Guild Wars 2

mulzi.8273:

Mishi.7058:

bLind.6278:

They really want every single aspect of this game to be a ridiculous grind, it seems. Didn’t realize this was a Korean MMORPG.

Actually I think by them nerfing EOTM rewards it puts WvW more “on par” with rewards then how it was prior HoT patch.

Maybe they didn’t want everyone using EOTM as a train for badges, wxp, exp, badges, karma, and loot, instead of playing wvw completely.

Heaven forbid they raise the WvW rewards to match EotM, rather than nerf EotM to make it just as pointless as WvW…

second this
wvw is unrewarding compared to pve for your time

I play wvw exclusesively and the number 1 reason i never went to BL(unless i had to) was how big it was and oddly shaped and too many hills. it seems anet took that and made something worst lol.
As for tier 1 i can assure you we have yet to pop the map at least on BG (any map that ive seen). which is what expected as people play HOT but still wvw currently is dead this week.

maybe for PVE for wvw it will take 50-100+ hours per character lol

Its very frustrating for wvw exclusive players like myself. Those who have the map completion have a lot less work to fully unlock their specialization and lets not forget you have to do this per character >.>

Hexalot.8194:

Wryscher.1432:

Hexalot.8194:

Maybe you don’t have to grind Hero Points after all. From their latest blog:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/its-the-final-countdown/

“Our journey is nearly over—very soon, you will be gliding through the jungle canopy, battling to level 100 in fractals, building a guild hall with your friends, overcoming challenges in the jungle to unlock your elite specialization, competing with your friends and guildmates to get to the top of our new minigame adventure leaderboards”

Granted… not an absolute confirmation maybe, but it does strongly indicate that Elite specs will be gotten via some kind of “challenges” in the new maps.

Note that per the datamined figure of 170 HPs, you wouldn’t have needed to go into the HOT jungles for extra HPs to unlock your elites.

What worries me is the phrasing. Unlock your elite spec. there is a world of difference between unlocked, and having the skills/traits to make it useable.

For example right now you unlock the ability to add trait lines at certain levels. But if you dont have the points to unlock the skills in those trait lines it doesnt matter at all that the line is unlocked.

Yes… someone else on another forum mentioned that the challenges may be just to unlock the Elite spec itself… and that you may still need the Hero Points to actually unlock the individual traits and skills.

But LOL… can you imagine if we had to grind through a whole bunch of PVE challenges in the new HOT jungle to unlock the new elite trait lines, and then when we’re done with that… go grind another 100-170 HPs just to slot the individual traits & skills ?

Good lord…

sigh pvers will hit the ground running if that is the case >.>

I have no map completion on my main mesmer/necro and soon to be main engineer when hot releases this is going to suck:(

When i was on cd a while back and there was this guy I wont name but he would build horribly placed siege EVERYWHERE in keeps and towers (seige cap all around)and queue for upgrades at inappropriate times tag up and pull people to do PVE it was just crazy. He was spammed raged and reported SO many times but never got banned or anything as far as I know he still plays. The server would report him and nothing would happen.
Not only can there be nothing to be done on your end but anet won’t do anything either. Now f2p has hit the lower tier servers this will happen often.

lordkrall.7241:

There is no such thing as nightcapping. Ones night is someone else’s day.

Yes, it is frustrating. But at the same time, wouldn’t it be just as frustrating for the people playing during your night when their work is nullified during their night?

I am not sure PPK is the way to go to be honest, seeing as that would basically make people that play other times than the main prime time in their match up contribute much less than others. It might also lead to people simply avoiding fights and just karma train from capture point to capture point.

this is technically true that someone else’s day is someone else’s night however this is NA servers not global servers so there is a night

For me personally I have only played on 3 classes ele,nec,mesmer not like I didn’t want to play other classes but leveling to find you don’t like it just sucks. I would love it if we could keep the beta options for Hot purchasers only, so we can try different classes and see which class we want to focus on. With the beta weekends i have tried a few more classes now engineer,ranger,theif and I am already focusing on a new character engineer.
Although anyone can go into structured pvp and get a sense of it not everyone plays that. With it being beta no progress is saved and/or progress not earned it hopefully wont be exploited.
I know not everyone will use the feature I believe a lot will especially new players will. Although new players can watch video its not the same having an option like this to actually play it hands on. whether its limited to certain game modes or not I believe it would be a good idea imo.

as a wvw the gyro are an instant death (zvz)wish there was a benefit if it died quickly that is given to you or something applied to enemy.
also like its been stated many times gyros did not keep up also elite gyro would follow the enemy which is odd.
purge gyro for only 2 conditions with that cd felt lack luster if it cured all conditions it would be very similar to elixir so why not transfer 1 condition each time it cleanses you?
bulwark is nice but like all the gyros it died too quickly also the range of the absorbtion is huge would take damage from allies and instantly die when i would have rather it only protected me. so either more hp or smaller range.
also i wish the water field did a little healing. the healing gyro was nice for the first heal after the first big heal hardly healed me since it wasnt keeping up and the cd for it hurt a lot. in battles facing a necro i just couldnt sustain myself while the necro had no problem. 30s cd for all gyros felt too long overall maybe a trait to reduce cd or something
also the destruction of the gyros i wish it were instant not like i was actually destroying them often either but would be nice to like a mesmer shatter stack the explosions which is risky considering you need them but could help burst down an enemy is you time it right. the animation for the explosion of gyro sucked

scrapper vs a necro necro wins >.>

purge gyro no good compared to alternatives wish it did more!

idk if its said yet but the elite gyro follows enemies around instead of being by you to apply invis

its stab theres a trait that applies to you and gyro and not sure about the rest of condition gyro dies so fast as is i haven’t really noticed

its important to understand not every build is going to go into a battle with equal footing you might or might not face someone with a superior or inferior build vs yours perhaps you should change your build if its not very effective

Was wondering if anyone would share the build with me. been wanting to try engineer with that build. thanks
Tried to search for it but no luck

morrolan.9608:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Vavume.8065:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Simple. You make completely new maps,

Stopped reading here, cannot take anyone seriously that thinks making new maps is a simple fix.

This. It takes them over three years to make a map.

But does it have to take over 3 years?

i wouldnt doubt it considering 95% of anets resource goes into living story

in high tiers its a must but i can see how low level tiers it would be a problem

it didnt help that much but it did help somewhat sometimes depending on if people actually used it

goodbye mesmer portals?

i agree lower cd and faster cast plz

Tier 1 reset queue are crazy long but after that its not too bad. But something to understand that a map that is queue’d will have the zvz and the other maps will be for the most part empty and boring if you find zvzvz fun.
tier 1 has lots of benefits there is really good commander coverage and almost always have a zerg in one of the maps and usually lots of action.

i was on my reaper and i have to say in melee 1v1 i owned almost all the matches i traited so shroud 1 applied flame and i was a full rapid build. but vs range was very difficult i had to change to a pull utility and stack any stun and cc but if i failed likely died.

honestly i usually just kill its wvw after all. but if its like a group of people on each server standing around watching the duel i won’t interfere because that is clearly dueling but to be honest i rather kill the enemy and help someone from my server than watch them die since there is no way to know if its a premade 1v1 or spur of the moment roaming 1v1 or 2v2.

going to have to get used to it when HOT launches you will have that ad for a while in loading screen reminding you it launched haha

having to Pve to progress in wvw doesn’t make sense at all but big guilds really do both. smaller guilds won’t be able to clear the halls as quick as well if at all.

I myself only wvw but plan on trying hot pve to see if it really is an improvement. Afterall i do love wvw but i hate being poor and since they don’t seem to be adjusting rewards any time soon(probably not at all) mind as well pve in hot. it seems anet is getting what they have been pushing for since game launch all to pve.

mctyphoon.7951:

i saw speed hack first time in wvw today is that coincidence ?

sigh i don’t think so. No need to be worried about bans when you can easily make a new account and do it all over again.

i agree EOTM only!

Johje Holan.4607:

I doubt you’ll get into TC any time soon.

I also don’t think that HoT will bring in that many more players for WvW. New players will be mainly PvE’ers. And at first, I’d even bet that WvW will lose population because everyone’s going to be making a Revenant and playing the new PvE areas.

The WvW population will never be anything near to what it was in the early days.

agree with all that is said here pve is where the money is too which doesn’t help wvw either

The only other mmorpg I know of that has a wvw aspect is ESO. but there is only 1 HUGE map and it’s far less rewarding having to run long distances to get to an objective(less rewards for your time as well as less action) and much less organized pugs although maybe things are different I never really got into it. When i played it people would go about doing their own thing roaming is big there since the map is so big but you do get zergs attacking towers and long drawn out battles. Aoe has no hit limit like here in gw2 so that discourages players from being as organized and tight and no commander tag just raid parties.
Graphics wise its ok not as detailed at gw2 and has a trinity system any every class can heal/tank/dps it is also B2p.

Love the post because lets face it you’re right haha

i agree no wvw for f2p just EOTM/mist pvp
wvw can’t handle the influx of trolly players/spies its bad enough already. whats to stop people from making an alt account going to the opposing world and trash talking and trolling the other server even with the map chat restrictions it’s far too easy.
throw trash siege in bad places and siege cap an area or order bad upgrades

Tongku.5326:

The fights are far better then against YB, thats for sure. We’ll see how it goes during the week, but reset was a lot of fun.

BG groups seem to at least try to go reasonable size guild vs reasonable size guild, YB was just any guild lose to 20+ then call in map blob. Each and every single time.

Also, where YB just over sieged everything to stupid proportions and in often stupid ways, BG seems to use fewer pieces of siege, but in much smarter and effective ways.

There is an immediately noticable difference in overall quality between the 2.

Bg does not seige like yb/jq we rather fight zvz when defending rather than siege bunker or fight near our arrow carts haha

I’m from bg and depending if this week happens to be a push week will determine how much fun you have this week or the weeks to come. Nice to have new opponents just dont think you guys can handle the coverage but please come out and fight BG is the one tier 1 server that actively searches for fights

even is YB climbed to tier 1 i can assure you from someone who is tier 1 you will have the same problems if a tier 1 server gets put in tier 2 but worst. Sucks i know

1. Tempest (Overall): 1
2. Traits: 1 auras and shouts >.>
3. Warhorn: 3 <<staff ele 4. Overloads: 1 all melee range and weak not worth it for me since im staff zerk in wvw >.>
5. Healing Skill: 1
6. Utilities: 1
7. Elite Skill: -1 long cd and for 1 skill only?
8. Animations & sound 4

elite sucks but its the best option compared to other current elites eles has. I said in another post would love an elite that changed with attunements and wasnt all melee range i dont use elites currently since i wvw and im a zerk staff and none of them are viable but this is but far too underwhelming and long cd and only 5 targets?

I love the idea of overload but having to trait into that tempest line to have access to the skills hurts. I am a full zerk wvw staff ele and i feel left out for the tempest trait line.I feel the tempest line only caters to aura and warhorn which i do not use. I would fire/water/air and be full zerk but have cleansing capabilities for wvw very important for zerg overall health. having to give up water to tempest doesnt feel rewarding enough right now since i am not often surrounded by enemies for those melee overload skills to be useful for my play style. Also all the overload are all melee which i can some what deal with if the elite was any good. water overload has no finishing animation either and lets not forget about the terrible elite. I wish we could get an elite with some versatility we have been too long with terrible ones that you cant use in wvw zerging or for most game modes. and dont say tornado its terrible and its also another melee skill that gets you focused down quickly because you are a big target and fire greatsword leaves you with no access to your attunments if you need to quickly heal yourself or party/zerg or apply cc to an approaching zerg. How about an elite that changes with each attunment, that would be perfect and can have them all be different and useful for every situation and not all melee.
but its still beta maybe something will change

mesmer has perma stealth just saw a mesmer that had 30s of stealth on in wvw haha

there will only be 2 bwe like this but that doesnt mean other smaller scale betas will not happen.
and by small scale the ones you have to be invited to betas lol

pve is where the money is at for player and anet(which is why most people do not exclusively wvw) which is why wvw doesnt get too much update and lets face it wvw updates might not be well received by true wvwers.
they will likely just add more gold sinks ha

I only wvw when i log on so i understand the worry although i am quite advanced in fractals since i had to do them for rings when it first came out when there was only 1 way to get it easily. was forced into doing it, at least fractals arent as boring as the other dungeon instances but considering the fact that fractal levels will now cap at 100 in hot update i wonder how much grind one will have to do.
I think anet is willfully wanting to believe people do all game modes all the time so locking certain armor pieces behind 1 specific game mode wont be a problem. but lets face it a few months from now maybe 6 living story or something i don’t play since i only wvw will probably give a legendary piece like they did with ascended.

they should have not announced hot until they had been working on it for more than a month! that is why we are waiting so long they worked on hot probably a couple weeks and said expansion coming ! get on board hype train for the next 8-12 months

i agree they worked on it maybe a couple weeks and announced an expansion coming haha
i have prepurchased as well no regrets but lets face it they have no been working on it that long and announced it far too early

From the get go anet stated they made game that people can play the way they wanted but it seems thats not the case considering how much more gold/achievements are in pve compared to wvw. I think there is quite a few people who only ever get on for wvw once they are geared.
although i know more people generally do pve but i fully believe its because of the gold/achievements
Personally i only ever get on to wvw and nothing else. I used to fractals but no longer have a need to do that but having to do that to get the gear i needed to compete in wvw is another thing entirely
I’m not so big about the updates for wvw considering eotm(if you can call that wvw update) one but wish gold was balanced out better and better drops since you know player drops are terrible.

Sunreva.8714:

I’d venture to guesstimate that probably 50% or more of players running around on foot are using the exploit Golem “+100% damage to players” buff.

Attached screenshot shows a thief striking for essentially 35k damage in five hits; this burst isn’t even remarkable. Warrior volleys are hitting for 20+k, ranger rapid fire can hit for 30k, etc etc etc.

This is out of control and the lack of response or even acknowledgment by ArenaNet regarding this obvious and broken exploit is a slap in the face to the WvW community. If we are stuck with the gimmicky golem changes, is it so much to ask that at least the golem buff EXPLOIT be addressed?

anet has been slapping wvwers for years you get used to it

I only wvw so that means im poor and have very little achievement points for someone whos played since day 1. I have no legendary to speak of and I have only ever gotten 1 precursor drop in fractals. I mean i have pve but just to get the ascended accessories and thats it. wish pvp would feel as bountiful as pve is but thats just a dream.
if anet made wvw as lucrative as pve no one do pve lets face it

think they did in chinas servers but i could be remembering wrong but i know some kind of merge happened their so i know the coding exist. it is very likely that the servers wvw is just lacking not the actual size of the server as a whole which is why we have yet to see one happen. also devs are working 100% on hot right now lol

So just wondering what level is rev going to be when i make and would it come geared or do i have to do that? and if i do gear it would it get deleted later?

when they announced i thought it wouldn’t be any later than summer release but looks like fall right now. i feel they announced expansion far too early for a fall release