OK, wth. All of my selectable traits are reset. Not all of the traits, but the ones you select within the row.
Did I miss a nerf patch, buff patch or something?
My ele with a ‘usually’ really good survivablity build is getting kitten near insta-kill by by everyone tonight in sPvP. There is no time to react, let alone even hit a heal key.
I was just hit by pistol whip 9x instantly. Even have the name of the guy… and ss.
Maybe he changed it throughout the thread. His first page tells you what jewelry he wears. He’s a tough cookie to keep up with.
Regardless, let’s see some sPvP/tPvP videos. Prefer seeing d/d and my fav, s/d.
I would make a video, but yeah – I just get lucky. That and I really don’t have extra time to devote sitting at my computer that doesn’t include playing.
though his build was power/cond dmg/vit ?
Lol Crunchy. I agree. But it really looks fun. I’m trying something similar, but kitten how do you hit those Fkeys so freakin’ quick?
I’m a lefty. So mouse in the left, buttons with the right…..surely people are clicking all those skills.
I would like to thank those who have put those videos up for us to enjoy. They were fun to watch. I’ll probably watch them several times until I actually learn something I am capable of doing. :P Good Stuff!
Now, we all know what that little green arrow means when you are targeting someone. (hint: they aren’t real 80s).
I would love to see videos of Ele pvp from sPvP and tPvP.
Nice work. Thanks for the input we ‘should’ be able to get from the game makers.
They don’t want us to have these analytics because then we will start associating opness with most played which isn’t a valid metric although imo its pretty telling that Thief and Mesmer are the most played by a pretty wide margin and the classes people have the most trouble with.
Of course it would be a valid metric. I mean if the results show Heartseeker 1,000,000 killed. It would be valid. Can’t argue with numbers. You can skew them to make them appear to be something different, though.
Still not seeing an issue with staff Eles. I have yet to see any staff Ele not get gunned downed in a heart beat vs. a good player.
You guys don’t understand that this is just other classes trying to get Moa nerfed so all the Mesmers give them 10s quickness.
No, I think there are far better reasons, which have been mentioned above.
My only whine would be that why the hell Anet made sPvP 8 vs 8. What is reason behind that?
I don’t mind 8v8. I think their intent was for people to actually defend something. Which I find sort of funny. If I stick around, or run around healing everyone…………………………………………………….. I get no points. No points = no leveling. No leveling = why bother. So let’s just zerg.
Remember Black Ops? I would love to see stats like that and even more so, the way it recorded every single match and allowed users to go back and review them at ANY of the players’ perspective. That sir, was the shiat.
Here we have, well, nothing really.
Nice work. Thanks for the input we ‘should’ be able to get from the game makers.
Good post. You had me until I read you said people complain about Ele kiting. If you complain about Ele anything, it’s a fail.
Other than that, I pretty much agree with you.
@Zogyark: your post is hilarious. Are you seriously suggesting to try to attack your enemy with a 2 seconds casting time melee skills that deals 1k damage in the best case?
Are you saying that Moa isn’t overpowered because it can be… DODGED?!?
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Moa can be dodged/evaded quite easily. Moa also often fails due to LoS or because you moved out of its range. You must be quite a…. talent if Moa represents a game-breaking issue for you.
Quite easily? It’s players like you that keep this game from getting better. Unless all you do is run around hiding around corners waiting to pvp a mesmer, you are not going to simply dodge anything. Stop lying.
MOA. If this pve based skill should be allowed in PvP, then it should break on damage or make the moa’d invulnerable for the duration.
I have a feeling this skill’s intent was for CC. It is being used to lock someone down the entire time and pummeling a defenseless target.
Bad design.
3 more more Thieves on one team in sPvP, I’ll afk the round out. Sorry, but if ‘they’ won’t fix it, I’ll do what I can to make my point.
You don’t see this in tPvP, though.
Oh hey another “Guildwars 1 pvp was perfect” thread. Yea we know. Guildwars 2 sucks because its different boohoo.
Not that it’s different, it’s that is sucks. They have sat way too long with the game in this crap state.
A real company would have fixed this by now. Just sayin’.
There is a reason why all you see is thieves and mesmers, and this company doesn’t care, I’m afraid. At least, this is what it appears to everyone here and those who make their points on other forums so they aren’t removed here. If it isn’t fixed, the game is done faster than D3.
thieves and mesmers.
That’s it. On a rare occasion you will see a couple other classes. But nope! It’s usually thieves and mesmers.
Well that is what the screen said that pops up after you die. So, I dunno.
If balance is based on a team, then there needs to be some serious restrictions forming the team….I mean serious.
I just went through back to back to back matches with 6 mesmers in the game. I think it should be 1v1 balanced. Everyone should have the same chance at winning. Prior to that streak of games, I was seeing 5 thieves in the game.
If you want melee, fine play it. If you want a caster, fine play that. But they should be balanced to where the only thing that matters is the player skill. That goes for ease of play with the character as well.
If it were based on 1 v 1, then it shouldn’t matter if you have all mesmers or all thieves in the game.
BTW, since when is it acceptable for a guardian style of class to drop bombs for over 8k per hit? Just curious.
Tooltip says 224 damage.
I consistently get hit for over 8k per?
In battle of Kyhlo the elementalist can jump directly on the trebu from one of the roofs. If it’s intended I find really stupid that the best tank with the best mobility and the best aoe damage is able to do it.
Paid tournaments will become the exploit fest.
Please PM me the build that makes an elementalist the best tank.
thanks
When used, mist form is the best down skill. Have a teammate interrupt the stomper once. Oh wait, you play it like a solo game, never mind. BUFF TEH ELEZ!
The problem is getting to use it. You say have a teammate stop doing what he is doing, to come over and time an interrupt to just give you a chance to float a way for a few seconds.
You’re right. This is a team game. And requiring what you suggest provides just one more deterrence from having an Ele on your team.
For all those that complain about elementalist being Underpowered
in Elementalist
Posted by: Zatria.5783
Your arguement is invalid because Svanir stands still. Warrior’s damage is instantaneous where as a good majority of Ele skills have windups (i.e., Dragon’s Tooth) and all the cast times. In actual PVP, this is a huge noticeable problem, as a warrior can downstate you before Dragon’s Tooth even lands, and if he downs you, Dragon’s Tooth suddenly doesn’t do any damage even if it was fully casted while still up.
Also comparing Ele DPS to others via the use of NPCs is hardly a good comparison. Any class can kill the NPCs.
Good points. Also, he used phoenix 3 times in a row, 20 second cooldown each. Hmm yeah, just stood there and pressed a few buttons. I’m calling BS on this guy.
Won’t let me edit, so:
Illusion: perception of something objectively existing in such a way as to cause misinterpretation of its actual nature
Do I need to explain what ‘perception’ and ‘misinterpretation’ means too? I’m happy to help out. I like to keep it real and other people in the realistic part of the world.
I agree. This was nothing more than proof that Anet really has no clue what is going on. Their ‘pets’ should do ZERO damage. Them being there is the only advantage they need. Illusion, that is it.
Claims ANet has no clue what’s going on, then claims phantasms should do 0 damage.
I see where this thread is going. I’ll bid this trash can adieu.
What I am saying is, their lil pets should do ZERO damage. They should only mimic the player and even have the graphics show all of them doing the same thing on attacks. You still have the “illusion” of real, multiple characters to attack. I guess you just need to pick the right one. Illusions are just that, illusions. Distractions and deceiving you foe is plenty.
The knowledge you have on mesmers is astoundingly low. I’m not even sure if i should point out how stupid this is or let you figure it out yourself. Although the fact that you had the audacity to even post this tells me you don’t know how to research properly so i guess you’ll forever be in the dark.
Yet you keep trying to convince yourself you have a clue. This isn’t rocket science here Homer. They should do zero damage in pvp and class should be adjusted accordingly, if needed.
I’m not sure why you are so scared to give them up? Crutch, maybe…hmmm?
I agree. This was nothing more than proof that Anet really has no clue what is going on. Their ‘pets’ should do ZERO damage. Them being there is the only advantage they need. Illusion, that is it.
Claims ANet has no clue what’s going on, then claims phantasms should do 0 damage.
I see where this thread is going. I’ll bid this trash can adieu.
What I am saying is, their lil pets should do ZERO damage. They should only mimic the player and even have the graphics show all of them doing the same thing on attacks. You still have the “illusion” of real, multiple characters to attack. I guess you just need to pick the right one. Illusions are just that, illusions. Distractions and deceiving you foe is plenty.
Mesmers and Thieves should be banned from all s/t pvp until they figure this out. Population is dwindling folks, those two classes are a partially responsible for it.
you seem frustrated
Not meaning to, just sayin’ how it is. The classes are way above any other class in the performance to skill ratio. Extremely buttercup friendly.
Down state has no purpose in PvP. I have already beaten this guy, now I have to beat him again while he’s laying on his back doing more damage/cc than I can to him?
Not very well thought out.
Mesmers and Thieves should be banned from all s/t pvp until they figure this out. Population is dwindling folks, those two classes are a partially responsible for it.
Wow. You can give your opinion on what to do, but when someone says something that points out an obvious flaw in your thinking, you report them and have the message deleted?
I tell you again, your nonsense spouting off that mesmers do no more damage than other classes is unfound, ridiculous and proves this post is a waste of time to read.
Is this not constructive enough?
Mr. Gwawer has a very good question. Why is it that it takes all of that to have a chance vs. one class? Why, especially when the class can get by with only using 2 buttons?
You say professions should not be balanced around casual pug Pvp. What do you think the majority of the players are?
BTW: I am pretty sure Anet has already stated an esport scene is not in the plans, not that it should matter for proper balance.
I have this sneaky feeling you play these thief/mesmer classes.
That was my conclusion as well. We’re still dominating any fight we get the drop on, we still have the weaknesses we had before. All this did was harm our PvE game.
I’m going to say this plain. Arenanet needs to stop making adjustments based off of PvP game without considering PVE, or their larger chunk of players will suffer for it.
The recast on phantasms isn’t the problem, it’s the damage they deal in comparison to the damage a Mesmer proper should be dealing. And the easiest way to change that is to make the trait that boosts phantasm damage instead boost the damage of the player per phantasm out.
Yes, we already have a trait that works with illusions that way. However this counts clones as well, and is a minor bonus. Phantasms can be an additional bonus because having them out, reveals the actual Mesmer and puts them in more danger.
I believe that would be a fair trade that would keep Phantasm builds viable, but keep the phantasm abuse down.
As far as this ’nerf’s’ effect on PvP, it won’t solve anything for the qqers as it didn’t resolve shatter builds and it it won’t have the intended effect on phantasm builds.
I agree. This was nothing more than proof that Anet really has no clue what is going on. Their ‘pets’ should do ZERO damage. Them being there is the only advantage they need. Illusion, that is it.
It’s the 2nd easiest class to play in all games made today, right behind this game’s thief.
There is a post on here where someone made a Mesmer. With no clue how to play it, he joined pvp and topped the ranks. If you can see well enough to click a few buttons, you can do mesmer.
Wow. Some serious crap going on here. They think a 15% pw nerf is all it needed? These tools have never played this game. I don’t care what they claim.
GankSinatra is so right one this.
Why can’t I freakin’ quote? !!!
Since you feel the need to run this forum via Hitler Style, I’ll post in here.
Please, do not delete posts that are giving you feedback. You may not like how it was delivered, but nonetheless it is very good feedback. Some people prefer to give it to you straight vs. beating around the bush and coloring all the BS in pretty rainbows. Not everyone is a liberal (aka blind sheep). Most people prefer not to follow a shepherd in blindness, if at all.
What I am telling you is true and very current as to the state of this game.
People are bored. People have tried flocking to PvP to ease the boredom of PvE. Problem here though is, even they are leaving. I have tried all night in regular PvP and tPvp. It is very difficult to get a full game in either. Why? Because the game is Broke D… They have been telling you this for quite a long time now. Something should have been done, aside from deleting the posts you don’t like.
This game is Pay to Play. There is no monthly subscription. You can’t “lock” people in here. If you want to keep them, you need to listen to them.
I have read so many good posts on things that should be considered. Funny though, how the posts that make complete sense and not only tell you the problem, but offer you ideas to fix it – get deleted.
If this is what AN is all about, let us know now. We have better places to spend our money with.
Thief = yes. Mesmers, not sure yet.
l2p issue? Maybe you should actually play the game?
Feel free to find the video on this forum featuring a thief and it’s complete OP BS. The guy resets all his traits and only selects the crit category. Yes, only the crit category. Also, he only has 3 skills on his bar and doesn’t even touch the utility skills.
L2P issue….. w/e.
Found it for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPL3_uEyGM
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I don’t believe a word of what was spouted off in the OP. I can show you right now where there are at least SIX botters that have all been reported, all weekend long. These guys’ accounts should not only be removed, but all transactions from players/trader be reversed.
The state of this game in regards to botting is some of the worse I have seen. You can use your words, but I don’t see you stopping any botters. All it takes is a human to log on the game and go look. This isn’t rocket science.
The game is made to be played 24/7. Yet, the support behind it doesn’t support it 24/7.
I’m having a hard time accepting the fact that “My personal” story isn’t a personal story. This really makes absolutely no sense at all.
BTW: The reward for the quest prior to Victory or Death is pure rubbish. I’m glad you have cross server stuff working, it seems. Because people are going to need it after so many others leave the game.
I tried all of the suggestions everyone has said, and I even changed my build a few times, used different weapon combos, etc. Still can’t beat it. I can’t even get past the Risen Abomination at the door.
You can’t kill the mobs in front of the cave? That isn’t a quest bug.
This happened to me as well. Basically to fix them just standing around and not willing to proceed, just turn around and go kill one of the mobs in the field right behind you. That is all.
Enjoy!
lol fine sharp tell me what other class gets that much burst from one button…still waiting
Nothing about the way you died was one button.
Hmmm. Too bad you don’t know about the youtube video going around that shows a thief dominating everyone and never needing to use 2, 3, 4, and sometimes the 5 skill on his bar.
So yeah, 1 button is all it really takes.
Clarification.
I think the bottom line here is that the classes that are “supposed” to be melee, have way too much burst damage and a plethora of ways to close in on a ranged only character. Cast times are way too long to do anything efficiently. When someone can be invisible and drop 50% hp on a full toughness Ele, there is a problem. The only class that should have burst damage to that extent should be the casters. This kitten isn’t rocket science. How did this game mess it up so bad, so fast? Dunno.
You are forcing an Ele to be able to switch elements nonstop on the fly while melee can smash their faces on the keyboard and be just as effective. Poorly designed.
My ele can’t get any more “toughness” than it has and a thief can take 50% of my hp down instantly. Their class is a pure joke and I am surprised they aren’t flooding the fields more than they are now.
Do ele’s need a buff? Yes. Even going glass cannon we can be out dps’d.