Elementalist is strongest profession in the game, it has the best tools to counter a Mesmer and has a decent chance vs everyone else. I have only seen 1 pro Elementalist in sPvP who survived and kited myself and 2 other people for a good 20-30 sec, doubt any of us would take him in a 1v1 and I take 99% of the people I fight in a 1v1.
Was it a max-size Norn wearing a dry bone set and a flame staff? XD
Yust joking, That description would fit 30% of the elementalists
They are not really underpowered.. What they are though is being guided to 3-4 strong viable builds and rule out being viable without an variation on them (without having to work reaaaalllyyy hard on it). But surely they are not UP (i would like to seee some bug fixes, but which class doesnt )
Meh, make an condition build engineer.. The guardian and ele wont smile that much anymore…
But this is ofcourse no discussion thread, yust want to say i really like this post and think its the best attitude developers could have. Even though there are slightly more bugs then i hoped (they seem not that hard to fix, but i know how bad it can become ), i still think arenanet is following the right path… And even though they listen to the players yust like all other MMOs.. At the same time they also store and ignore it. And im NOT saying thats bad.. No its the opposite. At the start of an online game it is best to not be carried away by player reports because with a new game these usually are based on opinion, inexperience etc. And dont forget that 1 change to 1 proffesion can change the balance of all others. Therefor i am quite happy arenanet is carefull and thinks before pushing changes into the game.
Well ok, it can be used as burst but let me say it like this
Even if you had 40k health and permanent regen… You would still be squishy.
The lack of toughness is enormous and causes people to do massive dmg against you.. (1200 toughness (preferably a bit more ofc is kinda the minimal if you intend to get hit more then once (unless you like glass cannon ofc. Nothing wrong with that))
So, yes it may work awesome for you, yes you may be an great killer with it… But still, its a glass cannon
Experience from the other side.. I was testing out some weird builds i thought off… I clearly didnt work because a hunter managed to down me.. I managed to keep him away with immobilise and used mist form to hide behind a tree. I thought i was safe but after some small healing a mesmer hit me. He did some dmg and started to stomp, right before his stomp ended i used mist form and fled.
The mesmer got immoblised by some1 else .. After lying on a distance i see the mesmer coming out of the CC, so i use my immobilise. Nonetheless he managed to get close to me. He started stomping and while he did that he said something about having me finally in chat.. 0,1 seconds before stomp i managed to pull of an mist form and ran, 2 seconds later i came out of mistform and the match ended while everyone was looking at me
Most fun Foefire ive had in a while
Funny enough… I did fraps it
If interested search youtube for “guild wars 2 beta troll montage bwe3” there should be a video by timeraidergaming .. The first clip is the experience described above
I like pvp.. Atm tournament with guildies > tournament with nice people > hot-join with kind people > hot-join with complaining/raging people > tournament with complaining/raging people
Nonetheless i kinda really enjoy pvp, something i rarely have in games
Thiefs, fast and hardhitting.. Its yust what they are and always will be, no matter how far away trinity is. Yes it may sound strong but other professions also have some quite powerfull utilities specially made for their profession role..
Though i have to admit its weird they put so much boost on 1 spell. I dont mind thiefs having 25% more speed, dmg and speed is all they have.. But it might have been a better choice to for example give standard +10% speed as some passive in the traitline.. And then the signet gets +15%… That way thieves still have their speed but they depend less on that 1 signet, thus meaning they might be more tempted ro try an build without the signet..
You know, explored the unexplored builds
Yeah same thing with for example the +5% critchance sigil… There are ALOT things that change the stats but dont show up in the character screen. The character screen kinda looks only at the stats gained by the traitlines (passive gain per rank), the stats gaines by gear and the stata gaines by boons…. Anything that gives stats apart from that doesnt show up. I dont think its annoying, but it would be easier to test out stuff if it actually changed at all statchanges, no matter where they are coming from.
Ok, i will be going for dungeon/karma to get exotic gear for the stats and will use the gold to make sure i look cool in that gear. Thanks for the advice
I aint level 80 yet, but im gathering gold quite nicely and getting some gifts from other people… but what do people actually recommend me to buy at lvl 80?
I have heard different opinions.. some said to save for legendary, some said to buy Commander title, some said to buy cultural gear since you can buy exotics with karma anyway and some other answers…
so… what do you guys think gold is most usefull for when new at lvl 80?
I can slightly understand the Thief and Mesmer being an pain in the kitten for Ranger… But necro and elementalist? If there are 2 classses which are considered hard to master and play well compared to others, its kinda those 2. (yes i know i play ele, no this comment is not based on me playing ele, yes i am proud to play ele and will be no matter what arenanet does to it)
this Rune should be fixed, neither the healthsteal nor the Mistform works.. 90% of the time the Mistform doesnt proc and the healthsteal appears, but never heals.
tested it out today
The cooldown for mist form with the trait, cantrip mastery, is still 75 seconds. It says 60 seconds in the tool tip, but it still takes 75 seconds to come off cooldown.
Healing Rain only lastst 4,5 seconds while description says 9
The cooldown for mist form with the trait, cantrip mastery, is still 75 seconds. It says 60 seconds in the tool tip, but it still takes 75 seconds to come off cooldown.
Tough to play and learn but so mentally rewarding.. If you are made for elementalist, even losing hard feels fun.
Elementalists .. Well.. Cant say we need some slight tweaks and changes because other classes getting changes and fixes will change things for us to. As it is atm we are kinda hard to play for less rewards then other professions. Nonetheless a very versatile proffesion still capable of dealing devastation in the right hands… Best reason to choose elementalist is if you have fun with it.
But so is every class in my opinion
I played ele from BWE1, due to elementalist not being that well in pvp right after release i went to engineer after release. I have been owning enormous with my engineer.. BUT i barely had real fun during that. Now yesterday i went back to my ele again and thank god i did that. Joined spvp with a very nice homemade staffbuild and after 6 matches (it felt like as if it was only 5 mins) i went to the bank, took all my engineers gold and stuff and now i totally changed back my main to ele
Being challenged by profession mechanics and overcome them.. Good
Being challenged by broken and unbalanced numbers.. Not good
People want to be challenged .. Sure
But i rather be challenged to use all skills and tactical senses i have instead of training an ability in “how to avoid the weak stuff and make your build like 5 million other people because its the only viable one”
Ofcourse i do agree with Arenanet though.. Let the dust settle before we take a look
Uhmm, slightly increase the dmg of the autoattackskills of staffspec and also slightly increase the healing done by geyser.
Im not 100% sure what to do about daggers/scepters… they need to be able to still do nice amounts of dmg, while not having to go 100% glass cannon for it.
been playing quite a bit of spvp and tpvp with staff elementalist lately… its combination of alot of power and toughness… its masterfull, healing rain and geyser keeps so much people alive, while meteor shower gets so much people down.
Yes, elementalists are situational and i have to agree they require more skills then other professions atm, but kitten they can be fun to play
Excuse accepted Clover, we pistol-users are very open about our disadvantages.. Even though within the time i do 20k with conditions ive only done like 500 direct dmg which is kinda sad XD (not saying we aint strong though)
True about the short range feel of engineers .. At wvw i hoped rifle would feel sniperlike.. Disappointed now i use turrets (especially rocket) in wvw .. At least those kinda make me feel viable at long range
The supplycrate trait is quite fun IF you have a nice open spot left in your traitline and dont know what to take.. Its like the standard crate + 1 rifle turret and 4 medkit bags
How people think: professions are OP if i need to change my build before i have a chance to beat them…
In my dreams, such people would not exsist but sadly this is earth and we will have to live with this. Every proff has an counter and if youre not willing to change your build to counter it.. Your choice.
Yust remember you can NEVER have a build that counters every single class.. Cause THAT would be OP
It would be indeed good idea to implement an out of combat weaponset switch… We do it anyway so by making us having to go in our inventory and search our weapons only complicated it
altering the tooltip doesnt mean its suddenly usefull…
it needs a small buff (not even that big) but it really needs one. Yust saying they should look at it, since its better to test out changes for more balancing as soon as possible to get everything right quicker..
i hoped they would already have done that in the beta’s, but they were more busy with normal bugs then the pvp balance at that time
Pistol needs a small buff, but i think there are like 30 of these threads… arenanet probably will adress this, since it is an suggestion suggested by everyone, even people who dont play engineer or use different weapons.
Either we’d be forced a longer CD on our shield abilties in my opinion only reason pistol/shield works is because 99% of the time its combined with bombkit or grenade kit… in my honest opinion a p/s not using kits has the same problems as dual pistol
Alot of threads about this, and i really hope they will make it accountbound since i havent seen a single guy who wanted to keep character bound dyes… its not an addition to the game to have to cllect all dyes 5+ times… its a reason to quit the game Arenanet…..
i dont even use kits, why use kits if your main weapon does a better job (except for those noob people trying to trow grenades into groups of people… luckily people in spvp nowadays dont tend to stand in bombs and yust avoid grenades)
I like how people keep yelling we are 100% fine and rifle and grenade kits etc. Can di ebough damage..
BUT think of this… Maybe there are people who dont like rifle or kits, and apparently they are fine to because people keep shouting engineers in general are fine even though atm everyone gets forced into a very small amount of builds because others apparently are not that viable
They need to take a look at Pistols yeah… And u know arenanet doesnt like to make changes untill people learn their classes.. But here you can yust calculate it using facts and numbers that it is kinda failed
As first i thought.. Nice, randomness awesome and refreshing! Now that i have done alo of pvp and especially guild tournaments i dont agree anymore. What gw2 wanted to make is an pvp game which involves teamwork, strategics and timing. Random boons dont fit in this.. No matter how small the difference of a boon might be.. I have experienced that if you dont get the boon you hoped for, it actually kills you. At high skilllevel pvp quite alot depends on small factors. Sadly alchemist Engineers can make tactics or quick moves due to the fact that they dont know how their action will react or what will happen.
I would be happy with a random effet that depends on stuff like targets health, status or any other conditions and i know you Devs really think this makes the class interesting and want to keep his mechanic.
But please, even if you wont change it, do take an objective look at it,
Also.. Start fixing some elixers already.. How hard is it to change the text of Toss Elixer B.. And see what can be done at the trait that is supposed to reduce the cooldown of the toss elixers (those are elixer skills to)
A leaver is complaining about how he cant leave, in my opinion people should not only be put back in the match but also if they try to leave for 3 or more times. When the match ends they get leaverstatus and will be unable to join spvp for the coming 30 mins/1 hour.
Im not sure, turrets already look kinda cool. It could be small changes like at sylvari metal branches around the turretbarrel or at norn it would have a small wolves head as barrel or something like that… Certainly nothing more.. Would be way to weirdlooking and busy then. Would not “fit” in with alot of the other mechanical stuff with is proper and smooth wihout to much decoration.
I dont know.. I would imagine they already saw this before release…Maybe they yust took the same shape as the one at other races and yust adjusted the height of something, not looking at how different an Norns phys. build actually is
