Guild Wars 2

How do people have trouble killing thieves? I play guardian and a thief has never ever owned me or come close in wvw. With my hammer I immobilise knockback and use #2. Skill which that skill alone takes out half the thieves hp (especially if it crits for 5-6k). Also if a thief stealths don’t just sand still, move around so it’s harder to backstab. Most thieves I face either die in 5 seconds or stealth and run like little noobs while my hp is still above 90%. Learn to play your class and you will realise thieves are pretty weak.

Horrible idea. It’s a supply camp for a reason not a fortress that needs champions. You are supposed to be guarding camps/towers/keeps not NPC you shouldn’t need a big Zerg to kill NPC

Really wish people stop complaining about thieves. It literally takes me 5-10 seconds to kill a thief in a 1v1 unless they don’t shadow refuge and run like noobs. I’m a guardian btw. And yes thieves use stealth and dagger storm what’s the problem? Dagger storm is like the only good aoe they have and stealth only prevents them from getting owned. I’d your getting killed by thieves stop running glass cannon builds in wvw get some toughness or learn to play your class.

Why do people alt f4 I don’t get it. Fight or die like a man plus it takes like 5 mins to start game and get in wvw again. Are people that cheap they can’t afford 1 silver for repair cost? Cus if you can’t even afford that you’re doing something wrong.

Rake.7169:

iiMulch.2138:

Lol me and (GoD) were spawn camping about 30-40 miller. We literally hid behind a tree, they ran out to take godslore we kill them, hide behind tree again and repeat.

so you essentially exploited the immense culling issues… GJ

Uhmmm no we didn’t. We hid behind a house or a tree in gods lore supply camp waited for u guys to group up again and wipe miller about 10 times at least. Also even if game didn’t render all of our Zerg its not our fault so stop making up excuses

Lol me and (GoD) were spawn camping about 30-40 miller. We literally hid behind a tree, they ran out to take godslore we kill them, hide behind tree again and repeat.

[SUR] Mesmer really demonstrated good flying abilities as he flew over sunny hill this morning.

Who would build 200 arrow carts just to prevent his team from building anymore siege? This despawn is totaly unnecessary.

What cerk said, my party members targetted him i looked and saw him flying in keep.

So can someone explain to me how Seafarer rest mesmer managed to get in sunny hill and port the zerg in when the gate was at 40%? He couldn’t have been hiding there because sunny hill was fully upgraded tower and belonged to deso for a few hours.

I smell hacks.

Very funny how you people claim that all desolation are pugs and “know nothing about tactics” when GoD and many other guilds are doing an awesome job in wvw. Use mesmer portals/turtle/etc. And are very organised. I think you should rethink before you post crap like that and stop thinking you are the kings of desolation wvw.

You aren’t the only wvw guild around theres many others on different borderlands doing a good job.

Lol we just held up against blacktide zerg in dawns eyire. That was a good fight, they came through the wall took the tower we were still inside and took it back XD

Had a very fun time in WvW today our guild decided to join Vizunha Borderland and we were the only players on the map. We owned nothing in the whole map now we own this much:

Radamanth.9048:

iiMulch.2138:

We aren’t expecting RUIN to carry us. It’s just that RUIN say we need to get better during primetime. They need to realise that we constantly get owned by the rendering bug and the sudden swarm of RG members. Also RUIN aren’t the ones to judge EU guilds because we continue to fight hard during the day, whereas RUIN saw that they now have oppositon and quit. This clearly shows that RUIN are overated and they only caused us to gain points because they took empty keeps.

continue to fight hard during the day?

sorry to burst your bubble, but we are kinda last during mornings, early afternoons, and mostly late afternoons aswell. and todays prime time … well, no other comment needed really. total disaster is what comes to mind.

I start to think its really ruins nightforce, and nothing else, that made us triumph the last 2 weeks.

You clearly didn’t play wvw last week because we had the majoroty of point gain through the day

We aren’t expecting RUIN to carry us. It’s just that RUIN say we need to get better during primetime. They need to realise that we constantly get owned by the rendering bug and the sudden swarm of RG members. Also RUIN aren’t the ones to judge EU guilds because we continue to fight hard during the day, whereas RUIN saw that they now have oppositon and quit. This clearly shows that RUIN are overated and they only caused us to gain points because they took empty keeps.

spacemayu.4817:

If you are in RUIN you will know that the lack of a strong RUIN presence has nothing to do with “running from a challenge”.

Ruin is tired, its officers need a rest. The WvW game is not as fun as it used to be, and saving Desolation from defeat is not Ruin’s job.

It just shows you that Deso lacks the large, strong organised guilds it needs to pull its own weight. Ruin is not Desolation; the pugs need to step up.

We are tired of fighting hard enemies during primetime and you are tired from taking empty keeps? LMAO

Lol blacktide borderland no blacktide fighting french and no french fighting blacktide. The french are just always attacking greenbriar and not even bothering to attack blacktide

Shin.2705:

iiMulch.2138:

We were doing really well last week against Vizunha. We proved we owned them because we had point lead 24/7. Only reason why vizunah overtake us now is because blacktide hasn’t been attacking any of their keeps and vizunha hasn’t attacked any of blacktide keep. Both servers come to greenbriar and fight us. Now when blacktide is fighting vs we took half the map.

You had point lead 24/7 before just coz you were the only one serv that was able to cover the maps 24/7… RUIN vs Doors… Waouh, too strong…

Now that BT is here, where is Deso? This afternoon, Vizu took back the second place and Deso will only take it back coz in some few hours we will have to go to sleep and won’t cover the night like pasts weeks…

You should be more concerned about the fact that finally, against an other 24/7 server Deso don’t appear that strong, i mean look at the score 75k+ for BT and 25k+ for both Deso et Vizu…

And you guys used french canadians 2 months ago when we last faced you and you owned us. So I think we are about even….

Sasigo.6203:

iiMulch.2138:

We were doing really well last week against Vizunha. We proved we owned them because we had point lead 24/7. Only reason why vizunah overtake us now is because blacktide hasn’t been attacking any of their keeps and vizunha hasn’t attacked any of blacktide keep. Both servers come to greenbriar and fight us. Now when blacktide is fighting vs we took half the map.

….
Are you serious ?
Without those burgers eaters players on your server, you won’t be able to play in T1.
You owned us ? Rofl, PvDoor =/= ownage

Now, Desolation isn’t against 2 servers without activity at night anymore, let’s see if Deso will stay first this week, whith all the good players in BT and VS against you, it will be hard

Actually we held up well during the day. Also you’re forgetting you guys night cap too and use your french canadians. So please stop saying we only winnin cus of ruin

RUIN did well for us, only because they faced no one. Now they are leaving when they have “challange” and now we are going to fall down many places since our night cap is non existant compared to vizunha and blacktide.

Ianervan.3415:

(Post is a reference to NoShelter post that has been removed/deleted and was about how RUIN “won” EU bracket and is going to switch to another game. lolz)

lol dude, Blacktide was stronger than Deso even last week. What are you talking about? You didn’t beat EU bracket. You mass transferred before anyone else, and flipped the balance in your favor. Then when other servers started mass transferring suddenly it’s “ooops we can’t win anymore in EU, so let’s call it a win and flee”.

If Blacktide was in T1 last week you know what would happen? Same thing. Blacktide would prevent RUIN from nigthcapping, and Vizu would beat Desolation in other times. You would not win. But you did, thanks to slow World balancing method ANet uses, where servers can’t climb/fall as fast as their strength can rise/drop.

You know what you remind me of? Comments I read on GWGuru from Henge of Denravi. “We beat the game, cya”. And what did they do? A bunch of competitive guilds jumped on one server before other servers consolidated and did the same. Then they called it quits real fast. Such heroes.

Just admit it, even with your huge RUIN presence you can’t win EU bracket. You were not the strongest server last week, you’re not this one. And it shows, by far.

I defended RUIN many times on this forum, but frankly, after reading your psots I see why Americans don’t like you (not to mention EU people). First you switch from NA to EU to win, then now when you can’t win even in EU because someone beat you to your own game – you’re “switching to other games”.

We were doing really well last week against Vizunha. We proved we owned them because we had point lead 24/7. Only reason why vizunah overtake us now is because blacktide hasn’t been attacking any of their keeps and vizunha hasn’t attacked any of blacktide keep. Both servers come to greenbriar and fight us. Now when blacktide is fighting vs we took half the map.

Finaly desolation doing well only on blacktide bl. Because blacktide for the first time today stopped attacking desolation and attacked the french. Now we trebbin their garrison XD. Hopefully we can overtake Vizunha square.

Latinkuro.9420:

Mindvibe.4630:

solid plan if you want matches to be decided on who makes more golems.

golems are good in combination with mesmer portals which i foresee a big nerf to in the upcoming patch, also because golems are mobile I would put them in a siege destroyer class and do not damage doors or walls.

No one makes golems to destroy siege. Golems are there to speed cap keeps by making 10 of them and mesmer portalling them infront of a gate

RUIN was never good. RUIN was only good at player vs door. Taking an empty keep and killing 2-3 enemies. Now when they have opposition they quit and pretend they beat the game.

Certain guilds come here and pretend they do all the work. Im not saying any names but when this certain guild fails at a borderland they all leave and go to a borderland that is doing well. Desolation needs better organised guilds and those pve commanders need to learn how to play the game.

Zaowi.7098:

We really need more big wvw guilds on Deso for more organisation, we have only IRON and Ruin, wheres blacktide have about 6 or so big wvw guilds, 2 big ones from FSP server transfer and one from vabbi i think called SFRJ or something along those lines.

They can evenly spread their guilds out on each border, you can see by the map we can only hold 2 borders most of the time, desolation and blacktide border we have nothing but a tower or supply camp alot of the times cause its basically pugs running wild or 3 pve commanders in there doing their own thing.

Yes we have smaller guilds that wvw but they are instantly crushed by the bigger guilds and can only do so much with the pugs they try to lead.

At reset I went into blacktide border at one point because vizunah queue where Iron goes was full, we had nothing but a tower and CIR was just camping our supply while pugs were going in one after another dying, it was a complete mess.

There is still no queue on atleast 2 of our borders, (deso +blacktide ) would be nice if we could recruit a few more big guilds onto deso or make our smaller guilds bigger.

We need to make Deso more of a WvW server rather than pve if were going to keep competing.

Only have IRON and RUIN? Really? Are you forgetting about the other 5-6 wvw guilds that play 7-8 hours during the day? Stop being ignorant and thinking IRON is the only good wvw guild around.

Shin.2705:

“French, french, french….blablabla”

You are tired of people calling Desolation American server and?

Where was Desolation before the Americans came on this serv?

The reality is simple, before in EU ladder, there were only EU timezone players… With the americans guilds, Dero has been able to cover WvW 24/7….
And they were playing when? During nights, while all the EU players were sleeping…So against some unprotected doors…
What was happening during the day? Deso was losing most of the points they capped during the night…
“Hopefully we can beat these french and knock them out of t1” ?
Really?
You all got a real problem to solve… Realise that is just a game and stop acting like you’re in a real war against french people!
What’s your problem with french people anyway? You’re just jalous that we’re just one of the biggest community of GuildWars in EU? Or are you just racist?
And now what? You are proud of winning by nightcapping?

You BT and Desolation cover WvW 24/7 and you have what? 3k points more than Visunah while BT got just twice your score?

I wouldn’t be proud about that if i were you…Especially while American guilds on Desolation do more than half of the work during european timezone night…

Now that Desolation have to face a really good 24/7 server has BT (i mean with brain, stategy, etc…), you should just face the reallity, Desolation is not that good…

And personnaly , i’m just tired of this kind of talking/thinking about vendetta against french people

PS: No offense, don’t misanderstand me… I respect all the players wherever they’r from an i love good fight on the battlefield but i really do prefer when all this things comes with a good spirit of competition and a mutual respect!

Stop acting like Vizunha doesn’t have night cap. Did you forget about the Canadians that night capped for you a 2 months ago when we last faced each other? Also during the day last week we owned you during the day as well. Yesterday we always had a point lead over you so I wouldn’t be the one to call desolation a bad server especially since we are beating you. Also your RUIN night cap is almost non existant in this match up.

What makes a good commander is a commander who plays wvw regularly and doesn’t buy it and farm cursed shore.

A good commander is someone who doesn’t fight for 30 mins in the island between redbriar and greenbriar.

A good commander is someone who works with other guilds.

A good commander is someone who understands tactics and doesn’t just flame in chat if someone is approaching an attack differently.

What I’m trying to say is, a good commander is one that has a brain and knows how to play this game. (Very few match this description)

I’m tired of people calling desolation “American server” last week we had the point lead during night and during the day. We are not winning just because of RUIN and its annoying that no guilds are given any credit for playing 7-8 hours.

I think this will be a bad week for desolation because today it took us a whole day to try and take DB from blacktide. On vizunha square borderlands it also took a whole day to take that keep too. Which was then lost in 10 mins. Blacktide are really good and even now I played on Desolation and on Blacktide borderland, our night cap was not there. We had 10 ppl max attacking DB which was wiped in 5 seconds from a big Russian zerg of 30 players. Also on Desolation our night cap consisted of random players and it totalled to about 20-30 all over the map. Seems like RUIN is only in EB because on other borderlands we are getting owned. Also throughout the day Blacktide always had the point lead which leads me to believe we gonna get owned through the week. Hopefully we can beat these french and knock them out of t1, they must hate us now after last weeks pounding, no wonder they try to attack us constantly instead of taking the advantage that blacktide zergs are on our side of the map and the towers on cliffside or longiview aren’t even defended.

Parthenos Polias.5683:

1st Blacktide
2nd Vizunah Square
3rd Desolation

This will be the final score.

Because Russian guilds from Blacktide will fully prevent Desolation to stack income during 4am-8am cet.
Moreover, as the week which ends showed it to us, Desolation is weaker than Vizunah (and probably Blacktide) during EU primetime.
Without the easy income during night, Desolation may not be able to keep the 1st place.

How is desolation weaker then vizunha? This week clearly showed desolation having a 80k lead on them and also maintaining number 1 point gain during the day as well. We dominated day and night

I don’t understand why people complain of mesmer portals. It is a game dynamic and it adds strategy and more fun than just seeing an enemy charging at you. My guild is currently mastering the art of mesmer portalling. It is very fun to have a zerg attacking our keep gate and then a mesmer makes a portal and in a flash theres 40 of us attacking the enemy from behind. It is a great mechanic.

If thieves are killing you in less than 2 seconds WHILE being stealth then you are doing something wrong.

yertle.5837:

@iiMulch people just complain because they play super squishy builds and get oneshot by super squishy thieves.

They don’t complain about mesmers because people don’t play them as gankers much.

Yeah I noticed half the server is runnin glass cannon build but somehow lack damage and get slaughtered by arrow carts/random players/thieves. In wvw glass cannon is just something you must avoid doing.

TheRamosOnline.2670:

grintar.1705:

QQ some more. all your post comes down to is you saying, “I WANT TO KEEP MY GOLD!” Instead of realizing that WvW is meant to be an endgame gold sink(hence gold costs for siege + upgrades). Also, your stating that your not a team player, because you would rather keep your precious gold than help out your team. way to be a team player.

Gold sink.
What is a Gold sink?
Its where you pour your earned money to in turn make a profit (in essence, it can also be used in its more literal sense to pour money so that you dont hit Gold cap).
The issue here is that pouring gold into this sink will result in having no more gold to pour.
You run out entirely because you are not making a profit.

Where, then, do you get your blueprints?
3 of the 4 puzzles are broken. And if you’re not good at puzzles or the enemy servers are camping them, your only option is to buy. But how can you buy when you spent every last copper on a gold sink that didn’t give you a profit?

This, little scrubling, is the issue the OP is referring to.

You need to learn what Gold sink means my friend.

Different people have different perceptions of what wvw is about. I like it competitive. I have been on Desolation since launch ( I wasn’t one of the people who migrated from low servers just because deso was t1). I am in a very good wvw guild and we find it really fun to play competitively and try to get a lot of points. However I do understand that lower servers also have fun because it is a lot more casual.

Why would you need karma? You can either buy them for silver ( I don’t recommend it) or buy with badges. Badges are very easy to get and in every zerg fight you aoe a few guys your gonna see badges all around you. (Especially thieves dagger storm or guardian whriling wrath). I have no problem gettin siege.

Basically what I have is, full toughness, vitality, power, then on help I have vit tough and healing power and boots precision toughness vit. For guardian we naturally have low crit so no point in berserk set.

Actually, the last 2 days desolation has been doing very well point wise per day and night. We were doing bad on weekend but now on weekdays we are doing well during the day. We were at 350 points and maintained an average of about 270 through the day.
GoD guild were doing good job XD

Recently I soloed a thief and mesmer at the sentry south of garrison. Now I am a guardian and I admit im definetly not the best of pvpers. But those 2 guys sucked, i tore through them with ease. It’s not about the class, its about skill. You can face 2 thieves if you want if they suck you gonna kill em. Plus thieves have very low hp just 1 burst skill already has em 1/4 health. Mesmers are more tricky because they can escape easy and it’s hard to focus them.

This is the hottest charr guardian of all time!

Charr female looks same as male.

Why is it hard to afford 5 silver to repair gear? If you are getting owned that bad all the time then maybe reconsider how you play your class.

I started playing a guardian recently and I have tried to wvw. However it has been hard to do wvw without any decent range weapons. All of the other classes have awesome ranged weapons except us. Thieves got pistols and bows that hit hard, warriors got bows and the rest have ranged weapons too. We got a staff that has a range of 600 and does an aoe attack. 600 range isn’t much use in wvw if you are trying to hit people up on the wall or hit people below you. It is only useful in a big zerg situation, but in that case I would rather pull out a greatsword or hammer. The Scepter is just disapointing. Players run faster than the blue balls, you don’t even need to dodge it and they don’t even follow the player. Either gives us pistols or a bow or make the staff and scepter have better ranged attacks.

I use scepter/shield in wvw as a ranged weapon to hit people on walls or if I am defending a building. Then greatsword for melee fighting

My guardian has a good downed state but my necro one sucks. I don’t like downed state. I can’t tell you the amount of times people summoned clones of themselves and i finish off the clones and by the time I realise the person is 20 meters away he is already rallied. Also its annoying when they teleport or go invisible in the middle of a zerg.

Rytlock will smash Logan. If you compare Rytlock to a bear or tiger those animals can destroy humans with ease.

New area… No big deal just 5 more skill points 20 more points of interest a few hearts and some vistas. Just like every other map

You must have not used your brain when you wrote this. There already are problems with night capping! Why on earth would a EU server face a US server? First off the ping would be horrible, secondly US is 6 hours behind so they cap us while we sleep… Please think next time you post something like this lol

I am pretty sure it is designed that there are always equal ammounts. When there is a que to join a battlefield then there is always a balanced ammount of people in the battlefield. If there is no que then either one of the teams is lacking in players or they all are.

My guild (GoD) are also not taking much part in WvWvW atm. Seems like most people lost will to play when we have 2 french servers and one of them night cap like crazy

Ok look how about a suggestion:

Don’t make it possible for EU players to transfer to NA servers and NA players to transfer to EU servers. Because most of the people who night cap are American. For example when we played against Vizunha Square we had 50 Canadians capping through the night and everything was owned by Vizunha next morning.