmg and some areadmg i think people will be able to counter Mesmers
Een though i have to admit Mesmers will always be hard to beat if it stays like this.No matter how good people think they already are, i think everyone is still learnig and adjusting. Sure Arenanet can start making small changes, but the big ones will have to wait till everything found its place.

Cloth isnt the only one affectee. I wear medium gear but at longer cloaklike chests my legs keep clipping my gear… Also my pistols are going through both my gear as well as my leg (norns are so tough.. They use their own legs as pistol holsters -_- )

Same as above XD

1) Are the plethora of weapon kits and F-skills overwhelming or do they become 2nd nature just like the weapon/utility skills of a more “normal” class?

If you like them.. they do get used and ull be switching kits/weapon as automatism quick. yust like elementalists elements
If you dont like them.. dont use them, youll still be viable :P and none of the fun is lost

2) It’s sure fun, but is it viable to quest/level and PvP and dungeon? Some kits seem very gimicky and 1-note (like mines…will I even use em?)

PvP its certainly viable. Takes slightly more skill then other proffesions, but can be devastating. I love my engineer in pvp :P (even though i use P/P and no kits)

PvE .. well, grenadekit is really in right now , mostly because mobs dont evade it thus dealing strong dmg cause all grenades hit. the damage of engineers might not be the highest ever, but apart from dmg, they can perform different roles at the same time.
If you want high singletarget dmg, yust take turrets and try using a rifle.
You want to be support, elixergun and elixer build.
High areadamage for groups of mobs? try grenade and bombkit.
You prefer applying great amounts of condition dmg and making sure your friends (or yourself) hit more or survive better? Take up some pistols, maybe a shield for defending friendly units from projectiles. Trow some elixers in for fun.. everyone likes getting glass trown against their head for boons :P

(Mines are not rlly that well atm.. they kinda lost their uses and mostly replaced with other utilities ;p )

Yust want to say… atm your performance really depends ALOT on your build. Unlike other classes who always have 1 mainrole and even though they can fill in other roles to, they are not as good as their mainrole … Engineers can adjust to every single role and stil be viable. .. everything is their mainrole
Ive seen Engineers tank dmg like rocks using shield, defensive skills and some helpfull turrets. I have seen Engineers apply nice conditions while still being able to dodge more then a rolling rock. I have seen Engineers burst more then a warrior ever could (and a warrior can be evaded.. ranged cant be evaded alot). I have seen Engineers with elixer guns and antiranged shields saving people in wvw who lay on the brick of doom.

Even though i gave quite a big PvE explaination.. i kinda do 90% pvp :P
But cant say alot about that except for that Engineers can be beast

I am not saying they are the best class, far from.. with some bugs we have, gimicky mechanics and not balanced damage between kits, underpowered pistols and rifle. But if i said they were weak or useless …. i would lie.. badly :P

Heard some people saying it is bugged, but can never be sure. Pick up a rifle, stand on 1200 range (border between out of range and hit with rifle).. then do some steps backwards and place down a rocketturret.. then see if he can hit.

Now we yust need to apply that crosshair mod.. and voila, a shooter in a nuttshell XD

1. Fix the elixer cooldown reduction to also work on toss elixers.

2. Maybe some turrets need a bit more armor or faster attack-rate (slight loss of dmg per hit ofc.) … and mortar might need to have another look

thats about it, if that happens im quite happy

How can you QQ about warrior builds? nothing wrong with warrior.. even kinda weak in my eyes tbh..

Guess they thought pistols already did soooo muchh damage that they nerfed it..

/puts the sarcasm switch to off

Till now i have never NOT gotten a chest.. either im lucky or you guys are kittened

Passive increased boon duration doesn’t work with Elixir U, Elixir S and traits Invigorating Speed and Infused Precision. (unconfirmed)

Confirm, tested it out on multiple occasions but doesnt seem to work

Fast-Acting Elixirs doesn’t work with Elixir S (tooltip changed but CD stays at 60) or any tool belt elixir toss and Elixir Gun’s Acid Bomb and Super Elixir even though they are listed as elixirs.

OMG the fact that the reduced cooldown doesnt work on the elixer tosses annoys the hell out of me… something that should be looked at very soon if they want to save engineers

Cleaning Formula 409 effect occurs before Elixir C giving less boons than intended. (unconfirmed)

Confirm, at least… my test showed this.. 1 had 4 conditions, all lasting 10+ seconds (so that i wouldnt lose any due to duration) … i used elixer C… and it gave me 3 boons… thus.. 1 was missing and due to the fact i had cleaning formula 409… you can guess what i noticed at closer study

Automated Response doesn’t make you immune to already applied conditions. (unconfirmed)

*Depends, but mostly true…it has a tendency to remove 1-2 conditions, but leave everything else doing dmg.

Points dont matter anyway.. for example a guy at Foefire which breaks down the enemy gates and keeps attacking the Enemy Lord, which makes sure theyll have to go either defensive mode and leave their points alone… or keep trying to get points, but lose their lord to 1 guy.
That guy has like 0 points at the end of the match, but he was the one who made the team win :P

THIS POST IS AIMED AT PEOPLE MAKING RAGE COMPLAINS WITHOUT NUMBERS,FACTS OR LOGIC

Ok lately ive been hearing to much people whine about spvp. Its quite annoying since .. Yes engineer has some bugs, but if you leave the bugged things (and there are not as much, neither as bad as people suggest) engineer is quite both versatile as well as very strong in spvp.
With an pistol they can survive like no other class, apply more conditions every autoattack, boon themselfs up till no boon will fit. Then they wear rifles, immobilise almost always, a blunderbuss that hits for thousands, trowing explosives wherever they want.
Pistols could use some tweaks, elixers might need some rng changes, Turrets need to be better…. Sure sure, all that and more. And yes, i agree with all these things BUT the proportion some of you blow the problems with these things up is enormous.
People complaining while they yust blindly trow grenades and chase people wih bombs and wonder why they dont do dmg even though they see people dont fall for that stuff anymore and even more people running around with copied builds, thinking they are good if they copy the build of a strong engineer..
Well, i can tell the trolls and whiners.. I run dualpistol in spvp and it works like the best, i run turretbuild in wvw and we have conquered.
So if you want to keep whining about how you think it should be balanced… You dont want it to be balanced. You want it to be unbalanced, but with you at the positive side.
Most of these whineposts are yust an plain insult to arenanet, an insult unjustified and unearned.
So next time some1 posts something in rage and doesnt think he need any numbers or facts..because you died to much or anything. Will playing an OP class really help you get better, or will you yust fall back to nothing after the next nerf. Maybe becoming an immortal gamemaster would be the only thing preventing you from failing.

I say… Salute to you Arenanet, take all the time you need and dont let anyone rush you. I trust you in balancing out the game better hen most of these posts.
(explains why these guys aint gamedevelopers paid to do that stuff)

Usually i always make reasonable posts with facts and yust plain summaries etc. But some posts really are an insult to Arenanet. They made a beautifull game withot any subscribe fees and not to forget that the game only has been out for a freaking month.
But apparently its not going fast enough for some people even though if they made big chances now based on mostly opinions and proof of non-experience of the new mechanics of this game… THEN the game would be unbalanced.

Im not sorry if i insulted anyone because if people read the first sentence they know i didnt mean them. So if they are insulted.. Well… speaks for itself.

Stop trolling, if you think.. (the thing that can happen in your brain) .. you would know they cant make big changes yet. Because the game is still quite new and the population very new to the mechanics, tactics, skills and much more. They cant really tell if problems are caused by the community or by the game itself… yet.

I wonder why noone takes Cleaning Formula 409… in my opinion thats more of a musthave then the 7% more dmg you get when youve stacked alot of might with HGH

You really should make a build that fits you, not a build that has proven to fit some1 else.
At least, here is mine:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fcMQJAqalspSXX8SfF17IBoH6t+8V0jHnfK/pAbB;ToAAzCqogx4jwHbROYkFNqYGA

This is my Pistol/Pistol Tournament build. Its focussed on 2 things: Conditions… and boons.
The goals of this build are best described by: Distract till they die.
The tactics are quite easy, i use explosive shot to apply bleeds and burning, once they burn i lenghten the burning dmg using blowtorch. Meanwhile i have permanent swiftness and vigor thanks to my traits, also i try to keep up all other boons as much as i can. The vigor is important for the other thing i do ALOT … dodging.
Learning when and how to dodge is important and it can hold alot of power. All i do is apply alot of conditions. Poison, burning and i can keep up about 10 stacks of bleeds for as long as i want… that combined with the fact that i keep dodging enemies attacks makes this build quite versatile. Also when the enemy goes to 50% health i apply poison, to make sure his healing wont have that much effect.
Though Mesmers are my counterproffesion, all others till now have been quite nicely beaten. Especially things like Warriors and Guardians tend to not even hit me. (Only thing they trow at me are insults about how engineers are apparently OP because the warrior keeps using his charge and stuns while i dodge). Also i have quite a bit of condition removal.
In tournaments so far this build has proven to me to be VERY well working

Sure Arenanet, we dont have damage, so please keep nerfing the only defensive spells we have….

I really dont get how he does this.. Even my elementalist with even less toughness then him only get like an 11k crit… Its as if his character is made to die

2 dodges is already 2 second

Meh engis, necros and guardians can devastating if played well… Eles can do very nice dmg.. But well… Harder..

He was yust saying he sees alot of mesmers and thieves and he doesnt like how they all kill him.

At least, thats what i read

i have to agree at things like Thief, quickness is very strong BUT you guys go generalise it. Engineer with quickness? Totally not op. Warrior with quickness? Easily avoid. Ranger with quickness? Pop 1 defensive cooldown instead if having a full glass cannon build yourself.

And dont go tell me this is one of the “yust dodge” posts cause 99% of people is NOT using dodge etc. Efficient and good timed.

Meh, people complaining about racial elites strenght.. its an RACIAL skill… or as arenanet has always said it.. its mostly cosmetic and cool looking… its not supposed to be better then the professions elite skill

even though engineers elite skills suck so much that snow leopard actually is an improvement :S

<- all my characters are Norn and all of them are max height

They don’t get the chance. Having a thief as my main, I can easily say that 3 seconds of stealth is barely enough to run to your opponent most of the time, much less – properly flank.
Shadow refuge gives 6 seconds of stealth, but ends as soon as you leave the small stealth-bubble it makes and before you make comments about popping stealth and then shadow refuge on your enemy – you can’t. You get a condition that’s basically stealth withdrawal – you can’t re-enter stealth for a few seconds after exiting it, eliminating the ability to chain-stealth.

your not specced for long duration stealth

I worship my P/P in spvp (well… tpvp actually) atm i have an condition build without any kits thus relying on my pistols to do the dmg. Im totally focussed on precision and conditiondmg.. next to that i have an nice avarage 2500 armor. But to make sure i survive while they die quite quickly thanks to my conditions i also specced in something else.. dodging :P dodging is a masterfull mechanic… combine p/p which is an medium/close range combination with a unlimited supply of swiftness and vigor and you can keep running and dodging around melee-professions as if it was a roundabout :P
Also nice to keep up with rangers and magic professions who try to keep distance.

*Grenades hit 3 times, keep in mind. *

Sure… IF they hit… but in pvp only idiots stand in areas and stand still while being attacked nowadays..

still grenades truly are better choice then pistol atm yeah :S

tbh i think the engineer utility skills are to… limited to a certain goal… this teleport would be awesome.. 60 seconds is perfect for an 1000 range teleport since its only an utility so it doesnt need to be as good as the mesmer blink or anything.

/signed

having to get all the costly dyes on every single character makes me not even want to make an alt

turrets are nice dmg, but mostly they die in 2-3 hits max :S 1 area and.. cya

combination of both grenades being quite strong ( IF they hit) and pistols kinda weaker then supposed to… combine those 2 things and sadly the difference is quite a bit

Guy probably has armor equal to wearing a towel

If you have quit gw2 Mage, what are you still doing here?

All professions should be able to counter all professions? Ok thats the OPPOSITE of what pvp in gw2 should look like…

Well imo there are 2 sorts of posts.
1 kind hold valid checked arguments, numbers and certified comparisons.
The other one, the most common, holds alot of 1-liners.. Mostly including the classical “They do so much more danage then me, nerf them” and the good old-timer “if i cant do that kinda stuff, why can they?” and last but not least, the always favorite “i will leave this game if you dont change this”.

Hope you guys can see which i would prefer to see read by Arenanet.. And which ones not.

Compensate you for what? Its not like they have a record of who won what tournament and if they gotten their chest.. And if you tell everyone they can get compensated, how much people would lie and try to decieve arenanet into giving them compensation for something they probably didnt do.
Tournament chests dont hold fun stuff anyway.. Since dolyak rank i havent seen 1 item i havent salvaged yet.

At 1 hand the Thief did 15k dmg with only pistolwhip on me within the duration of haste (i have 2600 armor) BUT at the other hand.. Evade/break stun/immune yourself and the thief will have used up all his initiative and cooldowns, decreasing his dmg reallyyy badly. Thus rendering him useless.. Now yust make sure he doesnt run and voila

The system is really weird.. instead of putting people into servers with 12-15 people in them. noooo you go into an empty server :P

Mesmers will always be bad if they don’t have their phantasms. Just remember that.
Sadly they spawn them faster then you can say mesmer :P

Slithan.4380:

I’m a thief. I run sword/pistol. I hit 2(inf strike), haste, then just spam 3(pistol whip) until they’re dead, popping steal and/or signets as they are off CD for the might/fury buffs and extra initiative.

Totally balanced.

Haha, Looking at that post you are clearly underpowered sarcasm while smiling

Random effects should be limited to maximal 2 different effects… having a elixer with 4 boons you can get kinda ruins any pre-made tactics because it mostly depends on luck. It can hurt the Engineer quite a bit if he gets the wrong boon.
Or like other people said before me… make the effect of an elixer depending on the amount of health you have

for example:
elixer H:
Heal yourself and get a boon depending on the amount of health left
Health above 66% gains Swiftness
Health above 33% gets Protection
Health below 33% gets Regeneration

Ey, he used quickness! /use Elixer S .. so, thats that..

and other professions have comparable skills… or yust dodge 2 times, that saves alot of dmg to

I do have to say.. they have turrets and all that kinda stuff.. and it has been some years since gw1 .. so in fact i assume an old fashion sniper would be a hel lotta fun. Even though i find it hard to believe arenanet will implement this, i do truly wish they did

You use Rocketboots to escape, enemy charges you whie you are lying to the ground (or the same target attacks you because he had protection) .. and your even more kittened

Signed for the dual pistol..

object against: The thing is, grenades are already TAoE underwater and they work great.
They work great yeah, by which is mean fapping way to strong….. areatarget is the only from that keeps grenades from being overpowered on land

I dont like the idea of the summoner.. what i do like is the idea of the Ritualist, with chained spirits and arcane magic, it was quite awesome :P

I know what you think. " dont we already have enough topics about this" .. Yes, but this wont be another single sentence shout.
I have been reading all the threads about dyes in spvp.. I yust want to make this suggestion and what i will do is combine all opinions and replies and try to find a system which works perfect for any opinion, so that we all get what we want (if arenanet even reads these threads XD.. Nah yust joking, arenanet is awesome and i still trust them unconditionally, no need to worry about gw2)

Well the conclusion of all the threads, the possible solution.

- when joining spvp you get a cloak.. This cloak is colored either red or blue (depending on team)…(also something awesome that could be combined with that… A guild upgrade which allows people to have their guildsymbol on that cloak.. Wouldnt that be kitten awesome.. Btw.. I really wrote kitten, no cursewords)

- in the option menu there is an option called “pvp auto-dye”. If you enable it, your gear will be dyed blue or red depending on team. If disabled you will have your own dyes displayed.

(possible extra addition – red/blue healthbar after targeting someone depending on team)

Why remove dyes acually?

The gw2 cosmetic system is great.. The amount of dyes is awesome, the whole concept around spvp is to get famous, but also the best looking gear. Atm you can have the coolest gear ever but when dyed red or blue, you will still look like a grunt and sometimes even ugly. All these cosmetic options (you even get dyes in pvp chests) and you can use none of it.

But wont you get confused or might your skills in pvp decrease because of the lack of difference?
No.. Ive done many many matches now and so have the people from the other threads and in pvp you never distinguish people thanks to the color of their main armor. Ive actually done this quite fun thing.. Ive set the screen of my laptop to white/black and did pvp.. Surprisingly, pvp was cooler. Even though the colors looked the same, it didnt matter the slightest at identifying people.. Also using other colors if dye (or in my case an black/white scenario) makes the armor stand out more and differences between peoples armor are more obvious which actually makes it easier to see fast what your fighting against.
Enough games have all colors allowed and have no trouble with that in pvp.. Especially arenanet knows that already, looking at GW1.

Well, here you guys have it.. My opinion combined with all opinions i could find.
Now all i can do i hope for Arenanet to read this.
/sign if you like and if you dont.. You did better have some good arguments ready

- Timeraider, PvPer, mediadesigner and Non-raging, non-nonsense Arenanet fanboy