Guild Wars 2

I have mentioned these before in various other threads, but yeah it’s super buggy.

The harp sound is really the only thing that’s consistant with it, and even then the volume is super low.

I can only twiddle my thumbs and wait for a hot fix.

This book is definitely not a waste of an item slot. Don’t regret buying it whatsoever.

saiyr.3071:

koopatroopa.5360:

saiyr.3071:

koopatroopa.5360:

Hurray.

Another WEEK of Kain taking the maps in off hours, Maguuma/Yaks zergs avoiding each other going to different maps to PvDoor.

/Yawn

I dunno where you’re playing but I’m pretty sure that’s not how reset goes

Here, I bolded and capitalized so you can understand what I said.

Sorry, I didn’t know reset wasn’t part of the week. And I guess all those times we bump into the RAM/CL zerg is just my imagination. Sorry if you think we avoid each other, I guess. I see very little ct nowadays no matter where I go.

Reset weekend is like a completely different experience, and doesn’t last long.

Not sure how my guild participation relates to this conversation though.

saiyr.3071:

koopatroopa.5360:

Hurray.

Another WEEK of Kain taking the maps in off hours, Maguuma/Yaks zergs avoiding each other going to different maps to PvDoor.

/Yawn

I dunno where you’re playing but I’m pretty sure that’s not how reset goes

Here, I bolded and capitalized so you can understand what I said.

Hurray.

Another week of Kain taking the maps in off hours, Maguuma/Yaks zergs avoiding each other going to different maps to PvDoor.

/Yawn

I think wells are fine, but I wouldn’t complain if the cooldown was reduced a bit.

I go with a dagger/focus + staff setup. Wells are pretty much standard as been mentioned before. Suffering and Corruption. You root with dagger 2 and plop your wells.

Staff is a must imo as when your wells are on cooldown you really don’t have that burst anymore. Because of this, you have great kiting potential with the staff using the chill and fear. Switching between both weapon sets frequently gives you a lot of options to that well downtime.

Also use your DS often. DS (imo) is not suppose to be used for damage. We lack mobility so once we are fighting its to the death. With this is mind, DS should be used for sustain. Sitting in DS spamming 1, while it hits decent, is not smart play because your life force will drop so quickly and you will be left with nothing to soak damage. Use DS when you know that thief/ele/mesmer is going to use it’s initial burst. Get out of DS, use your skills, and when DS is off cooldown use it for a few and pop out again. This way you are absorbing damage and still maintaining life force.

Far too many necro’s use DS as a last resort and it makes me cry.

Majority of the fight clubs happen at night, so your precious slots for the map are not even close to being filled.

Elbegast.6970:

Danomeon.3201:

Elbegast.6970:

inazuma.7021:

The F&F Dungeon was fun and unique. When it disappears in a week, it’ll leave us wanting more. That said, I’m am eager to return to Southsun for new content, whatever form it will take.

It left me wanting less. I can’t even bear to log in right now because I can’t finish my personal and F&F story due to the dungeons. They just sit there, on the top-right of my screen, mocking me. It’s destroyed all of my motivation to play.

Really? I don’t understand that. The dungeon isn’t extremely difficult if you’re well geared, (a prerequisite that is prettymuch assumed when you’re dealing with new endgame content) finding players isn’t particularly difficult (try your guild, friends list, lion’s arch map chat, or third party looking for group website), and the dungeon doesn’t take very long at all. You’ve still got a week to do it, too. This isn’t even mentioning the fact that it’s outright fun and features one of the coolest boss battles we’ve ever seen in guild wars 2.

Why are you unable to complete this content?

I had enough of 5 man dungeons in WoW. I came here to get away from that model. I played GW1 for years and never had to group to complete anything. Until the end of my personal and F&F storylines, I could solo the entire storylines. Now, my PERSONAL story will forever go uncompleted as well as the F&F storyline.

I don’t join guilds. I have no one on my friends list. I don’t beg and grovel others to carry me through content.

Don’t get me wrong; I like seeing other players in the game world. I like stopping in and helping them out, if I happen to pass by. I DO NOT like depending on them, begging them, hassling them, so that I may complete MY storylines.

If I wanted to party to run my dungeons, I would still be playing WoW.

Begging for a group? Hassling? What the frick?

Grouping is so easy and takes no effort at all. You don’t even need to talk to finish the place.

Perhaps its difficult for you because of your attitude? You don’t sound like an enjoyable person to be around to be honest.

We activated this guild challenge and the charrzooka’s would spawn, but the towers needed to be destroyed would not. The health bars are in the air, and can be targeted, but no damage can be done.

I play a power build. No condi duration. Bleed was always 1 second.

Is it glitched. At times no note effects will be present. Sometimes when I pull it out or attack they show up and stay, but can quickly disappear when I attack again. The only thing that’s consistant is the harp sound when you pull it out or switch weapons to it.

This video shows that tier != skill.

I have to agree with the previous posters, I enjoyed your other videos more. This one was painful to watch sometimes due to your enemies acting like bots.

Acension.9270:

Heya, I have never really played a necromancer so there are some things i’m unsure about before I make one.

• Are they wanted in dungeons and how good are they in them?
• Can they dash out a lot of DPS and can they tank well.
• Last thing. How are they in boss battles, like dragons and stuff.

Thanks

• Necro’s are great in dungeons. You might have an issue if you and another party member are condi builds. I myself play a meleemancer and I don’t have issues.

• There’s a couple of builds that you can tank with, they are buried in this forum. A couple of videos too. I’m a bit lazy right now, but if you search this forum for -tank- you should find the threads I speak of.

As for dishing out lots of DPS, it’s not so much. Sure a wellomancer can root a dude and plop wells down for a good amount of burst, but that’s an ideal situation that doesn’t always present itself. Does it have the insta gib potential of a thief? Definitely not. I like to think of the necro as an axe chopping down a tree. We chip away at them slowly while taking their abuse until they run out of tricks to use and then either run (which we have good chase) and die, or just die in defeat. We win fights with sustain, not front loading damage.

• Boss fights are pretty easy in my opinion. It doesn’t take much (for any class really) to do well. For dragons and other world bosses all you really need to do is auto attack with staff and you get credit. But in dungeons necro’s can provide some good utility for the rest of the group. Protection, condi stripping for both bosses and allies, some builds can heal well, etc. It really all depends on what you as a necro want to do. There are ways to do everything effectively.

All in all, the necro is a great class right now. The only thing that I think the necro cannot do well is reliable burst and minions have some issues with 30+ fractals but who does those anyways :P

Thumbs up. Good job!

Bas.7406:

Ah, the trolls are strong in this one. I opened it up expected complaints was met with it, when Andele attempts to help, the Dredlord raises his sarcastic head from the grave to help his minions :P.

I am going to make one comment and the disappear from this den of horrors.

Fear is the Number one most complained about Condition in the entire game by every class not named Necromancer. We want it stronger, every other class wants it gone. Take a listen to the Mesmer Podcast coming out on Monday. The top Mesmers, hate fear, they absolutely despise it almost as much as we despise thief invisibility.

People complain about our fear? Really?! I guess condition builds would warrent a complaint, but I barely even use mine givin’ im using a meleemancer build

I have the Minstrel and I love it.

Working on Frostfang and Incinerator simultaneously.

I couldn’t care less with the necro look/theme. I’m a charr with blue hair with pink/blue/yellow/purple armor

Talentless.5708:

Zubei.9647:

Talentless.5708:

traits: 15/20/0/15/20

If true, im guessing

15 – Spiteful Talisman
20 – Terror, Spectral Attunment
0 –
15 – Bloodthirst
20 – Spectral Mastery, Unyielding blast

Not sure If I personally would put 15 into Spite since im not sure how much the minor trait really helps.. or if your just trying to gain the extra power and condi duration, maybe put 10 for Talisman and bring Blood Magic to 20 for either Dagger Mastery or Vampiric Precision. Then again im a total noob Necro so I could be totally off. Either way that video makes Necros.. or that spec in general look totally killer.

Very close

Spite line is for focus cd and increased range. Unfortunately that trait is bugged so you dont get the 150% damage from spinal shivers. Also, Terror is nice, but not as nice as chilling folks who happen to get blinded…

I much prefer the spec you are using in your first video here. It’s loads better than what I was using before. Thanks for it!

Talentless.5708:

traits: 15/20/0/15/20

Sneaky. But you can’t fool me!

I was seriously about to make a post about this.

A risen told me he will send me to shake hands with Tybalt!

This is an awesome change. I was completely shocked

kazi.6438:

I don’t attack other players in the JP by default. If someone is dumb enough to attack me, I kill them. If you’re even semi-skilled at WvW, it’s really easy to kill the trolls in the JP. They’re generally the people who weren’t good enough to get badges the old-fashioned way (straight-up combat). If there’s a group of them camping, party up with others who died to them and go wipe them. This isn’t rocket science.

Off-topic, but whenever I kill a JP camper or heartseeker thief, I /laugh and frolic around their body until they leave. Making these people feel bad about themselves is almost like doing a favor for the WvW community.

Actually the people in the JP are more than likely people who enjoy 1v1 or small group fights instead of zerging around WvW.

I do find it hilarious you insult people who kill others in the JP and saying they can’t get badges by being real men, yet you yourself are in the puzzle getting free badges by jumping up a puzzle. Hypocrite much?

nerva.7940:

I want to roll a necro but am discouraged. Still welcoming responses from people with basic reading comprehension

I love these threads.

Fun is subjective. Someone telling you you will enjoy something is pointless.

Maybe roll one yourself and do your own research?

bhagwad.4281:

Fortunately I’ve met a lot of intelligent people who realize it’s a waste of time fighting in JPs. We just cautiously move around each other and we both benefit. Enemy or not, in the long run cooperation pays off.

Those who fight in JPs are pretty much tools of Anet. They fight….because Anet tells them to. Because the other guy is red. Meaning if their own teammates were red they would mindlessly go into a berserk rage and try to kill or die themselves. Can’t reason with these guys.

Unfortunately irrational people end up ruining it for those who are more sensible. Lots of us come to WvW just for the badges and we all benefit by getting what we want. In addition, killing someone actually has a pretty kittenty badge drop rate. The risk/reward ratio is extremely poor.

So for those who fight “just because it’s red”, consider that you’re being manipulated. You fight just because you’re told to fight. You say it’s a PvP map. So what? It doesn’t force you to do anything. If you feel compelled to be belligerent just because of a color…well then you’re a tool. It’s as simple as that.

So I’ve learnt that when I do JPs as a mesmer, I equip my focus and coolly pull off the ledge those who attack me. I’m not interested in killing them – not worth my time. They’re just annoyances to be gotten rid of when they come between me and my badges.

So please – don’t waste my time attacking me in JPs. Be a bit sensible and we’ll all get what we came here for without any pesky situations along the way.

This is a perfect example as to why I camp the JP. Keep on coming inside.

Pustulio.8207:

rootnode.9546:

Loot is still crap. Uuuuuh, a champion will drop a guaranteed blue? Awesome….not! At least give us greens for god’s sake!

Agreed. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES, should a “Champ” drop anything LESS than a green…And, don’t even get me started on the “Dragons”…that’s a mess that needs MASSIVE attention.

Dragons are an afk fest. If you think you deserve a rare and exo each time then they’d have to make the fights significantly harder to match. The loot atm is fitting for the difficulty right now.

tigirius.9014

Honestly the community deserves an apology from everyone who told the community that it was our imaginations that the loot had changed.

Um, it’s their game. We don’t run it, they do. Why would they need to apologize for something they didn’t know about until now. They made a mistake, but it doesn’t mean they need forgiveness.

tah.1980:

Nibiru.1423:

Come on guys, you all moan yet you all do them anyway.

No I don’t. I refuse to use ill-conceived, incomplete systems. I have been boycotting FotM since its release too for instance.

Nibiru.1423:

If you dont want to do them, dont do them lol??

Dailies was one of the last things I still did with any regularity. Now this experience has been ruined for me. This may sound over dramatic, but it’s how I feel about it.

ANet made a mistake. Again.
They released another game feature incomplete (like the ascendance gear/FotM fiasco). Again.

I don’t understand them. You’d think they would have learned from their mistakes.

If you think Anet will just mail you items without you lifting a finger you are sadly delusional.

Rezzing Npcs count for the achievement people.

Dailies still completely soloable.

Since when do you need a group to do dailies?

Looks like another week of PvE for Yaks. Which is sad because the last few weeks have been horrible for us. I can only hope we don’t lose too many people from transfers.

Btw Kaineng, if you want any kind of action besides attacking doors all week, it would help if you didn’t camp the PK for hours.

Thanks.

Clovers are meant to be obtained throughout a year, not a week.

Efface.8460:

koopatroopa.5360:

Caliburn.1845:

Sol.4317:

Gotta say that i’m getting pretty disheartened with the whole pvdoor scenario. last night before i crashed we had DB and EB solidly behind us.

YB did have a decent lead, and you guys came out swinging hard at the reset.

But the majority of that lead stems from the tactical decision by Dragonbrand to only flex NA guilds in three maps. We decided to leave YB bl alone for the evening, and EBay apparently followed suit or had trouble setting up any kind of foothold there.

Had Dragonbrand decided to flex major forces into YB bl, and leave EBay bl alone for reset night the score would have been closer.

EBay is still trying to dislodge DB from their homeland as we speak.

How is that a “tactical decision” when DB can clearly outnumber both servers combined during off peak hours?

You can do as much tactical decision making all you want during the day, it doesn’t change that fact that your server is playing PvE mode at night.

Whether u wanna believe it or not, these kinda cancerous thoughts directly, and indirectly, impact the success or failure of your peers… Buck up lil trooper and keep fighting, you have some good players in your game, no need dis their efforts

The fact that DB can own all 4 maps at once during the night without any resistance is what is impacting the success or failure of my peers. Its a simple fact really. They get more points at night than anyone during the day. Unfortunately that’s the way to goes with this matchup.

Caliburn.1845:

Sol.4317:

Gotta say that i’m getting pretty disheartened with the whole pvdoor scenario. last night before i crashed we had DB and EB solidly behind us.

YB did have a decent lead, and you guys came out swinging hard at the reset.

But the majority of that lead stems from the tactical decision by Dragonbrand to only flex NA guilds in three maps. We decided to leave YB bl alone for the evening, and EBay apparently followed suit or had trouble setting up any kind of foothold there.

Had Dragonbrand decided to flex major forces into YB bl, and leave EBay bl alone for reset night the score would have been closer.

EBay is still trying to dislodge DB from their homeland as we speak.

How is that a “tactical decision” when DB can clearly outnumber both servers combined during off peak hours?

You can do as much tactical decision making all you want during the day, it doesn’t change that fact that your server is playing PvE mode at night.

Arenanet knows the culling (people not loading) is an very important issue and they are working on it diligently. A time frame when it will be fixed is unknown, but we are all hoping in the Feb WvW update.

Awesome. Another week of having all our efforts completely negated by DB’s night(their day) crew.

I play the tankcat build and a p/p elixir build and I do quite well with both. People are surprised when they die to an engineer.

There are still builds out there that are highly effective. Do not listen to the naysayers.

I played a mantra build on release and while it was great dps with Gsword +s/p, the fact that you continuously had to recharge, usually during a fight too, was too much of a hassle. Why work extra hard just to keep up when you can play a standard build? Just to be unique? Those questions ran through my head all the time.

Casting time should be very small if traited. They should also be recharging automatically. Many, many, many times I’d have 1 charge left and had to recast just so I’d have full charges again. If its your heal mantra you are basicaly screwed if you don’t pay attention to that.

Yes. You can thank Osicat for that though. His build is constantly bumped on the first page so naturally it’s going to be copied. It’s a good build though; with obvious flaws, so I can understand why so many people flock to it.

I enjoy killing them with my build, however.

Lanimal.6541:

I just want to say that CF or CM guild (Crime something…) on Yaks is probably individually the most skilled rival guild I have faced as a TC-er, every time i see their tag I know I am going to have a tough fight on my hands. They don’t seem to have that many members but each member seems to bring the pain.

Recently I went up against a fellow mesmer of theirs who was camping the EB JP and he is one of the very few mesmers over the course of WvWvW (from launch) who has beaten me in a straight up duel.

/bow,
Theon

That was meee! Btw, you are incredibly hard to kill. After our duel my hands were shaking. I don’t normally have trouble with other mesmers but kitten dude, you are a beast.

Legendaries are meant to take longer than 3 months to make.

[Edited by CC: Inappropriate formatting]

Hsinimod.5784:

koopatroopa.5360:

ykyk.2740:

koopatroopa.5360:

fenim.2395:

I’m not butthurt. I made this thread so that you guys would all fuss and it would get the attention of arenanet and they would look at my suggestion of having a siege safe zone. As someone put in this thread shooting fish in a barrel is not competitive PVP. Spamming the arena entrance with a ballista and an arrowcart doesn’t take skill.

Also I’m all for trolling in the JP just not for siege in the JP. By all means have players able to duke it out and push people off, that is fun.

But when it comes to the point of

how did u like not havng access to the chest for 7 hours i sure enjoyed it

because someone set up siege it just means that if someone is dedicated enough they could camp the whole thing for a year without dying. Perhaps botters want to set up siege and farm badges. Its quite possible.

As for your video, it is well done and contains little to no siege(except golem)because people don’t want to watch someone shooting a ballista all day.

We prevented people from getting badges and blueprints that could potentially be used against our server. We did a service.

What you didn’t prevent was your server getting wiped off the map in EBG.

Always funny when people from losing servers justify puzzle camping with “we are denying siege”. It’s your freedom to have fun in your own way at the expense of your server, but it’s everyone’s freedom to openly laugh at you when you try to make a thing out of it

Hmmm… centralized pvp that requires actually using skill to fight where you can potentially have an equal playing field, or, zerging towers to lose them 10 minutes later and getting killed by invisible players due to rendering.

Regardless of siege or not, EB puzzle still has the best pvp in the game.

Tough choice.

lol. You are saying there is balanced skilled fighting to be had inside the jump puzzle? Oh boy, that is some strong denial.

You’re doing it at off-peak hours. There is no skill involved. It is 10-20 [ct] members jumping 1 solo player from FA or TC.

FA and TC can hold the map AND jump puzzle during peak hours. And they actually need to fight over it and use skill.

As far as I’ve seen, [ct] shows up when it is easy. That’s smart. Avoid all fighting in pvp. Just, not my taste to do pvp without p v p.

Group of 4-5 doesn’t equal 10-20.

We play at night because we are available to play at night.

We have had many even fights, too many to count.
So, make up more stuff.

Hsinimod.5784:

Onixxx.9725:

LOL guys why so butthurt? CrimeThink all the way u just jelly u cant own the puzzle like we do. how did u like not havng access to the chest for 7 hours i sure enjoyed it

It’s also why their server loses all the time. Let them camp the jump puzzle.

It is the only thing they can do in WvW.

Server losing on the shoulders of just 5 people!

Didn’t realize we were so important to the cause.

ykyk.2740:

koopatroopa.5360:

fenim.2395:

I’m not butthurt. I made this thread so that you guys would all fuss and it would get the attention of arenanet and they would look at my suggestion of having a siege safe zone. As someone put in this thread shooting fish in a barrel is not competitive PVP. Spamming the arena entrance with a ballista and an arrowcart doesn’t take skill.

Also I’m all for trolling in the JP just not for siege in the JP. By all means have players able to duke it out and push people off, that is fun.

But when it comes to the point of

how did u like not havng access to the chest for 7 hours i sure enjoyed it

because someone set up siege it just means that if someone is dedicated enough they could camp the whole thing for a year without dying. Perhaps botters want to set up siege and farm badges. Its quite possible.

As for your video, it is well done and contains little to no siege(except golem)because people don’t want to watch someone shooting a ballista all day.

We prevented people from getting badges and blueprints that could potentially be used against our server. We did a service.

What you didn’t prevent was your server getting wiped off the map in EBG.

Always funny when people from losing servers justify puzzle camping with “we are denying siege”. It’s your freedom to have fun in your own way at the expense of your server, but it’s everyone’s freedom to openly laugh at you when you try to make a thing out of it

Hmmm… centralized pvp that requires actually using skill to fight where you can potentially have an equal playing field, or, zerging towers to lose them 10 minutes later and getting killed by invisible players due to rendering.

Regardless of siege or not, EB puzzle still has the best pvp in the game.

Tough choice.

fenim.2395:

I’m not butthurt. I made this thread so that you guys would all fuss and it would get the attention of arenanet and they would look at my suggestion of having a siege safe zone. As someone put in this thread shooting fish in a barrel is not competitive PVP. Spamming the arena entrance with a ballista and an arrowcart doesn’t take skill.

Also I’m all for trolling in the JP just not for siege in the JP. By all means have players able to duke it out and push people off, that is fun.

But when it comes to the point of

how did u like not havng access to the chest for 7 hours i sure enjoyed it

because someone set up siege it just means that if someone is dedicated enough they could camp the whole thing for a year without dying. Perhaps botters want to set up siege and farm badges. Its quite possible.

As for your video, it is well done and contains little to no siege(except golem)because people don’t want to watch someone shooting a ballista all day.

We prevented people from getting badges and blueprints that could potentially be used against our server. We did a service.

Senjun.8149:

Why am i not surprised a guild who camps a jumping puzzle thinks anyone even recognizes them? You know like 95% of the time when tarnished coast see’s your guild camping they constantly think and say over chat it’s fort aspenwood? It’s because you’re insignificant and you make no impact on pvp at all and we will continue to thrash your server in wvwvw till you learn to play properly.

BTW that 5v5 in arena was fun, even though you guys got absolutely massacred. Worse thief/guardian ive ever fought, next time i go back remind me to send you guys a gift basket for the free kills :] and trust me… none of the others thought you guys were any good at all and we completely forget about you FA GODS guild… now when they camp JP thats a fight to behold, unlike the amateurs yaksbend can conjure up

Pretty sure there was no 5v5 fight were we died. In fact, none of us died the entire time.

The point of camping the puzzle is to make people mad, and you are clearly mad.

Mission accomplished.

We have other illusion creating abilites. You still have access to all the secondary benefits from illusions.

Use them.

wads.5730:

koopatroopa.5360:

The change makes sense. If you dodge an attack, it doesn’t spawn an illusion. I’m not sure why there’s such an outrage.

Shatter builds arent really affected with this change simply because dodging and other utilites create clones anyways. Lots of times my shatters were on cooldown so clones were blowing up due to recycling.

I’m not too worried about this change.

no, if you dodge an attack, you should dodge the attack the illusion attacks you with. not dodge the illusion entirely.

We have many ways to create illusions. They can’t be immune to them all. Instead of spamming our summoning, we have to be more aware. Not sure why thats a problem.

ddoi.9264:

koopatroopa.5360:

Seraph.8293:

mongolianmisfit.8350:

Ding ding!

I also find it unfair that we are being pigeon holed into what ANet wanted the mesmer to be. Actually, with all these ridiculous changes (mostly nerfs) back to back, they didn’t even know what they wanted. Seems like we have more than worked wonders for this class, and because of some spvp and wvw issues, everyone has to suffer. Anymore negative changes, and you might as well call us useless.

Time Warp. Feedback. Nul Field. Illusion of Life. Portal still shines when you do it right. Stuff like that.

But seriously, beyond that one elite and a few utility skills I’m hard pressed to think of a reason I’d want a Mesmer in my group over a Guardian, Ele, or Ranger.

Weren’t Mesmer already the lowest population class?

If by lowest you mean one of the highest, then yes.

Really? I run around openworld PvE a lot and hardly see any mesmers. Even in highly populated DE’s like Modnir Overlord event, Tequatl or Orr I was lucky to see more than one more mesmer compared to a crapload of warriors/guardians/elementalists/rangers.
I can see why there would be a lot for PvP, but for PvE…definately the lowest population.

I guess it depends on the servers. My server there is quite a lot PvE side. From my experience with sPvP and WvWvW there has been a significant amount too, especially in the last couple of weeks. Necro and engi’s I rarely see.

Seraph.8293:

mongolianmisfit.8350:

Ding ding!

I also find it unfair that we are being pigeon holed into what ANet wanted the mesmer to be. Actually, with all these ridiculous changes (mostly nerfs) back to back, they didn’t even know what they wanted. Seems like we have more than worked wonders for this class, and because of some spvp and wvw issues, everyone has to suffer. Anymore negative changes, and you might as well call us useless.

Time Warp. Feedback. Nul Field. Illusion of Life. Portal still shines when you do it right. Stuff like that.

But seriously, beyond that one elite and a few utility skills I’m hard pressed to think of a reason I’d want a Mesmer in my group over a Guardian, Ele, or Ranger.

Weren’t Mesmer already the lowest population class?

If by lowest you mean one of the highest, then yes.

The change makes sense. If you dodge an attack, it doesn’t spawn an illusion. I’m not sure why there’s such an outrage.

Shatter builds arent really affected with this change simply because dodging and other utilites create clones anyways. Lots of times my shatters were on cooldown so clones were blowing up due to recycling.

I’m not too worried about this change.

Volomon.9147:

I think everyone’s missing the point entirely, most counter arguments are based on you should have known better, it’s gambling, to you should enjoy the game without the gem store.

None of which respond to the main point, which is the value of the gem store and it’s fair and equal value to the money you put in it. I’m glad everyone sees an alternative namely avoiding it. That doesn’t address the point, some of us WANT to support ANET. I gave them that money like I would give a kickstarter company money it’s an investment, but it doesn’t hurt to see some return for my investment. That is the point. It isn’t sololy the chest though that is the main reason I purchased them it’s the alternative. If I took that same money and spent it at a gold farmer I would have the skin and have twice (possibly three times) as many gems as I would have if I purchased them directly from ANET.

That’s my point there needs to be a fair and equal value for my money. Ultimately the point of the store was to finance ANET (even though they want to pretend it’s not), and to remove the gold farmer equation.

On average per day I find 3-9 bots and report them ( don’t ask me why they come in pairs of three ), I go out of my way to support ANET I just expect an equal turn about.

The main point is that your view of the gem store is skewed and flawed. I’m sure you would be thinking quite differently if you achievement what you were trying to get (ie skins).

The store is fair and is equal to the value you put into it. You bought keys to open chests. You did just that. The contents of the chest has nothing to do with the fact that you bought the keys with gems. That was your return investment. You got keys.

Buying gold from farmers doesn’t make your point any more valid. Just because thy are setting the price for gold doesn’t mean Anet has to bend over for them and adjust their gem prices. Its their game for crying out loud.

You mentioned buying the skins again. Its quite apparent that you are trying to mask your main issue, which is not value or return, its the fact you didn’t get what you wanted.