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HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]

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Relax everyone. The marketing/sales team is currently in the board room, attending the emergency meeting to present their plan on how to repair relations with their existing player base and the CEO is deciding when to announce the ‘shakeup’ in their marketing/sales team.

The sad/scary thing is there were a whole team of profession people who looked at these pricing options and went: “They’re gonna love this.”

As a Main WvW Player Why Should I Buy HoT??

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Right now I’d say you need to consider if Guild Halls and Elite Specs are worth it. (Maybe masteries? I doubt there will be WvW specific ones, but things like Legendary Crafting might appeal to you.)

Lets found a solution together

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The problem with just throwing on a character slot to the Basic pack is that then you’re devaluing the middle pack option, which has one included. (And the other goodies are just not worth $25.)

They need to either:
- Give BOTH the Standard and the Deluxe versions gems equal to a character slot
- Make the expansion and the core game 2 separate codes, so that we actually get what is stated (HoT and a free copy of the core game)

HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]

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I don’t want a second account of the base game, but if that’s what I’m paying for (says so right in the description: core game included), then they should give 2 codes (base+expansion).

No matter how people spin this, ANET messed up big time for existing players.

HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]

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Not to mention the core game went on sale not that long ago. Those new players who bought it then are getting shafted the most. “Thanks for buying, now here’s the expansion when you could have gotten the core for free. Laff.”

Even ANET recognizes it was a kitten move to do this if reddit posts are to be believed.

HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]

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I wouldn’t.
However, knowing that new players are getting the core game for free now makes the $50 price to vets a little high. It definitely feels like less of a value for existing players and not a good incentive for returning players.

HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]

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The price literally is not the issue. It’s the lack of option for existing players.

HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]

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I would have paid $50 for the expansion, even without extra character slot. No questions asked.

Seeing the base game added “free” with no options for just HoT price makes me reconsider buying.

HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]

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I don’t want a second account. I want just HoT.

June 23 Specialization Changes

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I’m loving these new changes but I do believe healing spring should NOT be a trap!

Where does it say Healing Spring will be a trap?

Said it in the stream.

June 23 Specialization Changes

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So is Inspiring battle standard not going to include a banners range increase? Sucks they would get rid of that skill; I know people always picked it if you were going to run a banner heavy set. Used way more than the damage when summoning banner skill.

Also Quick Breathing is listed as something completely different from what they said in the stream.

Crafted Mawdrey II, why did I bother?

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Dropped 100 gold to craft it cuz my bank was getting out of control and still don’t feel gipped because it’s turning my useless bloodstone into something of value and freeing up my bank.

Not sure why OP was surprised by how it looks, there are multiple ways to see the end product before you make it.

What to do before HoT?

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I went through LS2. Now I’ve been filling my days with map completion, Fractals, SW, Teq and other World bosses, leveling an Alt, and a bit of PvP. Might work on my Ele again too, and do some WvW.

So, I'm never going to get a horde, am I?

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But if your alt got one, didn’t you technically get one?

Tomes of Knowledge

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This only affects your WvW. PvP should still all be unlocked.
You’ll get most of your Hero (skill) points leveling using the Tomes, but some additional ones will be required. If you obtain the 65 from map skill challenges now, you shouldn’t need to do it when the change hits.

Question on Ventari's Tablet?

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Mac is still in Beta. It’s obviously a Windows Surface.

Wallet changes!

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I was wondering if pristine fractal relics will now be in the wallet can you still click on them to give 15 fractal relics – I have been doing this to get some quick 20 slot fractal boxes!

It sounds like they are getting rid of Pristine Relics, and converting them to just Fractal Relics.
“We’ve added more currencies to the wallet! When you log in after the update, the following items will be converted to currencies and stored in your wallet:
•Pristine Fractal Relics
•WvW Tournament Claim Tickets
•Geodes
•Bandit Crests

These items will be automatically converted to the new versions of the currencies when the character holding them logs in, so be sure to check each of your characters’ inventories.”

Which means they will probably remove the Pristine Fractal price and convert it to the Fractal Relic equivalent.

I disagree. When they say “new versions of the currency” they mean the version that goes into the wallet.

Unless they plan to rework the Fractal daily reward system. Which I extremely doubt before HoT hits, if at all.

Please let us use gliders in many maps

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This was the Beta mind you, but I was able to use the Glider in the SW section. I had deleted my first character and made another, who still had the mastery. Was idly gliding off the top of the fort waiting for meta event to start.

ArenaNet @ E3

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You were close, bravo. Except they took a break from the specializations

They could very well still announce a release date. I can’t think of a better time then now at E3 with all the press that surrounds it, and they might even get some new players to hop on board.

Release date might be optimistic. Open Beta date and Pre-order date seems more likely, but you never know.

Next week: Guild Halls!

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ANET is only going to have a portion of that time, with other big names like XBox, SquEnix and so many more. 10 – 15 minutes should be enough for us to get a first look.

Keep in mind this event is on Tuesday, while E3 runs for many more days. I expect we’ll have more detailed info the days after, or at least, Friday.

Items which should get into the Wallet too

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Absolutely don’t understand why you would change the Mist essences to currency. They are crafting materials. You already have Fractal relics AND Pristine Relics. If anything was going to be made for theoretical Fractal armor, it’d be Pristine relics.

More info?

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> info on LA rebuild completion
> Info that specs are coming soon
> Info on wallet changes
> info on condi changes
> info on movement changes
> info on tomes/scrolls/SPs/writs in prep for new system
> QoL changes in 6/9 patch and prepping for trait switch over
> info on guild halls coming

“Is that it….?”

This has been quite possibly the most news we’ve gotten in one week since the 4 hour core spec stream.

Slot skills, Hero Points&Scrolls of Knowledge

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2. Yes and no. As the 2nd post said, you will be awarded hero points based on your level. It doesn’t matter how you gained that level; either exp content or tomes. However any scrolls for skill points won’t give you hero points. You need to do some skill challenges in the map.

So right now, if you level a character to 80 via tomes, chances are you won’t have skill points for most of your skills. However, with the new system, you should have enough hero points to get most of your skills when you are 80.

What going on with Bloodstone Dust?

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Gods, I hope so. I still get a stack doing fractal runs for each tier but haven’t in a couple of days to notice.

What happens to exp when you max masteries?

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And Masteries aren’t account wide

Actually they are.
“Each Mastery point can be earned once per account … Masteries award account-wide abilities and bonuses.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/

Wow, that’s not how the beta was… or maybe it was just restricted in the beta. I hope they clarify that at some point. I kind of like the thought of journeying with all my characters, but I also like the thought that if I rolled a new one I can just pick up where I left off

I still had my mastery (gliding) even though I deleted my character in the beta and made a new one.

Same as above poster. This was latest beta.

Dont Nerf Mobility

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Cripple/Chilled GS Rush actually getting to target please.

Mystic Clovers

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Add clovers to mats bank, yes. Wallet, no.

Your Teq Hoard Decision

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I got mine over a year ago and went with the axe.

It’s a perfect skin for an undead slaying weapon, so I use it for Arah.

As for everyone choosing the greatsword… meh. I don’t like the design of ascended GS too much, and besides when I got the chest I already had Twilight back then.

I’m leaning towards Axe too, since it’s my 2nd most used weapon and the skin would be nice on Rev too, I think.

Your Teq Hoard Decision

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Other day I was finally gifted by the RNG gods with my first Teq Hoard. Now I’m stuck on which weapon to actually get. As a Warrior main, I already have an Ascended GS and I want to someday get Bolt. I love how the Shield looks but that feels like such a waste!

This raised my curiosity and I’m wondering which weapon/s people have picked who also got a hoard?

So...druid? Do we get his reveal this week?

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No. Maybe next week.

E3 is next week. Maybe in 2 weeks.

Confessions

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-Logan should have died in Arah. He’s about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

“Logan is such a brave soul for staying behind and cutting a rope, let us all elate and venerate him as an angel. He has redeemed himself.”

Really? Blowing the first big mission is suddenly wiped clean by doing the job of a red shirt or other expendable anonymous henchmen?

I hope he dies in HoT and becomes the shield aligned legend Revs can stance to.
Then again I feel bad for every Rev having him in their head.

Classes for Game of Thrones characters?

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Jaqen H’ghar — Necromancer

Maybe Revenant? :x

Classes for Game of Thrones characters?

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Jamie as Guardian? I feel his is much more GS Warrior at the start of the series, then is more Sword/Shield later on.

Daarios = Thief for sure. He is all about being quick and evasion.

Jon is a GS/LB Ranger.

Jorah would more be a Guardian I think.

Arah exploration mode - 4.5 hours long?

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I dont understand your problem OP, i just did arah with a nice group via the lfg tool and one path took us only ~20-25min

Necro suitable for an Arah thread.

Jumping puzzles: yuck

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So you blame the game because your computer is not good enough?

Getting dazed/crippled mid jump and falling in Maw/Harpy has nothing to do with rigs but it’s still annoying as kitten.

This certainly begs the question as to why you are mid-jump when getting dazed or crippled? Did they add a timer to that fractal that requires you to jump through everything ASAP?

Take each jump one at a time. Look to see if a harpy is engaging you before you actually jump. There’s really no excuse for jumping when getting dazed/crippled. You know there are monsters there that do it, so don’t jump until they are a) dead or b) engaging someone else.

I didn’t say a thing about skipping harpies. Perhaps it didn’t happen to you, but it’s totally possible to be crippled when you are moving up the stages to engage them. We need to jump to get to them so we can kill them, correct (Unless you’re an Ele and can nuke from a far range.) ? This isn’t a matter of stability. You need to save those and reflects for their knock back attack. But the cripple mid- air makes you fall like a rock. There are spots on those sections where at least 3 of them can hit you at the same time.

Jumping puzzles: yuck

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Sorry, what part of your argument is something other than challenge and being good at playing the game?

By all means, explain to me how jumping puzzle elements of Fractals is challenging content and gauges how good someone is at clearing content.

If someone is unable to get past the JP elements, then that person is not all that great at clearing all content. And clearly it is challenging content since some people have a hard time with it.

I guess I’m the minority here when told to describe challenging content and JP isn’t in the list. Should I expect HoT’s challenging group content to be group platforming levels? Are people who have to take longer than others in these parts bad because of lag/personal hinderances?

Perhaps if they didn’t port you back to the start of the section rather than where you fell I wouldn’t find them as annoying.

Jumping puzzles: yuck

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Sorry, what part of your argument is something other than challenge and being good at playing the game?

By all means, explain to me how jumping puzzle elements of Fractals is challenging content and gauges how good someone is at clearing content.

Jumping puzzles: yuck

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So you blame the game because your computer is not good enough?

I don’t see the point of them in Fractals. It doesn’t make it challenging; it makes it annoying. People with better rigs than me still fall during these parts; something as simple as a double tap causing you to roll instead of position yourself sends you flying off the edge. One misstep on Cliffside with the hammer and the whole party could need to wipe because the hammer won’t respawn.

Getting dazed/crippled mid jump and falling in Maw/Harpy has nothing to do with rigs but it’s still annoying as kitten.

Jumping puzzles: yuck

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JPs are fine for AP and chests but I HATE when they are forced under Skillpoints/Vistas and my personal hatred: Fractals. My game can be choppy at times, not to the point it makes an impact on a fight, but it makes accurate jumping or death excruciating and forces me to take so much time to make sure I don’t fall, causing me to delay everyone else.

I’ve paid Mesmers to port me to Vistas that require accurate jumping, and had Guildies port me past the jumping parts of Harpy Fractal. I’m adamant against carrying the hammer on Cliffside on the planks at the end, and I want to cry everytime we roll Jade Maw.

Ventari staff/tablet/traits from livestream

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Can Tablet be destroyed/attackable?

No i believe.

It wasn’t stated either way.

Two legends left for Rev, let's matchmake!

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Salvation is so heavily Ventari that is stands to believe each trait line is themed with a legend in mind. Roy pretty much said “The trait line for this legend…” So I believe we’re still missing 1 core legend (besides Shiro, as Glint is likely Elite).

only 1 new thing per week?

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E3 is in a couple weeks, too. We might not have a broadcast- or we might get one with lots of info they were holding off on. Fact is: No one knows.

Missing Closed Beta Invitation Compensation

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Doesn’t sound like a scam if they are only asking for character name. Did you perhaps post in the thread saying how you didn’t get into beta? They might have mistaken it that you got a portal, but no access.

no full Ventari reveal today planned?

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Revenant - 3 More Legends

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Glint really does feel “Elite” so I might guess the Shield Legend hasn’t been added yet. Rev needs another Range option though from Hammer of Staff is Melee.

The shield is what’s really throwing me for a loop. Who could the shield legend be? Glint doesn’t seem like a shield would make sense, especially since both shield skills provide a large amount of healing…

Maybe it’ll be Logan. wink wink

>logan is kil

>no

No it’s ok just let it happen.

Haha, but really I don’t have as much of an attachment to Logan as others, despite mostly having human characters. I didn’t even think of it being a possibility until posting that, but now I really hope it is. What a good twist it would be! People are already theorizing Braham is going to find Eir’s bow and take up Dragonhunter.

Rytlock and Logan have had the most turbulent relationship which finally got patched up. And Logan finally taking being committed to the cause much more seriously. He could have lost his life protecting Zojja and Rytlock realized he can summon him. It would be painful but endearing that Logan could still “fight” with the group, through Rytlock.

Ooh-!!

Revenant - 3 More Legends

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Glint really does feel “Elite” so I might guess the Shield Legend hasn’t been added yet. Rev needs another Range option though from Hammer of Staff is Melee.

The shield is what’s really throwing me for a loop. Who could the shield legend be? Glint doesn’t seem like a shield would make sense, especially since both shield skills provide a large amount of healing…

Maybe it’ll be Logan. wink wink

Revenant, weapon swap & class effectiveness.

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From what I played in the Beta, I would also like weapon swap on Revs. But I’m used to warrior and so many weapons as is..

Revenant - 3 More Legends

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Glint really does feel “Elite” so I might guess the Shield Legend hasn’t been added yet. Rev needs another Range option though from Hammer of Staff is Melee.

Revenant roleplay - hidden arcana

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Seeing a post from ANet on RP is pretty kitten ed laughable, but whatever…

>Clearly not into RP.
>Comes into an RP related Thread.

Lol ok.

I do agree the biggest problem here is that Rytlock was claimed to be, and appears to be canonly, the first Rev. If the other NPCs didn’t act so surprised or confounded by the fact that what he was doing was so new then it would be a lot easier to apply homespun backstory to Revs.

Maybe if they were surprised that he WAS a Rev now, instead of WOW NEW MAGIC I NEVER SEEN it would help a lot. Which is why I question Anet’s writing decisions since they obviously know the problems with will create but decide to go “lol whatever” anyways.

Regarding legends, admittedly I made my own headcanons for my Rev before this RP lore post, so I’m a bit more bias towards it. I’m not sure how much I like the idea of the Legends inflicting so heavily on the character, for my character anyways, I it is a fun opportunity for others.

I would think that the actual Legend resides in their realm of origin, be it the Hall of Heroes in the Rift, or Underworld dimensions, but the Rev is able to seek out the given Legend and allow some of its power (and consciousness) into them. The idea of the soul of Jalis or Ventari actually entering the mind of every single Rev at any time doesn’t appeal to me.

My Rev explained it to another character as a door (dubbed the “Braindoor” from there on out). The door doesn’t have a lock, but it can be closed or opened as the Rev pleases to invite or keep out spirits as they see fit. However, malicious spirits do wander the Mists and could try to take advantage of these people with unnatural abilities to accept spirits into them, leading them to be targets for possession. But with the training they endured, they should have the mental fortitude to keep the door closed and not broken in by passing spirits and demons.

Raids?

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I never played WoW. Is the Shiva fight in Hard Mode from FF14 Realm Reborn considered a raid? Because I liked that.