i remember that…. if that was a real reason im a pink quaggan….
See?
Even when they announce reasons for delays people simply claim that they are lying.It is also rather silly to completely ignore the fact that the reward system is vastly different now compared to that announcement.
so they can’t even plan their stuff with logic (btw that change didn’t even was connect with precursor drop…)? i think they delayed a lot scavenger precursor , because precursor was connected with a lot of stuff in game economy and they had to find a way to balance it without destroy economy….
But that is just the thing. The community have shown rather clearly that they will not accept any sort of delay, no matter if it is announced or not.
People keep bringing up the Precursor Hunt as an example, and yet they told us long before the deadline (before the end of the year) was over, and they gave us a reason for the delay. People simply refuse to acknowledge it. (The reason was that they are changing the reward system and thus the planned Precursor Hunt simply wouldn’t work in that new system.)
i remember that…. if that was a real reason im a pink quaggan….
This does really suck when you are trying to get in the mood for a fun night of pvp, I’ve reported this and brought it up numerous times. Just in the same position as you guys are, just waiting for a response.
it’s since the day after spvp patch we asking for bring back solo and team q… but it seems they prefer to see pvp players suffer in this useless season without dishonored and with no matchmaking logic
Because sometimes there simply aren’t people around your MMR playing a variety of classes.
Engis are very popular, especially new/low skilled players, so when they make up a significant percentage of the population, it’s hard to avoid stacking.
Can they fix it? Yes, but you’ll probably have much longer queue times. Which is worse is a matter of opinion.
i don’t believe in the mmr…. imo it’s all randomyoloswag…. and it’s not only a few ppl problem it’s a lot of thing that togheter ruin everything and they are: leaderbord , daily , solo vs premade , meta and matchmaking
i prefer wait 10 minutes for a match than playing a match with 15 turrets on point or thief that rotate bad with 0 teamplay , this is not fun….
why class stacking work soo bad?
today i was with 2 thief , then 3 engi in my team and another 3 in the opposite team…. can you fix this crap plz?
today mm is really really bad….
SAB or quaggan rito
the right question is: there is a MMR?
ridiculous communication policy
this
We don’t see new CDI since december , and we didn’t have any official communication about it , they don’t talk with us clearly about SAB and they don’t respected us because the SAB minis in the BLC was a really bad joke.
And i repeat for the 1000 times , this is not about money/gem/infinite coin , it’s about SAB is one of the best and fun content they had ever created since 2005 and it’s a big waste can’t play it during this boring long break of nothing (yes , a crap spvp test alpha season is nothing)
^ Why do people keep assuming that they are not releasing it just to annoy people? Maybe there are actual reasons for it? Such as bugs and such that needs to be fixed but being put on the very end of the queue due to being very low priority.
they told us they didn’t want to realease SAb in the middle of living story , because it wasn’t in lore (instead of wvwvw season….. kitten logic). now we are not in the middle of ls , we are in a long break , this is the perfect time to put SAb , even only world 1-2. We all know if they not realease it before HoT we will have to wait a lot , because after hoT the ls will start again and they don’t want to add SAb in the middle of ls….
BTW your role of arenanet paladin is really boring , you can even try to create excuses more fun… like: Colin dog eaten SAb projects….
Charging for a service and then not providing it is what separates the SAB situation from the general PVE, WvW, and PvP situations. All of those portions of the game arre available to be played. SAB is not. None of those other portions of the game had an access fee beyond the basic game purchase. Anet did sell access to SAB for a fee above and beyond the cost of the game.
Charging for a service/product and then not providing it is not an ethical business practice. Stating that the product might be provided at some point in the future, maybe, does not change that.
Knowledge of SAB being limited available content with no set release schedule at the introduction of that coin was widely available. Players should have thought first before impulsively buying the coin if they truly have issues about not being able to use it at the moment. Anet is not at fault for players not doing the due diligence to at least think before they open their wallets.
They’ve said that they have plans to bring SAB back. That post on the French forums stated it would be after the expansion which makes sense. My advice to everyone is that’s upset about this is to never buy anything that is only temporarily available.
They have plans to perhaps bring it back.
There is a difference between at that moment and a period of years later. Buying a product that is labeled as providing infinite access if one desires such is not impulsive.
Spin it how you like, the service was charged for but is not being provided.
It was for infinite lives, not access.
Lives are the ability to play/access the content. The word, “continue,” refers to the ability to continue to play.
Some people have no interest in discussing things like reasonable expectations. It is my experience that those people are just not worth engaging with, after a certain point. I mean, I’d personally wonder how long people should be expected to be patient, but if someone seems to think that two years is a reasonable amount of time, it’s just not worth asking.
If there were actual technical problems, which were explained to an extent, and a time-line for correcting them in order to return the paid for service to function were provided, and refunds were offered to those desiring such, I would not have an issue with a protracted wait when dealing with something as complex as an MMO.
But taking away a service after it has been paid for, not providing a timeline for its return, indicating that its only a possibility that it will ever come back (Anet has redefine “absolutely,” and, “will,” as meaning, “perhaps,” or, “might,”), and not offering a refund even after paying customers have been without access to the service for which they have paid for a period of years is unethical.
SAB was temporary content so the service/access to it being removed after a months time was to be expected. SAB was not advertised as permanent content accessible at any time. They are not required to provide a timeline for its return as no release schedule has ever been available and this was widely known when the coin was available in the gem store.
What if… i don’t care?
like they don’t care about using more trasparency with us….
So last couple of days, I’ve lost like 80-90% of my games.. Some close, most blow-outs.
Out of the 15-20 games I did today, I won 2-3.
Yesterday, I maybe won 1-2 out of the 10’ish games..What’s up with that?
Also, if I wanna soloQ, give me SoloQ’ers, not parties nor premades to fight against.
For the sake of PvP.
If this doesn’t improve soon, I’m out.
because this is a test season… so after 2+ year we are betatester… you are not happy?
reroll engi turret
inb4 a lot of turrets…..
I dislike answering such a pointless whiny post, but IMHO, turrets will be less of a problem (I have no prob with them whatsoever, but it seems like a lot of ppl do) in stronghold: There should be more mobile gameplay than static pointguarding and for the few static battles, I think the treb should help.
turret on supply spawn and crate on lord , gg
Treb hits supply point easy and turrets won ‘t be able to survive that. As for crate on the lord, the lord and his posse are elites and a legendary. They’re more than capable of taking out a few turrets.
you can destroy treb….
we will see….
Nerf turrets. A build that forces people to communicate and coordinate is OP. I want to be able to not communicate with my team and still win. Why should I have to spend that time before a match communicating with my team and devising a strategy. I should be able to 1v1 every build because teamwork and communication is hard. I should be able to just run headlong into a player and fight them, I should not have to pay attention and find the rocket turret first. I should not have to learn rotations.
Seriously people! Actually communicate before a match. This significantly increases your chance of winning. I personally find it funny that there is a build that is only OP due to lack of willingness to communicate before a match. The turret engi has massive flaws that can be easily exploited. There is a reason that turret engi is not seen in high level play much.
they can’t nerf turrets , they are too busy on HoT….
inb4 a lot of turrets…..
I dislike answering such a pointless whiny post, but IMHO, turrets will be less of a problem (I have no prob with them whatsoever, but it seems like a lot of ppl do) in stronghold: There should be more mobile gameplay than static pointguarding and for the few static battles, I think the treb should help.
turret on supply spawn and crate on lord , gg
Thats why dishonor should be enabled because its test. You would think you would want to put it in and “test” it at some point and see how it might need to be adjusted. This is why the whole testing thing is fraudulent because they rarely adjust things. You would think they would be change things on the fly fairly often. We are what like three weeks into this test season and they made one adjustment so far based on a bug with not losing points for losses in games you were favored to win. You would think they would be tweaking things like matchmaking parameters constantly. I would love for example to have a week where the matcher would stick strictly to one class of each type only per side to see if it helped match competitiveness and what it would do to queues. A week where being in a group counted for much more then it currently does for matching purposes.
There are lots of things they should be testing. Imo this whole test nonsense is mainly to give them time because they still don’t have the resources dedicated to spvp to do anything in a timely manner especially now with expac coming out.
after 2 + years we are all betatester… and this season it’s a crap , meta sucks , class stacking not working , solo+team ranked , daily profession win , no dishonored , bad leaderboard
this is boring and frustrating , but seems they don’t care…. the important things are gemstore , hot , op turrets , celestial and don’t listen the community
inb4 a lot of turrets…..
later this year
today i played 4 match… in 2 of these , i had 1 dc/ragequit/idk
i don’t care about leaderboard , but it’s not fun waste 15 minutes in a disaster match because dishonored is not ON atm….
i don’t care if this is a beta/alpha/kitten/test season.. activate that stupid dishonored plz….
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Engi Daily….enough said
edit : Turret Daily
cancer daily win
No. Companies do not allow refunds whenever and for whatever reasons customers want. SAB is coming back in the future as has been stated by Anet. Currently the team that designed SAB are wrapped up in finishing the expansion. When they’ve finished, this will free them to work on other projects such as SAB.
you see it’s a really bad practice to say “you will be able to use our product sometime in the abstract future and that’s why we’re not handing out refunds”. If they said “in a year” people would be like “oh, okay”, however when they say “it’s not a priority”, then I’m sorry, but how long till you release existing content back? 6 years? 8 years?
If they’re not willing to give a date then they should be willing to give a refund.
It was an item for content that had limited availability with no set release schedule. It was quite obvious back then. If you chose to ignore that then it’s not really Anet at blame here. They provided an item that gave infinite lives in SAB. Everyone that bought it made use of it during World 2’s release. Anet plans to release the next world in the future so it’ll be used again.
Ok , but still we need more trasparency about sab from anet. I don’t want to know the date of release , but at least the season… and the year….
Lol…. Are you actually serious? Sab will eventually come back.
the problem it’s when….
i don’t want to be rude , but IF now they are working too hard with the expansion why they didn’t release at least world 3 early , it’s too easy always looking for an exscuse for anet , if they have a bad release plan we can’t always blame the community for asking about SAB’s next world
we are waiting this since semptermber 2013…..
i talked via email with arenanet support and Gaile Gray about SAb answer me this:
It is true that we have not said anything about Super Adventure Box in a while, but honestly, there is nothing new to say about it yet. I posted a few months ago to reassure the community of players that SAB will be back in the future, but that we did not have a date for its return. The same remains true today. We will be bringing it back, but we have not set an exact date for its return.
btw ty Gaile for the answer.
Guess it’s time for refund requests on the Infinite Continue Coin? If it’s not coming till after HoT, that’ll be two years minimum that the thing has been useless.
idk… but , last year they didn’t add SAB because it wasn’t in lore with the living story , soo now it’s the perfect time to add it , we are in a long break… i don’t think they are gonna add SAB nearly after the launch of HoT… i don’t wanna wait next year for SAB….
i talked via email with arenanet support and Gaile Gray about SAb answer me this:
It is true that we have not said anything about Super Adventure Box in a while, but honestly, there is nothing new to say about it yet. I posted a few months ago to reassure the community of players that SAB will be back in the future, but that we did not have a date for its return. The same remains true today. We will be bringing it back, but we have not set an exact date for its return.
btw ty Gaile for the answer.
Pelle Ossa. Im afraid I wont quote your post simply because of the spam making it so that it isn’t worth the space it would take.
You say that playing turret engineers discourages learning proper rotations. When in all actuality turret engineers REQUIRE that of their opponents. And also gives the turret engineer in question a front line seats to the results of poor rotations.
i don’t know how many matches you play , but in ranked atm 90% of engis don’t rotate , they simply stay on 1 point with their stupid turret (and some of this engis are in top 10 in leaderboard atm….)
and when both teams have 1 turret engi the match become 4 vs 4 mid or ppl getting farmed by turret on side….
soo much fun…..
but , it’s not only a turrets problem , there are a lot of things wrong , and thoese things put togheter ruin a lot of matches: class stacking , leaderboard (there are a lot of ppl in the high position who don’t know anything about rotation , they are high only because they farmed ranked all days) ,daily profession win …..
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ppl are becoming soo bad with this kittening turrets… they don’t learn to rotate well and strategic teamplay , only swag on a point with turret and nothing more…..
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+ today is full of nobrain thief… ty anet for this good ESPORTZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
GG Anet, eSport is real.
Previous season, for info : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Turret-hero-wins-the-leaderboard/first#post4785535
and there are 4-5 tuerret in the top 10…. arenaturret
we want SAB
SAB or RITO
I’ll just leave this here.
lol
Imagine this:
They are not releasing more SAB because some hidden group at Arenanet is working on a stand-alone game called “Super Adventure Box”. Imagine if they use this “game” to test their engine on consoles too, it won’t need to be like GW2 an mmorpg, it could well be a normal video game (with multiplayer support obviously)
later this year…..
kitten logic….
and still no official comunication….
arenanet communication skill -100
arenanet choo choo skill 100
example:
gw2 alpha: potions —-> lot of rage—-> they removed potion
The problem right now is that if they do release it now, it will just look like they buckled under all the rage. Which basically makes it look like if someone rages enough, ArenaNet will add it in.
Which might very well open the floodgates with people raging about Mounts, Duels, Raids, Trinity, VIP and so on.
SAB is something they relaeased in the past for us , now they have just ready world 1-2 ; and i think ppl (veterans and new players) would be happy even if they add now SAB without a new world…
This is becoming more and more frequent…
it’s the new meta
So, just had a match with 3 perma invis players. It seems this hack is becoming the new meta.
invisible meta>celestial meta
SAB is love , SAB is life
Welp, April First is over ingame….and….no SAB
-sulks-
this is very sad…. and yet no official comunication about SAB…..
RIOT
imho the problem it’s not about money , it’s about they have to learn to respect more the community and talk better with they (us).
screw code of conduct , they don’t add SAB even if they know we want SAB since 1,5 years ago and they don’t even have courage to come here and tell us they don’t release SAB now but later this year , swing the sword , when it’s ready and other crap …
they didn’t learn anything about what happened last semptember…
then why we have to respect this?
SAB or RIOTBecause you signed their code of conduct when you agreed to play this game. That is why. You also make us look bad, “OH WE DIDNT GET SAB, SO I CAN BREAK THE RULES I SIGNED” yea, well done.
YES
Alright, but don’t go around complaining later if you get suspended from the forums.
And indeed, they know people want SAB back. So why do people feel the need to spam the forums about it? Do people really think that they will decide to release it right now, just because people rage about it?
ok , so continue to do nothing and continue to receive nothing…
stuffs
Read the Code of Conduct for the forums.
Most specifically this part:
Do not post petitions, “I demand an answer” threads, conspiracy threads, or comments about circumventing the rules.
screw code of conduct , they don’t add SAB even if they know we want SAB since 1,5 years ago and they don’t even have courage to come here and tell us they don’t release SAB now but later this year , swing the sword , when it’s ready and other crap …
they didn’t learn anything about what happened last semptember…
then why we have to respect this?
SAB or RIOT
SAB or Rata Sum will be destroyed at dawn
FREE SAB PLZ
one of devs said no sab this april fools, it was ingame chat information in rata sum
I don’t give a frack , we want SAB back since the last september and anet know it , so SAB back or Rata Sum will be destroyed
Quaggans want SaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAbbbBBBBbbbbBBBbbbBBBBB
i want SAB not this stupid airplane mode