As a base power necro who runs axe/focus, the changes are nice to life blast, ghastly claws, and spinal shivers. But I might be the only one in the game who is going to see those as a practical boost.
The blighting tower is the event right before killing the mouth. It’s the part where you are running around killing adds while the other group is in the middle killing the boss. You can only reach this event by participating in the map meta event or get lucky and join a map already in progress.
It’s a tough fight, but what I do is charge in with gear shield (which you should do with every fight imo) because natural reaction is to blow your load in the beginning. Blocking a lot of his inital attacks (like plague signet) will leave him on some long cooldowns. After this you unload, drop your elite to stun then magnet when the stun is over so he’d have some time for the conditions to do their work. By this time he will use his heal an depending on your set up you will likely have your skills up as well as gear shield.
You just dance around him since a necro has bad mobility and keep poison/burning up. Chain your cc’s and hope for the best!
I’m really not surprised anymore that our class gets shafted. It’s like a running joke in the Anet office it seems. Giving out nice backpieces that I never see, having a legendary I never see, and nice ascended weapons that are useless to us.
Without condi dmg or duration I’m not sure how that new build is better than your orignal. Where exactly is your damage? The main thing about the apoth is you got your pistols, bombs, EG doing your damage while providing survivability. With the cleric build, your damage is gone from these, just leaving survivability.
Without duration your CC doesn’t stick so how can you keep people in your bombs? Also how is your new build better in health regen if its the same trait setup with less healing power and no dwayna runes?
It seems to me the cleric build is a bit off but then again I’m not an expert. I thought bombs was wasted without condi damage and rifle without precision.
I just discovered this build and tried it out. I have a few questions.
How do you deal with mass conditions like necros and other engineers? You claim it can beat every class and build yet these 2 builds just destroy me.
Also, how do handle the constant stunning/knockbacks that’s currently popular with no stability and 1 stun breaker?
Do you have any videos of your playstyle? I’m fairly new to bombs and have ran HGH for the longest time and I thought I’d try something different. I enjoy this build but I seem to have better luck with my previous one so I’m wondering if I’m doing something wrong. Majority of my 1vX fights consist of getting stunned/feared/knockbacked to oblivion.
Thanks.
Idk. Just dodge, you have perma vigor. Really get good at kiting. Even though bombs are melee, you can still kite just out of melee range. Remember to swap kits constantly. Im never in one kit for more than 5 seconds. Necros are pretty tough for anyone. Just try to use LoS and blinds effectively. Also protection injection FTW.
As for winning 1vXs only against bads and uplevels, everyone knows it is literally impossible to win a 1vx against people of the same skill level. I didnt say i win every 1vX, but i do win a fair amount. You still have to play smart. Unlike a warrior.
If i made a video, youd see me dodging pretty much whenever i can, never really staying above 50% health, never dipping much below 20% either, applying all the soft CC and kiting melee, and swapping kits every couple seconds.
I had a much better day today. instead of being in their faces like I thought I should be I tried the kiting around and it went way better. Now I see what you mean.
To the group of Yaks roamers on EB BL, Do you seriously have to have a dance party on my body when you kill me AFK, its like all yaks are just really bad at roaming and just zerg it up, and all the roamers are complete kittens to the commanders on the other server. I was actually commanding and here there is a 5 man Yak gank group full of zerker thieves that laugh at my body when they can’t fight me fairly. Yak’s Bend has probably the most kitten roamers I have seen to date, even worse than BP.
and this is just preparation for SBI next week, I think of Zerg’s Bend as a warmup.
Roaming in a group is not about finding ‘fair fights’. It’s about not fighting zergs. While laughing and dancing on your body is a kitten move I agree, is it really something to get worked up over and to start generalizing an entire server?
I roam solo exclusively and show some class, but ‘red is dead’ and I will do what it takes to make that so.
I just discovered this build and tried it out. I have a few questions.
How do you deal with mass conditions like necros and other engineers? You claim it can beat every class and build yet these 2 builds just destroy me.
Also, how do handle the constant stunning/knockbacks that’s currently popular with no stability and 1 stun breaker?
Do you have any videos of your playstyle? I’m fairly new to bombs and have ran HGH for the longest time and I thought I’d try something different. I enjoy this build but I seem to have better luck with my previous one so I’m wondering if I’m doing something wrong. Majority of my 1vX fights consist of getting stunned/feared/knockbacked to oblivion.
World 1 and its achievements were still available when World 2 was release. I see no reason why they would change their thinking regarding the future World releases.
The issues i see with this build compared to the typical HGH build is that you are trying to cash in to boons but your trade off is survivability and damage. Your might stacks will be low, your cleansing is low, and you dont have tool kit so you are relying on elixir S to soak up damage. Once you use that you will drop. Cloaking Device is a must imo, as well as coated bullets. I’d also get rid of one of your elixir traits for the cleaning conditions then you can get rid of elixir C for toolkit or rocket boots. I think you’d be in a good position then.
Of course this is all my opinion based on using this in WvW.
The current meta hgh build is, have self respect and don’t HGH.
wth does that even mean? Theres nothing wrong with playing HGH.
I currently use 10/20/10/30/0
V
II or VI, VII
VI
II, VIII, XI
Elixir H, B, S, and toolkit
Works very well. Get the buff duration runes, and you will be stacking might like crazy.
What is your play style/gear with that build? I’m surprised you are not going for cripple on toolkit hit.
My gear is carrion with a few rampager. I dont take Power Wrench because I’m not auto attacking with the tool kit very much. The other 4 skills I use consistantly though.
Basically you drink/throw elixirs before a fight, magnet, pry bar, blow torch and drop the rest of your pistol skills using gear shield and your cripples to kite around with elixir S to stomp or evade damage. I switch to a shield when dealing with thieves though as blasting them out of a shadow refuge is glorious.
It can be tricky at first managing your elixirs and throws but usually a fight doesnt last longer than one rotation of drinks.
The Minstrel is by far the most underwhelming. Foci have probably the most diverse range of skins in the game and its not hard to find something that looks much more epic than The Minstrel. It would be improved immensely with the addition of a unsheathing animation and persistent aura. A sound playing when drawn would be very appropriate.
Meteorologicus is fine IMO. It’s gaudy and over the top, and adding more will not make it any better.
While I agree with this thread completely as I have the Minstrel, there are a few points that are overlooked regarding this legendary.
It has a harp sound when you attack, but the volume of it is very low. It also produces notes when you move around, but the intensity of it seems very random. Sometimes the notes are abundant, and other times its like 1 or 2 notes and then stops completely.
I think if they make the harp sound much louder, and the notes consistant and bigger, it would greatly increase the appeal.
Glad it’s not just me having these experiences with DB. On the rare occasions you can catch a few of them alone, they run to the nearest camp/tower/whatever and wait for their 80 man zerg to show up and save them. I usually roam around alone or with a group of 3 or 4 other people max trying to look for decent fights. We usually run into groups of 10 or so DB people roaming and try to fight them. EVERY SINGLE TIME, they run away from us and try to head to siege or guards and without fail, moments later a huge red blob comes to their rescue and we all get swarmed and then they laugh and dance. Is there anyone on DB who isn’t a total coward and is willing to actually fight without an army, and siege, and guards backing them up? I have yet to find any.
Yeah sorry, we were all busy playing, ya know, WvW.
You guys have more points than Yb and Mag combined. I think it’s safe for you guys to relax, move away from hitting doors and I dunno, have fun fighting people?
I’ll take any T2 server over Dragonbrand next week. At least FA and TC aren’t complete garbage and have a roaming population that’s larger than 0 people. The only saving grace DB has is [NS]. Other than that it’s a bunch of terrible zerglings that run when the fight is 5v10 and chase 50v5 for 10 minutes straight.
Wow! You seem like a great fellow who has had an experience with every single DB player on our server. I am so glad you didn’t completely base your opinion of a sample population of those you have encountered. 10/10 Quality post would read again.
The forum needs more people like you. /salute
He has a point. As a roamer, I haven’t ran into anyone from DB thats interested in fighting without a zerg. When a DB is running to their zerg they just keep running away.
He, like myself, are just disappointed that your server doesn’t have a roaming population.
Have you seen [BURN] recently? Open field fighting is pretty much all we do, and we never run because its good skill group practice…
I hate to be ‘that guy’, but members of your guild do in fact run away.
I hate to be “that guy” too, but if your in a big Zerg and you run into a couple people in a camp, and they don’t stay and fight… I honestly don’t consider that running, more like putting the repair costs into a savings account for later.
I’m not in [BURN] but I do know that they don’t mind going into a fight undermanned.
As far as Yaks goes.. this is all I ever see them do.
Heated trolling between wagonuuma and swagonbrand, and that third server that the match thingy swears is participating.
considering the posts directly above yours I corrected it for accuracy.
edit: I do like how the 1 post from a YB player per page is usually taking a shot at mags…
It’s because all YB ever does is play for second place and tunnel-vision on Stonemist. Although, RAM was the go-to SM guild on YB, so maybe that’s changed. Too much Dragonbrand in this matchup to properly tell.
We don’t play for second place. We do, however, know what the matches will be like before they happen. We predicted Wagonbrand to dominate them doors while everyone is sleeping, and it was true. Nothing against them, its just their playerbase.
Week was decided when after the weekend wagonbrand had 4x the points of mag and yb. Now we are just goofing around waiting for that anticipated reset.
What’s with the ME obsession in this thread? They’re a good group of players, but I’ve never seen them singled out like this before.
It’s interesting how our best four or five guilds fill out a spectrum between extreme bowling ball and extreme kite. We all converse and borrow builds and ideas from each other, but our comps will always be different and we’ll always play differently.
Because they are the only ones who come out to fight in open field. And when they’re out, other mag guilds also grow some spine, and come out. Every other guild on Mags runs away from even even-numbered fights. Fact.
Mags would do well to learn from [ME].
Have you seen [BURN] recently? Open field fighting is pretty much all we do, and we never run because its good skill group practice…
I hate to be ‘that guy’, but members of your guild do in fact run away.
Meta = A general notion on which builds are based around that is on common ground to everyone. IE: CC stacking, high mobility teams, AoE teams, bunker teams.
Breaking the Meta = Going against this general notion to create a counter to the common ground, thus forming a new meta.
30/30/10 is not a meta. The burst/lockdown the build creates is part of the current meta.
I have been hit by thieves with those kinds of numbers and I agree it’s pretty crazy how fast they can dps you down. However, they are super easy to counter on an engineer. Gear shield or even elixir S can stop that theif opener and when they don’t see numbers, they freak out and either run or die.
I used to complain about thieves but now that I face them consistantly my win rate has gone straight up due to practice. I actually look for thieves to fight now since I have the confidence.
Phantasm mesmers and fear necros are a different story and are impossible to kill. I’d rather face thieves then those 2 builds anyday.
I’m glad the zergy people are having fun this matchup. From a roamer POV this has been the worse matchup I’ve ever seen. People are either running away, moving in groups of 10, or not being around completely.
Please pretty please. I enjoy it and it makes the sprint so much more fun, but then the theme we’ve heard so many times before comes on after and my smile is gone.
1. Don’t go in the first few days after new content is released. It will be camped.
2. Don’t go in on a weekend. Its generally the busiest.
3. Don’t go in mid afternoon/early evening. Thats generally when the chest resets for people.
4. Don’t go inside waving and bowing to everyone you see. You will get killed (I kill these people more than people who do nothing).
Here’s some points on how to do OS:
1. Early morning or late night are perfect times. I can do the puzzle and not run into a single person.
2. Don’t go in by yourself. Gankers will question jumping groups.
3. USE THE STEALTH. You can make it to dark room (and even the arena if you don’t need a torch) stealthed. There are 2 fountains before the well, and 1 past the arena. Dark room/arena should be your only difficulty ever.
4. If you are getting killed, take a breathe, and try again in an hour. If gankers don’t get kills they will leave. OS is very boring when there’s no one in it.
5. Hang around EB for a while before you go in. You might have a mesmer in there offering ports.
OS is doable for anyone, you just have to know the flow.
I don’t understand these threads. How can anyone convince you that something is fun/rewarding to play when those are both subjective? Why are you reluctant to play one? Are you going to suffer agonizing death if you try and don’t enjoy it?
If compared to a mesmer
Mobility = mesmer is better
Damage PvE = Necro does more
Dungeons = Doesnt matter, they are dungeons and can be played by anything
Support = Both have roughly the same effectiveness and bring different tools
PvP = both are good
WvW zerg = necro is better
WvW roam = mesmer is far better
WvW havoc = both have equal effectiveness
This guy just insults people left and right, calling them idiots, moronic, pathetic, etc and he expects people to become his ‘student’ and learn from him?
Set a good example if you ever want to be in a leadership role. I quite frankly have zero desire to learn anything from you with your kitteny attitude. Your name is a stain on the majority of the necro community and I can’t see how anyone would want to associate with such negativity and narcissism.
Ebay exploiting rezzing through walls to get inside bay.
Stay classy
They weren’t exploiting. This happened a lot in our matchup. It’s a bug due to the AoE looting which allows players to teleport past certain gates. Most common ones are NW tower in a BL and Overlook keep in Eternal.
Don’t hold it against them, after our long 13-week matchup, I don’t remember Ebay exploiting once. Then again.. they didn’t really need to.
No this has to do with rezzing someone on the other side of a wall.
