Guild Wars 2

Can someone explain to me how this skill works? Does it only destroy projectiles if you’re inside of it, and can projectiles go through it and hit you if you’re outside of the aoe?

Sagat.3285:

mrauls.6519:

Sebrent.3625:

If you’re having trouble against celestial builds, it’s likely because you’re having trouble against builds that are quite boon heavy.

Build to strip (or corrupt) boons and you’ll see these builds become much weaker.

I’ve tried that by adding in sigil of nullification to my sword, and by going 10 points into radiance for the boon stripping by burn application (10 second CD). It didn’t make a difference. Most classes have many ways to continue to apply might, regen, and even protection. If I was another profession maybe it would be easier to remove boons. I am a guardian

Exactly not all classes have access to quick boon refresh(spec). Who are you fighting and what build are you using?

The most prevalent professions I have issues with that can use celestial well are ele, engineer, and warrior, in that order. Here is the build I use for WvW, sPvP, and PvE

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dlsApWotCxfH8DRRCBljNY/hnnirDwCOAA-TxCFABNcQFA4BAUo6PXpEUgLAASK/c4IAkmuha2fggDUQGaYCAgAczbmNbzghO0hO0hO0+tv9tv9tvBA-e

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

One example of where you can see boons in a profession’s mechanic

Are you seriously suggesting that a “elixir” engineer build is a problem?

How many hours do you have playing one?

Hold on a minute, where did I ever say it was a problem? This, and I quote, is “One example of where you can see boons in a profession’s mechanic”. Please do not try to put words in my mouth.

Why use it as an example if it is not a problem?

I am still asking you to give us a break down of what skills and traits your suggesting are OP for the professions in conjunction with the amulet?

Okay, mate, you’re really getting off topic. In my original post I said,

“People playing professions that can might stack can make up for lost potential in damage stats very easily. Also, professions that have access to decent, or great regeneration and protection up-time can be extremely hard targets to kill thanks to those two boons.”

You’re going off on a tangent about something I didn’t personally bring up. I’m not targeting skills and traits in my OP. I’m bring up certain boons coupled with celestial amulet. You’re really being off topic in your posts, and I am not responding to anymore of your comments until we’re talking about points I brought up in my OP.

Sebrent.3625:

If you’re having trouble against celestial builds, it’s likely because you’re having trouble against builds that are quite boon heavy.

Build to strip (or corrupt) boons and you’ll see these builds become much weaker.

I’ve tried that by adding in sigil of nullification to my sword, and by going 10 points into radiance for the boon stripping by burn application (10 second CD). It didn’t make a difference. Most classes have many ways to continue to apply might, regen, and even protection. If I was another profession maybe it would be easier to remove boons. I am a guardian

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

One example of where you can see boons in a profession’s mechanic

Are you seriously suggesting that a “elixir” engineer build is a problem?

How many hours do you have playing one?

Hold on a minute, where did I ever say it was a problem? This, and I quote, is “One example of where you can see boons in a profession’s mechanic”. Please do not try to put words in my mouth.

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

You use this statement as justification

mrauls.6519:

I believe that the celestial amulet in sPvP is currently too powerful because of certain profession mechanics.

But what mechanics exactly are OP in this case?

As I’ve stated previously it’s certain boons coupled with the stat boosts of the amulet.

No, you very specifically stated “professional mechanics”. You very directly side stepped my question, why is that?

I did not side step your question. I answered.

Your question:
But what mechanics exactly are OP in this case?

My answer:
As I’ve stated previously it’s certain boons coupled with the stat boosts of the amulet.

If you felt like it lacked any information maybe your question should have been more specific or detailed.

What is more detailed? I asked which “professional mechanics” are a problem, and you very literally have not mentioned a single professional mechanic.

mrauls.6519:

@dancingmonkey.4902,

I’m not provoking or trying to be funny when I say this, but please read my OP and other posts I’ve made here so you understand what I’m advocating.

Then list the “professional mechanics” you feel are problematic.

Since when aren’t boons part of a profession’s mechanics? Each profession has certain boons they naturally utilize. You can read for yourself if this is something you feel is worth contributing to.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Profession_mechanic

Not to mention i was asking you which “mechanic” each profession is using that you take issue with? You simply made some general exclamation about boons. There has too be some skill or trait you are taking issue with. I am sure you can list them. If you cannot, then as far as I am concerned, you do not have enough knowledge of the professions to complain about them in any specific manner.

Look at my previous comment in this thread for where I find boons part of a profession’s mechanic. I have made no ‘exclamations’ since you want to be extremely technical. Boons that serve as issues when coupled with celestial amulet have already been discussed.

One example of where you can see boons in a profession’s mechanic

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

You use this statement as justification

mrauls.6519:

I believe that the celestial amulet in sPvP is currently too powerful because of certain profession mechanics.

But what mechanics exactly are OP in this case?

As I’ve stated previously it’s certain boons coupled with the stat boosts of the amulet.

No, you very specifically stated “professional mechanics”. You very directly side stepped my question, why is that?

I did not side step your question. I answered.

Your question:
But what mechanics exactly are OP in this case?

My answer:
As I’ve stated previously it’s certain boons coupled with the stat boosts of the amulet.

If you felt like it lacked any information maybe your question should have been more specific or detailed.

What is more detailed? I asked which “professional mechanics” are a problem, and you very literally have not mentioned a single professional mechanic.

mrauls.6519:

@dancingmonkey.4902,

I’m not provoking or trying to be funny when I say this, but please read my OP and other posts I’ve made here so you understand what I’m advocating.

Then list the “professional mechanics” you feel are problematic.

Since when aren’t boons part of a profession’s mechanics? Each profession has certain boons they naturally utilize. You can read for yourself if this is something you feel is worth contributing to.

Sagat.3285:

mrauls.6519:

Sagat.3285:

mrauls.6519:

The only reason those sigils, runes, and traits seem to get ridiculous is because of when they’re coupled with celestial amulet. If you went and nerfed those things the problem may be solved, but what about the people that weren’t relying on that one amulet? Celestial amulet is the main point of focus here. You have to look at how one action can lead to many consequences. Celestial amulet alone needs to be revised or possibly removed.

I haven’t seen celestial being viable or OP on all classes,until that happens celestial is fine especially in WvW. Until no more counter builds exist against them it’s fine.

What you’re saying, correct me if I’m wrong, is until celestial amulet is viable or OP on all professions, it should stay the same way it is. There are perhaps counter builds, but should people feel forced to run them? Though, that can also lead to saying no one is forced to do anything. But, what if everyone chooses to be competitive?

Then conquest becomes the problem, conditions specs exists,stun-lock specs exists,ranged burst was recently born does everyone runs full cleansing,break stun or reflect?

If this is a PvP issue your team is supposed to make up for your weaknesses and vice versa and completing your strength, if this is a 1v1 issue it’s not an issue.

I understand what you’re saying, but even in competitive play you’re sometimes put in a 1v1 situation. It may be an unfortunate turn of events for one of the players, but it does happen, and it can be an issue because of this. What do you mean by conquest?

@dancingmonkey.4902,

I’m not provoking or trying to be funny when I say this, but please read my OP and other posts I’ve made here so you understand what I’m advocating.

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

You use this statement as justification

mrauls.6519:

I believe that the celestial amulet in sPvP is currently too powerful because of certain profession mechanics.

But what mechanics exactly are OP in this case?

As I’ve stated previously it’s certain boons coupled with the stat boosts of the amulet.

No, you very specifically stated “professional mechanics”. You very directly side stepped my question, why is that?

I did not side step your question. I answered.

Your question:
But what mechanics exactly are OP in this case?

My answer:
As I’ve stated previously it’s certain boons coupled with the stat boosts of the amulet.

If you felt like it lacked any information maybe your question should have been more specific or detailed.

Eurantien.4632:

An engi OP thread and now this. People do have brains!!!! WTB hyrbid skills so I can get a free extra 900ish stats.

Are you in support of this topic?

Sagat.3285:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

There is no problem other then skewed perception if you ask me. As I see the amulet is fine. The individual might stacking is fine. The combination is fine.

What perception is skewed? Also, is it a positive or negative skewness? What is fine about being able to have both your offensive and defensive stats boosted in one go, and being able to extremely propel them forward even more with the right boons?

It is fine because the amulet sacrifices offense for defense and vice versa. It is the same old song and dance. Before they added this amulet everyone complained about a different amulet doing the same thing. All I am seeing here is regurgitation of what was stated in a previous thread, only a different amulets name.

Well, as I discussed in my OP, it does sacrifice quite a bit to gain a nice margin of everything. Some professions can make up for those loses through certain boons, and that is where the issue arises. I don’t see this as a topic that is negligible. I believe there is truth in what I am saying. I hear what you’re saying as well, but I believe this amulet needs to be reworked.

If the make up through boons is the issue why not reworked that instead of pushing those can’t make up for the loss farther away from the amulet?

I’m not trying to push anyone away from the amulet, I’m suggesting a rework of it. Certain boons only become an issue because of the amulet, so the amulet is the focus.

dancingmonkey.4902:

You use this statement as justification

mrauls.6519:

I believe that the celestial amulet in sPvP is currently too powerful because of certain profession mechanics.

But what mechanics exactly are OP in this case?

As I’ve stated previously it’s certain boons coupled with the stat boosts of the amulet.

Sagat.3285:

mrauls.6519:

The only reason those sigils, runes, and traits seem to get ridiculous is because of when they’re coupled with celestial amulet. If you went and nerfed those things the problem may be solved, but what about the people that weren’t relying on that one amulet? Celestial amulet is the main point of focus here. You have to look at how one action can lead to many consequences. Celestial amulet alone needs to be revised or possibly removed.

I haven’t seen celestial being viable or OP on all classes,until that happens celestial is fine especially in WvW. Until no more counter builds exist against them it’s fine.

What you’re saying, correct me if I’m wrong, is until celestial amulet is viable or OP on all professions, it should stay the same way it is. There are perhaps counter builds, but should people feel forced to run them? Though, that can also lead to saying no one is forced to do anything. But, what if everyone chooses to be competitive?

dancingmonkey.4902:

mrauls.6519:

dancingmonkey.4902:

There is no problem other then skewed perception if you ask me. As I see the amulet is fine. The individual might stacking is fine. The combination is fine.

What perception is skewed? Also, is it a positive or negative skewness? What is fine about being able to have both your offensive and defensive stats boosted in one go, and being able to extremely propel them forward even more with the right boons?

It is fine because the amulet sacrifices offense for defense and vice versa. It is the same old song and dance. Before they added this amulet everyone complained about a different amulet doing the same thing. All I am seeing here is regurgitation of what was stated in a previous thread, only a different amulets name.

Well, as I discussed in my OP, it does sacrifice quite a bit to gain a nice margin of everything. Some professions can make up for those loses through certain boons, and that is where the issue arises. I don’t see this as a topic that is negligible. I believe there is truth in what I am saying. I hear what you’re saying as well, but I believe this amulet needs to be reworked.

Shockwave.1230:

If there are truly other problem children besides D/D cele ele then they should nerf might stacking uptime somehow.

However, I think if you just don’t allow ele to gain 600 health per second while using lightning whip + stow weapon, that would significantly help balance out that build.

Ele has been brought up twice, and I do believe it benefits greatly from the amulet. Engineer, warrior, mesmer, thief (4/0/4/0/6), and ranger to do as well. If might stacking is indeed nerfed it would lead to other repercussions, such as some professions being significantly weaker using any amulet.

dancingmonkey.4902:

There is no problem other then skewed perception if you ask me. As I see the amulet is fine. The individual might stacking is fine. The combination is fine.

What perception is skewed? Also, is it a positive or negative skewness? What is fine about being able to have both your offensive and defensive stats boosted in one go, and being able to extremely propel them forward even more with the right boons?

The only reason those sigils, runes, and traits seem to get ridiculous is because of when they’re coupled with celestial amulet. If you went and nerfed those things the problem may be solved, but what about the people that weren’t relying on that one amulet? Celestial amulet is the main point of focus here. You have to look at how one action can lead to many consequences. Celestial amulet alone needs to be revised or possibly removed.

Hello everyone,

I believe that the celestial amulet in sPvP is currently too powerful because of certain profession mechanics. People playing professions that can might stack can make up for lost potential in damage stats very easily. Also, professions that have access to decent, or great regeneration and protection up-time can be extremely hard targets to kill thanks to those two boons. It’s an experience breaking amulet, because in the hands of a player who would otherwise not be at a certain skill threshold, their abilities are boosted up.

I believe that each amulet should focus on a small number of stats to boost. You can’t compare just amulets to one another in this situation. You have to look at how things play out in real situations rather than debating this subject on paper. Celestial amulet is too great utility of a utility in its current state. Something needs to be done.

I’m interested in hearing all constructive feedback. Whether it supports or denies my claims will not upset me. Let’s all be honest and real with one another.

The GW2 client won’t auto log me in anymore. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I typed the correct password in

There’s a troll going around where someone may ask you to open your TP and type moa. Don’t do it. It will d/c you. Cheers

Whirling wrath!

Anyone have any screenies

Looks to me like you’re twisting words to make it seem like it’s too much but in reality it’s not. I don’t feel DS is too powerful

I really think this shout shouldn’t have its boons’ durations reduced :| that is all

What is the boon removal priority rate of this sigil

Yup! Just got it and I like it

I was interested in seeing the combo I asked for cuz I wanted to see how the clipping look

Oops! Should have specified.

Heavy, please

I’m LF someone to post kitten of what an Asura looks like w Arah armor but w the phantom’s hood, please!

Malkavian.4516:

The Crystal Desert would be a good start. I know it’s a very hazardous place, but it’s a good start.

You should give some thought to whether or not you need to stop having so many alts or pick one alt as your ‘main’ and use it to grind the gold you need for exotics. Most of the content in this game was around when ascended didn’t exist

You also didn’t say what you’ve been farming and for how long

How I feel after winning a close fight

Tarsius.3170:

As i have often mentioned before, I would love it if they just made them summoned weapons which replace the guards weapon skills.

No dodgy and skillless AI, just some well needed depth to guardian game play and the potential for some interesting new builds

This would be amazing, and it could be like how engies equip and unequip kits…

Ahh, I’ve also thought it would be cool if we had an elite spirit weapon skill. Like it’s fast moving, fast pulsing, and has an ability we can press and it automatically doesn’t disappear…

Make Focus 4 more reliable

Pure of Voice removes or has a chance to remove 2 conditions

Make zeal minor 1 give swiftness on a 50% chance on hit type of condition w w/e type of cool down they want to give it

Zeal major slot 1 have a new trait that turns light fields into fire fields

Tom Yzf.5872:

Let me know if you want the original.

How you do dat thur o_o

I wish I could have killed or stopped phlunt from stealing the device

I gave it a shot on sword and I do think it lets you get some nasty damage out in a short amount of time, but it can sometimes be wasted.

Example: You can’t or choose not to connect w an enemy

Hi guys,

I know this isn’t GW2 related but I have an alarming issue. Someone has hacked my twitter, but I can still log in. The biggest part of the issue is that this person is posting tweets on my account and based on what they say I feel this person knows me irl. Even when I change my password that doesn’t force log them out, so I was wondering if deactivating and reactivating my twitter would do the trick. Would it cause it so the next time even if a device was logged into my account they have to enter a password this time?

Just make it so pure of voice removes two conditions and I’ll say no more

When people tell you to predict when thieves will use skills like shadow step, steal, cnd, and shadow stab they’re being realistic. You need to play against thieves for a while and you’ll realize just like an auto attack rotation there are moments those skills will be used. By blinding, blocking, or evading you’re giving yourself a higher chance of negating the skill at least. It really does require a feel for it

This may apply to every profession, but make sure you have keybinds that flow with what you’re doing in combat. I just changed my keybinds today and it has improved my performance A LOT. Other than that, focus on surviving while doing as much damage as you can by using blocks, blinds, and dodges properly. What made me the guardian I am now is constantly being open to advice and asking often for tips and tricks from players around me (like what you’re doing now). Don’t get discouraged from minor setbacks. Just came back harder! Good luck

Been waiting for this

Been chillin in this spot for a couple days while I hop into sPvP rooms

You must not have gone toe to toe w some seriously good players if you haven’t been in a fight that lasted longer than 25s 1v1

Buff shout guardians

ANet did an awesome job on making height differences apparent… I really understand the description of norns in the GW2 books now

I really think Rytlok knew what was going to happen. He didn’t go into specifics on how he obtained the weapon and the information on how to use it. He equated his life to the sword and quickly jumped into a gaping hole in the ground. I really feel like Rytlok is chasing power and wants to become the highest ranking Charr. Just my thoughts