Guild Wars 2

Julie Yann.5379:

I’m guessing you are talking PvP. Hammer might not be great for PvP but it totally rocks in WvW where it is the warrior’s zerg busting tool of choice.

And easily countered by stability and blind/chill spam that every zerg runs. We need more variety in wvw zerg warfare.

What happened to uberkingkong? lol

Zikory.6871:

pot.6805:

Heijincks.9267:

Kronyx.2570:

Only an idiot would rush a gate with rams or golems which has multiple arrow carts being manned.

QFT. Yesterday I was in an SoR rush to take Hills. 30+ golems. 5 arrow carts took almost all of them all down.

No one even bothered with the arrow carts. They just thought the golems were enough in number that they could bust down both gates before they all died. The element of surprise was also lost minutes before the attack. For the entire fight I was just facepalming my desk.

The dude just called you an idiot and you agreed with him?

So basically SoR just zerged up like usual, instead of people though, they zerg balled 30 golems and failed? You tried to zergball golems and got wrecked. You were scouted 5 minutes before the attack and you think you should have just walked over and taken hills with no resistance? You guys knew we had that place sieged up and you still tried to zergball Golems? That isn’t a fault of the AC change but a fault in your zergball tactics. You still wrecked the outer door in under 15 seconds.

@Heijincks.9267 I was part of the group that BL hopped to help out hills. From what I heard, the only reason you didn’t take hills was because a string of bad portals dropped your golems in bad areas and they ended up having to run up half the stairs, getting rained on by AC’s.

I misunderstood his post! He was actually poking fun at the stupidity of that golem rush. Not complaining that it failed.

Heijincks.9267:

Kronyx.2570:

Only an idiot would rush a gate with rams or golems which has multiple arrow carts being manned.

QFT. Yesterday I was in an SoR rush to take Hills. 30+ golems. 5 arrow carts took almost all of them all down.

No one even bothered with the arrow carts. They just thought the golems were enough in number that they could bust down both gates before they all died. The element of surprise was also lost minutes before the attack. For the entire fight I was just facepalming my desk.

So basically SoR just zerged up like usual but with golems instead of people. Scouted 5 minutes before the attack and they thought they should have just walked over and taken hills with no resistance. They knew we had that place sieged up because they were trying to take it for many hours and still tried to zerg Golems. Regardless of the AC change, that sounds like a fault in their tactics. They still wrecked the outer door in under 15 seconds.

They are supposed to golem rush when its undefended. Not when you know there is 40 enemies in there with a ton of siege.

edit: Was informed I misread your post and you weren’t complaining about the failed golem rush but actually laughing at the stupidity of that golem rush. My bad, I have edited my post.

Score update for those at work please.

Chaosky.5276:

“Sustain” is not an adjective, guys, you’re thinking of sustainability.

So stop saying that.

Come on guy, we know that. Its shorthand basically. Stop trying to correct grammar as if that really matters to the discussion.

Score update since it has been awhile.

Nothing better in this game than destroying full map zergs through brainpower and sheer skill.

MagiKarp.8201:

pot.6805:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Provac,

Just an fyi, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore (plus some European and Asian countries) have mandatory military enlistment for about 1-2.5 years for males in the late teens. We serve in the regular army and head back yearly for refresher training till late 30s and 40s. So this is not a rumor, all male adult Koreans are ex-military.

FW

Provac.3598:

1) Most of WM Korean’s Members are enlisted in the army.

12k gold is propaganda and rumor put out by bitter players that WM didn’t move to their server.

Kitten bro if we had 12k gold as a server we’d be buying everyone!!!

Man even 5k gold! I’de buy every guild.

What happened to the 3 billion gold we paid MERC?

/s

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Provac,

Just an fyi, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore (plus some European and Asian countries) have mandatory military enlistment for about 1-2.5 years for males in the late teens. We serve in the regular army and head back yearly for refresher training till late 30s and 40s. So this is not a rumor, all male adult Koreans are ex-military.

FW

Provac.3598:

1) Most of WM Korean’s Members are enlisted in the army.

12k gold is propaganda and rumor put out by bitter players that WM didn’t move to their server.

You rezzed through the gate, ported ppl in and still got wiped.

Provac.3598:

As much as I respect WM from their SBI days, there are a few rumours going around which we can “add to the fire” of this thread:

1) Most of WM Korean’s Members are enlisted in the army.
2) Something about 12k Gold.

As some people have said, really there isn’t much point to these threads, other than announcing it so your fans will follow you.

So you believe rumors you hear on the forums, good to know.

Ross Biddle.2367:

I’ve only played mes since release. Can someone define “sustain” for me as it’s being used with regards to warriors?

In regards to warriors, it usually is referring to warriors lack of sustained healing.

buki.3108:

This is quite hilarious. Warrior is super fun to play now. 3.8k armor, 3.1k attack, 70% crit chance, 26k HP, invulnerable to CC… gg. Warrior is God Mode now XD.

Then you realize you have no sustain and none of that matters. Do people still think armor and HP matter in this game? If it did Guardians and Eles wouldn’t be the top dogs.

RyuDragnier.9476:

I have to ask, why is this bugging you? Warriors are already ridiculously easy to kill in wvw, even with that setup on them. Give them just a little bit of tankiness before you crush them in battle.

So much this. Warriors have no sustain.

Zikory.6871:

Score update from anyone for those at work

Score update for those at work.

Ranger pets should be able to pve farm gold for you.

Hotjoin is the same way. It isn’t surprising that customs are too.

Kamikazi.5380:

It’s actually pretty great in WvW, where everyone and their mother has tons of boons, but not everyone has bleeds on them so you are not guaranteed a 10% damage boost. It’s pretty great seeing 6 boons on someone, and that’s a guaranteed +18% damage boost that isn’t effected by condition removal, which is also rampart in WvW.

Not really. Proper zerg warfare involves massive boon stripping/conversion which removes boons. Also you are going to be extra squishy with 30 in discipline.

skinnyb.5920:

I ended up becoming a FOTM warrior last week.

I started crafting one to 80 because it spoke to my ele side. With hammer and sword/warhorn, I have mobility, condition removals, and shout healing that rivals my s/d ele.

I can run in balls deep with my hammer, smash a few things, and then pop my shouts and escape with sword #2, just like I would with my cantrips and Ride the Lightning.

Can’t wait till you get into actual wvw heheheh

Tarkus.4109:

RavyGravy.6830:

Im keen to see how the new patch will effect the meta, good luck tonight everyone

Basically it’ll be an arrow-cart driven meta I think, more open field siege and objectives will be far more stable if there are players to defend it using seige. The boon hate trait for the warrior looks to have promise, and I’ll be trying to theorycraft some builds around it, however I think its just a bit gimicky. Glamor bombs will still be viable due to the AoE blind, but the nerf to confusion damage will definitely pull things back a bit.

Will be good to see

You have to invest too much to get boon hate for warriors, it requires 30 into discpline. Zergs should be boon stripping anyway, totally negating the benefits of boon hate. Boon hate was intended for the meta in Spvp, not for WvW. And even there is it lackluster since you have to give up something much better like leg specialist or points into Arms. If you want more damage in a wvw setting, boon hate isn’t the way to go!

So yeah gimmicky.

Doomdesire.9365:

pot.6805:

Doomdesire.9365:

pot.6805:

Doomdesire.9365:

In related news….

The “JQ BEAST” has awakened in order to prevent BG from taking first place. Coupled with the burnout by BG due to pushing hard over the weekend into monday, this resulted in nothing less of expected results and JQ establishing a large lead by tuesday evening.

In other news, anyone want to 1v1?

Since when is 10k a large lead in t1? I seem to recall JQ being ahead by 40k at the same time last week. I know SoR has never been in the position to even be a threat to JQ so you may not understand.

I like how you still try to insult me. Stay classy bro. Forum warrior at work here.

In other news, was great fights in JQBL! You KnT guise and Icoa guys/gals are a fun bunch to fight.

Claiming SoR has never been a threat to JQ is not a personal insult againstt you. You may want to take a step back and stop taking things said against SoR so personally.

Haha. Pot never gives up man. The little dude who could. Keep on truckin like a pro forum warrior man.

You do realize you post on these forums more then I do correct? Keep on truckin like a pro forum warrior man. Regardless, have a good night sir!

Doomdesire.9365:

pot.6805:

Doomdesire.9365:

In related news….

The “JQ BEAST” has awakened in order to prevent BG from taking first place. Coupled with the burnout by BG due to pushing hard over the weekend into monday, this resulted in nothing less of expected results and JQ establishing a large lead by tuesday evening.

In other news, anyone want to 1v1?

Since when is 10k a large lead in t1? I seem to recall JQ being ahead by 40k at the same time last week. I know SoR has never been in the position to even be a threat to JQ so you may not understand.

I like how you still try to insult me. Stay classy bro. Forum warrior at work here.

In other news, was great fights in JQBL! You KnT guise and Icoa guys/gals are a fun bunch to fight.

Claiming SoR has never been a threat to JQ is not a personal insult againstt you. You may want to take a step back and stop taking things said against SoR so personally.

Yeah I’m taking a break from wvw until this crap is fixed. We’ve now had all day to see this change and it is absolutely terrible in game.

I dunno, even with all the problems, I am still loving the spectator mode. So nice to see if other people play your class the same way and learn new stuff.

style.6173:

Bacon Please.8407:

Low and Behold. The Devs have finally released a significant patch giving warriors some new traits, abilities, and an entire new system to the class Called boon hate. Now I’m not saying everything they are going to add in is going to be perfect or maybe it will fit right in but i would like to say with this update we are finally seeing some major changes to classes which makes me happy because even if the content if these new features are crap, they are trying and paying attention to warrior. I just can’t wait for the new features to come Live so we can experiment and try new possible builds. I expect over the next few weeks that warriors might be a topic of major discussion in the community. I just hope I can tPVP again on my warrior soon

So thank you to the Devs for giving warrior some of your attention.

Yeah, warriors needed some help in PvP. They are going to be OP in PvE and WvW (in zergs not when roaming) though.

Can you please explain how they will be OP in zergs?

Yeah it is stupid how strong rangers pets are. They were already strong before the patch, now their power level is over 9000.

jcbroe.4329:

pot.6805:

Pets may have needed a buff in PvE or something but not in Spvp!

When you can figure out to to split the way mechanics function between game modes (AI functioning different in PvP than PvE), I’m sure ANet will hire you to do it.

Um it is not hard to split the amount of tough/vit ranger pets get in PvE vs spvp. They already have splits on other skills.

Pets may have needed a buff in PvE or something but not in Spvp!

Yeah 900 is a piddly amount. It should be 4k!

Doomdesire.9365:

In related news….

The “JQ BEAST” has awakened in order to prevent BG from taking first place. Coupled with the burnout by BG due to pushing hard over the weekend into monday, this resulted in nothing less of expected results and JQ establishing a large lead by tuesday evening.

In other news, anyone want to 1v1?

Since when is 10k a large lead in t1? I seem to recall JQ being ahead by 40k at the same time last week. I know SoR has never been in the position to even be a threat to JQ so you may not understand.

Warrior does not have invulnerability.

Welcome to Blackgate. Ignore the trolls.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Caliban.3176:

On my Guardian I got hit by over 2.1k and I’m semi-Tanky. I don’t have a screenshot but a guildie with similar build does, if you want it: http://i.imgur.com/w0LVRTA.jpg

Halfway proves it, should’ve taken a pic with his stats page open. Because at this point he could in fact be a glass cannon and prove my point. If that really is the case though, the damage is fine (there is nothing else to prevent melee sieging, it sounds like they may need to fix the range though (I’m not in game, but hearing they increased it a ton).

And was that even a superior?

Heijincks.9267:

Ruprect.7260:

Maybe in T8, in T2 it was very difficult to take a T3 tower/keep before this nonsense.

“Difficult” is subjective. A better answer is to say how many times a T3 tower/keep gets flipped per day. I’m on SoR, and from what I see, T3s get flipped several times a day.

Yeah I play on BG in T1. And T3 stuff gets flipped usually because there is no defenders at that location.

Wow, who came up with the arrow cart changes? Just when I started to get back into enjoying this game again.

sielfiel.4692:

score update!!

kill it with fire!

Score update? Thanks!

Can you post the patch notes today? I miss playing other MMOs where the patch notes were posted the day before.

Wenissa.2967:

Harbinger.8637:

graverr.6473:

I tought Dogged March(or whatever the new trait name) it was supposed to reduce the power of cripple/chilled by 30% ,not their duration.

-New trait: Dogged March. Replaces Turtle’s Defense. Reduces cripple, immobilize, and chill durations by 33%, and gives a small amount of regeneration when hit by these conditions.

Its the regen part that worries me more. I mean if you put a mud trap down or a spike trap down on a ranger, that pulses every 1 or 2 seconds thats a lot of free regen with no benefit from the trap.

They said there will be an internal cooldown on it.

Krakah.3582:

pot.6805:

Boon Hate is too far into the discipline tree (requires 30 points making you squishy as kitten) to matter to zerg warfare. It is for spvp burst builds, not wvw zerg warriors.

There will always be a population running GC warriors. We’ll see if the trade off is worth it.

That warrior will die instantly in zerg v zerg and never get to use boon hate.[/quote]

So…free bags is bad? if boon hate doesn’t work out?[/quote]

Free bags always good =)

Krakah.3582:

pot.6805:

Krakah.3582:

Mobile strikes already gets past immobilize, so the new trait is for cripple and chill. Though a warhorn also removes those conditions, and this is not even getting into a shouts.

It’s less game changing than people are making it out to be, ZvZ this will hardly be noticed.

Boon hate will be the change to watch out for. It’ll either be to good or not good enough.

Boon Hate is too far into the discipline tree (requires 30 points making you squishy as kitten) to matter to zerg warfare. It is for spvp burst builds, not wvw zerg warriors.

There will always be a population running GC warriors. We’ll see if the trade off is worth it.

That warrior will die instantly in zerg v zerg and never get to use boon hate.

Krakah.3582:

Mobile strikes already gets past immobilize, so the new trait is for cripple and chill. Though a warhorn also removes those conditions, and this is not even getting into a shouts.

It’s less game changing than people are making it out to be, ZvZ this will hardly be noticed.

Boon hate will be the change to watch out for. It’ll either be to good or not good enough.

Boon Hate is too far into the discipline tree (requires 30 points making you squishy as kitten) to matter to zerg warfare. It is for spvp burst builds, not wvw zerg warriors.

Teel.9036:

pot.6805:

Seems EU T1 finally got a taste of what NA T1 has been dealing with for many months. The whole murder zerg meta is just plain boring.

In NA at least T1 is more balanced. In EU nothing will ever long-term be able to beat Vizunah because in order to do so an opposing server need to stack a lot, and organized guilds will not want to do that because then they have to stand heavy queues which they maybe at the moment don’t have on their current server.

SFR did indeed beat Vizunah a few times but that was because guilds pulled crazy hours every now and then and over time several guilds left the server to go to a lower tier due to several issues, one being queues.

I do not know what kind of joy the people on Vizunah get out of doing WvW but I sincerely hope that for the sake of WvW in the EU brackets they split up more evenly on other French servers so there isn’t a super-stacked server like theirs. Everyone is supposed to want to go to T1 but in EU it’s not like that, people do not want to have their server even enter T1 because they fear the destruction of their server due to the blobbing that exists on Vizunah and the night/daycapping.

That’s true. I was mainly referring to the huge blobs who run around wiping 20 mans.

Seems EU T1 finally got a taste of what NA T1 has been dealing with for many months. The whole murder zerg meta is just plain boring.

Lorthos.4976:

Magical Sky Daddy.7540:

Sleepyy.1598:

Lol MERC has been absolutely terrible ever since Jedahs left. HIRE rocked them like 20 times over and over… and over and over again. And no, there wasn’t 80 people there.

You must be talking about the HIRE zerg that lost all of SoR BL to MERC. GG

http://youtu.be/faNIStpEDHs

90% of HIRE and Rallians logged and then you flipped our borderland like you are good lmao. Keep that ppt up though you might get a cookie at the end of the week.

Not impressed, the video clearly shows you outnumbered your enemy by massive amounts.

Oh god, it is back.

muekung.2518:

I dont know about you guys, but i hate yak escorting duty

Poor yaks, just trying to make an honest living.

Zen.8497:

JCH.4198:

Zen.8497:

MagiKarp.8201:

Hello from MERC & ND inside SoR’s garrison, its nice and cosy!

And this is what the map looks like…

Gee, PvDooring such a test of great skill, it seems that you even surprised yourself.
At times like these, don’t be afraid to do some Arah chain events, those NPC’s might actually fight back.

You know SoR is losing when all the PvDoor talk starts lol, it’s tier 1… Go cry to someone else.

It is a fact when a server ticks at 50 ppt it is because there are no players so there is no accomplishment there… Also shows the type of character of some players chest thumping in those circumstances where there is nothing to be proud of.

BG ticked at 50 ppt one day and there was 10 posts from SoR saying “RIP Blackgate” and massive chest thumping. What goes around, comes around.

Zen.8497:

MagiKarp.8201:

Hello from MERC & ND inside SoR’s garrison, its nice and cosy!

And this is what the map looks like…

Gee, PvDooring such a test of great skill, it seems that you even surprised yourself.
At times like these, don’t be afraid to do some Arah chain events, those NPC’s might actually fight back.

There was a 80man SoR zerg on SoR BL. Where did they all go?