Guild Wars 2

Randulf.7614:

Travis the Terrible.4739:

Harper.4173:

Dasenthal.6520:

Harper.4173:

zaced.7948:

Harper.4173:

We’ll get back at the Charr for what they did.

taking back what was rightfully theirs? all your puny race could do they have already done. if a massive suicide attack is your best than the feline magnificence has nothing to fear.

If you knew your Guild Wars history you’d know that the land was never theirs. The Charr came from the Northern areas and spread south taking over the land that belonged to the Grawl which were the original race that inhabited that region. They enslaved the Grawl and took the land for themselves.

They weren’t there originally.

Later the humans came and took the land from the Charr pushing them back north.

So if the Charr can push, conquer and call it "Charr land " then by the same rules the humans pushing back the Charr and conquering the area makes it “Human land”.

Also you owe a lot to humans. Don’t forget it was humans who were crucial to your race being set free from their “false gods” and the leadership of the Flame Legion shamans.

No, it means by the same logic if the grawl had risen up and attacked the charr with armies (and tactics I.e. searing) we would be defending their right to do so… Just like we defend the charr.

Charr being set free is almost as beneficial to the Humans as it was to the charr. If the charr still accepted false gods it would likely mean zhaitan would still be alive.

Trying to spin this around – but we hardly knew of the elder dragons when the movement started by Pyre Fierceshot took place.

Then explain the great destroyer?

At the time we didnt know the great destroyer was a dragon champion or even elder dragons existed. That knowledge came later. Im sure the lore experts can detail that more

Silly dwarves thought that the great destroyer was the all mighty dragon that their god fought

Etienne.3049:

zaced.7948:

taking back what was rightfully theirs?

Destroying Ascalon, forcing Khilbron to destroy Orr and helping the Mursaat take over Kryta?

The king truly destroyed ascalon, abbandon tricked both charr and khilbron, orr was going to sink either way, saul led foriegn unknown creatures right to Kryta

Kentrey.3251:

pandas.9450:

Sounds like a gem shop golden fat cow scheme

Thats the beauty of the idea!!! It would be! But thats why its so enjoyable. I Look at the gem store now and its Consumable i don’t need, Weapons i don’t want, and skins i don’t like. Having another way of using gems would entice me to shop there more not only that but the more mundane things like boss head trophies, trees, pvp dummies, a lot of different nodes so on and such would make for just great game rewards and have me going back to old zones to get all of these things

But here is the thing, they won’t be game rewards if not the minority of the things you mention will be game rewards. The majority of it will be gem store items

Sounds like a gem shop golden fat cow scheme

Well hoping with the introduction of raids wont ruin new chances for stuff lile tq/sw

Fashion Mage.3712:

pandas.9450:

facepalm yes destroy one of the best supports the game has by moving them behind zergs and “supporting” the safer ranging groups. You don’t need to be tester or w/e to know the healing is going to be crap,

Yes you do, now please take your ridiculous and baseless assumptions elsewhere. Even if the specialization is garbage, the guardian will be perfectly fine because the specialization is an alternative, not an upgrade (so normal guards are unaffected). Which most people seem to disregard for some reason. Either way, if the weapon is underpowered, then it must be balanced, but this is irrelevant to the overall argument for/against bows in terms of play style.

I don’t get why you put “supporting” in apostrophes as if it’s not true, since that’s exactly what the bow would be doing (in literally every sense of the word) with the skill set listed here. It heals, it debuffs, it buffs offensively/defensively, and it has offensive/defensive CC.

Healing is nothing special in the game and expecting it to be anything good is silly. The only benefits i see with bow is vul and knockdowns and tbh the curret sets handle that fine. Alternative only makes it sound for me anyways bowbearguardianedition, i never understood the hate for scepters for our ranging. Great in pvp and if you want pve

Fashion Mage.3712:

pandas.9450:

^ the range support I keep hearing sounds extremely bad, minimal healing from bow that will provide benefits for fleas, away from the front where walls and fire fields\condi cleanse are needed.

How do you know that the healing provided by the longbow would be “minimal healing” (even though healing isn’t the only thing it does in the slightest)? Are you a tester?
Is there something stopping guardians from using walls, fields, and cleansing from a distance?

Shanks.2907:

From what I read of the “leaked” longbow, I’m not impressed. Healing your team by shooting arrows through them at distance is terrible. It’s not effective at all and, though I hate saying this, is not very guardian like at all. I can’t believe I’m agreeing with Obtena but the guardian’s place is not behind the team shooting arrows to heal them. Besides, it would be repetitive as the staff already has a skill like that which isn’t very effective unless blown up.

How is firing off healing/light arrows not guardian-like? They can already do so indirectly with Bow of Truth. Taking a quick look at the longbow’s skills: 1/2 are damaging/healing light arrows, 3 is a burning/healing symbol of battle/energy, 4 is some light arrow thing attached with chains of light, 5 is the stance change. Light/healing arrows are guardian-like, don’t know why I even need to bother arguing that. Symbols are guardian-like. Chains of light are guardian-like. The whole bow being a very selfless weapon is guardian-like.

As for how effective it’ll be. Once again, are you a tester? Do you know how effective the healing arrows will be at healing? Do you know the damage/healing hitbox for the arrows? Do you know how much damage they do?
The guardian’s specialization’s place is wherever ANet wants it to be. Not that I believe normal guardians are only frontliners.

facepalm yes destroy one of the best supports the game has by moving them behind zergs and “supporting” the safer ranging groups. You don’t need to be tester or w/e to know the healing is going to be crap,

zaw.6741:

YuiRS.8129:

Amins.3710:

I really hope not…

Out of everything we could have gotten… a freak’n bow…

We already have a Bow…. BOW OF TRUTH… and it’s lame! Don’t add to the lame’ness!

Out of everything what exactly? Guns? An axe? Not very paladin-y, that.

its GUARDIAN, not PALADIN
why does everyone try to connect them so hard. guardian is guardian.
id much more prefer axe or warhorn, or at least shortbow (mainly cause there’s more cool shortbow skins). or going crazy – rifle or pistols shooting blue flames? offhand sword anyone…?

longbow is boring on both ranger and warrior. and im afraid it’d be as boring on guard.

^ the range support I keep hearing sounds extremely bad, minimal healing from bow that will provide benefits for fleas, away from the front where walls and fire fields\condi cleanse are needed. Axe seems better with hope for more DPs or bleeds…and the scepter is an amazing range weapon all the hate it gets ;-;

Still rooting for an axe even tho the chance is extremely unlikely :l

I generally try to do dungeons daily and see these kinds of threads constantly. Yet I have barely seen experience players flip but what I have seen more and more are new players go bananas because you try to teach them but apparently even any suggestion seems like you dishonor them some how o_o

Brother Grimm.5176:

pandas.9450:

Great reused skins in gw1 that were unlockable for free

You did have to semi-participate in the festival events in Shing Jea for some of them as I recall….not actually FREE (but yes, they did not cost any in-game or RL currency).

Also, if you wanted them for multiple characters, you had to do some serious token collecting (tho, you could AFK some of the games to do this). The GW2 method allows you to use it on all characters once obtained (for trans charges, yes).

And thats whats gw2 should do, the masks were all free all you had to do was some specific event quests for the tokens which allowed everyone to get it. As long you unlocked on any character you can take it to the clothing guy who saves the design for you and then any character you have can use it

Great reused skins in gw1 that were unlockable for free

rotten.9753:

pandas.9450:

video game titles are very important! >:(

and if people wanna stack let them, it is just a lil more seconds considering you are being a dirty lil pug of course unless you wanna explain before hand

I’m not sure you understood that.

Probably not

rotten.9753:

Lunar Sunset.8742:

You guys must have some intense social lives.

>50/50 GWAMM x3
>…

video game titles are very important! >:(

and if people wanna stack let them, it is just a lil more seconds considering you are being a dirty lil pug of course unless you wanna explain before hand

Darkness.9732:

guys…the ranger has never got any love. The class is totally broken. Just compare ranger survival skills with the warriors..or eles…or thieves…ranger is 100km behind such classes.
Moreover look at our F skills and compare them to other classes F skills…compare our pets with…warrior eviscerate for example….
There is no hope Anet won’ t fix ranger. And druid will suck hard in pvp couse ranger sucks hard. So don’ t be too happy. The disappointment train for rangers never stops…..

No offense but a sucking ranger is usually a sucky player. Rangers arent bad as you make them seem. And someone mentioned turning into our animals… I can truly achieve bowbear hidden powers ;3

If you don’t mind being a loner majority of time, the game is alright
The shrunken community is an awful shame cause the campaign was always fun playing with people.

Loki.8793:

If you want more challenge, you can always do content that is above your level. Unlike other MMOs, you’re not restricted from doing things above your level in this game.

Wha, you’ll most likely just end up dying like any other mmo if you decide to venture anywhere higher

GrimmR.3541:

Well, you don’t often get kickef from “LF2M cute chars with a crush on pandas, pretty please bring flowers. Tell me your favourite colour on join, no one gets kicked! xoxo“ LFG’s.
But you might get kicked for playing like a salad once you join a “Hardcur META EXP ZERKER only, Gearcheck or kick, 500000 AP, 14Legendaried, Hurr Durr“.
Both are exagerated examples but you get what I mean.
The issue I encountered often is that alot of pugs either don’t speak english very good or simply refuse to read.
Example: Exp only means in most cases experienced only, not explorable only. I often had to see players who might have thought of the 2nd version.

Also if you join a super hardcore LFG, people require that you do your job. If you refuse to, you’ll get kicked. Same goes for RL, if a cook doesn’t know how to cook. He won’t be a cook for long, will he?

What about pandas and most random pugs i have seen are just kicked who have no intention of listening or taking advice, no point in trying to deal with them since most I’ve tried to help were threatened some how from takimg advice on something they did not know

Maybe if they put some love into the game and not just focus on one single thing people would be more happy :P

Zaklex.6308:

Healix.5819:

~Snip~

It’s simply a mindset people have. An expansion is seen as something new, whereas a patch is just a patch. Patches also don’t typically cause major changes whereas this is expected in an expansion, creating a sense of unknown and creating a lot more buzz.

Here’s the problem, everyone that’s played ‘traditional’ MMO’s has been brainwashed into needing the expansion model and can think of nothing else. They’ve been brainwashed into believing that new professions(classes in other games), skills, weapons, etc., are absolutely necessary for an MMO. It’s impossible for these people to think otherwise. Think of any cult that has a set of rules that people are expected to follow, that’s your traditional MMO expansion model, and that’s the problem here, everyone expects the traditional model and grasp that another concept might work, once it gets solid footing.

It’s not that dramatic as you make it out to be, people know with an expansion they will be receiving more than just a small living story which it has been so far. Anet having no expectation to share any information for the future of the game just leaves speculation and speculation of hope for more than just these lil living stories.

Tere.4759:

I came back and brought 4 people with me. It’s a great game and so relaxing coming from TOR where it’s a constant battle to get nodes, complete bonus quests, etc. We play both and I find GW2 extremely refreshing. I left because my friends left. I brought them back. We’re looking forward to leveling together again and doing dungeons again.

In other words, it does not take an expansion to bring people back. It only takes a good friend to say “Hey, let’s give the game a chance again. I’m loving it, come play with me.”

How many times can you keep saying lets try it again, maybe doing “random thing for the thousand time” become suddenly fun. The game might not need an expansion pack but it does need to start working on other things instead of just relying a living story

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

I dont care what people say about pvp. I love pvp and Im happy with this announcement:D:D

Still seems sad though for pvp, pve and wvw to lesser extend have recieved new maps while pvp lost one and nothing new to expand on pvp like different modes with no possible positive hope for the near future for any true pvp updates

Xenon.4537:

pandas.9450:

Still waiting for axes for guards, my poor tooth of frostfang is still in storage and waiting to turn into frostfang for my guard, come on anet ;-;

I think what this thread needs is more detailed ideas for what weapon skills will do. What do you think guadian axe skills will do? Will they be distinctly different from warrior, ranger, and necromancer axe skills?

Hoping for an offhand axe that will focus on more personal dps,4-5 a stun hit and maybe not just to seem selfish a large arc swipe that can remove a condi on a single team member

Still waiting for axes for guards, my poor tooth of frostfang is still in storage and waiting to turn into frostfang for my guard, come on anet ;-;

The biggest con for me has been seeing how no effort to lil effort (blixx and silverwaste) farm were. I support farming and all but these were just basically handouts which me and plenty of people took advantage of. Wish they brought back the traditional mat farming by killing certain stuff but sadly bots killed that by overfarming certain spots back early in the game

You’re lucky, charr armor sets feel so limited with most armor just overly-stretched without much thought for the charr body

Gunsnroll.2657:

Rangers are great, but people who play ranger suck.
Most of the time you’ll get ranger without spotter or FS, and they will camp LB.
So yeah most of rangers will be kicked for that, the thing is, people don’t know ranger can be good, so they won’t bother checking if the ranger has a sword and the required utilities.

Sadly true, seems like rangers are the most i have 2nd to kick just because they fail to control their pets and not even bother to do something about it

Tachenon.5270:

Jaher Dal.9503:

If we are talking about the first game, I never got an Icy Dragon Sword, and I tried and tried, and tried again.

That was something I tried and tried to get from the ice imps but never did, and then wound up getting it from the guy with the yakk.

I farmed them plenty and sadly so did others that made them dead cheap >_>

Zaxares.5419:

That is a fair point. Personally I also think the rats should have been removed, but I guess ANet’s crunched the numbers and figured with only a two week window for Halloween, it wasn’t worth putting a dev’s time onto changing the instance.

Yup :/ seeingc chris response in the thread just showed they didnt care

Zaxares.5419:

The player who was banned (suspended, more accurately) in that situation was one who was consistently attempting to get back into that ONE specific instance to disrupt the farmers there. They could have just as easily stayed in their own instance if they wanted to farm for themselves, but their actions made it clear they were doing it specifically because they wanted to aggravate the farmers. As per the ToS, trolling or griefing other players is not allowed and appropriate action was taken.

Now, if you have a problem with farming or the Maize farm in general, you’re more than welcome to continue discussion about it here, but ANet’s already made their stance on the matter clear, and I for one, think that they’re correct. These farmers are essentially providing a year-round source for ToT bags, which means that prices for the various goodies from them will be kept at a reasonable level for the foreseeable future. This is a GOOD thing for the player base at large, as it means that stuff like the craftable Halloween weapons, Zuzu and related stuff will never spike to prices where the average player feels they’re unreachable.

And if you need gold, you’re more than able to buy your own Maize Balms and find some quiet spots with lots of ambients to generate your own ToT bags.

(For the record, I’m not a farmer and I have simply been selling any Maize Balms I find.)

The issue is more again about actually playing the game by doing the story and punishing a large majority of people who did it. If this was fine for anet they should bring back the blixx farm and the linen farm which surprisingly kept linen prices stable. Goodluck finding a quiet place with a either a large amount of ambient creatures not being killed by others or as quickly respawnable ambient creatures. And if this was as simple as you stated it, it should not have been an issue if anet decided to remove those rats

Vayne.8563:

Bellizare.5816:

If you enjoy Dry Top, then it is not boring for you.

If you think that Dry Top is boring, well surprise! It is.

What is the point of this post anyway?

One would assume the point of the post is to inform people who don’t realize it can be better..that it can be better. What’s the point of asking what’s the point about a post making perfectly good points?

Probably talking about how it doesn’t change the fact the area is no more than a farm a farming map no matter how you sugar coat it

The gw2 community is way to split to ever make a boycott and if one does ever happen i expect the boycott to have the same outcome as the cod boycott they had awhile back

kyubi.3620:

I have not personnaly ran dungeon in a while killing idiot in spvp is way more fun but i wish sometime we did the ac like in the old day with kholer and the non stacked spider.

Then you have been long long long gone from a dungeon, that is the meta for both things you mentioned. Maybe try doing dungeons again before bringing somerhing up

kyubi.3620:

Regardless of the OP many girouete like post i still think he got a point speedrunning is way to rewarding and encourage people to skip content in the sake of moneymaking. Money should come both way even when not speedrunning and skipping stuff shoulnt be more viable moneywise and effectivenesswise in a run then killing it, at best it should be equaly viable. It should not be a choice of ‘’will i make more money or token by skiping or not’’ but rather of ‘’will my life be easier if i skip or not’’ because the facts are dungeon mobs drop nothing usefull least of all token and are in many way simply put useless. What about making that any material lootbag found on regular mob gives 3 or 2 token of the actual dungeon so to encourage killing them?

I dont get it, you are still making the same amount of money than a speed runner would just slower because you want to kill extra random mobs that were just thrown in for the sake of just having something there. If they implemented something like you say then it seems you just want more tokens considering the amount of useless enemies in the different dungeons have. And with the original op idea of having a common token currency also quickly seems like wanting more tokens to get what ever you want without doing the work since you can just farm easier paths

Illuminerdi.9153:

hybrid.5027:

My new plan of action.

1. Go to PvP forum.
2. Explain how I want to radically alter the game so it conforms to exactly what I want it to be regardless of the wishes of anyone else.
3. Expect to be treated with dignity and respect.
4. Express exasperation when my ideas are met with scorn.

I think this plan will work out for me.

I’m pretty sure #3 applies to every scenario everywhere. When did it become ok to be a jerk just because you disagree with someone’s ideas? Politely saying “no, I don’t think that would work, (and maybe: here’s a rational explanation as to why)” would have been just fine.

Oh wait, I’m sorry, did my absurd need to be treated as a normal human being scare you? I thought this was a discussion forum, not a place for everyone to agree on everything all the time and nobody to ever suggest new or different ideas…my bad!

some of the negative response has been in my view you are trying to force a play style while putting down people who play the way they want. You have been changing your wordings constantly on “what” you meant. Universal tokens will just encourage more people to do the same easy dungeons while ignoring others knowing they could just do any dungeon for the same token. Your stance on cut scenes has been changing thru out the thread, bonus chest are placed after defeating a boss in the dungeon or something that requires coordination, don’t see why they should be removed. Dungeon tokens are all mostly earnef at the end which seems proper since you bothered to stay thru it all. Increasing token drops with every mob killed and interchangeable tokens just seems you want more easily available tokens. It is fine to make suggestions for discussions but when you are making a thread putting down a group and telling them how they play is wrong and awful expect awful treatment

Illuminerdi.9153:

hybrid.5027:

This thread is either a troll or a cry for help. I think the solution in either case is the same.

No, it really isn’t, and that’s the saddest part.

I made an honest question asking if I was alone in disliking the current method of dungeon play, with suggestions to change this, and so far the entire response has been “OMG U TROLL” or “kitten and let me play how I want!”

The real irony? I really do want to play through dungeons in a slow, relaxed fashion. That’s how I want to play.

So apparently nobody else wants to change their play style, but it’s totally fine that other poeple can’t do theirs without taking a severe reward penalty. Because that makes perfect sense.

The saddest part is you want to force others the way YOU want -_- questions would of been fine but there isn’t really an issue here when you already play the way you want if yku bother making a lfg

Xanabilek.4719:

I’d rather drop Teq’s spoon every single time and sell it for 10s than the Karka Queen’s Settler recipe which I basically have to destroy now ><

Haha this ^^^^^^^^^

hybrid.5027:

This thread is either a troll or a cry for help. I think the solution in either case is the same.

Both, I learned ac like 4 weeks ago, I could of learned it sooner if I just bothered making a lfg or even using the lfg that I think the op is ignoring or completely lying. It wasn’t hard to find a AC that accepted newbies. A common dungeon token? Sounds more like skipping a dungeon cause you don’t like it and rather do an easier dungeon for the tokens.

Illuminerdi.9153:

Taku.6352:

I play how I want.

And you think it’s OK/fair that some of us can’t play how we want?

No one is stopping you. I seen plenty of lfg that say any one welcome and blah blah. The we is just you ignoring the lfg feature that lets you make your own group

Wait you are telling me I have to constantly rewatch the freaking cut scene every time I do a dungeon -_-? How about stop whining and just make your own lfg. Speed runs aren’t hostile to anyone but the few players who decide to join them ignoring the lfg title completely. You can’t be expecting to be carried or what I been seeing more hostile new players getting so kitteny when you tell them how to do something or just ignored till they are kicked out.

I actually forgot about the dragons being the villians in the game with the pace the game is going

Oxidia.8103:

DON’T LABEL ME “my type” YOU KNO MY NAME NOT MY STORY!!!1

All i’m saying is people need to tone down a little bit of their elite little tushy. And yes your little elite tushy too DonQuack. And yes i just labeled you SHOTS FIRED!!1!

I don’t see any elitism just the usual case of a pug expecting to be carried and being silent about any experience until the very last moment or after a couple deaths. I don’t see your issue with dungeon sellers, you either join them or not even though I have only seen one dungeon seller out of arah. Hell they were a big part of guild wars 1

Sorean.5379:

What I don’t understand is why some people need to speak with another person in their language in MAP CHAT,seriously,do you want to show off how fluently you can speak your mother language or what?
Sorry but no one cares about your little conversation with your friend in portuguese,spanish,german…

If you are in a North American server,you should speak English in Map Chat,I think even /say chat is “okay” because if someone does not want to read another language in their chat they can just move to somewhere else,but in map chat…ugh…Why you guys do it. Basically it is the same as if someone was forced to watch 2 random guys speaking their language in front of you,it is rude.

Btw,my main language is (as you can see) not english,but I refuse to say a word in portuguese in /say ,/map or even party chat,because when I have like 2 friends in a party and then another random guy joins,I tell my friends to stop speaking in portuguese in map chat because it would just scare the random guy and he would leave the party

And what stops people speaking in english trying to show off their english talking about their nonsense day that the majority do not care about in map chat? It is double standards, anyone should be able to speak their tongue if they want unless you want to enforce punishments but that would also have to apply to english speakers filling the map chat

Really wished they made the NPE optional for players already clearly familiar with the game if they really want to keep this

Paradox.1380:

I don’t block people for anything, but I find it isolating and rather rude to talk in another Language on the English servers most especially in guilds and Parties. I’ve had this happen to me a few times and It made me feel isolated from others because I couldn’t understand the language they were speaking and had no idea what they were talking about.

One time in a party though, they were going between English and Spanish… not realizing I could read/speak a good deal of Spanish myself they went on talking about ME. It was rude and that was a sad day and I think that’s a big reason why I dislike people speaking in a different language around me on an English server. I don’t know what they are saying and I can’t know every language there is.

Also, I don’t go into other languages and speak only English since I feel it is rude.

Well if you joined their party they should be able to speak their language and if they were talking about you and you felt uncomfortable you could always join another party. I did cof like 2 days ago and joined a asian guilds cof run and another random person. The other person didn’t like the 3 asian guild members speaking their language but they made the party and gave the option for anyone to join “if” they wanted to.

Harder content sure more permanent features would be better, basically stopped gw1 just awhile back after playing so many years but even when gw1 was finished with the whole main story they would add more stuff. It kept people busy and probably the best thing for me was Fort aspenwood and Alliance battle and for others jade quarry that let people experience a different form of pvp. Gw2 is lacking content and that defiantly shows in pvp

Should never be an issue, most people will get more annoyed from other issues as people trolling in english or sexual stuff that usually pops up :P

Sure if i can convert my dungeon tokens into badges and mistforged weapons

Hello,

I really didn’t know where to post this but i am looking for anyone who can possibly know the user named Panda and able to get him online (had him added for a yearish and haven’t seen him on) so i can talk to him to possibly be able to get his username. 50g to anyone who knows the person and can convince him to go online <3

I have attached a crying charr panda for motivation

I planned for frostfang awhile back for my guard in combo with jormag’s breath to match all the blue and blue flames but yea…. ;_;