Guild Wars 2

EQ by itself was for Hard Core MMO Types. For people who did not mind working hard and putting real effort in. That whole game was based on the journey and when you did finally acquire something spectacular, you really felt a great sense of accomplishment. Others would flock around and send you /tell ‘s for days asking questions etc. Today’s games are catering towards making money first and flavor last.

They all seem to think that it is ok to break out an unfinished product because eventually they will get to it and all will be ok.

Very simple premise for games that appeal to everyone…..Give us a lot to do, Give us a lot to see, Give us the chance to endure journeys to complete important quests. Give us your ear when we have issues. Feedback to the folks who pay the bills.

fractal.7039:

World PVP is nothing but ganking and griefing. If you want world like PVP go to WvWvW….

Oh… and don’t say “playerbase” … you are not speaking for me or 95% of the other players.

If they don’t create a PvP server, that makes you happy and does not make me happy.
If they create a PvP server, you don’t have to roll a toon there. You will be still be happy but I will be happy as well. Why not just help others irregardless of your opinion when it has zero effect on you?

cesmode.4257:

@op: I guess because this is the way they designed it, much like the open world non instanced game of WoW is designed the way it is…

People need to stop believing that this is a PVP game, where everything must be catered to PVP and the Guild Wars 1 style of the game… It is its own game from the lore of GW1. Thats it.

If you are a smart businessman, you will always create different avenues to proceed. Whenever you lock yourself into 1 way of doing business, you have shot yourself in the foot. These folks are not ignorant, and I am quite certain they have discussed this many times over and continue to do so whether this thread would of been created or not.

Ditton.3149:

you’re right, Im wrong. Go convince the devs its lucrative and worth their time, ill be awaiting your triumph.

As far as this guy is concerned, he claims he likes Open World PvP but in this whole thread he argues and troll’s. He is probably one of the guys who is reporting all of my threads lol. Why do you care so much or even want to talk about being lucrative? We the players should not care about worrying how to make the game money. What are you thinking???? Do you work for the game? Another thing, no one absolutely cares why you “Don’t want a PvP Server”. Don’t log in there, that is the very basis. There is only 1 Opinion that matters when it comes to saying no to us that it won’t work and that is the folks who created this game.

Why feel so compelled to be their advocate and jump the gun and tell us no, unt uh, it aint happening? lol

ZaiTh.6378:

Rellow.7364:

ZaiTh.6378:

Rellow.7364:

Sin.8174:

This thread should just be closed. It’s pointless as a PvP enthusiast to ask for anything like this. PvE players will come in and stomp over an idea that doesn’t even affect them in the slightest. Throwing in their opinions as fact as to why it wouldn’t work (DE’s broken… really?) :/

Let’s not forget insulting the majority of pvp players by claiming they’re just there to kill people not expecting it… (PvP server implies you’re going to be ganked.. so expect it.)

It’s hopeless really. Wish we could have an OWPvP server, but probably never going to happen. -.-

The problem isn’t that I don’t want a PvP server. (Hell, if I could have multiple characters on different servers I would try one out if it didn’t turn out to be as broken as I think it would be.)
The problem is that you’re asking for a PvE focused game to rewrite it’s entire design philosophy for a demographic of players they weren’t advertising to in the first place.

Yes, Dynamic Events would be broken (I suppose this is only my opinion, but it’s founded on prior knowledge of how a free for all PvP server functions), yet so much more would have to be uprooted and mutilated or taken out entirely for a PvP environment to work.

Heart quests? Imagine getting one of the tasks that require you to pick up one of terrible weapon bundles with a single function meant for completing that task, with a pathetically weak attack as a second skill? You’re going to be at an obvious disadvantage if Johnny McStabsalot catches you with your pants down and starts wailing on you while you’re in the middle of some animation and trying to drop the bundle.

I suppose that kind of unfair conduct is expected in a PvP server, but then how are you going to level if doing heart quests and dynamic events are just asking for trouble? How are you going to grind up gold? Keep in mind that the current server transfer policy is entirely temporary, and at some point down the line we’re all going to be locked to servers, leaving you on an island where all the coconut trees are surrounded by legions of psychopaths wanting to carve you up like a thanksgiving turkey.

Guild Wars 2 is, in it’s very core, a “carebear” MMO as quite a few others advocating for open PvP have mentioned. It’s meant for casual play with a few modes like WvW and sPvP put out for those that occasionally feel the need for something more engaging. I highly doubt ArenaNet would be willing to put in the necessary resources to please you and everyone else who wants open world PvP when they weren’t targeting your demographic in the first place. I can only suggest that you and everyone else find a different game, as your $60 was evidently not well spent here.

I can answer that real quick in 1 word.

So?

…you didn’t read it did you?

TL;DR version: Open world PvP won’t work due to the game’s core design as a casual MMO which encourages spontaneous cooperation, and you won’t get Anet to change anything to fix this issue (because that costs too much money) so you might as well play a game that will appeal to hardcore PvPers.

EQ2 said they will never ever institute a PvP Server and covering everything that you said (yes I did read it). They said this countless times. Guess what? They made like 3-4 PvP servers after folks like me insisted. If you never ask for anything, you will never get anything or ever get recognized.

I just wanted to reiterate that nothing is impossible. If a large scale MMO like EQ2 which was “never ever” designed to have PvP can make it happen, why would you ever say that another large scale MMO like GW2 that is designed around the PvP model, can’t do it? You think they are incapable of doing it? You should be reported and have your message stricken P

Red Falcon.8257:

Thanks Robert for working on this.
Hopefully Champions/World Bosses will also yield better loot at some point.

Looking at your Sig and I am thinking to myself, Um yeah it is.

Ditton.3149:

Ive never been in a pvp server that didnt end up degrading itself into nothing but a bunch of gankers wanting to kill whoever the “new guy” was. Its not worth the resources and would die quickly, you can bet me anything you want. Show me a FFA pvp game that survived. If it survives its like Eve..a complete niche game, eeking out an existence with the crowd it has and not backed by huge corporate investors…just isnt going to happen. Not enough revenue in it for them.

In a server where nobody cares about lore or how they look..how is Anet going to make cash? boosters..no, costumes..no…so then what? Sorry guys, it sounds on the surface like a good idea, it never is.

and Ive played on real open world ffa pvp games..shadowbane, ultima online..where the minute you stepped outside of the beginner zone..you were nothing but meat with dollar signs above your head.

Alas you kept playing pvp games. Contradiction is a (fill this in). Again, don’t roll a toon their and problem solved, you won’t get ganked.

And we will continue to have them in the future with other MMo’s.

Biggest reason I never use a wand.

Rellow.7364:

ZaiTh.6378:

Rellow.7364:

Sin.8174:

This thread should just be closed. It’s pointless as a PvP enthusiast to ask for anything like this. PvE players will come in and stomp over an idea that doesn’t even affect them in the slightest. Throwing in their opinions as fact as to why it wouldn’t work (DE’s broken… really?) :/

Let’s not forget insulting the majority of pvp players by claiming they’re just there to kill people not expecting it… (PvP server implies you’re going to be ganked.. so expect it.)

It’s hopeless really. Wish we could have an OWPvP server, but probably never going to happen. -.-

The problem isn’t that I don’t want a PvP server. (Hell, if I could have multiple characters on different servers I would try one out if it didn’t turn out to be as broken as I think it would be.)
The problem is that you’re asking for a PvE focused game to rewrite it’s entire design philosophy for a demographic of players they weren’t advertising to in the first place.

Yes, Dynamic Events would be broken (I suppose this is only my opinion, but it’s founded on prior knowledge of how a free for all PvP server functions), yet so much more would have to be uprooted and mutilated or taken out entirely for a PvP environment to work.

Heart quests? Imagine getting one of the tasks that require you to pick up one of terrible weapon bundles with a single function meant for completing that task, with a pathetically weak attack as a second skill? You’re going to be at an obvious disadvantage if Johnny McStabsalot catches you with your pants down and starts wailing on you while you’re in the middle of some animation and trying to drop the bundle.

I suppose that kind of unfair conduct is expected in a PvP server, but then how are you going to level if doing heart quests and dynamic events are just asking for trouble? How are you going to grind up gold? Keep in mind that the current server transfer policy is entirely temporary, and at some point down the line we’re all going to be locked to servers, leaving you on an island where all the coconut trees are surrounded by legions of psychopaths wanting to carve you up like a thanksgiving turkey.

Guild Wars 2 is, in it’s very core, a “carebear” MMO as quite a few others advocating for open PvP have mentioned. It’s meant for casual play with a few modes like WvW and sPvP put out for those that occasionally feel the need for something more engaging. I highly doubt ArenaNet would be willing to put in the necessary resources to please you and everyone else who wants open world PvP when they weren’t targeting your demographic in the first place. I can only suggest that you and everyone else find a different game, as your $60 was evidently not well spent here.

I can answer that real quick in 1 word.

So?

…you didn’t read it did you?

TL;DR version: Open world PvP won’t work due to the game’s core design as a casual MMO which encourages spontaneous cooperation, and you won’t get Anet to change anything to fix this issue (because that costs too much money) so you might as well play a game that will appeal to hardcore PvPers.

EQ2 said they will never ever institute a PvP Server and covering everything that you said (yes I did read it). They said this countless times. Guess what? They made like 3-4 PvP servers after folks like me insisted. If you never ask for anything, you will never get anything or ever get recognized.

MrThebigcheese.2014:

ZaiTh.6378:

MrThebigcheese.2014:

I wasn’t saying ultra casual is a good thing. It was a criticism of the game, not a defense.

Your rant is ignorant. I like world PvP. This game will never, ever add it though. GW2 is for beginners.

You state my so called ignorance yet no justification thereof. /Boggle

But you claim you like world PvP and you are against. /Boggle #2

You said that this game is for Beginners and you play it. lol /Boggle #3

Wow you really aren’t very smart at all, I guess that explains asking for ffa pvp in GW2 lol.

You are ignorant because of all the assumptions you made about me which are entirely incorrect, you compeltely misunderstood my post.

I’m not against world PvP, you just will never see it in this care bear game. As a fan of PvP I have given up on this game already. It’s a poor, shallow pvp game for beginners.

I don’t play anymore, the forums are far more amusing.

Good luck with your misguided quest pretending to be a hard core pvper in GW2.

You don’t play anymore yet you troll. I’m sorry you did not like the GW2 universe. I hope you find happiness in all of your future MMo endeavours. <— I hope I spelled that right.

I had better get off or else my wife will put me in parade rest.

MrThebigcheese.2014:

I wasn’t saying ultra casual is a good thing. It was a criticism of the game, not a defense.

Your rant is ignorant. I like world PvP. This game will never, ever add it though. GW2 is for beginners.

You state my so called ignorance yet no justification thereof. /Boggle

But you claim you like world PvP and you are against. /Boggle #2

You said that this game is for Beginners and you play it. lol /Boggle #3

Phy.2913:

I think it’d be a dead server after a couple months, and a waste of resources.

I would bet you an Asuran Cloth Gold Mask you’re wrong.

Sin.8174:

ZaiTh.6378:

MrThebigcheese.2014:

GW2 is ultra casual. World PvP is not ultra casual.

That’s it really.

Actually you are probably Ultra Casual and that is ok, this game suits you. We, the Real PvPer’s want the same equality. We actually love this game as well and would thoroughly enjoy it more if they opened a “True Red Faction Based Server”.

Why is the world filled with people who some how believe that it is necessary to stop others from obtaining a goal when they have zero claim or anything at stake? Don’t try to hold us down, instead step aside or maybe even assist in what we would like to have. I would do no less for you.

I’d sooner not see it as a faction based server. I’d rather free for all.

This way when people annoy the crap out of you while farming, you can actually do something about it. Faction based PvP is terrible.. Especially when one faction’s numbers are greater. My first MMO was a FFA themed one with a switch for turning on your pvp when you wanted to attack (although you can be ganked with it off), and it was great. I went to WoW and felt what faction themed PvP was like… hated it.

Honestly Sin, if they opened either, I would get in. But you are correct, sides can be lopsided and thoroughly suck.

Phy.2913:

How many people will stick around once the gankers realize there’s no one to gank? You talk like there’s a large amount of players who want open world pvp to fight on equal terms, but the truth is most of them only want to fight when it’s in their favor.

I have PvP’d for many Years, it works. It is about friends and working together as well. I think people are just wired differently. I myself am retired from the military. I was about pushing forward as a team to obtain a common goal, looking back and saying damnlook at what we did smiling . Saying no to me just does not sit right lol. Glutton for punishment, ehh maybe but to me it is fun.

Sure I will get ganked and sometimes many times over, yeah it happens but that is the fear that I want to feel.

MrThebigcheese.2014:

GW2 is ultra casual. World PvP is not ultra casual.

That’s it really.

Actually you are probably Ultra Casual and that is ok, this game suits you. We, the Real PvPer’s want the same equality. We actually love this game as well and would thoroughly enjoy it more if they opened a “True Red Faction Based Server”.

Why is the world filled with people who some how believe that it is necessary to stop others from obtaining a goal when they have zero claim or anything at stake? Don’t try to hold us down, instead step aside or maybe even assist in what we would like to have. I would do no less for you.

Phy.2913:

A server with 80% thieves sounds fun. Love getting ganked trying to level.

I welcome it as I would log in. You fear it so you won’t. That makes you a NoN Real Pvper and me……

Thank you for showing us once again another player who this will effect you by how much? I would say about 0% because you would have the option of not creating a character there. Thanks bra for playing.

I am still seeing the BlueBear folks chiming in about this and that. It is simple, don’t create a character there.

I’m not talking about a full on PvP Red Server, I am talking about a faction based PvP Red Server. People who live for the PvP could really care less about Lore and Story unless it involves killing other players. We also could care less about running around mindlessly farming Karma unless we could nab a kill and throw up an Asura dance on their lifeless dead corpse’s.

If WvWvWvWvW or w/e you want to call it is fun then great, you are already enjoying your game, I am very pleased for you (and I really mean that). Let us so called minority have what we are searching for. I hated Wow but I liked the PvP. I enjoyed the PvP in EQ2 as well before it got out of hand. Warhammer was fantastic but the rest of the game was meh. So many games that have came out almost….almost got it…..Please don’t even mention SWoTOR, Not even a real MMO (Horribad game).

I don’t understand how GW2 is supposed to be largely known as a Real Legitimate PvP based game and they even own “1” Real PvP server. It boggles the mind.

Please let me care about where I tread. I want to feel some kind of fear when I am somewhere, I know I should not be. I feel zero fear here.

WvW is fun but only to a certain extent. I absolutely hate following the mindless zerg around, That my friend is not PvP. I want to see leaderboards etc. People love to work for something. Once you have everything and it gets old….It just gets old =/

Mark my words, this is what will happen here. It will eventually grow stagnant and it will be such a shame to because the game is so kitten beautiful and the possibilities could be endless. There are a lot of great things about this game but it lacks just as much. Talk about Love/Hate relationship……..

I mainly WvW or just go about soloing. GS and sword/Pistol is where it is at if you use them correctly and understand when and what to use at the right times. I do like staff but I like Raw power/crit/toughness. I also win quite a few 2 vs1’s. Anyone cant put up a video.

I dont zerg, I run around solo or with a couple guild mates and destroy face.

Big Thumbs up if it was faction based. I would move there in a second. For all of the others saying no why even speak about it? Just dont join that server, it is simple. I don’t understand why people try to come off that way, it has zero effect on you and w/e blue server you play on.

My avenues of game play is always a bonus irregardless of “anyone’s” stance.

I have found mf gear to be a huge waste of money and time. Never using it again. Thanks for wasting my time.

Would also love to see preview put into it. I want to look good when I am killing

It is not in Spvp, why not take it out of WvW?? In the open PvE environment, it is fine. The traveling costs are ridiculous as there are zero mounts in this game or added abilities via certain classes that could cast a portal. You want to build on community and enforce the structure based on a great MMO experience? Add Portal abilities to a couple of classes, trust me it will work. This was huge in EQ1 and worked out really well. Lets not talk about EQ2…..

DavidGX.1723:

No. Please DON’T add the option to inspect people. If you want to know what gear someone has, ask them. If you want to admire their gear, take a screenshot or three.

Inspecting gear would lead to “gearscore” type elitism and that has no place in this game.

Maybe this happened in the 12 yr old kiddie game WoW but never happened in EQ2. Inspecting others was always welcomed. I agree with an above poster about trading and folks wanting to spend their hard earned gold. I also agree that having inspecting options would be great.

If I want to see just heavy or Light etc, please allow us to only search for those items.

I receive repeated errors when trying to price items.

Please lift the restrictions on what you can price items. Allow the Players to fully control the economy.

Please allow us to access our harvest tab at all times. Makes zero sense from an MMO perspective to not see what you just harvested. When I am out an about and my bp’s are full, I have to deposit my mat’s to this mystical place. If I want to throw them on the Market I can’t. I have to Burn silver to leave and then burn even more silver to come back. That is seriously taking away from the game and wasting money on a time sink.

I try to get on the forums when I can for all of the great info but I miss out on a lot. My apologies if this has been asked before or many times over. Thanks!

Hughs.6549:

Forget the old WoW build. This is Guild Wars!

I’m so sick of reading this. Guild wars 2’s dungeons are… FAILURE !

- No fun
- No strategy
- No challenge
- No difficulty (except trying to figure out what the ****’s going on behind this 1000 layers of visual particles and dodge red circles on the floor all the time)
- Braindead Zerg aka DPS race
- Bosses : aren’t fun, way too simple, they’re everyting but inventive
- Rewards are useless, the carrot wont make people play for a long time
- cc’s are stupid (10h stunlock, 15s chainfear)
- Trashmobs harder than bosses
- Members of a same party DO NOT interact with each other. I’ve ran all dungeons explo many many many times with pugs and guild, people who are saying the contrary are lying to themselves. No heal needed, no tank needed, all you need is to dodge those lame red circles on the floor.
- Want a proof ? I’ve never had any reason to thank a partymate for helping me except for “res-ing” me, there’s just no interaction.
- …

Most of us “Haters” actually really appreciate ANet for trying to bring change in the MMO world, but

This
PVE
is
not
working
at all.

The idea of “getting rid of the Holy Trinity” has its own potential but you gotta be honest it’s badly designed

Finally, the only ones talking about WoW are YOU fanboys. So you can keep lying to yourself, bringing this useless false counter-argument ’WoW blahblah" and stating that the game is flawless and wonderful, but hey, this wont make the game better.

I’d rather read Hundreds of people “Hating” in a constructive way, trying to point out what’s wrong in the game than this unbelievable fanboy community.

I agree 100%

I stay away from dungeons because they are ezmode and designed for kids. They are repetitive and mind numbing for me to do. PvP is what keeps me thank god.

Thebacklash.8396:

(No idea why I can’t see the Quote button in this thread, all other threads i can.)

“Begging your pardon, but a class that gets royally screwed on the loot in DEs, which in GW2 constitute “endgame” cannot by definition be “fine”. This includes both PvE and PvP DEs (WvWvW).”

Sorry, but THIS is the correct answer:

“The Mesmer is fine. I play an engineer as well, and I prefer my Mesmer. It’s okay if a particular class doesn’t click with you, it doesn’t mean it’s “broken” or in need of changes. It means you should play another class… like your engineer.”

He’s right. I see no issues that YOU complain about…. maybe it has something to do with your understanding of the class.

As another Mesmer pointed out in his video’s, there are those that complain and THINK the class is broken… and then there are those that PROVE the class is fine.

Mesmer is NOT a simple class, most people want Mesmer to play THEIR way instead of playing it how it’s MEANT to be played. once you figure that out.. you will play Mesmer better.

is it perfect? no
suited for everyone? no
broken? not really
need some tweaks? yes

Great Response +1

Invictus.1503:

It is a unique to the profession. If they remained, now they are basically pretty minions (of the necro). If they are permanent then they are humanoid pets (of ranger). If they are not tied to a baddie, but instead have a time duration then they are spirit weapons or elementals that look like you (of Guardian and Elementalist).

It fits with the lore that they disappear as well. Since they are illusions it stands to reason that if the target of the illusion is dead, the illusion would die too. It can be frustrating with quick mobs, but with boss battles they are awesome!

It is kind of like when you kill a mob and the irritating snare that is put on you disappears as well….Oh wait it doesn’t. How odd.

Sounds like a good deal. My biggest concern was never joining a large guild. Small but not too small with folks who are on to do some pvping with. I dont like the Zerg as I tend to roam on my own and find a good 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2. I am on quite a bit so that is not a prob. I am retired military so you probably can’t hurt my poor feelings In the end it is all about fun and just killing people.

I never got a chance to play Daoc but I wish I had. I pretty much went
Tanarus
EQ1
Planetside
EQ2
CoD’s and BF’s
LoL and a bunch of Beta Testing of many games to find my way here in GW2.

Have a good one.

Sup Peeps! I am currently seeking a PvP Centric Guild that is 18+ and on Voice Comms whether it be TS, Vent or Mumble etc. I have a fairly long gaming history. My last big MMO was EQ2. With over god I think 70-80K kills in Open World/Battle Grounds. Was in the Top 10 at one point Game Wide. Huge fps fan as well and when I want to mix it up, I throw a lil LoL at it..

Although I love the traditional roles of characters burning up dungeons and raiding, I am bored to tears in GW2 Dungeon scene with the Current setup of solo play. These days I am spending my time getting 100% world completion and pvping like a mofo.

80 Mesmer/400 Tailor lfg. Let me know if you can use another able body to rain down some terror on the forefront

To kill to the process and get back into the game is quite fast (great job on that btw) but my only issue is when I am WvW, I have to wait forever to get back into fight by way of long queue’s. Why is it there is not a timer in place to allow us to go right back to the WvW?

I would love some open pvp zones. Or some hardcore pvp servers.

Devs are aware

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Weird-Sound-Glitch-Bug/

I am having this same exact issue. Happens in WvW and large events with lots of folks.

Sound Card: Razor Barracuda
Headset: Razor Megladon

I have uninstalled/re-installed firmware and drivers with no change in status.

I am having the same Exact issue.

I am so glad others are having this issue. No other game has ever caused this problem. That Youtube video is “Exactly” the same thing that I experience. I don’t always crash but at times when I do, my computer will Blue Screen. I reloaded all of my sound card/Headset drivers and firmware.

Sound Card: Razor Barracuda 5.12.0001.0008
Headset: Razor Megladon 6.01.7601.17514

Still have the same issue.

I do like the UI as a basis and would love it if they brought it to next gen gaming. I am pretty sure they are working on filters etc. The game itself imo is top notch (and I am really F-Bomb picky).

Also please add more filters to the Broker. If I am looking for light armor, that is all I want to see

ConterK.3972:

Effusion.4831:

ConterK.3972:

Effusion.4831:

ConterK.3972:

he has a ~450(mayb more up to 600) AOE range of attack..

lol, no. Not even close. 1200 is the range on the staff, 900 is the range on the scepter, 600 is the range on illusionary leap, 300 is the range of a dodge roll, 130 is the range of blurred frenzy. Warden is somewhere around 200.

do some testings be4 posting, u’ll see

You’re right, I should have done more accurate testing before throwing out a number. It’s actually just short of 300.

300 is radius, 600 is the total AOE RANGE!
like a circle you know?

No I don’t know because you dont say 600, you start with the point of origination to point of destination.

Also for others who post here (now), most folks are unclear how certain mechanics work so they post. Lets focus on building a strong Mesmer Forum where people can maybe, just maybe learn something and make the community better as a whole.

So many possibilities and different loadouts for PvP vs PvE.