Guild Wars 2

Moonjelly.3742:

With all the claims flying around about how this pick is so much better than the others and gives an advantage I decided to do an experiment. Over the last 3 days I’ve hit 100 nodes, all regular, I skipped Rich.
Out of those 100 nodes, I got 0 extra hits of ore. Instead I got a sprocket.
Average of sprockets: 1 sprocket out of every 3 nodes.

Now let’s look at the price of copper-orcichalcum. Those ores as a single unit on the TP is at the time of writing this out:

Copper: 34c
Silver: 44c
Iron: 1s 5c
Gold: 1s 27c
Platinum: 1s 76c
Mithril: 27c
Orichalcum: 4s 85c

Price of a sprocket: 39c

So it’s clear that giving up that chance at an extra hit of ore is a general loss rather than a gain. Unless sprockets jump up to more than what Platinum is sitting at (as it’s a normal node), you aren’t getting something more than others. Granted this is just from what I have seen, but it isn’t as fantastical as people seem to think it is.

Anet never said that it was intended that you do not get any bonus ore with this pick, perhaps they are leaving this bug in place because it gets people to say “this pick isn’t better no need to complain about the free sprockets”, and when this whole thing dies down they will fix the bug and boom bonus sprockets and ore.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Septemptus.7164:

Great. Now I know why you don’t see any of my points.
You are so fixed on being offended in ANet place that you fail to see the facts.

Also you wouldn’t be fair enough to check if I was only attacking ANet. No, you will accuse me and dismiss tens of posts that I contributed in CDI (that had nothing attacking in them) to help shape future of this game with many people on this forum. Or maybe I spoke in other posts that did not criticize ANet? Well I did. You didn’t bother to check. Why? It goes well with your point of view. So I guess I can’t speak my mind when I see something wrong…
I find you the one that are very good with accusing.

Anyway I will say it again.
Giving 1 player advantage (even that lousy 1c) over those who don’t have that is P2Win. If you need it to be big and flashy and you fail to see the point to that, well…
Flippers are the richest people in GW2 and most of them earn 1-10c per item, depending what they flip. So that really means that 1c is worthless income.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1citm3/60000_uses_before_the_molten_alliance_pick_is/
“Currently it costs over 24g to buy 800 gems. The description of the pick says it’s the same as an orichalcum pick, which sell for 4s. Therefore you could buy at least 600 orichalcum picks for the same price, and at 100 uses each that comes to 60,000 uses. So extrapolating further, if you only mined for your daily, you would need to mine 7 nodes a day [7 nodes X 3 uses per node=21 uses per day] and your MA pick would be profitable in 2857 days, or 7.8 years, if you don’t mine more than that each day.”

You weren’t able to earn money on unlimited tools since it would take too much time.
Yet now you get extra 8c per node. What will be next? 10c? 20c? 1s?
How much does it have to be before you realize it is an advantage over other people?

The only fact that’s being failed to see is that GW2 is not a P2W game. Any and all your attempts to slander Anet with your interpretations of the term “P2W” go nowhere. Until you actually play a P2W game, you have no standing to use that term with GW2. And to be sure you understand this, the fact that you accuse GW2 of being P2W shows that you’ve never played any of those types of games.

I’ve already explained what a Pay 2 Win game is. You keep thinking that a 20% chance to get a few items is game breaking in some way. Here’s another fact: I make more from killing one enemy in Cursed Shores. I get a Blue Item that’s worth ~3 Silver on the TP, with a chance to get a Rare or even Exotic item. So I kill 30 Risen in CS, with a 20% chance of getting any type of drop (30 × .2 = 6 drops). The least my drops would be worth is 18 Silver, with a max of 500+ Gold if I get a Precusor. If I extrapolate those numbers, in 7.8 years, I’ll have made more money than someone using a Watchwork pick. Going further, I can safely say that killing enemies gives me an advantage over those who use a Gem Store item to mine nodes.

tl;dr – Guild Wars 2 is not a P2W game.

Guild Wars 2 wasn’t a P2W game before, but now it is, since this item gives you a clear advantage over someone who doesn’t have it. If a person with the pick and a person without the pick mine a rock the person with the pick suddenly has gained extra wealth that the one without a pick has not. He paid for the pick and he is now further ahead because of it.

Imperatora.7654:

Yeah, and nVidia should refund my graphics card because 3 weeks later they brought out a better version!

/sarcasm

um way to compare apples to hand grenades? I bet you also compare downloading music off of the internet to stealing your neighbors car?

I thought guild wars 2 wasn’t into vertical progression, and here they are making even items that cost gems feel like they are obsolete because a better item is now available.

It looks like prices are returning to normal. They went up due to everyone suddenly crafting when the skills cap changed from 4oo to 5oo.

I agree this is very unkewl

so um any response yet anywhere on the forums?

this makes a lot of sense to me, but i think since the molten pick has been around longer the molten pick should also have a chance at precursors.

i would also like a refund on my MAMP, and after I get the refund I won’t be buying these convenience items anymore since if I wait long enough a better one will come along, power creep already really?… its only been a year

the phrase “sticking your kitten in a hornets nest” comes to mind of why they would be silly to respond.

so how much ranting is needed to get a response from Anet about this P2W kitten?

WereDragon.6083:

Unfortunately this will NOT get revised the mass outcry of people demanding refunds because they bought it expecting the sprockets would be insane.

Hopefully Anet chalks this up to a fluke and doesn’t do it again.

So what, let people get refunds, its not like Anet hasn’t changed an item and suddenly had to give refunds before. When they changed the unlimited use gathering tools from soulbound to accountbound they had to do a lot of refunds.

I support this thread, this new watchwork pick is to much of a P2W item. If this new pick isn’t nerfed to be just a convenience item like the other ones I will no longer be supporting the gem store.

Also I do not like games that do the whole P2W thing, if this is the route Anet is going perhaps it is time for me to find a new game.

You can do fractals for ascended weapons, I have gotten a few ascended weapons this way so far.

I’ve been waiting for this to get fixed for months, i guess the more people that post on this thread the faster it will be fixed hopefully, so… posted

it looks like winterday gifts were supposed to drop only normal quartz and this has now been fixed.

“Fixed a bug that caused Charged Quartz Crystals to drop instead of Quartz Crystals. " – gw2 wiki (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates)

So with glory retiring as a currency what is going to happen to glory boosters?

yep same for me, now i am wondering what is the 5th thing i need for daily lol =\

I believe the current consensus is there is a duping bug.

Maybe just maybe anet wants the market to be suddenly flooded with omega golems. I mean with wvw seasons isn’t it more epic and more fun when you have a zerg fighting another zerg all in omega golem outfits?

Alongside with posting the theory i sort of wanted a 3rd omega golem topic in this forum

Are you sure it loads all 300,000 sales you have made? I mean it looks like a paginated grid which normally do not load everything for every page. They normally load the page you are on and get a count of how many pages there are so they can render the next buttons if applicable. Then when you click on the next page button it goes and fetches the next pages results.

So I went to sell some stuff on the black lion, and the window that popped up showed a bunch of stuff, none of which was mine (see screenshot). Does this happen to anyone else? I am mainly posting this because I found it funny.

Um, i basically do my entire daily in WvW. So I don’t see the problem

I would also like to know

So when the holloween events were up I got the pumpking carving achievement. The achievement being I believe carve 150 pumpkins. I have the title just in my hero tab it says I have 0/1 of tier 1.

I have the title so I do not really mind that for what ever reason the tier got reset but I just thought I would report it. See the screenshot attached.

also cannot login