agree they should deliver it to you. also the only one with a good item is the siamoth. I’d like to have the things they find revamped too. they could change them to things we actually want like the mesmer ecto etc.
that being said it won’t happen because anet wants us to buy the expansion but jokes on them because I’m still not going to.
Uh… have you USED the other pigs? All the items are great (especially the skull if it didn’t have a kittening 2 minute CD). In fact, i’d say the siamoth is probably the one with the worst items.
Uh, the siamoth has the ecto tho.
Siamoth is the best Support items , though a lot of team mates in pvp wise are totaly in the tunnel vison to even relise the feathers or the plasma .
i have to regularly tell my guild mates to pick up and use the plasma/feathers when i use the f2 in a safe location.
i really do love it when a thief eats a Egg from the Pig and does a Back stab combo picks up and eats followed by onther set of damage combos it even gives the thief a huge boost in INT to SB away or quickly repostion for a second attack/ kill attempt.
which i find odd again , A lot of thiefs don’t even know what the Egg does.
thought i disagree with us Reciving the item like a Steal it can take away from group use like i mentioned above .
it should just be a
" the opposing team Can’t see the name tag of the item or pick it up " then update the pigs to reflect the HoT changes because 1 bleed is lame , that should really be 3 bleeds.
The weakness of the pet is the forage itself, picking up items serve as an opening for enemies to attack you.
So I suggested forage replaces f2 with current item. For the team support, Maybe each item you get serves as a buff for party members like or something like mini thief venoms or even auras.
well that comes down to design vs convince ,the current way allows anyone to use the items which people ignore and don’t even know the benifits because it can be picked up by opposing players and seen by them too as you pointed it , it becomes a point of focus . (if they can not see or Pick up the item it solves that issue) but then it removes its counter play.
the items pigs give currently will be too strong for the convince of having it slotted auto to the pets f2 ready for use so most of the item abilities will need to be ether toned down and moved to a more AoE type of item use which some already are only the warthog has single target items like >Bone.1 , rock , and 1 AoE skull fear the question here would be when Druid comes out too with the Daze druid + this pet f2 mechanic it leads to a consistant chain of CC’s plus once every pet cooldown means Stun lock/CC chains, which is very strong for a HP sustain play style.
so pigs need ether 2 of these 3 things.
1. Hidden from Foes
2. HoT update
3. the pet brings the item back to you and puts it on the ground , or make the Pet f2 forage a Ground targeted attack so you choose where the item spawns.
solves all the issues with placement , team use , and the hard counter of foes using it as a focus point (even though i think its fine as the items last for a long while on the field before they disappear , and if its hidden from foes in the first place that removes the item becomming a focus point but with the item still needing to be picked up , it will require the ranger to play smart still)
as to why i said 2 of these 3 choices. to avoid too much convince for stong effects as the condi items use the rangers stats and so does the Bone on the direct damage items, having it on f2 slot makes it more powerful than the thiefs mechanics rewards as we don’t need a target to use the ability .
if its realy needed all Pig items will need a full redesgin to match the play vs convince of said items and design them as drop able items so team mates could also use them.
making it a f2 slot removes it from team use so it will also again need
1. Team item design changes for all support items / ground target effects
2. items made droppable and only disappear on use, like a timer for banners or amount of charges like a Conjoured weapon 5 bone attacks ect.
How does that solve that tiny window of oppurtunity for foes when you pick up something?
" the opposing team Can’t see the name tag of the item or pick it up " from my first comment , and those other people that say there is no Team support , there is you can get the item in the f2 slot choose to use it , then drop it for a team mate to pick up use a skull fear or a Venom sac ect ether way these items act like Held items which should have the same mechanics as Conjoured items with a certain amount of charges and with a time duration .
team doesnt always mean Aoe Boons or Aoe Heals or Aoe Blinds , it also means the mechanical choice to give or let team mates use the items also and that is somthing i;d not give up because these items are Very useful if people know how to use them effectively.
the only issue i see right now is how we Obtain the item , which can become a few of the following.
1. item gets slotted into f2 , then you can choose to use and drop the item at a chosen location under your control for a team mate to pick it up .
(don’t forget the " the opposing team Can’t see the name tag of the item or pick it up ") if a opposing play can’t see or pick up the item then that solves a lot of problems , even then if the item is slotted into the f2 and held by the ranger untill he decides what to do with it , in org comps you can tell people on your ts that I have Plasma and drop it for a team mate(if they need it) or use it .
2 . if the item is not slotted into a f2 , it becomes a ground target Scavange (which then you could combine with Pig charge so it charges to the location of the Scavange?
3 . these things won’t work unless the Opposing teams access to your items are limited as to slotting them in the f2 untill needed , prevents them from picking it up , but when dropped the item Becomes open to anyone Creating counter play and a very small window for that counter play as in 2. and .1 of my list makes the items control 100% the mechanical choice of the ranger to use or drop or even get the pig to Charge in a direction to the Scavange point.
the new Pig charge could change to work like the Teragriff charge with a larger hit box equal to the flesh golems.
you’d have item control, Charge control and still Viable use to allow team mates to use said items also.
the major benifit like this.
F2 command pig to charge location and Scanavge the item gets slotted to the f2 or the location (as to which foes can’t see or pick up, if ground targeted) , if F2 slotted the counter play to the item is held by the ranger so basic CC’s become counter play rather than Area denial vice versa .
so i’ve worked it down to two mechanical choices
Ground target invisible and unable to pick by foes.
or the same Ground target gets slotted to the f2 but when dropped foes can see it and pick it up.
those are the two mechanical choices.
the Pet update is basicly adding a controlable charge to the forage f2 which is ground targeted.
" no item revamps needed just Better mechanical changes" while still keeping the option to let team mates use your items.
do you see the idea now?
That aspect is not what I’m talking about however and their damage should be lowered. I just mean our traps need at least a stun breaker on them, and they should grant a little more utility. (boons, control, or bit of both)
