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Well I know, but I’m thinking they just wanted to emphasize on Mordremoth awakening. And what I think is more in line, he was fed enough magic to wake up from slumber but still needs time to gain full power to rise. That sorta thing.

Do we have confirmation that what Scarlet wanted to do was to awaken Mordremoth? Also, do we know if the Ley Line explosion sent magic towards Mordremoth only? What if the explosion also had an effect on the other Elder Dragons? Maybe Scarlet’s plan was to temper with the Ley Lines to empower the rest of the Elder Dragons unknowingly that it would awaken Mordremoth. The way I could see this fitting in is if Mordremoth is the Entity and he was playing Scarlet into thinking that she was doing what she planned (empowering the Elder Dragons) while what she additionally achieved was awakening Mordremoth.

Also Mordremoth has been awoken that much is true but he hasn’t risen yet. Every time an Elder Dragon rose it had massive impact on Tyria and forced races to leave their homelands. This hasn’t happened yet with Mordremoth which makes me hope we’ll be able to see this next season.

Seems like a lot of confusion has been going on with regards to profession mechanics. These are the professions and their mechanics:

Warrior: Adrenaline leading to Burst Skills
Elementalist: Attunements leading to different skills per weapon
Ranger: Pet which leads to another source of damage and skills
Thief: Initiative which leads to skills with no CD, Steal and dual weapon specific skills
Necromacer: Lifeforce and Deathshroud which leads to more skills
Guardian: Virtues
Mesmer: Phanstasms and Illusions and shatter abilities to give different effects
Engineer: Toolbelt and Weapon Kits which lead to new skills (though weapon kits are arguably not a specific mechanic)

Splatter Paw.7238:

And on a side note give withdraw a try, there’s a vigor trait that goes well with it, bind a about face key and it can be a gap closer as well.

As a d/d I find inifiltrstors sig invaluable, for a easy cnd combo and gap closer. When your in a pickle it stun breaks as well if your shadow step is down.

Regarding the about key, I tried that but it doesn’t work while you have your right mouse key pressed down. Any work around that or do you press right mouse button to re-position camera and character—>release right mouse button—>about face key—>use skill—>about face key?

FlamingFoxx.1305:

I also don’t get why Kieran and Logan are in your diagram.
Kieran and Miku never got together, he was in love with and married Gwen.

I think he was trying to draw resemblance between Kieran and Logan as being related to his theory.

Thanks for clarifying it wasn’t official. Was a nice laugh though.

Uruz Six.6594:

Xukavi.4320:

From what I heard was that the Scarlet Briar account was actually backed by a dev (something I heard from forums so take it with a grain of salt). This would sorta lean towards Mordy also being backed by a dev.

So one IC account means all IC accounts are backed by devs? Sweet, I should start a Kralkatorrik IC account of my own and see if Anet will send me a paycheck.

Hey man, I’m just sayin’ could be a possibility. Doesn’t mean its true.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

whyme.3281:

GameMode
Overall, weapon suggestion

Proposal Overview
change Longbow to AoE-control ranged weapon
introduce rifle as ranged single-target weapon
change axe (mainhand) to melee (or <=600 range) condition weapon

Your proposal would give the LB a niche he could fill but I don’t like direction you’re going. The warrior LB is also a AoE-control weapon. Yet I want to use the ranger LB to kill people, not to CC the to death. I don’t want a counterpart to the warrior LB.

Try this:

Longbow skills:

1. Long-Range Shot. Gets increasing damage the further it travels to the target. Starts lower and gets higher than it is currently, so you will want to use it at range and so people will not want to be at maximum range against a ranger.

2. Rapid Fire. Needs to be no longer a net loss of DPS. So make it a stacking ability with 0.5 sec recharge; each hit adds a stack which makes the next shot of Rapid Fire stronger to a value something on par with a full Might stack. Any other skill than Rapid Fire will have the bonus but set Rapid Fire’s cooldown ticking. A shot after Rapid Fire reaches full stack will also reset it. No matter what, if you keep this skill it has to be stronger instead of a net loss of damage vs auto-attack.

3. Hunter’s Shot. Leave it alone for the most part, maybe increase Stealth duration a little and let the pet inflict Vulnerability on its next attack if it hits.

4. Point Blank Shot. Knockback and Interrupt in case of Stability. This doesn’t need changing, really since it’s supposed to help keep an enemy out of your face where LB is weakest.

5. Barrage. If possible, the first hit Immobilizes, then it Cripples. If not, then Immobilize followed by Crippled when Immobilize ends. If that’s not possible, Immobilize 1s per hit and call it a day.

I honestly haven’t posted here yet but I wanted to point some things out:

1- What you’re asking for is basically exactly how the LB works right now but with increased damage unless I’m understanding something wrong.

2- All RF really needs is to have a shorter channel time so that it actually does more damage. I’d honestly rather have it do more damage with the same channel time as I see the Longbow as a long range pressuring and control weapon and not the long range snipe the kitten out of you weapon (though I wish it was).

3- I’d say increase the stealth duration a bit and make it on cast and not on hit.

4- No. Just. No. That suggestion just goes completely against the concept of Stability which in other case would mean you’re breaking the game by giving a skill that would render stability useless

5- The main problem with Barrage is how long it takes to channel it. Lower the channel time and increase the cripple time and it should be good imo.

Ofc all of this is my opinion so feel free to disagree on what I said.

Durzlla.6295:

Xukavi.4320:

Boar pet for the forage skills. Iirc you can get the item (bone i think) that lets you stun (or was it daze) that gets increased duration from MoC.

All 3 of the items get increased by MoC, so you’ve got a boosted AoE fear, a boosted long range daze, and a boosted Melee range (idk if it cleaves) stun.

I know the stun is 6s with MoC, and I think the daze is like 8s and the fear is like 6s (when like right next to someone)

Yea I knew that it was supposed to work on all items but I wasn’t 100% sure so I didn’t wanna be saying wrong stuff.

Uruz Six.6594:

wookalar.8952:

I find 3 things interesting on “Mordy’s” Twitter:

Other than it being an obvious fan parody account?

From what I heard was that the Scarlet Briar account was actually backed by a dev (something I heard from forums so take it with a grain of salt). This would sorta lean towards Mordy also being backed by a dev.

Yes it was confirmed they’re a couple during the Edge of the Mists patch I believe. There’s even a house with both their names on it in Divinity’s Reach

Boar pet for the forage skills. Iirc you can get the item (bone i think) that lets you stun (or was it daze) that gets increased duration from MoC.

Well interesting tweet from Mordy: “I would have been sleeping now if you all didn’t ruin my minion’s plans. You are to blame for what is to come.”

Not that I’d take that as anything towards lore thought…

Don’t forget that we still have one actual final update on the 18th of March that show’s the aftermath of the whole living story. Hopefully we’ll get some of our answers there and possible in game confirmation that it is Mordremoth ( I know it as plain as anything but at least an acknowledgement by some of the main NPCs like Destiny’s Edge or the DE 2.0)

Also, it was stated sometime ago in the game (or outside not sure where) that she gets hiccups when she’s scared. So that has nothing to do with the thorn.

Yea, I just hope they capitalize on this with the next living story update. If we take it as he’s being spoon fed magic then like you said he should grow strong pretty fast which n that case we should witness his rise in the next update or at least hints of his rise in the next update. Also, the whole of Tyria should technically be changed from that explosion of the ley line.

Could Evon have wanted to find a way to bring back the Titans? After watching the whole end of Scarlet, I find it unlikely to be anything other than her whole plan from the start was to awaken Mordy. Which I find quite sad really, though it was obvious, it just felt quite meh. The final cutscene was nice, but not really that great. If we look at the risings of each Dragon it had some permanent effect on the world. So unless they show how Mordy’s rise affects Tyria in the next update, I’ll be quite disappointed.

I just watched the whole fight with Scarlet and the cutscene so yea it does seem she wanted to awaken Mordy.

Thanks for the info Jelle, sadly no backpiece for me so I’ll probably just watch it on youtube or something.

True, that speculation was that Sylvari and Mordy minions and Pale Tree is Mordy’s Champ. But from what I understood so farm from talk about this release is that it’s showing to be partly true. Like you said, the unprotected Sylvari (non-pale tree) are susceptible to corruption. I’m with you on that.

This however leads to another question: Why doesn’t Mordy have a champion? All the dragons we know of have champions that were trying to help it awaken. Primordus had the Great Destroyer and Jormag had Drakkar. Kralky had Glint but she rebelled, nevertheless, she was his champion. Why does Mordy not have a champion that tried help him awaken. This is why I believe a lot of people would think that The Pale Tree is his champion that rebelled. I for one, am not with that theory but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was that cheesy and Anet went with it. Do we know of any other trees having the same sort of Pale Tree but no Dream?

Finally, Anet has seemed to have had this all planned out a long time ago (possibly from the start). Once again, this would point out that unless they had 2 diff stories (which I doubt), the Fall of Abaddon should have had a place in all this somehow. Now I’m not gonna say Abaddon is alive or he’s coming back, but what if Scarlet’s “New Master” was that same thing that “passed through the Mists that only he knows” and it was a way of showing or hinting us towards that?

@Konig: That dialogue is indeed interesting, what if we have it the other way around. She wanted to disrupt the flow of magic, and that caught the attention of the dragon which caused him to start influencing her. What if her plans were to actually disrupt the flow in order to keep the magic from flowing to Mordy. Imo, this would fit nicely with the idea that it was Mordy’s plan and not Scarlet’s. Basically, Mordy used Scarlet tricking her into thinking she’d be denying him his awakening but in reality she was helping him.

Then again, I probably just want a twist to the story since I feel its really bland.

I’m sorry but hasn’t it already been speculated that the sylvari are somehow related to Mordremoth? Wouldn’t this confirm that theory and that the Pale Tree is somehow keeping the corruption away from them. The only twist I see coming out of this is if Mordy is no an Elder Dragon hell bent on consuming everything in front of him and is actually a “good” dragon, which wouldn’t make much sense. This all brings about more questions than answers sadly. I’ll have to wait till I see the cinematic myself before I can theorycraft some more.

Also, is there a way to watch that cinematic in game without having to go through all the events? I heard there was a portal that could take you to the ship and you can see the cutscene.

yea… too good to be true

You know, you actually had my hopes up that this was some kind of leak… QQ

IGN: Elyas Wolfbane
Server: Ruins of Sermia
A little bit of everything

Thought I’d throw this here: https://vine.co/v/MZZ1b1mgw0F

That link was posted on the GW2 Facebook page with the quote “The ground will open. The sky will fall.”

How about a modified version of what the OP is saying. I’m not really one that would support the “she’s a dragon champion” theory. What if she was corrupted by the champion of the elder dragon Mordremoth. She’s trying to find the Elder Dragon’s Champion to help it awaken Mordremoth. It’s still tied to the Mordremoth’s Champion but would make more sense. Something like the Svanir being corrupted at Drakkar lake scenario.

Correct me if I’m wrong wasn’t it stated before GW2 came out that Zhaitan was actually one of the smaller (if not the smallest) of the Elder Dragons? Or were they referring to one of the champion dragons we fight when they said it was actually small compared to the other dragons?

Actually the reason it was ever called Guild Wars in the first place was because the historical event in tyrian history known as the Guild Wars which almost led to the humans driving themselves to extinction.

This interview: http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/11/prepare-to-escape-from-lions-arch-in-guild-wars-2s-next-conten/

They basically stated that all services that were important are being moved to the vigil keep and PS story entrances will be done through a new entrance.

Well, the timeline on wiki states that the living world events started one full in game year after the game had officially started and 2 years now since the in game time started (so 1 in game year after you start your character the living world starts and its been 2 years since you started your journey in game). Unless it took us more than a year of in game time to defeat Zhaitan then the Living Story took place after the Personal Story.

You’re forgetting that all the LS characters will die because it has similar twists to Game of Thrones

Is it possible that the toxin she created is associated with Mordremoth in a way? After all, we knew of Mordremoth from the CoE dungeon and outside of that there’s the green zone which has 2 things associated with it: Jungle plantlife and poison. Also, if Mordremoth was really in the Maguuma Jungle AND he was the reason behind Nightmare (assuming he’s the corruption that would cause the Nightmare) wouldn’t that mean that Malyck’s tree (and anyone in that area) would be corrupted first? We don’t see that at all apparently.

Right, it was the forgotten. Sorry I keep forgetting about them, no pun intended. Anyways I do think that Zhaitan being defeated would release the consumed magic onto the world which would lead to Teq. technically getting stronger.

1- I’m just saying that we can’t use the whole "we haven’t seen Orr fully healed as an argument that Zhaitan wasn’t killed. I wouldn’t mind if they pulled that on us, but i would very much rather have them go to a new dragon/threat.

2- I think the best course of action (if dragons mean balance and the world would end without them) is for them to have us find out someway (maybe the end of S1 Living Story we conclude that leylines are tied to dragons and killing them would destroy balance.

3- http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bloodstone
We found out in the Arah explore-able dungeon that it was the Seers that originally created it.

4- Yes, we agree. Though I remember someone on the lore forums did dig up and find out that Glint was freed by the Seers in a ritual. It’s possible that it was stated in the Edge of Destiny novel.

5- I don’t think that freeing something from the dragon corruption is the same as removing corruption from the dragon. From what I understand, the dragon is the source of corruption so that would need a whole different thing.

6- Was that interview before or after release. Also from what’s said about the bloodstone, the seers created it to seal magic that wasn’t corrupted by the dragons. What I understand from this is that Elder Dragons technically shouldn’t be that balance in the world if they corrupt it.

I have to admit, I read all the spoilers you guys wrote basically because I barely ever play the living story. Does anyone know if the new updates build upon the previous update? Like do I need to have played the Marionette fight to unlock this new one? What I read intrigued me to getting back to playing the living story now honestly.

I’ll tackle your points with the knowledge that I know of.

1- You make a good point with Orr being cleansed but it has been a year and it hasn’t recovered yet. It was specifically stated by Trahearne in the cleansing of Orr PS mission that the ritual he did would cleanse Orr and help it recover but that it would take a lot of time and only when Zhaitan is defeated. Sure I understand that given Anet wants a breathing living world they should show recovery of Orr, but that just can’t happen in the game unless they make all of Orr instanced with two different time stages. You can’t have Orr fully recovered in the world and then when a person starts a new character have it say that Zhaitan is corrupting and invading and we need to go to Orr to defeat him and his army but find out that Orr is cleansed. I think that given time they will introduce Orr being cleansed in an instanced zone, but until then sadly the world has to stay in limbo, at least that zone.

2- If the Elder Dragons cannot be killed/defeated permanently then Anet is shooting itself in the foot because then we have 5 other Dragons that won’t be defeated and that would end with GW2 being about running away and hiding from the Armageddon caused by the Elder Dragons other than stopping the Armageddon.

3- Abaddon giving magic to Tyrians is a huge misconception that has been proven false by many on these forums. What Abaddon did was not give magic to the Tyrians but he released it from the ‘Bloodstone’ (which I believe was created originally by the Seers iirc). What this did was let Magic be used more freely by everyone in larger quanties which led to problems and the human race almost becoming extinct. This led to King Dorric pleading the gods to take that gift back (limit the usage of magic to how it was before). This caused the struggle between Abaddon and the rest of the gods. The gods put the magic back into the ‘Bloodstone’ and sealed it using King Doric’s blood which is how it got the name Bloodstone in the first place. It was then divided into 4 parts and a 5th keystone part to make sure that no one would be able to put it back together easily and bestowing the increased usage of magic back to Tyria as a form of protection.

4- As far as we know, with the help of Glint, the races were hidden from the dragons. Whether it was underground or not we do not know exactly (unless I’m missing something stated). Also, the Mursaats betrayed the other races and found a way to phase out of the world and save themselves.

5- The records in game are actually contradicting to that prior note that Glint hid the races from the dragons so they survived. The dwarven legends (which I guess are from the Tome of Rubicon which is stated that it might not be reliable due to rewritten over the ages) and the Jotun Stelae which afaik aren’t that accurate, state like you quoted that they battled and survived the dragons. It is also known that the Seers used a magic ritual to release Glint from Kralkatorric’s corruption which afterwards she helped hide them from the Elder Dragon’s so they could survive. Glint was then punished for her betrayal before GW2 started (as seen in the Edge of Destiny Novel)

6- Battling and Surviving could very well mean that they fought the Elder Dragon minions and then survived by Glint hiding them. It does not necessarily mean that they tried to kill the Elder Dragons and failed because the Elder Dragon’s cannot be killed.

Well it was stated by Twistgear that the new probes are there bec. she may have found something important in that area. Any ideas?

Rising Dusk.2408:

pzyonix.1645:

Sylvari are immune to the dragon corruption.

Their immunity to other dragons’ corruption may be directly tied to the possibility of them being dragon minions already. It is impossible for us to say currently without rampant speculation.

It is known from the CoE dungeon that dragon’s corruption can overlap on minions. We learn this through the boss Subject Alpha if I remember the name right.

Nice catch Glestad, I think you might be onto something. The screens show some convo missing. Do you know when Rytlock and his search party spawn? Also I’m curious how did you figure out which waypoints there were using or heading to?

Or, you know he can be working with the consortium who is working with the inquest who are working with Scarlet to get payback on us for not voting for him on council….

Conspiracy Theory at it’s best.

BrunoBRS.5178:

Xukavi.4320:

BrunoBRS.5178:

Xukavi.4320:

The only reason I honestly brought this up was the wording used in her line “I told the Inquest chaos energy was a misnomer. Mind you, dragon energy is tricky, so I can see how they flubbed it.”

When she says that it seems she’s talking to the group that went into the fractals (which are supposedly members of the Inquest). It wouldn’t make sense for her saying that she told the inquest that it was a misnomer and talking to us as a different group of people unless we actually were a different group of people than inquest or she knew we weren’t inquest.

you’ve never talked to a hypothetical listener? like, even in your inner monologues?

Well, if you wanna put it that way fine. It would fit her crazy mentality I guess. It just seemed a bit odd

but it’s not crazy to talk with yourself as if someone were listening… right? ._.

Of course not Also, is there any way to edit this thread so it isn’t a Q & A one? I tried editing and removing the tick box that said Q&A but its still the same

BrunoBRS.5178:

Xukavi.4320:

The only reason I honestly brought this up was the wording used in her line “I told the Inquest chaos energy was a misnomer. Mind you, dragon energy is tricky, so I can see how they flubbed it.”

When she says that it seems she’s talking to the group that went into the fractals (which are supposedly members of the Inquest). It wouldn’t make sense for her saying that she told the inquest that it was a misnomer and talking to us as a different group of people unless we actually were a different group of people than inquest or she knew we weren’t inquest.

you’ve never talked to a hypothetical listener? like, even in your inner monologues?

Well, if you wanna put it that way fine. It would fit her crazy mentality I guess. It just seemed a bit odd

The only reason I honestly brought this up was the wording used in her line “I told the Inquest chaos energy was a misnomer. Mind you, dragon energy is tricky, so I can see how they flubbed it.”

When she says that it seems she’s talking to the group that went into the fractals (which are supposedly members of the Inquest). It wouldn’t make sense for her saying that she told the inquest that it was a misnomer and talking to us as a different group of people unless we actually were a different group of people than inquest or she knew we weren’t inquest.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Xukavi.4320:

Given how they are now called Energy Probes, it would make more sense that they aren’t used for scanning for something but used to gather energy to empower something.

Taimi states they’re used for looking.

Which are what probes are, typically. Not gatherers but seekers.

Given the name, it’s likely she’s looking for… wait for it… energy!

Likely, thus, magical concentrations. Such as ley lines…

And she has a drill…

Yea, makes sense. Once I read probe first thing that hit my mind was the probes from Mass Effect 2 and how you used those to gather resources. Would fit in that she’s both using them to look for something and probably use an attachment to them to get what she’s looking for.

See that’s what confuses me, we were turned into Inquest members in the fractals and it seemed like she were talking to us. Her line was “I told the Inquest chaos energy was a misnomer. Mind you, dragon energy is tricky, so I can see how they flubbed it.” This seems to be more on the line that she was talking to someone who wasn’t Inquest rather than people that were Inquest.

I’m pretty sure this has been discussed before but I wanted to understand something. Was Scarlet’s presence in the Thuamanova Reactor Fractal her actually being there when the Reactor was going haywire or was she somehow in our fractal as we were viewing it. I say this because when I read her dialogue she seems to be talking to us regarding what was happening but I didn’t get the feeling that she was saying she was behind the explosion.

Given how they are now called Energy Probes, it would make more sense that they aren’t used for scanning for something but used to gather energy to empower something.

I’m honestly curious to where you got your information that the Elder Dragons cannot be killed. Not that I’m calling you out on it, but I’ve never read anywhere about something like that.

What you’re saying does make sense in a way, but I honestly don’t want Anet returning to Zhaitan again. Sure the fight was rushed but you’re confusing closure with having a bad final boss fight. Closure was there at the end of the Personal Story missions. We cleansed Orr with Trahearne and the land was being healed but it was stated it would take time to recover and all that was left was defeating Zhaitan to stop the corruption once and for all. After doing the Arah Story Mode dungeon we defeat Zhaitan. Sure the fight was lame but we already know the reasons for that. I don’t see any clever or rational way of them bringing back Zhaitan.

Let me log on and check real quick. I remember it was right infront of the cave entrance

Edit: Yea ok i just checked and it’s there guarded by some Aetherblades. My bad.

Underdark.3726:

everybody says that the X in bloodtide coast is whispers headquarters, yes? So where is the dot representing the probe just outside the cave? is not there. and so are missing the others.
And yes, the X’s are ambiguous, just like i stated.
Yes, the orders are trying to stop Scarlet, but she always followed the plan she have. She think everybody is meaningless, she sees everybody as insects and is just not like her to take a detour from her plan to destroy the orders.
imho.

Last time I checked the Whispers HQ right after the patch there was no Thumper in front of it. I thought they removed it from there.