Ok here’s my interpretation of everything an how both Ronin and Obsidian are correct to some degree. First off let me say that I do believe that Rytlock is going to Barradin and he holds the key to this whole curse.
The curse does state that until either Sohothin or Magdaer return to the hands of the rightful king of ascalon the curse won’t be lifted. Here’s why the solution imo is that either sword must be returned to Duke Barradin.
When the Foefire was unleashed it turned all humans to ghosts forever defending Ascalon from the invasion of the Charr. From the wiki on Ascalonian Ghosts: “Their zeal to defend Ascalon is absolute and anything living is seen as charr or an ally of the charr and therefore a threat that must be eliminated.” Imo, the Ghosts are forever stuck in time fighting the battle to defend Ascalon from invading Charr which explains why they see everyone as either Charr or allies of Charr, have no knowledge of time passing. This brings me to why I believe Barradin is the key to lifting the curse. Since they are somehow stuck in the time when the invasion is happening to lift the curse you would need the Rightful King at that time to have either Sohothin or Magdaer to lift it. Who was the rightful king at that time? Duke Barradin. Who was the king by popular demand? Adelbern. Therefore it is Duke Barradin that we need to return the sword Magdaer/Sohothin to.
As far as I know according to GW lore no one knows where the key stone is right now. Also, we’re still missing the location of 2 other Bloodstones. I honestly do think that the Master of Peace is headed to the bloodstone in the Maguuma Jungle. Maybe part of Glint’s legacy was the knowledge of the location of the bloodstones we knew from GW1.
The Keystone ‘is’ one of the 2 unknown (locations) bloodstones. Known are:
- Maguma Jungle stone
- Abaddon’s mouth stone (on the fire islands)
- Bloodstone cave’s stone (in the bloodstone caves)
The bloodstone cave’s one is the only bloodstone of which it’s (still) existence in GW2 can be derived from activity around it’s location. The other bloodstone locations are inaccessible.
In regards to the keystone, my personal hunch is that part of the recently mentioned locket, that shows the current heir to the crown of Kryta, aka. the bloodline descendent of King Doric. With whoms blood the bloodstones were ‘sealed’, and who’s bloodline was tasked with the guarding of the keystone (and through it the bloodstones themselves). As this keystone is needed to reassemble the stones. The potent magic of the item, and the showing of the portrait makes it a likely candidate. Especially seeing that ‘a key’ is usually not the size of the door it fits on…
But until more is revealed about this locket, this is obviously speculation
Well like I said as far a I knew. Thanks for updating my info. I thought we were missing 2 bloodstones other than the key stone.
1- The elder dragons have been around before the human gods arrived in Tyria so when dragons sleep gods exist and vice versa doesn’t work
2- Moreover during the PS mission that had us kill the risen priestess of Grenth as tasked by one of his reapers he clearly states that Grenth wants his Priestess back indicating that they are still around but not active in our society
3- According to lore, the human gods were attracted to the magic found in the artesian waters and build Arah in Orr because they were attracted to powerful magic. At that time they had no idea it was Zhaitan that was the source of this magic.
4- During the previous rises of the Elder Dragons there was no sign or record of Sylvari among the ancient races that faced the dragons hence pointing towards the fact that they are a new race. If the Pale Tree is after more control then where was she thousands of years ago during the previous ED rises?
As far as I know according to GW lore no one knows where the key stone is right now. Also, we’re still missing the location of 2 other Bloodstones. I honestly do think that the Master of Peace is headed to the bloodstone in the Maguuma Jungle. Maybe part of Glint’s legacy was the knowledge of the location of the bloodstones we knew from GW1.
What I find funny is how there are vines at WPs now in LA and even after the events of Concordia and Fort Salma they aren’t really doing anything about it.
No one knows and there is currently another thread if not more that is discussion this issue. Nothing in game tells us directly how our PC knew the name of Mordy.
Kind of wild but I like this theory. In the case of Scarlet being controlled by Kralky why would she disrupt the ley lines waking up Mordremoth? I could understand Aerin being corrupted by Kralky and going after the Master of Peace since MoP was the head of Zephyrites who were protecting Glint who was his Lieutenant that betrayed him.
You do realize that when Anet said that they were trying to have their LS be like GoT they weren’t referring to events that were happening in the GoT story at all right? What they meant by that was that they wanted to have plot twists and suspense in their story in order to have people on the edge wanting to know what happens in the next episode. They wanted us to keep trying to figure out what’s going to happen next in the story because that’s how things are for people watching the GoT series. You always want to know what’s to gonna happen to your favorite character or how a newly introduced character is going to relate to the ongoing story, what’s their role.
Now if we look at what we have in LS S2:
1- Where does this Master of Peace fit in and what’s he hiding
2- What’s Mordy trying to find and where is he going to attack next?
3- What’s with the new amulet artifact we found that shows who’s the heir of Kryta.
4- What does the Pale Tree know that we will find out?
If you ask me, we’re already on the edge trying to find out what’s going to happen next. This is what Anet meant by a LS that’s like GoT.
After having found a locket in Concordia that shows you who the true heir of Kryta is, events of the living story will unfold and Jennah will die. This will lead us into using said artifact to track down this heir who…wait for it…turns out to be Mr. E !! We also then find out that Livia had disappeared to find and guard him this whole time.
In one of the topics I did say that I thought the reason Mordy attacked Concordia was because how they were excavating important artifacts and guess what info we get when we’re at Concordia? An amulet that shows the current heir of Kryta. What about Fort Salma?
From the final cutscene basically we’re told that the Eternal Alchemy has pieces that work and are in motion. Everything we know so far says that pretty much everything is linked to he Eternal Alchemy and they all serve a purpose. By this I’m talking about the Pale Tree, Nightmare, PC, human gods, dragons Scarlet, Caithe, Faolain. All of those are like pieces in a huge machine. One thing that really is getting on my mind lately is how i the Master of Peace connected to this all?
I was with the idea of balance of the eternal alchemy and the elder dragons but something just came to mind. If the pale tree knows of this balance and how critical it is to the world, why would Sylvari be fighting the elder dragons? Why would any Sylvari’s mission in life (like Caithe and the PC if Sylvari) be to kill Zhaitan.
The reason why people are saying the human gods are part of the Eternal Alchemy is because of a quest in GW1 that had an asura do an experiment that ended up linking gods to the Eternal Alchemy. If recall correctly there’s a book in GW2 that references this NPC and his findings and him stating that he’d die where he was doing his research.
I’m with the crowd that thinks the Orb that crashed into the center is Mordremoth, though I have a theory. The Eternal Alchemy shows how the universe works. It’s held in balance by those different Orbs which start spinning when the Elder Dragons are awoken. The Orbs in front of each other serve as counter balance to each other. Now what happens when that balance is meddled with. If the Orb that crashed represents Mordremoth then its representing how there was balance and Zhaitan’s death caused imbalance which caused Mordy to crash into the middle Orb. Now the Elder Dragons all play a bigger role including the Pale Tree and Nightmare court and the human gods. They are all linked in the universe held in balance. Killing Zhaitan screwed this up and balance must be restored thus Mordy must be killed.
We have spent a lot of time reading Scarlet’s 28475 different journals in story instances of season 1 and 2. You’d think that the name was mentioned somewhere.
But alternatively, I’m also pretty okay with it being common knowledge.
And what’s more, it’s just a name. It’s just what people call the plant dragon. Like… “The Sunless”. Or “Tequatl”. I doubt that any of them named themselves. It’s just some convention that makes communicating easier.
well it can’t be common knowledge, because prior to this very moment, most of tyria thought there were only three dragons left. the order of whispers and the priory thought it stopped at 5 dragons. then mordy shows up out of nowhere, not mentioned on any of the ancient dwarven and jotun scriptures (where the names of the other dragons and knowledge of the deep sea dragon comes from). and somehow the player character not only has a name for it, but the rest of your party reacts as if they knew what that name meant.
and it doesn’t mean anything. unlike your example (tequatl the sunless), tequatl is a hylek name, “sunless” is what they call the risen. they worship the sun, so they’re basically calling the risen demons. speaking of risen, they call zhaitan by name.
mordremoth’s name comes out of freaking nowhere, and all previously estabilished (in-game!) lore points towards no one knowing he existed, much less his name. its name reveal was very sloppy, and while it’s a minor flub in the grand scheme of things, i’d rather the devs be more careful to avoid such glaring things next time. the player isn’t the player character. the player character doesn’t read lore forums.
I disagree about the Orders not knowing about 6 Elder Dragons. In the Durmand Priory one specific NPC Scholar Trueclaw notes “Jotun, mursaat, forgotten, seer, dwarf. Five against six. It seems so unfair. And, yet…”. The fact that he’s in the Durmand Priory stating that 5 races against 6 (Dragons) and he’s actually an Order of Whispers agent infiltrating the Durmand Priory shows that to some point they did know of the existence of a 6th Elder Dragon.
I do agree on how the hell did our PC know his name without anything in game pointing towards it. Maybe it was left out intentionally so people could come up with their own ways on how their PC knew the name? Sounds cheeky but possible.
The living story is essentially a living world meaning you’ll see all the updates. Living story is meant to show you how the in game world progresses after your Personal Story is over. That being said, the content is meant to be played after you have finished your Personal Story as the events in it take place after the Personal Story (PS) is done. Currently the events of Season 2 take place I believe 2 in game years after the Personal Story has finished. That being said there is nothing stopping you from playing the Living Story once you hit lvl 80 but it would make more sense if you finish the Personal Story first. I’d suggest playing normally and finishing the Personal Story. It would do you good to at least read about what happened during Season 1 so you know how the world was changed.
Some changes include:
1- Kessex Hills having a destroyed plant tower in the middle of the water (Tower of Nightmares)
2- Lornar’s Pass having the remains of the Marionette (can’t remember which update this was)
3- Lion’s Arch being mostly destroyed and rebuilt you can find the remains of the machine used in the water as it has it’s own PoI (Attack on Lion’s Arch)
So if you haven’t noticed yet, Mirkise WP in Brisban Wildlands is destroyed. Shattered on the ground probably because of the vines. I can’t help but notice that there are still Seraph Soldiers running towards it and disappearing as if using it to teleport somewhere.
I haven’t checked it myself but when I was passing through Gendarren Fields I did find a star in my map (similar to a personal WP you put or the story WP but not green) that was titled Living Story Season 1 recap or something similar to recap. You could try checking that out.
Abbadon started as God of Truth as well. As I told, it’s nearly impossible, but I like the idea.
I’m curious as to where you got that info. Personally I’ve never come across anything that states that he was the God of Truth. I know he was the God of Secrets.
Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t we know two things about dragons so far:
1- They absorbed magic up until there was no more and went to slumber
2- Their champions/lieutenants (wtv u wanna call em) supposedly gather magic to help them awaken.
If those two are correct (and from what I’ve known before they are but I could be mistaken), then it would make sense that what Scarlet did was create a surge of magic from the ley lines towards Mordy to awaken him earlier than what was supposed to happen. Basically she did what a dragon champion was supposed to do which is feed the Elder Dragon magic in order to awaken him.
Put in mind that the whole Rytlock investigating the Probes around Tyria only happend quite the while after they appeared. I also find it pretty weird that no NPC are taking note of those vines.
Can anyone remember what happened during the story mission of Concordia? The researchers we saved found “an ancient dwarven tome that might help in defeating the elder dragons”. Maybe the reason he’s attacking there is to stop any more researchers looking for more artifacts.
I think the main reason why they don’t let random NPCs in the world refer to you as commander is because of the fact that you can play through the whole game without even coming near the PS therefor technically never being part of the Pact of a Commander of the Pact.
Exactly what Ronin was saying, I have a feeling that The Pale Tree has some control over what info is propagated to other Sylvari in the Dream. From her reaction to Scarlet (in trying to understand the forces that shape us you’ll unleash them upon the world that is not ready yet ~ What Scarlet Saw) she clearly knows that Mordy is around and knew that what Scarlet wanted to do would have effects towards him. Scarlet also says by name that the NC and Faolain and Caithe including with them the Pale Tree all play a role in a grand scheme. Afterwards we find out that Caithe is keeping a dark secret that Scarlet found out about.
I think jw = just wondering. On topic though, I don’t mind the 2 week release schedule of new content especially when you notice that during those two weeks of each episode they’re building up towards the next episode subtly. If you haven’t noticed for example, lots of way points around Tyria now have thorny vines coming next to them which appear to be siphoning energy from these way points.
My idea was that only Faolain of the Nightmare Court knows the truth about their actions helping Mordy in some way and that Caithe found out about this. The Pale Tree also knew about Mordy and how Scarlet’s actions would wake him up. I’m still inclined to believe that there’s something else in the works other than Mordy because of how The Pale Tree when talking to Scarlet in Omadd’s machine refers to “the forces that shape us”.
I’d actually like that, maybe not something in the main story but as a sideline event or something at least. I was surprised recently (during my 2nd character run) that they used his Sylvari companion’s grave as a skill challenge and the Norn was there.
Theory: The blueprint of the device we saw in Scarlet’s old room was a device we’ll see in the next epiode (pretty much confirmed from the trailer) and was created by her for 2 reasons.
1- Its a mapping of the waypoints around the world or the very least those personal waypoints she was trying to create
2- Allows the vines to traverse the magical currents between those waypoints
And that is how Mordy will spread throughout Tyria.
I have some theories regarding Scarlet and Mordy and the grand picture of everything. Please note before reading below that I don’t have concrete evidence for any of this but its more of speculation so feel free to discuss/criticize or add to this.
When Scarlet came out of Omadd’s device she said she saw the grand picture and how the nightmare court, pale tree, caithe and faolain were all “part of a grand design”. Scarlet’s vision had thorny vines (much like we’ve been encountering which are probably Mordy’s) crawling up the Pale Tree. We also know that when she wanted was to be free from control or from anyone trying to control her fate. She even proceeded to say that the forces that push them can be set against each other.
Now here’s what my theory is. What I think is that the Nightmare Court are to Mordy as what the Sons of Svanir are to Jormag. I also believe that Faolain knows of Mordremoth’s existence, moreover Caithe’s dark secret is she also knows of this but has not done anything or said anything about it. Scarlet found out about this and wanted to set Mordremoth against the Pale Tree in hopes of Mordy taking her out. She would then rely on us (the pact) in taking care of Mordy, thus in the end setting the Sylvari race free from both forces.
Something that I’ve noticed that both Scarlet and Aerin have in common is the fact that there is another entity talking to them in their minds. Like you said, Scarlet was arguing with an entity about the ideas being hers. Aerin after the first time we fight him also talked to someone else. His line: “Unhappy times. Unhappy. Must find the master. Yes, you’re right. Must not let them stop me.”, clearly shows that there was another entity he was talking to.
I’m with Bruno on the part with the megalaser (at 18 seconds) looks like a leyline to me.
The part after at 21 seconds does look like the diagram from Scarlet’s room.
I thought all the giants were extinct/risen in the game? or mostly for that part, only giant i’ve seen a live was during an event where you help would clear his cave of trolls.
I believe it was explained before that they did have way points in lore but as SunRoamer stated there were limitations such as being from way point to way point. If recollection was correct when that was explained it was said that players had a certain device (not 100% sure on this one might need to find a source) that enabled them to teleport to any way point that they synced with. This could be the mobile way point she’s talking about.
Hey guys, I’m working on a build for WvW and I decided on playing the D/D SA/CS build. Currently running Valkyrie armor and Berzerker weapons. I was wondering what rune set to take with the armor and if going for Berzerker accessories is the right way to go.
Well I’m sorry if my post came out as stating that he is a source. I see him more as someone that does the searching and talks about it and links some theories together. So long a you know that what he says isn’t to be taken as 100% accurate then sure he’s a good source to listen to. Think of him more as listening to the discussions that’s usually going on in the internet more of thing.
Bellyboomer is right about woodenpotatoes. He’s well informed and I believe he’ll help you out a lot. The way I see it, he goes around gathering the lore on certain topics and discusses it and tries to find links between different topics, even if it’s not him that gets the info. he’s still a good source of info on lore. Think of him as someone that does the searching for you and discusses the lore.
I don’t think they need to remake the story-mode zhaitan fight but they can build upon it. Like it was said before we don’t really see zhaitan’s corpse. They could make it so that he’s still alive but extremely weakened. It could be a build upon Scarlet’s Drill messing with the ley lines. One line could have sent magic bursting towards a weakened Zhaitan in which we then realize that he’s recovering so we go into a new exploreable path in Arah to finish him off once and for all. That way they didn’t really mess with the PS mode but they still delivered a better fight. They could also add an npc in the exploreable mode explaining that we defeated him but not killed him and the actions of Scarlet was helping him regain power as a side effect.
You know that people will hate on you whether you kill them or not… xD
Was sad really, my first foray into sPvP with my Thief and was still being called a noob HS spammer (though I would only use HS maybe once on target). That was by a warrior who was actually destroying me xD
