I am also not progressing, not in reward track points or rank points. I do know about the reward tracks being capped, but even if that is the case I should still get rank points shouldn’t I? Also I don’t think i have passed the cap somehow since according to daily I have played only two pvp games.
So you are simply saying that they only ever planned to have special abilities on a single item, but none of the others?
That doesn’t really make any sense.
And re-releasing it without that ability would probably create a massive kittenstorm.
Well I don’t know their planning or thinking but Anet does a lot of stuff that doesn’t make sense and/or creates massive kittenstorms.
That is true there are more issues now but I would still like this issue responded too.
They did respond.
They removed potential other bonuses from permanent tools released after this one, which would suggest that their response was: “Okay, players don’t like it, so we won’t add it to any more tools”.
I dunno ‘removed’ and simply ‘never added in the first place’ are two different things, if they released the watchwork pick again and this time it did not have a chance of getting free sprockets then I would be more likely to agree with you.
So I am stuck in a reward track at 63%, I have won 5 games since and it has not progressed. I thought it was a DR sort of thing so I went wvw and did a few events and still it will not progress (after wvw I did another game).
Sort of along this topic, it would be nice that if you are playing the game and an update comes you can download while playing, then be given the option once it is done to re-log and be in the new patch. This doesn’t sound like much effort as long as the download does not take more then an hour (because you can continue playing after an update has hit up to an hour before being forced to log out and download the new patch.
maybe Anet just has been to busy and didn’t have time to read this thread yet, now that it is back on the front page I am sure they will be responding any minute now
sigh when they said they were removing glory I don’t recall them saying anything about making the arcane stuff worthless, and now that glory is gone why am I still getting them from dailies if they are worthless?…
I also bought a ton of thick leather back in the day, but I sold it when the price went up to like 14c each because it didn’t seem like it was going anywhere.
lol refund? Na just remove them. (Ya i know they would for this because people spent real money on them but they never compensated people for removing their fractal levels or when removing glory converting the glory boosters into something of worth (after all they were obtained from achievement chests n stuff so way to give us a worthless reward))
I am not going to support any suggestion to break the law by proposing that ANet tries to screw their players by not giving them the goods they paid for after taking their money.
They did give you the item that you paid for, and now it is time for them to take it away, which I am pretty sure they can do legally because everything in the game is still their property and they can do with it as they want (pretty sure it says something along those lines in the ToS)
So after paying full price for your car, they take it back after you have driven it for a day is legal? That is ridiculous! Just because you overpaid for your convenience doesn’t mean everyone now has to be screwed because you are angry and jealous.
As for the old picks, you paid for it as they were. They didn’t gain or lose any functions so those transactions were legal. There is nothing that says ArenaNet cannot sell them for a cheaper price or even improve on their functions at the same price later to benefit everyone else.
I agree it is pretty crazy but yes they can just take away the car, here is a quote from the terms of service you have agreed too. “The Items, services or access to other specific forms of Content offered by NCSOFT in exchange for Gems may be discontinued, modified or removed from the Account by NCSOFT at any time in its sole and absolute discretion. " The above quote can be found here
well thanks for the fun, i was a bit bored this weekend and it was fun trolling on here, now back on topic, Anet explain yourselves!.
lol refund? Na just remove them. (Ya i know they would for this because people spent real money on them but they never compensated people for removing their fractal levels or when removing glory converting the glory boosters into something of worth (after all they were obtained from achievement chests n stuff so way to give us a worthless reward))
I am not going to support any suggestion to break the law by proposing that ANet tries to screw their players by not giving them the goods they paid for after taking their money.
They did give you the item that you paid for, and now it is time for them to take it away, which I am pretty sure they can do legally because everything in the game is still their property and they can do with it as they want (pretty sure it says something along those lines in the ToS)
I think Anet should just delete all the sprocket picks from the game and call it good, it would be in line with what they like to do. For example remove people’s fractal achievements moving them down from 80 to 30, or making glory boosters totally pointless but not providing any sort of compensation of any sort.
Don’t forget to refund the price if they deleted items that people have actually paid for. They would be able to buy more sprockets with their refund than with the pick itself.
Or better yet, actually introduce something in their gem store that is mathematically proven to be worth buying FOR ONCE!
Hopefully, I know this would never happen, people here would learn how to perform elementary school math on item pricing before they claim something to be P2W when they are really P2L.
lol refund? Na just remove them. (Ya i know they would for this because people spent real money on them but they never compensated people for removing their fractal levels or when removing glory converting the glory boosters into something of worth (after all they were obtained from achievement chests n stuff so way to give us a worthless reward))
I think Anet should just delete all the sprocket picks from the game and call it good, it would be in line with what they like to do. For example remove people’s fractal achievements moving them down from 80 to 30, or making glory boosters totally pointless but not providing any sort of compensation of any sort.
So, all you watchwork defenders who pointed out that the pick isn’t OP because of the ‘cheap’ sprockets..
Price of sprockets has jumped 100% overnight.
I guess it’s not OP now to have sprockets sell at +1.2s now?
Everyone had the option to buy one of these picks. Every. Single. Player. It wasn’t restricted to a special few people. Everyone. Coming along after the fact and reviling those who decided to buy it is kind of silly.
LOL ‘after the fact’ I am pretty sure this thread was started during the sprocket pick sale. I for one knew about it during the sale, and intentionally did not buy it, because I will not support Anet in their P2W schemes.
You should have bought a pick when you had the chance. Now your missing out on big sub-1s winning.
Thanks for agreeing that this is P2W, and that is why I would like to hear a response from Anet on the subject.
I don’t agree it’s pay to win (I guess the sarcasm was just wasted on you). I just think you should have bought one if you think it’s such an epic amount of awesomeness. It doesn’t make sense to say the pick is full of win, then not take advantage of it … unless you’re just being obtuse.
The pick is here. It’s not going anywhere. It hasn’t brought people immense wealth or ‘WIN’, whatever that is. What kind of response are you actually waiting for Anet to give you? There isn’t anything to say. Maybe they could tell us how much revenue they made from the sales and compare that to operating costs, demonstrating how many months of funding it provided to keep this game free to play. Perhaps that would clear up the fit of ignorance some people are exhibiting.
Your need to argue falls on deaf ears, but you make a good point about what kind of a response I would like to hear from Anet. I would like to know their thinking on why they choose to introduce a P2W item, maybe something a bit more in depth then “we want the monies”. I would also like to know if more of these types of items are to come in the future. Also perhaps if they do plan on moving the ‘line in the sand’ just how far are they moving it and where they have drawn their new line.
My guess is they mainly said ‘oh ya we are going to make a fractal leaderboard’ to try to calm the kittened off people whose progress they stole by lowering their fractal level from 80 to 30 to give more reason of why it was done.
If Anet does just remove glory boosters without any sort of compensation it will add to the pattern they have already started of not caring about people’s achievements and progress in the game. When they reset people’s personal fractal levels down to 30 without any sort of compensation they removed personal character progress that took months to achieve, and now it appears they might be doing it with glory boosters. I personally find this unacceptable.
So I have over 200 glory boosters, how in the world am I supposed to use them all up before glory goes away? I mean if I started using them when they first announced glory being removed I couldn’t use them all up. 2000 hours of game play from December – March, that is a lot of playing. Let us say December through March is a total of 120 days. 2000 hours divided by 120 days is 16 hours of gaming a day. Sorry but I cannot do that.
Second question for those same folks. If you buy a new computer from Dell and 3 months later they release a newer, more powerful computer for the same price do you believe you are entitled to the same? That Dell should upgrade your 3 month old computer? Of course no one thinks that. So why would that be on anyone’s mind regarding content of this game?
Ugh do you really feel that your comparison is valid? I mean with a computer as time passes technology gets better and what used to be state of the art can be done cheaper and better. This is not that, this is code in a game and if the code is done well most likely the pick just has some attribute/class which can be set to true or added and bam it can now also mine sprockets.
Yes I believe it’s valid. But I’ll change it up a bit. Instead of a full computer what about a software package? You buy the software package for $50 and use it for 5 or 6 months and they release a new version that you have to pay full retail for. Do you think you should be given the software with the new features free of charge because you previously bought the software?
Software package sure, I bought a mac, recently a newer operating system came out for the mac. The operating system is free to upgrade too.
Second question for those same folks. If you buy a new computer from Dell and 3 months later they release a newer, more powerful computer for the same price do you believe you are entitled to the same? That Dell should upgrade your 3 month old computer? Of course no one thinks that. So why would that be on anyone’s mind regarding content of this game?
Ugh do you really feel that your comparison is valid? I mean with a computer as time passes technology gets better and what used to be state of the art can be done cheaper and better. This is not that, this is code in a game and if the code is done well most likely the pick just has some attribute/class which can be set to true or added and bam it can now also mine sprockets.
If the pick is so P2W like lots of people are claiming, then it should be an obvious buy.
No. Because it’s pay-to-win, many are not buying because it sets a bad precedent. If enough people buy this, then Anet knows they can push even further into P2W territory for their next item. Anet would be stupid to not do this because it makes them money in the short/medium term.
Did I miss a patch notes or something, why are omnomberry prices going up suddenly? I mean according to gw2spidy this is basically the highest they have ever been, and the supply hasn’t been this low in a year.
I was tempted to buy a slot expansion last weekend, but due to the sprocket thing I did not. Maybe they will come out with a slot expansion plus that character now gets a free precursor every time they kill an enemy buff the next time the expansion slot sale is released..
ANet doesn’t HAVE too up the next tool. This pick may be a one off never to return. Future Gem Store gathering tools may only produce mats that game bought gathering tools can. That’s how you stop the slippery slope.
“Oops, we went to far. It’ll never happen again.”
I dunno, to me it seems like when Anet figures out something new they suddenly use it everywhere until their next ‘brilliant’ idea. For instance the super adventure box king frog ground slam that sends a shockwave outward. They have reused that on a few different bosses (tequatl). Also lets not forget the whole walk onto a position and it makes you jump really high in the air. That has been used in new jumping puzzles, mini games, and even a pvp arena.
Honestly, they don’t need to dignify this nonsense with a response. The amount of kittening over a pick that grants you the equivalent of an extra 40 COPPER per 5 swings is at best hilarious, and more generally, depressingly sad. The scale of this “reward” is less than that of buying a booster-pack, or the potential rewards of black lion chests, both of which have been available on the gemstore since launch.
“Here’s our philosophy on microtransactions: We think players should have the opportunity to spend money on items that provide visual distinction and offer more ways to express themselves. They should also be able to spend money on account services and on time-saving convenience items. But it’s never OK for players to buy a game and not be able to enjoy what they paid for without additional purchases, and it’s never OK for players who spend money to have an unfair advantage over players who spend time.”
- Mike O’Brien (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/mike-obrien-on-microtransactions-in-guild-wars-2/)
things have changed i guess eh Mike?
What is unfair about 40 extra copper from an occasional node. Between theexistence of this pick, the fact that very few people will ever want the stats these items make, and the home instance nodes, the prices of these sprocket things is never going to be material in any way.
Even the most casual player should be offended at the notion that this completely immaterial “bonus” is in any way an “unfair advantage” that someone has over them.
“Here’s our philosophy on microtransactions: We think players should have the opportunity to spend money on items that provide visual distinction and offer more ways to express themselves. They should also be able to spend money on account services and on time-saving convenience items. But it’s never OK for players to buy a game and not be able to enjoy what they paid for without additional purchases, and it’s never OK for players who spend money to have an unfair advantage over players who spend time.”
- Mike O’Brien (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/mike-obrien-on-microtransactions-in-guild-wars-2/)
