Guild Wars 2

No worries. I suppose the different classes have different playstyles.
You can do stupid stuff with the thief and get away with it. With the engineer: not so much.

However you should try the thief out. It doesn’t feel that complete to me. It’s SOMEWHAT of a one trick pony. It does a lot of stuff decently, but only a few things really well. The limited skill set doesn’t help.

Why should they stop it? If it’s the skill that deals the most damage in the situation (like on a target with <25% health), then it would be scrub-like to not use it.

I got stuck in the first Orr boat in the “defend claw island” story quest.
Was swimming around out in the sea when the host talked to the guy, and made the boat spawn.

Was stuck inside until it was destroyed. Actually, you always get stuck inside no matter what spawns on top of you.

Many many people moaned duing the BWE’s: “The game is too hard, the game is too hard. We will never develop any personal skill, so please make it easier”. Now it is easy, very easy, and we are all left with an empty feeling inside.

Few dynamic events?? OP, are you playing on a low pop server?

I almost feel like there are too many events. They constantly cycle the same events over and over. The player really never gets a sense of achievement when – 5 min later – the event starts again.

Hm, I don’t think the wall is that tough.
There is usually a big zerg that just popped into the zone asking “IS CLAW UP YET?”, so when the zerg arrives, the wall quickly drops.

I also like this event. It’s pretty nice and varied.

I like this zone, its supposed to be bleak. But its very very buggy.

Thrashbarg: Well, even though I have a thief, I hope they fix the Cloak and Dagger “exploit” that allows people to just skip the Shadow Arts tree – skipping the “stealth on steal”-trait.

Just fixing that would severely drop the damage output of a certain gimmicky build atm.

I know exactly what you are talking about OP. I kinda feel the same way.
I hope it will improve over time, because right now, I don’t feel much inclination towards WvW.

[EDIT]
I also feel that WvW would benefit greatly from a slower pace. I know what you mean about the players investing into siege equipment, that in the end didn’t feel like it was worth the money/tokens.

So players end up not investing in the expensive stuff – because that is a very risky investment.

Good thread. I hope they figure out how to handle night capping.

They are dead, how can they see anything?

Dont use it. The cripple effect only last 2 or 3 seconds or something. Same with bleed. It only starts stacking if the target is silly enough to stand around in it.

Kabuki & Kurow:
Hence why I said it “MIGHT” be an exploit. Neither I nor you know what ANets intentions were when they designed those skills.

Also, when I do the above “trick” it obviously works, but my character doesn’t show up as stealthed – even though he is (I can backstab while being “visible”). Another indicator that this indeed is not working as intended.

Anyway, use it all you want. To gimmicky for me.

Shortbow is a horrible weapon on thief IMO

Well a lot of glass cannon newbs sure got owned in that video.

He’s been broken on “Far Shiverpeaks” for 12+ hours now.

I’d say the solution would, in fact, be to just give the thief an actual offhand in the tutorial…

Better than developing some bizarre solution that will be on your thief forever, only to be used in the tutorial.

The CnD + Steal animation thing might be an exploit (so beware using it).
Pretty sure that is not working as intended.

Ron Cordova.9824:

A dev posted that those skills are only for the tutorial when you do not have access to an off-hand yet, they took less than an hour of development time to make (the dagger and pistol ones are just weaker versions of the D/D and P/P 3 skills, and the sword one is just the mesmer stab animation without fancy butterflies all over), and there are no plans to develop them further or bring them in line with other skill 3’s.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/I-don-t-understand-the-point-of-designing-off-hand-light-skills/first#post87577

Thanks. Didn’t find that topic when I searched for “off-hand light”.

It still annoys me. We get to look at those 3 skills for the rest of our thief lives and wonder what could have been.

And although the dev might have spent a small amount of time making that solution, it still feels like a rushed “OK we can’t think of anything else, so lets add this”.
We don’t have to put up with that kind of stuff.

obtuse.8291:

We don’t need another topic for this since we Already had a developer respond when it really was not necessary the information is fairly easy to infer from the wiki.

Ultimately there are only two cases for these skills:

1- durability, offhand breaks, to have any 3 skill this needs to exist. Weapons can take damage can they not?

2- the weapon you start with in the very first level 1 to level 2 step on a brand new thief at the very least needed a 3rd skill. Offhands upgrade slot 3 to the dual skill, that’s the concept at work and the existence of the light version serves to illustrate that when a user is looking at the weapon skills tab

1: Are you playing the same game as we are?
2: Did you even read my opening post? I covered this.

How about you supply some of this “intuitive” information?

Exactly. 3 skills wasted in a already small skill library.
I wish I had more variety – more skills to play around with. More skills means more builds.

TRON: Before embarrassing yourself further, you should try the build in the video you linked. You might be able to kill a noob or two. But a 13k HP glass cannon thief would die instantly to a lot of viable builds.

So we need a topic about the 3 thief skills

• Twisting Fangs
• Stab
• Repeater

Why in the world would ArenaNet give us three skills that we would never use?
Clarification: These 3 skills are ONLY available when you have no offhand weapon equipped. Who in their right mind would sacrifice their offhand to get one of these three mediocre skills?

Maybe you can use it as an off-spec, swap it in, and then use it? No you can’t. When no offhand is equipped, the offspec’s offhand counts as your offhand instead. So if you have Dagger/Nothing in one spec, and Pistol/Pistol in the other, your first spec will be Dagger/Pistol.

Are these skills made so the beginner thief who hasn’t found an offhand yet, will have a third skill? Seems kinda wasteful doesn’t it? 3 skills to be used in the short trip to the weapons merchant who sells white level 1 weapons.

So tell me, why do we have these skills? Did a class designer think it would be a good idea? If so, whats the reasoning behind it?

Nope, its just a stupid description of a stupid mechanic. It means “no off-hand”.
So just equip the dagger and nothing else… yeah, you don’t need skills 4 and 5 right? right…

Noppy.1348:

Had a similar thing happening. Was at a cementery at night and there was this lady who was looking for somebody to escort here home. I did the gentle man thing and accepted the escort. When we came to the gates off the cementery, she turn violent and became a mob to attack. Never saw that coming! Gave some nice loot also

Shaemoor cemetary – Lady in White huh?
I was looking for that event for a while, had talked to the Priest of Grenth who, at day, is in one of the crypt doorways. He said there was a restless ghost around at night. So I’ve been at that cemetary 10 nights in a row trying to find her… finally did!

They are swamped with bug reports.
Just check this forum, 147 pages worth – sure some are duplicates, but most arent.

Maybe cosmetics just isnt a priority right now.

It’s bugged on Far Shiverpeaks too.
Dunno how it happened, wasn’t there.

Currently there is no visible dragon, but the event is ongoing.

Ceallach.8740:

It would most likely be a TOS-type violation not because it’s another computer, but because you’d be giving your account information to someone else.

Like someone else said, just invite him over. That’d still be a “grey area”, but it’s not like they’d be watching you in your house if he just happened to take over the keyboard.

I wouldn’t give a friend full access to my account (think you need that to even download the client in the first place), even if I really liked them. :P

Another risk to giving your account info is that you might both try to accidentally log on at the same time. You don’t realise he’s playing or still playing and you try to – your account could get frozen, especially with 3rd parties being hacked and people losing control of their accounts because of that.

<sarcasm>Yeah it would be impossible to let a friend play it, without giving out your account info</sarcasm>
^_^

Most people don’t realize how percentages are calculated/manipulated.

Crothen.2687:

If you havent realized its too much for anyone and it comes with flaws.

For one it goes against arenanets no grinding policy

It requires a reward gained from 100% map completion, which if people already have 100% map completion they wont get.

Its absolute bullsht to grind that much for a weapon that looks different

The entitlement is strong in this one.

So I was hanging out in some Norn area, came by some kids who were arguing about how stupid the Grawl were. One of the Norn kids was boasting about how he could easily beat one of these lowly Grawl.

I was with a friend at the time – on teamspeak – and I told him: “Hey, I bet this will turn into an event shortly”.
My friend was impatient and answered: “Nah, come on, lets move on, it’s just kids talking”.
I insisted we stayed, and almost immediately the bragging Norn kid ran down among all the Grawl and punched one of them, spurting something along the lines of “Haha, I’m not afraid of you!”. However the Grawl talked back: “Ahh, you will make an excellent sacrifice!”.

And thus the Norn kid got trapped in a magical bubble, more Grawl appeared around him, and started some kind of ritual, and thus began an event to save the kid.

“Huh, that really did turn into an event” my friend said.

So stay and while, and listen. You might see something cool that people usually miss.

Its actually a plus that people only portal when they truely need it. The world is more alive with people that way. Imagine how abandoned it would seem if everyone just gated everywhere.

World events are stupidly easy. I mostly only do them for the karma, because the challenge is not present. Mostly people “perceive” a challenge when the boss takes long to kill. Which is why a lot of events seem to only scale the boss’ HP up. Bosses should unlock more mechanics when they scale, but I can forgive the fact that they dont: ANet doesn’t have an infinite budget or time. I’m hoping they add it later.

But I digress…

Dungeons are meant to be a slow crawl to your own personal skill perfection.
A segment of AC on explorable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q4j7Db5hHY

You keep your money by not dying and not fast traveling too much.

As a level 80, I try to run around as much as possible to avoid the fees.

Because you are a thief. You get a one shot skill from your target.

choban.9027:

Ele is my main PvP character, and i’m very happy with it. I’m now rank 24, and 90% of all sPvP matches were with ele. Yep, it’s hard, but it is supposed to be this way. Ele is maybe the hardest class to play in GW2. It’s challenging, but after some tome, when you develop good skill rotation, ele kicks * and you can stay alive for quite some time.

About crits…I’ve managed to crit up to 8k with fire grab on debuffed target, but it was an glass canon build. Even with some mid builds there were some nice crits popping up, and massive burning/bleeding damage.

Only things that I would like to see are in combat weapon swapping for ele, and some useful interrupt skill when downed (like all other classes have).

Maybe some of the “despair” would stop if you could post a video of a spvp match, or something.

“Men seem increasingly frightened of the idea that women can enjoy an mmo, too”.

Err no we don’t. ^^

Ivonbeton: You do realize that you have 2 weapon specs right?
Still, I never did have a need to interrupt anything in PvE. Too easy.

And bosses can’t be interrupted.

Mine miss too.
There is no explanation anywhere why it would do that.

It misses on random occations at all kinds of mobs.

Server: Far Shiverpeaks

See screenshot for bugged event.
Date: 17/09-2012 – 00:10

Most events (80% – 90%) in this zone gets stuck.
Can you please prioritize this ANet?

Pretty sure ANet is gathering statistics about the various classes, how they perform and such. When they have enough data, we’ll see more buff/nerfs across the classes. Pretty sure the warrior will get nerfed slightly.

Always assumed it was made the way it was made to avoid players “breaking out” of the box the level designer has place upon the player.

We could go everywhere unintended if we would just teleport to where to arrow landed.

Agree that an AoE ability would be nice..

Nerf was justified. As a thief myself, I always cringe when I see fellow thieves just press 2222222222.

Just go D/D. I’ve used that from 1-80.
Be mobile, use poison and cripple.

Not much “infiltration” over the “Infiltrators Arrow” atm.

I don’t have a charr, and it is still hilarious to me.

I guess it will stay hilarious if I don’t make one then…

Hey Leatherworkers, does this sound familiar:
“Did you see what she was wearing? No I was busy looking at him!!”

“rages”
“kills puppies, bunnies, kittens”

I hope they tone it down. And make more varied dialoge.

Now that we are talking about annoying sounds, make a human male and then do /dance

Norn female is horribly voiced. The human male is not great either.
It’s a shame, because there are a lot of excellent voice actors in the game.