Guild Wars 2

Bloody kittens. Did anyone finish listening to the youtube link? I’ll remind you that I was looking for a response to that. Does everyone have ADHD? The statistical odds do not account for the silence. Public is public. But I told you in plain language who the audience was…

Sea of Sorrows. Past & Present.

@Mishi, your guild is fantastic on the field. The SoR server as well. What I wrote is my view of the prevailing attitude. I do not subscribe to it. Apparently, I am paying a high price for my blasphemy. If you could see my forum posts on the SoS community forum it would be apparent to you what I think is important.

I don’t want to be overly vague…what I mean to say is…I agree with you.
Fun fact: I think I was removed from my guild today because of this view…? Talk about “putting your money where your mouth is.” To use a culturally specific metaphor…

Ignore him. 10 chars

“crisis,” “opportunity,” “cycle,” remind you of anything? Engineered? Tribal gamer behavior experiment? Self-perpetuating Socio-political systems in video game software markets experiment? I think that last one makes a good Thesis topic. Enjoy.

Gaming clans/guilds are tribal. Very primitive. Easy to influence and control. The developer corporate model always had, and continues to wield, the power…

Let me know when we (gamers) are ready to explore behind our chains again.

I wasn’t suggesting anyone (including me) should spend their time solely on WvW. The structure of the game is most certainly larger than WvW.

I hope the same language/time zone concern goes away as soon as possible in online gaming (including GW2).

Server affiliation is irrelevant. Guild/Clan is the building block. Welcome to community gaming 2013. Some of you old timers need to wake the kitten up (I’m 31). No amount of kittening is going to stop the swaps. You are a “slow adopter of change” if you prefer stagnate server [communities] “shards,” over the opportunity for dynamic international communities. I suggest that you don’t want to be in the “late adopters” percentile of the gaming bell curve. Server “shard” design and personal connection to them is “old hat.” I’ve had it both ways, but recognize the potential of the “messy” advantages we share in the design of GW2.

I’ve been on the receiving end of [hurt by] server community collapse several times. My community just imploded. But the freedom to choose…to remake/rebuild a community is more important. A decade ago a gamer’s only option available was to remake/reroll the avatar on a new server and start completely over. kitten that nonsense. Been there, done that.

Anyone remember which MMO was the first to offer free server transfers? (Forced server transfers DO NOT COUNT). Shadowbane? World of Warcraft? DAoC? Because I don’t remember.

I suggest part of the solution is re-teaching the old timers. And making it a community responsibility to ensure transfers go smoother…with less emotional attachment to “server pride” for the benefit of all. More adaptation, less traditional gaming.

Those who refuse to adapt will be left behind….with Grandpa…talking about the “old days,” at the “Arcade.”

It means JQ and SoS were historically the most dominate servers in the NA bracket thanks to the hard work of their respective populations. They stayed on top longer than any previous NA bracket communities. And now JQ is the only remaining super server. No one likes a Unipolar world. Will the past server trends continue? We’ll see.

Also, server affiliation is irrelevant in GW2. The game (thankfully) generates a noticeable lack of nationalism from my point of view. The community formations are…international & multicultural. Yet, we still have slow adopters of change, “die-hards” that entrench behind traditional gaming paradigms of server pride. These types are more likely to rally to shared culture/language/nation. We see that the “traditional” gaming community is no longer competitive in a 24/7 WvW (RvR) setting. The lure of competition, or perhaps gold is stronger? Guild/clan affiliation remains as the most lucrative community structural support.

I welcome the international gaming community experience. 10/10. Would do again.

Most of the tier 1 guilds that competed from launch are still competing for/against each other?

Forsooth =D

Listen to the music! Come on…I wanted comments on the music selection and how it ties in to this event.

{Disclaimer}
This should be on the community forums…but for certain reasons it is no longer possible to address some of you. So, I am left with using the GW2 forums conspicuously to get my message across. Keep in mind the audience of this message is the SoS community…that is who I am speaking too.

Those of you who played Tier 1 everyday know what this means for SoS. Regardless, the purpose of this thread is community sharing. I am sad to see you leave. As we approach farewell for the last time I wish to personally thank you for your time on SoS and wish you good luck. We had some amazing moments together on the battlefield. I think you will agree?

Please send our warm regards to JQ when you reach them again. They will be under your knife again soon. We will be watching.

Now, I will share a progressive House mix with you. (This mix includes part of Charlie Chaplin’s famous Dictator speech). It is titled “Approaching Farewell.” Nothing could be more apt. Once, upon a time I shared youtube links in teamchat…

“I’m sorry, we all want to help one another…human beings are like that.”

http://youtu.be/8hbKGAVwSA4

This is for those leaving & for those SoS who remain behind. Please listen. Don’t forget us.

The future is YOURS to make.

Communication is so much phun! It would be great if player coverage was more even. Yes, we agree. At Sea of Sorrows, we shed a tear when we remember the glory days holding the top spot in NA tier one. I am very happy to have had the opportunity to play with fine communities like JQ, SoR, SBI, BG, and TC [Including the transfers from ET & HoD]. But, wait, my happiness doesn’t stop there. I am also happy to have played with CD, YB, FA, DH, IoJ…Yes, everyone.

At the same time I worry about the competence of some posters, their mental health/disorders, the general level of education of forum posters [I’m interested in being an educator], and their social skills (or lack of). Please improve.

STOP THE ANGER. If you are trying to gain status here…or respect just log off please. You are better served with people you can visit in person. Work with the people around you, respect the red names in front of you, and attempt to be a better human being.

The developers may or may not move the game in the direction we want. There will be other games. Try to remember the people you spend time with…and ask yourself if it is time well spent…

Which guild force are you most likely to be killed by? In other words, who rolls over you most consistently?

Red Guard (during their brief visit in Tier 1)
Choo

What guild has a even chance at killing your guild force? That is a much longer list…some of those would be:
FEAR, HB, WM, SF, CRNG (Carnage)

Week 1: I see OnS – Onslaught. I didn’t see me, but I remember your guild tags. Don’t forget half your enjoyment is brought to you by your opponents. From what I see here…are delay tactics to keep you busy. We are running circles around the buildings with various others fighting or running. No siege or open field guild vs guild here.

Has FEAR or CRNG (Carnage) made any videos? I would like to see them.

Titan.3472:

Well I expected DB/Kaineng/YB but well… CD lost from not a large margin. This matchup is special for me as I started the game in YB and leveled and wvw in CD. Just transfered in Kaineng last week. I will be only on Kaineng BL to defend it then.
What is sure, is my dear friends from CD, whatever is the score I invite all the wvw guilds from both YB and CD to join Kaineng NEO alliance before the free transfer closure. Lets gather our strenght on Kaineng to go top tier T1. Already we went from high pop server to very high in less than 24 hours. Warmachine, some SoS guilds, some old Titan Alliance players and guilds, lots of skilled players and commanders… yes Kaineng is THE PLACE TO BE. We need your talent and coverage to make Kaineng the new T1 server for very long. At the moment I know it can reach T2 with no problem. But all want to be in T1 to proove all that this server is the Official wvw player base dedicated that could gather bests talents and guilds.
By the end of week please consider coming to us to go further and together in tiers.
Neo Alliance is in exponential growth. I wish to see you in our server soon.
Good luck and good fight to everyone. Lets make this week be great.
YB’s and CD’s I love you all. And to the guilds from CD that moved to any random server I am just telling that Titan War [LORD] is in Kaineng. Prince Jarvan my friend is also with his huge guild [RISE]. My wish would be that all guilds from our past alliance fall back all together to reinforce NEO and go to the TOP in no time.

Much love and respect.

Titan War.

Hello to everyone from CD, YB, and Kain out there.

Hi Titan War. So you went to Kain? I WvW’d with you on CD months ago. I’ve been on SoS server, but stopped playing recently. I believe Kain can reach tier 1 if they have complete coverage. Personally, I have fought WarMachine before they transferred. Keep in mind that all three top servers (SoS, JQ, BG) have guilds that can match and counter WarMachine. The game is not the same in Tier 1. Practice, train together and you will be OK. Good luck.

So true. HCBQ keeping the west tower of SoS BL was entertaining.

Sifu.6527:

T1 is like an abusive GF that JQ and SBI want to hold on to because she is hot. They both know it will not work out in the end and that they should let it go.

No matter how many times she beats the living kitten out of JQ/SBI, they keep crawling back trying to hold on to her. It’s time to let go – it’s not good fit.

It’s time to move on and find a better GF. Maybe T2 or T3?

Apologies to JQ and SBI….I still heart you, but this was awesome Sifu!

Tammuz.7361:

problematic.9623:

Mmmm. War Machine went to Kaenig? Any support you can add to confirm that?

buncha talk about it here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/GOM-Kain-HOD-1-4/first

and here http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/78151-from-war-machine/

Hey, thank you Tammuz.

Still. That’s funny Amity. We took the keeps in Eternal as well =D
Thanks for the golem ride team. All things considered, strong, effective leadership on EB tonight. Thank you.

Mmmm. War Machine went to Kaenig? Any support you can add to confirm that?

I would like to add that I also remember Covergirl from Rift. I was very active in early Rift pvp. Who can forget? You emoted about applying lip gloss after killing me. Covergirl from Rift was on Molinar server. I found a screenshot of a Port Scion match with you in 2nd behind me. However, I did lose plenty of matches to your side. This is Unsweetened <Requiem> – Guardian side. Small world.

CD has that, but only for the jumping puzzle!

Thank you Titan & friends in the TC BL map for the epic quality time with our rival servers. May the badges be with you.

Sidenote: Somehow I charged into a hill and fell through the land/terrain models. Apparently underneath the terrain its all water…like the entire map is just water in volume and a bit of textured terrain on top. Apologies to the Yakkers and TC for the hours of harassment while I hit you with water based weapons from underground. I don’t think I was able to kill anyone? I was able to kill some npc’s and hit the keep gates. Someone messaged me about being reported? I enjoy the WvW matchup and don’t want to cause trouble. Lucky for you my team ported out and it was just Yak vs TC. I suppose I could have abused that a lot more via invulnerable scouting for a few hours. You guys were able to damage me with some skills! Isn’t that strange? I thought it was fascinating.

This is true. Many turn off the icon lol.

You are welcome Garreth =)
I had fun giving TC hell today in Eternal from Anz tower. =D

I am happy you enjoyed yourself despite our failures to capture your objectives. I am one of the many reds who died fighting at WC…

Thank you for the detailed write-up of the evening events in Eternal. Sort of makes it all more legit when someone takes the time to review and report.

WvW itself? We are? Agree with Jonathan on both points 1) rendering 2) making objectives more costly to take. It has indeed become too easy.

Perhaps a new objectives like say an npc controlled fort? Or a walled gate across a road/crossroads? Why don’t we see a circumventing trench/ditch that cannot be jumped across around towers/keeps/castle? Add a Siege Tower for Keep/Castle combat? This would be moved into place against the wall or built against the wall and allows player avatars to climb covered stairs to attack points on an enemy wall. Give players the option to choose between a few different pre-defined wall configurations [layouts] for the reinforced/fortified upgrade? Give players the option to change the location of gates on paying for reinforced door upgrade? Add an upgrade to keeps/castles called ramparts that provide covered stone ledges (archer/crossbow slits)? We can take ideas from other cultures too of course! Like say…an upgrade option to double the thickness of the walls. An upgrade to change the angle of the lower wall or upper wall to reduce siege damage? An option for attackers to set fire to wooden towers/keeps/castles? Options for defenders to set fire to beacons on keep/castle [raise the alarm] to identify stealthy enemy attack points. Give the attacker and defender the option to use/throw Eastern style fire bombs/grenades? An option for defenders to double the height of the walls? An option for the defenders to buy more npc archer guards to man the walls? An option for defenders of Stone Mist to buy an upgrade that sends out level 82 guard patrols (10-20) for the road? Give defenders of Stone Mist the option to build guard garrisons to increase npc numbers at the castle? Provide an option for the attacking siege force to receive a buff and the defenders a penalty if the attackers successfully stop all supply from reaching a keep or castle?

Eternal BL needs you commander Vexia =P
Agree with laxus.

Yaks are strongest during NA evening hours. They will likely out score you [TC] during NA evenings. I dare you to do better. They were trying to recruit more Oceanics…

Anonymous Waffler = Crystal Desert. There fixed it for you. I am excited too. But, but…I fear for the competitiveness of Crystal if the coordination and alliance consolidation that was started is not completed…

Ah…I see. Ok Community Coordinator Meinke. This talk reminded me of old features. Where is the correct forum to suggest player functionality like the “anonymous” option for WvW to developers? Can you direct me?

DAoC did have rendering issues at the large scale. A few things the poster may have missed: DAoC…old as it is…gave the player the function to set themselves as “anonymous.” Thus preventing harassment for special operations or any player who selects it. You would be unable to contact them or group them? That is how I remember it. Yet, GW2 does not. Yes, seeing the names of your enemies is something I would support. You are welcome to come find me on the battle field but if you harass me I will of course exit out. I have better things to do than waste my time with negative attention. Without harassment controls the general gaming population will move on to something else.

Eve Online? Yeah, (I am Problematic – former Space Monkey Alliance) It has the option to destroy in game assets. This is often abused (as Goonswarm so elegantly does). Shadowbane also had this option and was equally abused.

That battleground you allude too here was a game called Shadowbane. I was there for roughly 2 years representing a small group that joined TBW/OPP (Apologies to the few of you who remember the guild tags because I do not wish to discuss the old days. It is for reference only). That game and its mechanics never reached full potential. I know for a fact that one of the Shadowbane staff joined Star Wars of the Old Republic development team. Funny that both of those two games had similar population trends. =P Dark Ages of Camelot was also a close equivalent to what you mention but both DAoC & SB had serious rendering issues when high numbers [50+} of avatars were on screen using combat animations in the viewable area. This was the main impediment to this style of gaming. Using game breaking mechanics to get an edge (hacks, cheats) happened in those early years as well. It only took a few exploiters to reduce the gameplay of thousands. Little has changed in 10 years of MMO player combat if you take the long view perspective with over a decade of time spent watching the developments. Pick your poison but the system doesn’t change. No one yet has creativity/tenacity/money to dislodge the old system and create anew (this is how culture/art works). @Arena Net: you did not create a new system on the ashes of the old. I’ve seen the variations on the theme. We all know that true gaming revolution only arrives when the system is entirely remade. No software engineer will ever achieve this. It must come from the artistic types with those liberal arts degrees we deride. Enjoy your stagnation =P

Hi Einsof Gaming! “Phun” here and I wanted to thank you for your coverage! I’m a NA time zone player. How do you like Synergy Alliance? I’ve enjoyed my time with our fellow Crystal Oceanic players.

Mmmm… Fun times to be had by all! Tonight’s Eternal borderland map was so great I couldn’t stop. Stayed for about 12hrs. Thank you to all who played from Crystal/Yak/Darkhaven. In particular I hope everyone enjoyed the Stonemist 3-way fights. Oh yeah, thank you commander Yoli. =D
~ Phun

Hello World! If anyone was looking for Phun from Gate of Madness (since beta #3) I recently transferred to Crystal. I was one of your armchair strategists in WvW since launch. I like to think I was helpful. Wanted to say hello to the Pornstar guild from GoM (you know who you are) and also Bob from GoM. I miss the 1st month GoM crews in WvW.

Symphonie – (Warlords) Age of Conan – Set sever [retired]
Problematic (Space Monkey Alliance) – EVE Online [retired]
Numb – WAR [retired]
Unsweetened – Rift (Requiem) [retired}
etc. etc.