Guild Wars 2

Its not like as a Necromancer you can just stand there and applying conditions, considering how difficult it is for you to gain stability IMO.
Its only an opinion from me as a new player so it is not necessary for you to get offended good dude?

For those replies bragging about how are they super skilled and don’t have any problems fighting other professions, pls give us newbies a break, we dont need to know how Super skilled you are….what we need is opinions and solutions from kind people.

Didn’t Anet said that Necromancers have to stay to finish the fight when a fight starts?
Because as a Necromancer its much difficult for us to finish nobody since we have only two gap closer if you don’t count on swiftness. For Example, when I was fighting a Warrior, Thief , Mesmer, Ele, even Engineer, lets not talk about how should we fight them in order to win( its more like base on players skill level ), and assume you have an upper hand and now having an advantage if they keep fighting you to death. But What will these classes do instead? Warrior will bulls charge away or do a few leaps to stay away from you ( which seems weird because most of the time they are the one chasing ), Thieves….. I guess I don’t have to mention how would they do to avoid you….. And mesmer , they are a bit more easy to chase down if you are fighting them on plains, but when they have the blink ? laughable
So I’m not talking about how Every single class could do to run away from you, its acceptable if they are just escaping. The problems comes after they escape. When they get out of your reach, they can heal without getting any interrupt of yours, or even go straight out of combat while some of yours skills are on cooldown, and then , coming back to engage you in their favourable timing, since you have not really too much skills to disengage ( considering you may juke with Spectral walk and flesh wurms , but it would not be hard for them to catch up on you since when escaping in plains, your only movement option is swiftness ), you have to either trying up to catch him with DS2 or Spectral grasp( if u would tkae one) or staying at the place like an NPC waiting for them coming back and kill you like an NPC ( since you might have used up the life force in the first engage )

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

I am built for Vitality and Toughness. So i can still “face tank” in normal form for a few seconds and have DeathShroud as well which takes damage a lot better as well.

Their is however, times when we simply stand no chance – Hammer spamming warriors are one of them, anything that can stun, interrupt or knock us back is going to be strong thanks to the very limited access to stability we have.

We have very little in terms of defensive skills either, unlike classes that have stealth, damage immunity, condition immunity, CC immunity and such…we get Prot for 7 seconds, every 60 seconds…wow

And Anet called us an attrition class because we have that prot and death shroud
Im running a new guardian and found that it have far more condi dmg from the passive burning, and dont even mention how hard can I be killed XDDD comparing to the time when i was a necro Its just laughable. As a necro I have to running around, panic about how am I survive this stupid warrior stun lock and condi immune, now as a guard I got numerous prot and heal lol

Actually its all about knowing other professions, for example if you know something about the warrior, you would simply run and juke him with Spectral walk when he have his condi immune on.( since its kitten ear god mode to condi necros, we cant fear him, nor dmg him)
If you are fighting a thief he’s gonna stealth a looooooooot, so u might want to set up a few marks on the ground for him, waiting for him to step on one in order to back stab you. And try not to open your back to him, it’s almost a sign to the thief says : free bag of loots.

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keloorie.6085:

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keloorie.6085:

we necros do not have any abilities to face tank focus dmg unless we are taking the minion build or the well build.

What?

alright im not an expert , but IMO we dont have that attrition good?

Necro is the best face-tanking class out there due to DS/Plague/DS chain. We just can’t escape the focus very well. We can take it up the kitten for far longer than any other class though. :P

I thought i said it in the very first reply about that, we are not good at face tanking focus dmg… did I ? pls read well dude

We are the best at face-tanking damage focus damage, not good at escaping it. Escaping damage isn’t the same thing as face-tanking it.

so … when 3 person focusing fire on you, stunning and knocking back, placing 10 stacks of bleed, cofusion, torment on you and you can survive that just by face tanking ? good job

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keloorie.6085:

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keloorie.6085:

we necros do not have any abilities to face tank focus dmg unless we are taking the minion build or the well build.

What?

alright im not an expert , but IMO we dont have that attrition good?

Necro is the best face-tanking class out there due to DS/Plague/DS chain. We just can’t escape the focus very well. We can take it up the kitten for far longer than any other class though. :P

I thought i said it in the very first reply about that, we are not good at face tanking focus dmg… did I ? pls read well dude

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keloorie.6085:

we necros do not have any abilities to face tank focus dmg unless we are taking the minion build or the well build.

What?

alright im not an expert , but IMO we dont have that attrition good?

my point doesnt change in 1v1 situation, you should use fears within your skills to avoid your opponent, and try CC them instead of face tanking the dmg like a warrior( which never work for us, coz warrior got heavy armor, and we have ….. ) if i were you, i would think about how to survive the whole fight by generating life force, and in the process , dealing damage to your opponent.

we necros do not have any abilities to face tank focus dmg unless we are taking the minion build or the well build. In your build i guess you are trying to be a tanky necros so u better want to decide which style do u want to play, since your traits is a complete chaos.

you know what? This is not because I want to use those weird minions. To some people they might think those minions are worth to play, they enjoy building an army of theirs, but to me, those minions are just brainless NPC who have a lot of bugs and attacking target I dont want/need it to. Yet I am still running a minion build in PVE content . why?
Although I like the WvW and PvE content in the same time, they are tough to play with necromancer in the same class. But it would be just too fustrating for us changing our builds and traits everytime we switch from WvW to PvE, vice versa.
And since condition build gets nerfed a lot through every change ( nerf in skills condi dmg , the increasing condition immunity, stability and cleansing ability of classes except necros ) , minion master become one of the classes which fits in more as an attrition class. Although some may argue about how strong is the tradition condi build still is, it is having too much counter, and I meant TOO MUCH counter already (might be just me playing super suck)
Back to your question, so I guess simple PvE necro players shouldn’t refuse this request of yours , but for those who are trying to roam as the pathetic necro in the WvW, there isnt much choice for them ( despite your choice of using terror/dhumfire or not)

Now whenever any Dev walks in and see this post, they will laugh hard, and then decide that they will never never buff necro so all these kind of fun moment can be seen everywhere through Tyria
And the first of April in Tyria will named as " April necro’s day "
Lets cheers for we have becoming a clown to amuse the other professions

I’m a newbie Necro, so I don’t really understand the reason you guys hate dhumfire. I’ve seen a lot of people saying that they hate it, but never mentioned about the reason.
I would like to know the reason of your hate towards dhumfire. though I would be happy if they have another interesting trait for a change.
Imo dhumfire is simply not as strong as people think. The engineer has a trait in the master tier which process with a longer burning, while Necros have a Dhumfire with shorter burning duration in the grand master trait and having people saying dhumfire OP which needs to be nerf and nerf and nerf and nerf and nerf.

First of all I am one of the Necromancer who plays the terror/dhumfire build, I am not skilled and I use a predictable skill rotation that most player who knows how to play Necromancer can read it and dodge my skills. But the most frustrating part is the last time i engage a warrior 1v1.
In the beginning of the engage, I tries to engage him with the scepter, hoping to apply a few conditions on him. He then close the gap by the hammer skill and I forced to use my chillbane to control his movement, but as soon as he get hit by the chill, he pops the condition immunity and I forced to pop DS, hoping the DS can soak up a few damage on me, but …… all of you might know what will happen next, I got hit like a ping pong and my DS worn. After his immunity, I apply the Signet of Spite on him, and fear him with Staff5 to prevent him trying to cleanse those conditions on him.
But he soon pops another stability and the fear is failed. I then use a corrupt boon on him to make the stability into a fear, and BOOM, the fear is cleansed and again he get another stability…….
Now I dont have any abilities to keep him away from me so, its a GGWP. ( keep in mind that i have only the Doom and golem chrage left, which is not enough for me maintaining time to apply conditions on him becoz of his stability )

Can anyone tell me that , with my build how should i keep him away from me ?
( I know my english is bad and it is annoying to read through my situations but I really hope that I may get some more ideas about how should i play against classes like him)

Upon entering down state, Necromancer have to type [ I am sorry, please do not kill me ] before dying in order not to get the character automatically deleted after they die.

Actually it takes me 30 in spite mainly for dhumfire and the condition duration, and then 20 each on curse ( for terror ), 20 on soul reaping ( for master of terror )
In this case i will have 100% terror duration. But i’m seriously wondering if that terror duration would worth it, over the "soul marks " on soul reaping, since in my condi build its nearly impossible to gain life force.
Can anyone help me on this please?

Necro’s are OP people pls admit it
1. they have DS to absorb damage for 2 hours within battle
2. they have dumbfire which lasts for two minutes on every hit without a cooldown
3. they have 16 ways to stealth
4. they have immune to dmg by pressing one button
5. they have a healing signet which gives them around 300+ health every second , regardless they are hitted or not
6. they can disengage anytime they want in the WvW environment if the fight seems ugly, heal up, and re-enter the fight while most of their enemy’s skills are on cooldown

They deserve a big nerf , so anyone can kill and run over a necromancer when they are having a dinner with their right hand, doing essays on their left hand, placing the keyboard on the floor and hit the autoattack button with a toe.

I guess people should start saying [ all is vain ] when they are online, instead of [ hey ] , [ Hi how are you ]

tom.7468:

State of the game pvp balance:
Warrior->Necromancer->Engineer->Ranger->Mesmer->Guardian->Theif->Elementalist

Roll warrior if you want to win.

I am maining necro. When i saw this, i was like , OMG they really think Necro is second after warrior !? XD
These guy here invests a large amount of time in guiding newbie necros and help necro surviving. He did experiments and maths when explaining, and this video may worth to take a look if you think Necro is OP and need further nerfs.

As a necromancer serving Grenth, all weapon skills should do a self chill and fear for 4 seconds. In addition, as the symbol of the death incarnate, the usage of Death shroud should affect the necromancer’s actually health pool and the life force pool by reducing 10% per seconds.