Guild Wars 2

PvP has many issues in this game. It will not get better until the people playing the classes causing the problems become honest. For example, there are certain things that make a game pure crap…

1. Over use of Crowd control— even WoW was smart enough to put in reductions to prevent back to back to back……. cc’d.

2. Stealth — stealth in any game is an instant red flag for a crap design. BTW, it is STEALTH. The kitten character is still there. No way in hell a stealth character should just mosey on through all the marks all over the ground…. NO WAY! You also should not be able to stealth in combat as often as it is allowed. Again, even WoW was smart enough to work with that.

3. Melee damage — you really think melee is on par with what non melee can do? Like, necro? I ran 32k HP, and it was gone under 1/2 second. Attempting to CC any melee char is a waste of time. All of them have an instant gap closer and cc to wtfpwn you in under 1/2 second.

So there. Those are my opinions as to why the pvp is screwed up in GW2. Many will bash those opinions. But, then will be back in a few weeks/months crying about the same stuff.

esport…. lol, OK.

Bad at math here.

How do you guys figure out what is the best option to get extra things like bag space and bank space and character slots?

For example, right now I can get:

100 gems per 3g 21s
or
25.00 for 2000 gem card @ amazon
or
10.00 for 800 gems, 20.00 for 1600 gems, 35.00 for 2800 gems.
or
60g for 1938 gems

I really am lost when it comes to figuring this stuff out.

LF necro advice on this guy.

Also, more often than not he will be right smack on a green one, not setting it off.

I am not getting credit for even entering the event. I received initial credit, then it disappeared.

Now, I have no credit for doing this event.

Arrow cart range – is this a joke? did someone mess up and you haven’t fixed it yet? The range is way too long for this.

Pet range – The pet range is out of control too. Suggest looking at this and fixing.

Stealth – Any game with any type of stealth allowed is a recipe for disaster. Nothing new here. Everyone knows this. Re-evaluate and fix it. At the very minimum, remove the ability to stealth while in combat. You know, I believe WoW was even aware of this.

Melee – too many ways to close the gap to plow others over with the OP melee damage. either fix the ways to close in, or reduce the melee damage.

Save builds – you know, like in GW1. Reusable code….been a practice now for over 20 years. Recommend keeping up with the standards.

Kravick.4906:

Zatria.5783:

That’s cool. I’m just saying, talking out of both sides of the mouth isn’t going to convince anyone. You can’t blame it on lack of studying and advise people to do more of it…then tell them you are actually using someone else’s build.

that’s all I was saying.

I completely understand why he doesn’t want to make the build public. ANet doesn’t want necros to be bunkers, at all, ever, after what happened in beta. I’m pretty sure if this build became public knowledge it would get nerfed into the ground and take what little functional traits we have with it.

That’s nice. But that really has absolutely nothing to do with what I am saying.

Kravick.4906:

Zatria.5783:

You can’t blame them can you? You mention some of this is due to lack of theory crafting and advise people to experiment on their own, yet you use SOMEONE ELSE’S build.

And of course, there is your name. :P

Please make a video.

I’ve personally seen the build in action. It definitely is more tanky than the well known minion bunker build.

That’s cool. I’m just saying, talking out of both sides of the mouth isn’t going to convince anyone. You can’t blame it on lack of studying and advise people to do more of it…then tell them you are actually using someone else’s build.

that’s all I was saying.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

As stated, don’t believe me, I’ll gladly demonstrate. I showed the build to someone last night from here.

You can’t blame them can you? You mention some of this is due to lack of theory crafting and advise people to experiment on their own, yet you use SOMEONE ELSE’S build.

And of course, there is your name. :P

Please make a video.

Someone slap up a summary to that hogwash please? I had to stop after the third time of seeing “where” vs “were”. It just makes me think the OP has no clue WTH is going on in this game, or life in general.

So, Five days ago a GW2 tech support rep requested people provide further information. Since then, people have provided this information and the rep has not responded…..

F I V E

days ago. There is a problem here.

War Mourner.5168:

look at the skill list and look at the cast times. Individually it’s not a problem (except focus 5 which truly does have an excessive cast no matter how you look at it), it’s just that across the board we seem to hard a higher average cast time then most, with so many 3/4 and 1s cast skills, that it makes us play a bit sluggishly.

Pretty cool how other classes can hit you a zillion times in melee before you can get most casts off, huh?

Hmmm. Looks like they broke the only fun thing about this class. While the post is here….. epidemic should never miss either. Since the cast times for this class are so stupidly long, if the spell is cast while they are in range, it should only miss on the rare occasion. You know, like getting mele’d 500000000 times before we finish a cast, and each of those rarely misses.

I don’t remember the last time I logged into the game. I don’t remember the last time I logged onto this forum. I come here an lurk about once week or so. Reading through this post, I had to comment.

I believe ANet should hire the OP as a consultant. I completely agree with just about everything he said.

Oda.2348:

A good solution to this would be to give players on their home server priority to the main instances, and force ‘guesters’ into the overflow.

I like this idea. Regardless who was there first, if a homey comes online the guest should be kicked to make room.

If servers have the right to post recruitment style threads (which they should), then other servers should have the right to refute any claims the recruiting server makes. All is fair in the game of war, right?

ghtchill.7613:

please ignore the misguided, self serving opinions of a few malcontent individuals from certain other servers.

Using the above quote as an example, calling other people names and trying to start a flame war shouldn’t be an allowed tactic. Frankly, I’m surprised ANet hasn’t removed that post yet. They seem to be about as consistent as a NBA referee.

Regardless, state your claims and future dreams for your servers! But be prepared to have those claims challenged.

Have fun!

All WvW is, is a numbers game. This requires ZERO skill and ZERO organization. Just follow the blue icon on your map and zerg through everything. It really gets old on both sides, the winning and the losing.

This week we seem to be at a tier where the numbers vs. us are far more than we can pull together in 3 days, let alone one evening. The fights that are more balanced in numbers are very good fights and worthy of running all the way back to get back in to.

Unfortunately this isn’t always the case. WvW has become nothing more than who has more online, wins.

This will not get fixed or even thought about until more people complain about it. This needs attention and quickly. There is nothing more to this game. WvW is really it. Even the PvErs are leaving. On my server no one really does spvp/tpvp. Fix it.

Draygo.9473:

Ubi, ill give you a hint, golems wasnt the first thing they have banned from WvW use, this is probably next on the docket now that anet is aware of the issues with this item.

The game is HUGE, let me ask you, name every single consumeable in this thread right now, and what it does.

Cant do it?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Consumable

Have a video handy from WvW? I would really enjoy watching this build.

roamzero.9486:

Looks-wise Id go with Sylvari, but Asura Necromancers get pain inverter, which in WvW is a great 1 button anti-thief/ele/allround defense mechanism.

This is all you need to know on this topic. I would change my Sylvari in a heartbeat to to Asura (and I think they look extremely stupid). Being so small is a great advantage in WvW, and he already mentioned the huge racial ability.

I agree. The servers are finally finding their right spot on the ladder. We should see much closer scores, at least until is gets ruined and everyone starts over again. Then it will be back to Server 1: 400,000 Server 2: 125,000 Server 3: 99,000.

Nice video. Awesome that your dot damage does more damage than most Necro’s does. You survivability is pretty awesome too. Was weird how when you were fighting multiple players that they rarely seem to cc you.

Nice timing huh?

Now you can pay money to transfer.

Videos or it didn’t happen.

What is whingeing?

Yeah. I think they really screwed things up on this one. Play as you want? Not here. I log on to knock out some dailies and mess around in WvW. I don’t care for dungeons and was ready to give up on the game when they instituted the treadmill items being only attainable via dungeons. And, since they are available to use during WvW, well that kitten me off.

I have crafting maxed in the areas I want it in. I don’t need crafted items today.
Combo Killer? Really?

Monoman.2068:

Bas.7406:

What’s Cliff Diving?

Jumping off a cliff and then hitting spectral walk twice just before hitting the bottom to take none or minimal fall damage. I use death shroud as a backup if I somehow screwed up.

LOL, Wow. I’m going to practice this.

Yeah, that is pretty bad.

How old is D2, 20 years or so? I dunno, but that game had better minion control than what your video shows for GW2.

Dhampyr.2104:

Besides, is there anything at all new or original in the post you’re responding to? We’ve seen all of that hooey over the past month or so. Nothing new, yawn.

And you still haven’t accepted the fact that what you have been hearing for a month is true or not? It’s all numbers. You have yet to use one tactical move in the battles I have seen. Carry on to your next tier. You will find where you belong eventually. But, doing it the way it has been done is pure crap.

“Hey, let’s all move down to an extremely low tiered server with our upper tier guilds. It will be fun to steam roll our way back up to the top.”

“Hey that sounds fun. Then when everyone catches on, we’ll deny it and claim even though we alone out number both are competitors, we’ll claim skill.”

Most games would call this griefing. Here, we call this skill.

StormWolf.7645:

Pinko.2076:

Why were they surprised? What result is surprising when you put a server with 4 queued maps against anyone in t8-t4?

Apparently because they weren’t expecting us to go this far. Or don’t you remember all the “They’ll get blown away in the next Tier.” “Don’t worry, we’ll crush them soon!” etc., etc.? I get that Kaineng has a lot of growing to do, but we have the time and patience to do that growing, whatever others think of us.

Pinko.2076:

I spent a week on kaineng when WM transferred, and my impression was the same as some of the DR in this thread: the overall populace of your NA crowd is really, really terrible at PvP and have no clue what they’re doing in WvW. It really felt like I stepped back in time to month 1 and people just ran at the next visible enemy holding with no purpose or reason.

If you spent a week on Kaineng, then you saw the constant score of 600+. When people play well, it’s often because they have a goal or something they are playing for, it is what pushes people to be their best. When you risk nothing from losing, then losing ceases to be an incentive to win.

The point: No one has yet seen what Kaineng is truly capable of, because thus far every week has been a blow-out. When the fights are even and we HAVE to fight and fight well to win…THEN we will see the quality of the Kaineng people. Until then it’s all conjecture.

Everyone HAS seen what Kaineng is made of. When the numbers are fairly even, you get pushed back and rolled over. When you have more than 2x more players than your enemy, you win. This is no big secret. We have all had enough battles to know exactly what type of server Kaineng is, over populated for the tiers it has been in. There is very little skill in anything you guys do. Zerg, zerg, and zerg.

Winning by shear numbers, is that what your goal is? Good. You have succeeded. You have not won one battle I have witnessed where we had within a 10 count of your total. Not one.

I have a feeling Mags is going to show you for who you really are, unorganized and non-skilled.

Parsee Komeiji.2049:

salluks.6017:

I never understood " server pride". U do realise its only a name for a piece of hardware right?

To be fair, states are really only chunks of land which certain groups of people have claimed as their own through nothing more than brute force; furthermore, your homeland is determined mostly by chance, while your home server is entire up to you.

You know, you may have had something good to say, I don’t know. I stopped at the above. You really think the states were “claimed” through brute force? Sorry, but that is sad. I can assure you one thing for certain. Each state didn’t run out and have a battle to mark the boundaries.

As for server transfers, I agree with what someone mentioned above. Just let the bandwagoners finish their trek to the top, and merge the remaining servers.

Ratphink.4751:

All I want, all I yearn for, plead, beg, ask, demand, call for is that people start posting intelligently.

Have a complaint about the class. Use the search tool. Find an existing topic. If one doesn’t exist, THEN make a new topic about it. If one does exist, then bring it back to the front page.

Lastly ‘This class sux’, ‘This class is borked’, ‘CALLING OUT ANET’, ’I’m quitting the game’ are unconstructive posts that do nothing for this forum or this class.

Lets take the Original Post since we’re here.

And what makes you so much better than anyone else on this board? Nothing, your mommy lied to you. If you don’t like it here, you can always leave.

BTW, do you know what a picket line is? Do you think they have 100 people picketing, all with a different complaint? Of course they don’t. If one person complains, chances are huge (especially for a gaming company) that is goes unnoticed. If you get a mass of people complaining about the same topics, guess what? It has a far greater chance of not only being noticed, but acted upon. You may not like that they came to this board vs. an individual thread of this board, but that isn’t your decision. Picketers don’t go to an individuals office, they protest the main entrance. I don’t know if that analogy works for you, but my steaks are about done, so I am done here.

Again, if you don’t like it here – leave.

OP, I agree there are many things that still need to be fixed with this class. I don’t know if it is more troubling that there are so many things that need to be fixed still, or that there is little to no communication regarding the fixes being worked.

The main time I see a huge disparity in classes is during pvp. Classes getting cc’d til death does them in, isn’t really fun. And for some reason, even with the cc breaking skills we have, it still happens very frequently. Our class benefits from a lot of HP, but melee players benefit from huge DPS.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Zatria.5783:

That signet is a waste of a skill slot. Sure, it’s nice for travel. But as soon as something agros on you, it’s gone. It’s useless in WvW during battle. Waste of slot. Their way of ‘buffing’ it, made it junk. Good luck on being efficient and switching it out prior to a fight. And if you end up having to run from a battle, forget it.

Not sure where you’re getting this, but that signet keeps working even while in combat. Everyone slows down significantly in combat. The extra speed you get from that signet can very easily make the difference between kiting and being kited.

This was the link provided:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Movement_speed

It seems across the board.

Regardless, mine slows down pretty drastically if I agro a mob.

I agree with the OP and the others posting here. Necros are an attrition class, as per ANet. An attrition class that is tossed in with every other class that can finish fights extremely quickly, as per poor pvp design.

I often wonder what the purpose was behind a 100 tick dmg vs. your enemy with 15-30k HP. Really? Let’s assume the odds are in your favor and for some bazaar reason all of the planets are aligned and hell has frozen over, that they have no way to cleanse or stealth away the condition you put on them. 100 tick damage (around there) will take forever to drop someone, even AFK.

Sure there are other means of damage, but I am specifically talking about the tick damage.

Cerbeius.7129:

As far as I know, it does work in combat. Just remember it’s only your forward speed that goes from 300 u/s to 210 u/s. With the Signet on, your forward speed would be 375 u/s and 262,5 u/s.
The strafing and backwards speed always stay the same (but ofc with the buff applied).

It doesn’t. The buff still says it’s on, but it doesn’t. Just run through and agro some mobs somewhere. Your speed will drop to normal running.

@Lopez

Great guide. I like it a lot!

From the guide, “Maximizing range is one of the reasons I strongly recommend Signet of the Locust. Being able to move in and out of a fight becomes a lot easier with 25 percent extra run speed. There have been quite a few situations in which I’ve barely escaped or killed someone only to realize it was only possible because I’m running a lot faster”

This passive does not work while in combat. A different thread provided the link that explains it, however I can’t find it atm.

That signet is a waste of a skill slot. Sure, it’s nice for travel. But as soon as something agros on you, it’s gone. It’s useless in WvW during battle. Waste of slot. Their way of ‘buffing’ it, made it junk. Good luck on being efficient and switching it out prior to a fight. And if you end up having to run from a battle, forget it.

MikeFerguson.8921:

Sure, I’ll spill dome details!

DonRobeez.3560:

- How many players can one map contain?

As many as we can fit without causing too much stress on the servers. We can’t be more specific than that, but I can assure everyone that the cap is definitely split equally between all three worlds.

We have heard multiple reports for months about people being queued for a map and entering it only to have the outmanned buff, but unfortunately we’ve never been able to verify ways that could be occurring. I’m not saying it isn’t happening, but we haven’t ever been able to reproduce the problem, and if we can’t reproduce the core problem, it makes it basically impossible for us to find and fix the bug

Sorry. I don’t believe a word of this. There is no doubt a ‘number’ for the server. The only question is if it is spread equally among the 3 teams. My guess is no. Rumor is, it is around 166 per team – if it is spread evenly. However, after tonight I don’t think it is. Our opponent had masses and masses of players while we had under 60 total. The funny thing is, we had a que. None of our guys could join.

CHIPS.6018:

Zatria.5783:

Is Khilbron the best necro set?

I’m unfamiliar with fractal stuff, but are there armors obtained from there? If so, why spend so much for the Khilbron?

Also, why not just get the karma precision/toughness/condition damage?

I prefer Apothecary.

Since I’m pretty sure tick damage doesn’t crit, not sure why go with precision. So, healing makes sense too.

OP has some nice gear on, nonetheless.

Edit: “precision,toughness and condition weps” Only thing I come up with on this is something called Rabid, which the wiki pretty much has little information on, other than that prefix is only obtainable from Mystic Forge and Dungeon. Don’t know if they mean dungeon loot or saving something up for it.

LanceKing.3017:

Zatria.5783:

Is Khilbron the best necro set?

I’m unfamiliar with fractal stuff, but are there armors obtained from there? If so, why spend so much for the Khilbron?

Also, why not just get the karma precision/toughness/condition damage?

Khilbron is the best set for condition necro imo. you can get up to 1700 condition dmg with the condition build. Use it right and and you can see people drop like flies in WvWvW
there are no armors that can be obtained from Fractal atm, but maybe in the future when they release ascended armors

what do you mean karma precision/toughness/condition damage?

When i was getting my karma pvt set, I accidentally purchased leggings that have the exact same stats as the khilbron’s. 48 precision / 48 vitality / 67 toughness. You just fill the rune in.

Is Khilbron the best necro set?

I’m unfamiliar with fractal stuff, but are there armors obtained from there? If so, why spend so much for the Khilbron?

Also, why not just get the karma precision/toughness/condition damage?

I personally think the only ones that should be allowed to use a portal, are those in the mesmer’s party. So, feel good with 20.

EnRohbi.2187:

Tynan.6279:

EnRohbi.2187:

Valtrex.2895:

EnRohbi.2187:

Gorefiend.9675:

Furey.6734:

I disagree. I think DB NA prime is Tier 4. Maybe not the top of tier 4 but we are there. Without complaining, our NA crew is being focused by both of the other servers else we would be shooting up the tier alot faster. This is fine and I encourage it since I think DB should stay in tier 4 a while before moving up allowing our NA prime player base to build up and get stronger. Either way, we are here to stay in the tier this time.

DB NA team is nowhere near t4 quality. At best I would put it at mid t5.

Maybe your night crew is no where near t4 quality.
What about that?

I don’t know what scores you’ve been looking at,
But we’ve been holding our lead pretty long into the day and when we do lose it, we do not get very far behind.

You can make yourself feel better all you want by crying about our Asian population,
But at the end of the day it’s only an excuse for why you aren’t winning in cumulative points right now.

It’s not an excuse… It’s a fact.
If a server can hold +500 ticks in off hrs, at T2-5 then yeah.

No clue why your so defensive about it, during the day DB holds around 120-170ish ticks till prime time.
While other two servers are at war holding 240-350ish PPT swings.

Once again, whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better
You can’t even hold +500 ticks during our off hours, so how do you consider yourself any better?

Hahaha… You guys really are this fooled aren’t you? Your comment sums up your understanding! You are going against 2 NA prime servers, which equals zero resistance so you tick at 500 for 7 hours during your prime. EB and Yak,s have to fight each other giving them 250-350 point swing tick during their prime! So I think your comment really applies to yourself more accurately!

We’re not still on this, are we?
I’ve moved on.

Every server has their strong time.
Ours do not sync up with yours; it is the fault of none of our three servers.

I agree, it’s noone’s fault, personally. But the complaint is still valid. It would be the same if EB and DB were over night powered, with YB the solo daytime powerhouse. YB would be leading in points.

I think the reason this comes up is because of some kitteny attitudes a few DB players may have on this board. They fail in simple math and can’t seem to understand this has absolutely zero to do with skill compared to a solo time slot. The day time action is filled with YB and EB fighting each other along with a “fairly” decent showing of DB.

Really, it really is simple math here people.

To me, all bosses equate to tank and spank. All of them that I have fought so far.

1. Remove stealth while in combat
2. Nerf all melee damage by 50%
3. Allow different colors for each and every commander icon.

I can’t just do 3.

4. badges should be automatically looted.
5. Something needs to be done with char names. I’m not sure what, but I am sure it is a hell of a mess seeing a million red/green char names on your screen…. especially dead ones.

While hovering over some of the map locations, the tooltip does not update, or sometimes just flat out provides inaccurate information. This is only one example. Sometimes, hovering over Dredgehaunt Cliffs will result in Lion’s Arch and others as well.

It really is a simple solution. Remove stealth from all characters. Make them actually learn to play the game and their character.

While you’re at it, put a kitten range on people’s pets or just remove them too.

Uh Oh!!! I’m in trouble. This 20 man group is going to kill me. Yep I have 100 hp left.

I’ll just stealth and get away.

I call BS on stealth.

rush.1492:

Dear Ehmry Bay……..

Well played my friends…. Well played…. I have gained a lot of respect this night for you. Not that you need it or anything. But you have shown a huge improvement in defense in your BL. It took forever to take your west keep. At the same time while you were defending East keep by the huge numbers of yaks, and also defending garrison from a golem rush. Bravo gentlemen… There is so much you can do when 2 servers are hitting you hard… and you have defended like a boss. Many other servers would never have defended like you did. Good stuff…

Thanks. We (I), had a good time. I actually feel bad for writing what I am going to below, but to the guys earlier spouting off…..

What are you smoking? I think Yaks and Mag are no doubt in bed together. Coming from members from both sides of your servers though, they both think the other guild is the one on top while in that bed.

Take tonight for example, you have one server hitting the west side of EB while the other server pushed the other side. Don’t be so ignorant, or a liar, as to what is going on. Bottom line is both Yaks and Mag can’t do squat without each others assistance. You have proven tonight, you barely do that – even.

So Yaks and Mags, who’s on the bottom of you two?

Well? Will someone from this company comment on this? It really is a pain in the kitten to restart the client during WvW matches.

Everything starts fine, then after a bit of playing it inevitably happens. Now, I also run another monitor where I will be using youtube or streaming a sport game or something. I don’t know if this is related or not, just sayin’.

Another issue that still hasn’t been fixed. It happens to me daily.

Cast times are way too long with staff. By the time you cast a mark, the melee guy next to you just hit you 5 times or the guy with the bow just shot you 7 times.